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Statistical Review of the 2009 49ers: VII. Receivers

AUTHOR'S NOTE: Sorry for the delay in getting this one done. I've been moving into my new apartment for the past week, so that's kind of eaten up the bulk of my spare time. Hopefully, it's worth the wait. Oh, and, be prepared. This is by far the longest of the review posts. Don't worry, though. The remaining ones (OL, DF7, and secondary) will be about half as long.

Welcome back for the 7th installment of my 2009 Niner stat review. If you missed Parts 1-6, you can read them here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Today in Part 7, I'll take a look at the WR and TE positions. The obvious star of this group in 2009 was Vernon Davis, but Michael Crabtree's and Josh Morgan's 2009 seasons - and what they mean for the 49ers' near future -- are more intriguing to me as a discussion topic.  One reason why it's more intriguing is because, whereas we just witnessed VD's breakout season, we're still uncertain about the if and when of Crabs' and/or Morgan's breakout. In addition, given what I've said thus far in this series about win improvements being related to pass OFF improvements, a breakout of Crabs and/or Morgan in 2010 would likely have a big impact on the 49ers' playoff chances.

So, today's post will go something like this. First, I'll present the efficiency and yardage stats for each receiver. Then, I'll try to give you an idea -statistically speaking, of course - about the likelihood of a Crabs outbreak in 2010 (and a Morgan one as well, of course...it's just that "Crabs and/or Morgan outbreak" doesn't sound as good as "Crabs outbreak"...if anything, Captain Morgan comes before the Crabs).

After the jump, an epidemic of Crabs and VD (and Morgan)... 

Star-divide

First, some housekeeping. In this post, I'm going to do present the stats a little differently. Specifically, the rankings you'll see in the WR tables are each WR's ranking among NFL receivers on the same level of the depth chart. In other words, Crabs was the 49ers' #1 WR in 2009, so I'll show you his rankings among #1 WRs; not all WRs. Obviously, I'm doing this to compare apples to apples as much as possible. In a similar vein, stats and rankings for the average playoff team will also be specific to WRs at the same level of the depth chart. Because of these changes, the only efficient way to display the tables is one receiver at a time; so that's what I'm going to do.

MICHAEL CRABTREE

Below are the receiving yardage and efficiency stats for Crabtree in 2009, alongside those of the average playoff #1 WR and the #1 WR for the Super Bowl champions (Top-quartile performance in bold; Bottom-quartile performance in italics):

WR

DVOA

Rk

DYAR/T

Rk

Yds/T

Rk

EYds/T

Rk

Michael Crabtree

-20.0%

29

-0.56

29

7.27

22

5.37

29

Marques Colston

25.3%

4

3.09

4

10.04

4

11.19

3

Playoff #1

18.2%

7.6

2.48

7.6

9.17

8.8

10.18

7.6

Clearly, the 49ers did not have a playoff-caliber #1 WR this season. Moreover, because these are per-target stats, Crabtree's holdout was not a factor in the rankings. Looking at specific stats, Crabtree's average target was about 4 yards less valuable to the Niners than Colston's was to the Saints (See DYAR/T). As bad as that value-related difference is, it pales in comparison to their efficiency-related differences (See DVOA and EYds/T). Specifically, Crabs' targets were over 45% less efficient than Colston's, which translates into Colston's EYds/T being twice that of Crabtree's. Furthermore, whereas Crabs' EYds-to-Yds/T difference was negative (-1.90), Colston's was positive (1.15).

So what is to blame for these differences? Easy answer: Crabs was a rookie. You don't need some thorough statistical analysis to know that the list of impact rookie WRs is very short, and doesn't even include the GOAT.

Another ironclad reason is that Crabs' played in a relatively inefficient and unproductive pass OFF overall. Obviously, a WR is going to be more productive and efficient playing in Sean Payton's OFF with Drew Brees at QB than playing in Jimmy Raye's OFF with Alex Smith at QB. A third, related reason is that the amount of identity turmoil exhibited by the Niners' OFF this season hurt Crabs' stats. Given that route-running, and knowledge of the OFF are 2 of the major obstacles for a rookie WR, it doesn't help when his team is switching back and forth between being the tortoise or the hare.

