The Education of Drew K.
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 5:05 PM PST
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PrintJust though this was a funny debate, and very relevant for the 9ers.
Chargers will let Sproles test free agency
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
by smileyman on Feb 26, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Might we get our scat back before the draft??
Can he KR or PR?
Also would the Turner connection help us here?
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by Drew K on Feb 26, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no more than a nope on this one?
any particular reasons?
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by Drew K on Feb 26, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You think either
1) Sproles sucks
2) We are guaranteed a PR/KR in the draft
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not worth it
by Drew K on Feb 26, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well... we don't know what his value would be
He’ll get offers and counter offers and may end up in the 4-5mil range
Are you saying that 5 mill is too much to pay for a proven Playmaking RB KR PR aaaanndd comes from a similar system.
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He is not that much of a “play-maker” on offense and he’s a subpar runner. He has never had a season over 350 yards rushing even.
by Drew K on Feb 26, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh Oh... Check this out - hot off the presses
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2010/02/why-sproles-would-be-a-good-fit-for-49ers.html
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the whole thread pretty much agrees with my argument
by goatfather on Feb 26, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Author Profile Page Matt.Maiocco replied to comment from Yazo | February 26, 2010 4:11 PM | Reply
Question: Why Sproles and not Spiller?
My response: First, Sproles is a free agent; Spiller is not. Second, Spiller would require a first-round draft pick; Sproles would not. Third, if you’re going to take a RB at No. 13, he better be an every-down back; the 49ers already have their every-down back. Lastly, even if the 49ers were willing to spend a first-round pick on a return specialist, there is no guarantee they’d get him in the draft. Then what? The 49ers would have an opportunity to erase a need before the draft even rolls around. —Matt M.
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by mountaindew77 on Feb 26, 2010 5:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
All roads lead to CJ Spiller
I think we all have had this debate with Drew K. Not sure this warrants a fan post more of a post about fans.
the reason for the fanpost was
The sproles thing just came out
We were debating it
Then Maiocco posted something that was point-counterpoint supporting my argument
It's pretty funny I think... sad.. funny, none the less.
I guess since Matt Maiocco had a post about Sproles that MUST mean we’re going to obtain him. Book it! Take your money to Vegas tonight!
Btw, The 49ers (not Maiocco) said they had some interest in Spiller. It’s funny because Maiocco has said the same thing about Spiller as well.
Not sure what I am being educated on, or supposed to learn… or? Maybe someone is supposed to be educating me? Anyway, strange post… but I’m honored? Thanks?
The Tim Tebow Story "A Bust In The Making" ...Part 2 Coming After The Draft...Stay Tuned.
But, but… Maiocco is the end-all-be-all when it comes to the Niners needs and signings!!!
No way i’d want Sproles for the millions he would want to benefit the Niners so little. Not much of an offensive threat and a few more yards tacked onto our returns for around an $8 million contract. No thanks.
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Feb 26, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
although someone we regard as one of the best 9ers reporters
takes the time to make the argument contrasted with Drew K’s NOPE NOPE NOPE is what its about
Who is “we”? I think Barrows does a much better job reparting the Niners than Maiocco… Maiocco isn’t even a 49ers fan.
The Tim Tebow Story "A Bust In The Making" ...Part 2 Coming After The Draft...Stay Tuned.
Just throwing out a figure. What would be an acceptable number?
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Feb 26, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
For a retuner?
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Feb 26, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
*returner
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Feb 26, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
Runs? He’s never had more than 350 yards in a season. Thats an average of 20 yards a game… if that. I’d say that’s a pretty expensive amount for a guy who is not going to contribute significantly
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Why do we care what he is making?
