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Evaluating Our Needs: Taking A Realistic Look!


As rumors around the web continue to link players like Darren Sproles, Julius Peppers, Joey Porter and Antonio Cromartie, i have decided to take a more realistic look at the 49ers off-season needs, the approach i believe we should take and what the 49ers need, not only to contend for a playoff sport, which is a near certainty, but to become on of the conferences elite teams.

 

What We Have: On offense there are only seven spots set in stone of the starting eleven. Those players are Alex Smith, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Joe Staley, Eric Heitman and Chilo Rachal. That doesn't say too much for an offense that continued to improve a great deal as the season went on last year. Yet the 49ers do have many legitimate younger players and proven veterans that either could step up or already did so in 2009. Glen Coffee was the talk of the NFL pre-season, but faltered in a big way when given the chance in the regular season. I am not sure if you can chalk that up to nerves and inexperience or just that he isn't going to be that good of a pro. I believe the jury is still out on that, i am not ready to give up on him. Josh Morgan had his spots in 2009, and played much better as the season went on, he did have 28 receptions over the final 6 games. Yet i don't believe he is consistent enough just yet to be the #2 WR on a playoff caliber team. Jason Hill had his shining moment(s) in just one game, that in garbage time against the Titans, i don't see him as anything more than a #3 or #4 WR in the NFL. Now this is where it gets interesting. Adam Snyder was an utter failure in 2009, and i just want him off the roster as soon as possible, trade him for a low round pick and be done with that experiment. To the amazement of me and many others on NN Barry Sims played great in replacing Joe Staley and must be considered a top notch back up for us in 2010, if we can re-sign him. That said i do not want him anywhere near the starting lineup on a regular basis.  Tony Pashos was a real good later pick up, yet his injury left a lot of us wondering about him. As an outsider to the Ravens and Jaguars when he played for them, i saw a lot of talent from Pashos, i wouldn't have much of an issue with him opening up 2010 as a starter at tackle.

 

                        The defense is another story, it was one of the best in 2009, i don't care what stats etc. say. They were given a loose leaf to play with early on as our offense stunk it up. Overall i believe that Justin Smith, Aubrayo Franklin, Patrick Willis and Dashon Goldson had all-pro season, yet only two of them were named to the pro bowl. With Spencer, Brown, Goldson, Smith and Taylor the 49ers have a real good young core in the secondary, but we will need a playmaker, i will address that later. One of the best LB corps in the NFL, the 49ers could still upgrade at the OLB position opposite the emerging talent that is Ahmad Brooks. Inside they are set for 2010 with Willis (in my opinion the best LB in football) and Takeo Spikes. Scott Mckillop was a great surprise, especially on special teams.

 

Taking a Look At The Trade Block: I will only look at the players the 49ers "could" have an interest in

WR- Brandon Marshall: he is an interesting dude to say the least, and minus all the off the field BS, is one of the elite receivers in the league. I am more worried about what it would cost to acquire him, than i am worried about the off the field issues. If we can get him for a 2nd round pick and conditional pick in 2011, i do it. But the Broncos will be asking for more

CB- Nnamdi Ashomugha: This is an interesting name on the block, he is the best all around corner in the NFL, and is being wasted on the Oakland Raiders. They apparently have everyone on the trade block, which means that the amount they receive in return may actually be a lot less than we perceive right now. Avoid giving up a 1st and this should be our #1 target. Nate Clements, a 3rd in 2010 and middle round pick in 2011 should get it done.

S- Reggie Nelson: I think that it is crazy that Nelson is available, i just am not sure why, or what he may demand in return.

CB- Antonio Cromartie: A lot has been said about his off the field issues (something like 6 children in 5 states). But i do think he is worth some risk.

Overall i would avoid the trade market like the black plague; the 49ers are in the mode to add to an increasingly talented roster, and giving up substantial draft picks for players who are on the block for a reason really doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Oakland's corner aside i really don't see anything worth much in terms of a top tier pick.

Link to players on the block

 

Free Agent Market: With the lack of a CBA the options here are extremely limited, and i doubt the 49ers will be willing to sign a player with a 1st and 3rd tender, or even a #2 tender. For the purposes of this thread i will only include players the 49ers "could be interested in and are either unrestricted free agents, or have not been tendered by their current team, or have been tendered already.

RB- Darren Sproles: These rumors are running faster than a chicken from a Kenyan. I do see why the 49ers would be interested in Sproles, and i believe that this is one free agent deal the 49ers should really look into. By signing him to something like a 3Y-12MD deal the 49ers avoid having to draft CJ Spiller (who i really do like), gives the 49ers a legit return man, a change of speed back and a really good 3rd down receiver as well. I think and believe the 49ers will make a run at him.