Finally, the fact of the matter is that, when put in proper context, Crabs' season probably wasn't as bad as FO's stats suggest. Being a rookie, and missing 5 games to start the season, it's a testament to Crabs that he was still able to become a competent starter right out of the gate. Furthermore, his 625 receiving yards might not be that great, but it prorates to 900 yards in 16-game season. You want another short list? How about rookie WRs who started at least 10 games and had 900 or more receiving yards? So, given proper context, Crabs' underwhelming 2009 stats are less important than his stats going forward. More on that later.

JOSH MORGAN

Below are the receiving yardage and efficiency stats for Morgan in 2009, alongside those of the average playoff #2 WR and the #2 WR for the Super Bowl champions (Top-quartile performance in bold; Bottom-quartile performance in italics):

WR

DVOA

Rk

DYAR/T

Rk

Yds/T

Rk

EYds/T

Rk

Josh Morgan

-18.6%

28

-0.46

28

6.51

24

5.63

29

Devery Henderson

10.7%

6

1.78

7

9.69

2

8.83

8

Playoff #2

3.7%

12.3

1.31

12.3

8.11

12.5

8.41

12.2

Pretty much the same story here. Morgan's stats were underwhelming, but it was his first year as a starter and his 2009 season was constantly beset by turmoil totally out of his control. Develop chemistry with a new QB at midseason? Check. Temporarily lose playing time midseason? Check. Learn a new position midseason? Check. Really, a major injury was the only thing Morgan's tumultuous 2009 season was missing. So we should cut the kid some slack. One thing that is legit about his stats though - and I can't resist beating this dead horse one last time - is that Morgan's terrible DVOA accurately reflects his penchant for coming up 1 yard short on 3rd-down receptions.

ISAAC BRUCE

I wasn't planning to review Isaac Bruce's stats when I set out to write this post. However, during the course of the research, I found something that was pretty interesting. Below are the receiving yardage and efficiency stats for Bruce in 2009, alongside those of the average playoff #3 WR and the #3 WR for the Super Bowl champions (Top-third performance in bold; Bottom-third performance in italics):

WR

DVOA

Rk

DYAR/T

Rk

Yds/T

Rk

EYds/T

Rk

Isaac Bruce

-30.9%

23

-1.47

23

5.39

21

4.37

23

Robert Meachem

39.2%

1

4.19

1

11.28

1

12.72

1

Playoff #3

12.7%

8.3

2.01

8.6

8.47

8.4

9.33

8.4

What's interesting to me is how unequivocal this table is in suggesting the importance of a good #3 WR. The Saints had the best #3 WR in the NFL, and their season finished with a championship. Of course, NO is famous for their ability to spread the ball around among a number of WRs, so it's important that the #3 WR trend is also supported by playoff teams in general. It seems that, in today's NFL, a good #3 WR is increasingly important for overall team success. It may just be a coincidence, but the 49ers haven't had a #3 WR gain 500 or more receiving yards since JJ Stokes had 524 in 2000, and their #3 WR has averaged only 276 yards per season (!!!) since 2002 (aka their last playoff appearance).

VERNON DAVIS

Below are the receiving yardage and efficiency stats for VD in 2009, alongside those of the average playoff #1 TE and the #1 TE for the Super Bowl champions (Top-quartile performance in bold; Bottom-quartile performance in italics):

TE

DVOA

Rk

DYAR/T

Rk

Yds/T

Rk

EYds/T

Rk

Vernon Davis

8.8%

19

1.02

19

7.48

18

7.53

21

Jeremy Shockey

23.4%

7

2.03

7

8.49

7

9.97

7

Playoff

23.5%

9.7

2.07

9.9

8.34

11.6

10.06

10.1

This table is probably the most surprising in this post. Essentially, it reflects a statistical reality of count stats like yardage and TDs, categories in which VD was at or near the top of the NFL. Namely, the amount a player amasses is dependent on the number of opportunities he has to amass. That's precisely the reason why I prefer per-play stats. So, to the NFL record book, which relies on count stats, VD's season was awesome statistically. But a good part of that awesomeness was simply the byproduct of being targeted 129 times this season. To put that in perspective, Crabs and Morgan had 167 targets combined. It's certainly plausible that each of them would have posted something like 78-965-13 if they were as much of a focus of the Niner OFF as VD was in 2009.

The real problem with VD's high number of targets, though, is what happened on about 40% of them. Namely, they fell incomplete. By definition, those 51 incompletions represented a VD target that (a) was unsuccessful for the purposes of DVOA, and (b) resulted in a gain of 0 Yds/T; both of which hurt his FO stats. Of course, this is just a roundabout way of saying that VD suffered from a 60.5% Catch Rate, which ranked #32 among TEs this season. For a comparison, consider that Shockey's Catch Rate was 71.6%.