I don’t care if Niners are paying $3 million more per year for a guy. I’d rather have him on the team than not. I don’t think we should worry about the Niners saving money. It won’t save us money in ticket prices. Let’s just win!!
totally agree with you
i haven’t seen a niner draft where 70 to 75% of its fan assueme that spiller will be around 2 pick,yea i know its all speculation until april who knows jacoby ford my be a better pick but spending 4 to 5 million on a ST player and other packages is way 2 high but grabbing spiller at 13th is 2 high they should get OL first at 13 then at 17 get earl thomas second round grab dexter mc or grab j. best from cal this is a deep draft so lets stop panicking and wanting 2 reach
this i can agree with
CJ spiller should not be taken so high if he won’t be an everyday starter. I rather go after Ford or Holliday is we are desperate for a ST specialist. We need help in the trenches.. mostly in our OL but if we can pick up a Dan Williams and develop him for NT then go for it. CJ spiller is a luxury pick and our team collectively are not in the position right now.
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
Luxury Pick?
Our offense was horrible last year, our special teams was beyond horrible last year… if Spiller contributes to both how exactly is that a “lucury pick”? Particularly when we have two firsts?
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Because both of the needs can be filled in the 4th or 5th
The 49ers have the luxury of taking the best at both of the needs, but at a high price.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 3, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions
So use two picks on two different players that may only be one-dimensional instead of drafting one that can enhance three areas of your football team? Yeah, cause that makes sense.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Same results
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 3, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you, seriously if you’re a bottom line businessman please start up an internet porn site or a car wash, don’t buy the football team I love. I want winners, I want owners who want to win. I want the Yorks to sell the team to someone who is so sick filthy rich that they don’t care if they make money, they just want to own an NFL team and win.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
No way
His salary before 2009 was just $1.1 million.
I’d sign him to a 4 year $10 million deal with $2 million guaranteed. That gives him a salary almost double what he was previously making.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
Don't see the 10 over 4 happening either
Honestly he’s probably looking for something like 3-5 million a year at minimum plus at least 3 or 4 years. Plus he probably will at least start by claiming he’s a full time back and deserves to paid as such or at least that’s what i’d do as his agent.
by HaloFanInDC on Feb 26, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
I suspect you're right
as far as what he’s looking for goes.
Just don’t think he’s worth $4 million a year. $2.5 to $3 tops.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
1 glaring weakness of Sproles is why i don't see theNiners picking him.
Pass pro liability, they don’t appear to be stupid, and keep Davis back to block often, and I can’t imagine Sproles making blitz pickups like Gore. What the niners are doing putting out weight and height ideas is softening teams to let SPiller fall to their 17th pick. I don’t think they calue him at 13. i wouldn’t put it pass the organization to trade up for Berry and try to get Spiller at 17. If Berry fals far enough to trade a 1 and 2, I think the Niners will jump on it. You would be curing two of are most glaring needs, KR/PR, and TE coverage as well as speedy WR’s.
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Pass protection is pretty much my argument against Spiller. While it’s hard to gauge how well most college backs will adjust to learning pro pass protection Spiller doesn’t strike me as Fysical (with and F). To me he’s only an every down back in a system where he’s almost always out in a route on pass plays, or just chipping a DE on the way out to the flats.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
Spiller can block
I hate when people assume things. I watched him ALL YEAR LONG… he is more than capable picking up blocks on guys that out-weigh him and are stronger. He puts himself in great positions. He is another player that will do anything he is asked of.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Chris Johnson is more than capable of picking up blocks; a player that is often compared to with Spiller.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Where are you getting all this tape? I have direct TV with 900 channels and I may have gotten three Clemson game this year. All I can do is YouTube the guy and watch a ten minute highlight real of runs that all go outside the tackles and never initiates contact, even against DBs. I’m not arguing with the results on his highlight reel, most of them were touchdowns. I just don’t see him abusing guys in the NFL like that where technique of breaking down and following hips gets better. I’m starting with the premise that some running styles translate better from college to the pros. Than I see the tape that I can get of Spiller and it looks like given the choice of going inside or outside, he always picks outside and given the choice of running someone over or trying to break their ankles he always goes for the juke, even in the backfield… I think I’m drawing a fair conclusion based on available information.