RB- Leon Washington: the Jets gave Washington a 2nd round tender, so the question remains. Is he worth that pick? it all depends on where you expect the 49ers to go in the 1st round and if Washington is better than whoever we may be able to get in the 2nd round (Best/Mccluster). I think we should avoid any conversation regarding Washington

RB's- Willie Parker and Kevin Faulk: These could be intriguing options as the 3rd down backs, but the question that begs to be asked is. Do the 49ers want to gave after veteran backs past their prime?

WR- Terrell Owens: Okay yes he did leave the 49ers on notoriosuly bad terms, all we have to say is Brandon Whiting and you will know what i am talking about. That said he has matured over the last couple seasons, won't cost much more than 5 million per and could be a great option opposite Michael Crabtree. This without costing a draft pick, and allowing us the ability to let Morgan and Hill grow as players. Believe it or not i am 100 percent in favor of acquiring Owens.

WR- Antonio Bryant: Another player that left the 49ers on bad terms, but this one i say stay away from. He had a breakout season in 2008 to earn that franchise tag, and then flopped on his face in 2009. Way too inconsistent.

G's- Bobbie Williams and Stephan Neal: I personally believe the 49ers must and will go after one of these veteran guards, both have proven to be really solid players in the NFL and could hold down the fort until a young player emerges. Ask yourself this. Is either option better than David Baas or Adam Snyder? My answer Hells yeah!!!

CB- Dunta Robinson: Scotty M has said that the 49ers would be interested in a player of his caliber, but added "it is something that we MAY look into" didn't sound to confident in going after him. I wouldn't anyway, Robinson had a horrible 2009 season and just isn't worth the cash he will get.

CB- Leigh Bodden: Just forget about him, we have 3 CB's that are better than Bodden, it is just that simple

S- Sean Jones, Darren Sharper: It all depends where we go in the draft and if we decide to keep Michael Lewis, i wouldn't mind signing a Sean Jones short term to fill in for a player like Nate Allen or Myron Rolle until they are ready. Darren Sharper? NOPE!!!

 

Good explanation of 2010 free agent system

 

The Much Talked About Draft: This is the deepest draft i have seen in years, in my opinion the drop off from 13/17 to the 50's isn't that great, especially in the positions i believe the 49ers have the largest needs. The only tackle beside Okung that i am enamored with is Bruce Campbell, and even that comes at a "bust" risk as do most tackles in the 1st round of any draft. I believe we should avoid Trent Williams like the Taliban in NYC, he got burnt on multiple occasions, and that wasn't even the NFL. Taylor Mays and Earl Thomas, are not much better than the 2nd round options at those positions. In fact, i believe Nate Allen is better than both players. In short this is what i would do. I do understand that there are mock draft threads on NN, but i cannot seriously continue this post without adding another one of my own. First off i would trade the 13th pick to the Packers for the 23rd pick and 2nd round pick, this works on the trade value chart.

1. DE- Everson Griffin, USC       has a chance to be an elite DE and at 282 LB is perfect for the 3-4

1. OT- Bruce Campbell, Maryland   will sit behind and learn from Pashos.  Major upside!!!

2. LB- Brandon Spikes, Florida        In need of an eventual replacement for Takeo, Brandon is a stud

2. FS- Nate Allen, South Florida       As i said he is the 2nd best safety in the draft, a steal in the 2nd

3. WR- Damaryious Thomas, G.Tech      Will fall due to injury, would have been a top 10 pick in 2011

4. CB- Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State    I don't see him falling to the 4th, but a lot of boards have him here.

5. G/C- Eric Olsen, Notre Dame           Could fill two spots, backup guard and center. Goodbye Wallace?

6. LB- Dakoda Watson, Florida St.       Project OLB, but in the 6th i like his upside

6. WR- Freddie Barnes, B. Green        Why not another WR? led NCAA in receiving in 2009.

7. DT- Jeff Owens, Georgia                  We have Franklin, Soap and Francois. But could use some depth

 

In terms of free agency/trade

Trade conditional pick in 2011 and OL- Adam Snyder to the Chargers for Antonio Cromartie. San Diego will not get what they think they will for Cromartie; and this gives them a chance to acquire a 2nd or 3rd round pick if Cromartie excels with the 49ers in 2010. Much more than they would get for him right now.

Sign WR- Terrell Owens to a 1Y Contract. and sign LB- Joey Porter to a 2Y Contract once he is eventually released (which will happen)

Sign G- Bobbie Williams to a 4Y Contract worth about 15 million

Sign RB/WR- Darren Sproles to a 3Y-11MD Contract

 

I know this was an incredible long spread with a lot of information, but i find it imperative that i throw this out there before the start of free agency in about 5 days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Smith     Gore        Davis       Crabtree       Staley         Heitman         Rachal

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Would this off-season make the 49ers instant contenders in the NFC in 2010 without risking the future?
Yeah
42 votes
No
19 votes
Dude lay off the coffee
31 votes

92 votes | Poll has closed

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First off thanks for all the info

It’s a lot to gather and a lot for us all to digest.
Secondly, Sounds like you might be adding Antrelle Rolle to the list from what I heard from smileySB.
Now LOL
No no no no …oh and..no on Owens. He has been kicked off at least 3 teams for destroying team chemistry and this is a team sport not a sport of individuals. No on Peppers, Porter and to a degree Sproles too. We need to build for the future not for the right now. We are not a team that is one step away from the SB, from the playoffs maybe but we have a bit more to do to get to the holy grail. I like and respect your opinion on a lot of things but on that I’d have to say you’re way off. It would destroy a team that has a second year coach and a QB that is considered iffy at best and also making him be #2 would only incense him to no end.