This is from NFL Draft Spot:
“As a pass blocker Spiller has some room for improvement. The effort is there, but the know how isn’t. If he is a teams feature back, they will also need to carry a short yardage/goal line back.”
Here are some scouting reports that agree with most of what I’m saying. They also agree with most of the positives you’ve pointed out about him, he’s fast, explosive, ect. But please find me one scouting report that says he’s good at reading blocks inside the tackles or that he’s pass protection is one of his strong points:
http://nfldraftgeek.com/spiller.html
http://www.nfldraftspot.com/component/content/article/52-prospect-spotlight/243-cj-spiller.html
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/RB/CJ-Spiller.php
They also agree with most of the positives you’ve pointed out about him, he’s fast, explosive, ect. But please find me one scouting report that says he’s good at reading blocks inside the tackles or that pass protection is one of his strong points, but you just saying (and I’m paraphrasing) that you watched him all year long and nobody else is entitled to an opinion…From my perspective, you watched him all year long, you have a giant man-crush on him and it’s clouding your judgment that the guy may have some weaknesses to his game.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have read on this blog and now feel dumber for reading the entire thing. Spiller is going to be a special player at the next level, it’s more than an opinion, it’s a fact.
What does having 900 channels have to do with anything? There is something called ESPN Gameplan, I’m sure you have heard of this if you have ever watched any show on ESPN. Yes, I pay extra to watch college football and yes I love it that much to care about taking time to record games on my DVR so I can rewatch them to make accurate enough observations. Furthermore, I don’t know where you live exactly, but I live in AZ and Clemson was televised in my market 6 times (without having to use ESPN Gameplan)…enough to know what I am talking about. I also did this so I could watch Sooner games.
Your 3 sites referenced, 2 games watched, and few highlights on youtube has nothing on what I took extra time to observe. Spiller DOES run inbetween the tackles, he DOES know how to pass protect, and he DOES know how to play the game better than the majority at his position. It has nothing to do with “man crush” and more to do with I know what I am talking about and you don’t. I think your dislike for him has clouded your vision on just how talented this individual player is going to be. I don’t have to find you a scouting report, I saw it happen live… but I am sure if I took a bit of time that I don’t have to look for it, I could come up with random shady sites to back up what I am saying. If you don’t believe me then that’s your problem. Go on thinking he has weaknesses and knocking him all you want because in the end, it’s not going to be me eating the crow. That is all I have left to say to you about the subject.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
*I could come up with random shady sites to back up what I am saying like you did
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
“Spiller is going to be a special player at the next level, it’s more than an opinion, it’s a fact.”
That you think you have the ability to predict with absolute certainty that a player won’t bust in the NFL speaks volumes.
The best personal men in the NFL are only right about sixty percent of the time..
This is from ESPN.com:
""Lacks elite vision and appears hesitant at times but does an adequate job of locating seams and setting up blocks, especially when attacking the perimeter. Better fit for a team that does a lot of zone blocking up front than for a team that primarily uses man-blocking schemes. "
“Lacks the leg drive necessary to push the pile in short-yardage situations. Not a downhill runner and can get caught dancing in the hole but has excellent balance and does a good job of sifting through traffic when defenders fail to wrap him up. Explodes up field when gets a seam and can hit the second level going full speed.”
To be fair, they also gave him a high mark for willingness to sacrifice body as a pass blocker:
“Runs adequate routes and quick enough to separate from man coverage. Above-average body control and catches the ball well. Has experience lining up wide and at fullback, making it tougher for defenses to locate him and adjust the coverage accordingly. Willing pass blocker who isn’t afraid to sacrifice body. "
Here’s a link
I’ve got nothing against Spiller and I think he may very well develop into a very good pro. Just based on the admittedly small sample of tape I’ve seen on him, along with reading scouting reports I think he’s going to have to make some changes in his running style to be more than another Reggie Bush. I think any prospect that is going to have to do things differently at the pro level than they did in college is a more risky proposition than a guy who doesn’t. I also think that there will be players available when the 49ers pick that better fit their needs.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
You couldn;t be of any more with the Bush comparison
I am tired of saying the same thin over and over. Think what you want even if it means being wrong
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
There must be an issue with linking to espn.com
http://www.ninersnation.com/2010/2/26/1328522/the-education-of-drew-k#31577931
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
Okay, so no LT, no Sproles for the Chargers
How about this.. Niners trade back to the Chargers so they can get Spiller.