I’d say no on Cromartie as well and we’re going to quite possibly need a DT and a QB in next years draft so I wouldn’t trade that conditional pick. And it would take a good deal of a high pick to get him wiht just Snyder as the other bargaining chip.

Now onto the draft.
Everson Griffen I don’t feel is a good choice, he’s a 4-3 guy I feel and not a 3-4, surely not at LB. I’d rather get Brandon Graham or Jared Odrick or JPP at that DE or LB spot.

Campbell is a Gym rat. It’s been said many times by many people that if you watch the film on him you think “4th round, 3rd maybe..god that was a horrible play”.

Spikes wouldn’t make me want to cry but it’s a lower need. Rather get one of our other needs filled there such as WR for the long term or CB.

Like the Nate pick in the 2nd

If we could get Bey-Bey there it would be great, not sure he drops that far, probably safer to get him at the two, if we want him which we do I feel.

Cox is good choice but don’t see him falling that far.

Olsen as a backup wouldn’t be bad at all but not sure he could eventually be “the man” we’ll have to see.o

Dekota – Most mocks have him going much furhter though a rush project OLB is a good choice here

Barnes – if we could get Bey-Bey and Barnes on the field with Crabs then that would be manna from heaven. Don’t see him going in the 6th..5th probably.

Not bad though lots of options in the 7th. Maybe go for Linval Joseph at that position and pick

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 28, 2010 1:38 PM PST reply actions  

Very well put together post.

Ill come back to this thread and try to post a decently detailed response with my opinions when i have more time to really digest it all. But for now..

I just wanted to give you a thumbs up. Good post.

by Beatclash on Feb 28, 2010 9:42 PM PST reply actions  

Agree, but the draft you had featured a lot of reaches and need based picks. McCloughan and Co. like to get value out of their draft picks, and Bulaga would definitely be a more viable choice than Campbell.

by Ramah71 on Mar 1, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

lol Williams is also 33.

by Ramah71 on Mar 1, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Post

I’ll give you credit for a whole ton of detail. We try and keep the mock draft and free agent stuff in “official” fanposts, but this is a good example of going the extra mile and making a worthwhile individual fanpost.

I realize Cromartie might not be as valuable as the Chargers think, but Adam Snyder??? And I’m curious what kind of 2011 picks will or won’t be dealt if the labor dispute is going to hang over people’s heads.

by David Fucillo on Feb 28, 2010 10:08 PM PST reply actions  

Your Right

i had not even considered a work stoppage in 2011, but that is possible, and could play into a teams decision making process. I do believe that the NFL will get something done, they stand to lose hundreds of millions if not, i doubt either side is willing to let that happen.

Regarding Cromartie for Snyder. Snyder would be a thrown in on our part, San Diego is incredibly thin on the offensive line and could use some depth, he has more value than a 5th or 6th round pick in this years draft, especially at that position. In regards to a conditional pick in 2011, a lot of team are going in that direction when trading a player such a Cromartie. If he works out for the 49ers then San Diego get a solid draft pick in 2011 and both sides win, if not well then it remains a wash.

"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"

by nocal81(Vincent) on Feb 28, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets start talking to Cleveland

We can swap 1st rounders (they have the 7th, we’ll give them the 13th) and give them a 2nd rounder and a 4th or 5th round pick and get Joshua Cribbs who would give the 49ers a huge boost offensively and in the return game. I could easily see Cribbs (who’s 6’1" 215 lbs.) being a stronger and just as fast version of Percy Harvin. Plus Cribbs is a bona fide Wildcat QB (he played QB at Kent State) and he is unhappy in Cleveland.

Cleveland will wait until Bradford is off the board to make this deal, but Bradford is rumored to be going either 1st overall to the Rams or 4th overall at the latest to the Skins. With the 7th overall pick, the Niners would have a great shot at getting Eric Berry or Joe Haden the two highest ranked DB’s in the draft.

by DwightSchrute on Mar 2, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

I like the post overall, but I have to vote no on any plan that includes T.O. for both logical and emotional reasons.

Logical – He’s old, his production has fallen off. He’s a plague in the lock-room and could be a terrible influence on the 49er’s young receivers.

Emotional – NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.

by Johnnysixnut on Mar 3, 2010 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

a chicken from a kenyan?

by foosball4949 on Mar 3, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

Was just taking a page out of Robin Williams’ book … not meant to be offensive.

"Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win!!!"

by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 3, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

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