Niners 13th pick for the Chargers first (28th), second (60th) and maybe a fifth round pick?
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by mountaindew77 on Feb 26, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
I'd do it
They need a RB which is why they’re shopping Cromartie.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
I’d only work a deal with SD if we got what we wanted at 13. I think the better move is to get McNeil in a trade involving 1st pick swaps. Follow that up by trying to move up from the chargers 28th pick to that 22-25 range and get Iupati. We would come out of the first round with a solid RT, LG, and whoever we take at 13 (be it S/CB/QB/LB).
Not sure if the 49ers would do it. They would have to rate 28 players as 1st round prospects to consider it. I know it’s a deep class but I don’t recall their draft board ever having higher than 25 1st round prospects in any given year.
Also, I’ve heard their comments about 2nd picks. For some reason they don’t like 2nd round picks.
As far as i’m concerned the FO can keep trading thoughs 2nd’s for future 1st’s.
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by Hoopers Judge on Feb 26, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
agreed.
I don’t think we have any starting 2nd round picks on our team. I’m sure we do, but I can’t think of any. Any help guys?
Both our Guards, that says a lot.
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by Hoopers Judge on Feb 28, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Pretty sure we’re going to keep our 13th and 17th pick. They are both pretty valuable to us… or have the potential to be.
ESPN lied to me
Depends on who's still available when they roll around.
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by mountaindew77 on Feb 27, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions
i liked rlott's idea
EVEN BETTER: spiller,rachal and clements for cromartie, mcneil, their 1 and their 2
:D
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
1b. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
2. Best CB available
3. Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green
by MichaelClutchtree on Feb 26, 2010 11:46 PM PST reply actions
The Education of Goatfather
http://blog.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/2010/02/insiders-49ers-not-likely-to-spend-for-sproles.html
Maiocco asks for a do over
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
more
…Really? Like, honestly?
‘and can play as a returner’ is an AFTERTHOUGHT? Did you watch the 49ers return units last season? Oh, you’re a Jets fan, I understand if you missed it but the 49ers averaged 4.4 yards per punt return. Sproles will get good change of pace and returner money in the market. What will he be with the 49ers? A change of page back and a returner. Returns were just abysmal last season, every time a team punted to us, no joke everyone around me in the stadium held their breath like the game winning field goal was about to be kicked. Sproles is a must.
I chose water over wine… Jars of formaldehyde… think of all the things I missed… Why’d you make me a scientist?
by Ninjames on Feb 27, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
more far from NOPE, and closer to original point
Read as: I’m against improving the team in its weakest area.
Nobody knows how much Sproles is going to cost. Why are you saying ‘spending a lot of money’ for? I just think the 49ers need to do their due diligence and check out everyone who becomes available, and if they are an upgrade try and get them for the right price. If you don’t think they should do that then.. I don’t even know what to say. It is NEVER a good idea to say "yeah lets just hope there will be a return man available later."
I chose water over wine… Jars of formaldehyde… think of all the things I missed… Why’d you make me a scientist?
by Ninjames on Feb 27, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, come on
Really?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Feb 27, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Proven home run hitter
from scrimmage or on return?
Two big needs, and the draft is never a guarantee…
Love Spiller – hope we get him at 13, but the a sure thing always makes sense.
I don’t believe Sproles is a sure thing, and that’s the thing. He may not even be too effective in special teams. There were alot of occasions that on punt returns last year where it just didn’t seem like he had the juice. Sometimes special teamers fizzle and there has to be reason San Diego is letting him test the waters. He’s obviously not that important to them which leads me to this question: Why would he be THAT important to us? Yes, we had special teams problems but that’s what the draft is for. We can draft one, two, possibly even three guys that have those capabilities and may the best man win. Morgan is also an option as a kick returner and happened to do well at it. So what does that leave? A punt returner? We can’t find that in the draft even if we don’t get Spiller? This is all I am pointing out. I dont think Sproles is close to stellar… and I do think he has lost some of his pizzazz.
I could tell that my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio.
No draft pick can ensure that? Well that’s just a flat out lie. Sproles may not be able to either if you’re going to go there. There is no gaurantee’s; including Sproles.
I’d rather draft a WR, CB, RB that can all do punt returns. Surely one of them would pan out. To me that is more sure than getting tiny Sproles who can only really do one thing.
I could tell that my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio.
I don't think he has lost anything as far as pizazz is concerned. I also think the Chargers are letting him test FA because he wants too much money, they want him to see for himself he asking for too much, and he probably is.
Trade up for Berry, that's all folks!!
Suck it Peyton.......LOL
So what are you saying with that? That he is going to resign with SD? But for less than what he wants?
I could tell that my parents hated me. My bath toys were a toaster and a radio.
Yes
Pat Kirwan was talking on the radio a while ago and said he talked to Norv just yesterday and he said he didn’t want to let him test the market but they couldn’t be the ones to set the market. They want him to test the market and see he’s not gonna get a good deal then give him one dollar over one of the good offers.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 28, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Thats the prob
I think SD set the unrealistic expecations when they franchised him. That in his head, set that value. Now they have to let him test market to settle for anything less than his franchise amount.
“there has to be reason San Diego is letting him test the waters. He’s obviously not that important to them which leads me to this question: Why would he be THAT important to us?”
This is a blanket argument against ever signing a free agent. If that’s your stance than we have to give back Justin Smith.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
There's 7 million reasons why San Diego is letting Sproles test FA
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
Your comment here is blanket rebutal and generic in nature. Justin Smith was a free agent in a year that there werent extenuating circimstances in a potentially uncapped year. There are going to be other options in the draft for return men which Sing and McCloughan have stated that they will look at seriously.
smileyman and others have pointed out several times that they HAVE to let him test the waters so he can appraise his value. The franchise tag last year inflated his value, so they are doing this to let him see he is not worth that much. Furthermore, they have stated that they are prepared to offer $1 more than the highest bidder… so nice try on trying to kill my comment but no cigar.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
You said:
"there has to be reason San Diego is letting him test the waters. He’s obviously not that important to them which leads me to this question: Why would he be THAT important to us?"
I said:
This is a blanket argument against ever signing a free agent. If that’s your stance than we have to give back Justin Smith.
Now you’re saying:
“smileyman and others have pointed out several times that they HAVE to let him test the waters so he can appraise his value. The franchise tag last year inflated his value, so they are doing this to let him see he is not worth that much. Furthermore, they have stated that they are prepared to offer $1 more than the highest bidder”
Which actually contradicts what you said before. I was just pointing out that saying:
"there has to be reason San Diego is letting him test the waters. He’s obviously not that important to them which leads me to this question: Why would he be THAT important to us?"
Could easily be used as an argument against any free agent acquisition. Here is an example:
There has to be a reason the Panthers are letting Julius Peppers test the waters,. He’s obviously not that important to them which leads me to this question: Why would he be that important to us?
Here’s another:
There had to be a reason San Diego let Fred Dean test the waters. He obviously wasn’t that important to them which leads me to this question: Why would he be that important to us?
I’m not saying that your logic is always wrong, just saying it always applies, here’s another example, in this one your formula was correct.
There had to be a reason Pittsburgh let Marvel Smith test the waters. He obviously wasn’t that important to them which leads me to this question: Why would he be that important to us?
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
Which actually contradicts what you said before. I was just pointing out that saying:
Lay off the stuff it may help in your comprehension of things. Both points connect to one and other. You are trying to find flaws in what I am saying and it’s just not working out for you. Youre scraping together scraps and pieces of my comments to twist them to make me wrong… you are failing miserably just for your info. You may as well quit trying because you are just making yourself look silly.
I don’t even know why you are contuing to waste your time with this Sproles thing anyhow. It has pretty much been said by San Diego’s brass that their intentions are to retain him for a $1 more than the highest offer.
It’s pretty nuts to continue something that is pretty much dead to try and discredit somebody that puts alot of time and effort in to this site. Seems like you are trying to play king of the hill but keep getting pushed off and are climbing back up just to get pushed off again.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
I’m not going to respond to non-football based arguments or personal attacks. If you can’t respond to a point I make and are just trying to draw me into name calling, it’s not going to work.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
Nice.
Let us put the Spiller train back on the track.
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by Hoopers Judge on Feb 27, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
one problem
He won’t get $5 million anywhere
Not a back who averages less than 700 all purpose yards (receiving and rushing).
$2, maybe $3 million max. His salary before eh was franchised was only $1.1 million
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
by smileyman on Feb 26, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
soo we could then get him cheaper, and my argument still holds
Yep.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Feb 27, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Was this really necessary to be fanposted, at all?
"But it only takes five future unabombers to take what should be a 400-comment thread and turn it into a 1,200-comment one full of anger… anger I suspect has more to do with the fact that they can’t land the hot chick rather than the fact that we signed Aubrey Huff instead of gave Garko a chance after dealing away a supposedly valuable prospect for him." -mlb22
Read my Cal blog: http://since59.blogspot.com/ Go Bears!
It's a completely pointless signing
because 1.) Sproles wants to be a feature back and
2.) We shouldn’t be wasting 5 million or however much is on a returner when one can be had in the draft.
Trindon Holliday (4th-6th round pick) at LSU: 13.9 yard Punt return average
Darren Sproles (wants 4-5 million, or maybe more) with SD: 7 yard punt return average.
Trindon Holliday at LSU: 24.4 yards per Kick Return
Darren Sproles with SD: 24.1 yards per Kick Return
I’d rather have Trindon as a 5th or 6th rounder then Sproles as a 5-6 million dollar type guy
"But it only takes five future unabombers to take what should be a 400-comment thread and turn it into a 1,200-comment one full of anger… anger I suspect has more to do with the fact that they can’t land the hot chick rather than the fact that we signed Aubrey Huff instead of gave Garko a chance after dealing away a supposedly valuable prospect for him." -mlb22
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1) Sproles wants to be a feature back? really at 4'11" 115?
2)a He’s not going to get 5 mil
2)b The draft is always a gamble
The division title is right there next year.
Another thing are you really comparing college and NFL statistics?
oh yeah and on kick returners in the draft see
Brandon Williams…is that his name I can’t seem to remember
I love how you say he's a "proven home run hitter"
because when running the ball, he’s absolutely not. The longest run in his career is 37 yards, he only averaged 3.7 yards per carry last year, and he’s not that great of a returner.
"But it only takes five future unabombers to take what should be a 400-comment thread and turn it into a 1,200-comment one full of anger… anger I suspect has more to do with the fact that they can’t land the hot chick rather than the fact that we signed Aubrey Huff instead of gave Garko a chance after dealing away a supposedly valuable prospect for him." -mlb22
Read my Cal blog: http://since59.blogspot.com/ Go Bears!
i glad you love it
Because he’s used as a swing back, aka exactly what we need.
His LONGest catch last year was 81 yards twice, and 66 the year before twice
And I think he’s just a little better option at PR than anyone on our current roster
Terrance Cody is a better option at return man than anyone on our roster was last year, he could eat the ball and fall forward for a five yard average.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
Nedney for Punt Returner!
C’mon people, get real.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
This is all joking, but seriously in hindsight if all we had done was have someone who never dropped the ball fair catch every punt after Rossum was gone we’d have been better off. Everest would have still been out a job though.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
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