It's easy to look at his abysmally low Catch Rate and say, "VD needs to stop dropping so many passes." However, it's important to remember that incompletions aren't only the fault of the receiver. Indeed, subtracting VD's league-leading 11 drops, we're still left with 40 incompletions that weren't the fault of his stone hands. Just so we're on the same page here, I'm saying that VD's getting screwed statistically by 40 passes for which lack of efficiency and yardage were more the fault of his QB. It's true that every receiver's DVOA, DYAR, and EYds are affected by non-drop incompletions. However, the specific case of VD illustrates that some receivers are more negatively affected by inaccurate QBs than others. If anything, I'd love to see what VD's advanced stats would be if FO only considered targets that resulted in completions or drops, and omitted those that fell incomplete because of the QB.

It turns out that, if you look at the full TE rankings, you actually find statistical evidence of an across-the-board QB effect. Here's a table, sorted by Catch Rate, showing rankings for the TEs with 100 or more Targets, which represents the VD-like members of TE-focused pass OFFs:

TE

Catch Rate

DVOA

DYAR/T

Yds/T

EYds/T

Jason Witten

75.8%

9

11

10

11

Dallas Clark

75.2%

8

8

9

8

Antonio Gates

69.3%

2

2

1

2

Brent Celek

67.9%

7

10

6

10

Tony Gonzalez

61.9%

17

16

29

15

Kellen Winslow

61.1%

16

18

23

19

Vernon Davis

60.5%

19

19

18

21

Greg Olsen

55.6%

32

32

38

31

As expected, the four 100-Target TEs with high catch rates have rankings that are basically in the Top 10 of each category, whereas the opposite is true for the other 4. Now, do you notice the one glaring difference between the 2 groups? The difference, of course, is that the high-catch-rate group had Pro-Bowl-caliber QBs throwing them the ball, whereas the low-catch-rate group didn't.*

So, the moral of the story is that, rather than telling VD he needs to stop dropping so many passes, it's actually more accurate to say that Alex Smith needs to stop throwing so many incompletions on passes intended for VD. If he does that, then VD's efficiency stats will improve considerably. And, given the efficiency levels exhibited by the average playoff TE, that would be extremely valuable for the 49ers' playoff hopes. At least we now know that VD can improve on his own: Compared to 2008, his DVOA improved 33.4%, his DYAR/T improved 2.12 yards, and his EYds/T improved by a whopping 4.57 yards.

BREAKOUT OF CRABS IN 2010?

It's clear that VD just had his breakout season (finally), and that VD's breakout helped the Niners' pass OFF actually begin to look like an NFL-caliber unit. Nevertheless, it would do wonders for the Niners to have one of their young starting WRs to join the breakout party in 2010. So let's finish this post up with a look at the likelihood that Crabs and/or Morgan will break out.

For those of you who play fantasy football, you're probably aware of the 3rd-year WR breakout theory, which says that a WR's breakout season (if he ever has one) usually occurs during his 3rd year in the league. If you're stat savvy, you're probably aware that "the 3rd-year WR breakout theory" is a misnomer. Previous research shows that it should actually be called the 2nd-to-5th-year WR breakout theory. Here's a graph that illustrates the point:

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As you can see, the first major jump in 1,000-yard seasons actually coincides with 2nd-year WRs, and the peak occurs in Year 4, not Year 3. In fact, 5th-year WRs also post more 1,000-yard seasons than do 3rd-year WRs. So Year 3 isn't some magic number the way a lot of media outlets and pundits make it seem. What does seem relatively accurate, though, is that Year 3 typically begins a WRs peak years, which last until Year 6 or 7. Indeed, nearly 60% of all 1,000-yard seasons by a WR since 1977 were achieved by WRs in their 3rd through 7th seasons (288 of 487).

Going into 2010, the Niners' have 1 starting WR going into his 2nd year and the other going into his 3rd year. Given what I just presented, that makes Crabs and Morgan breakout candidates for 2010. However, it's not enough to know when WRs generally break out. For our purposes, we want to know how likely the Niners' WRs specifically are going to break out in 2010.

The available research to date suggests that at least one of them will. Tony Sans Nicolas and Matt Waldman of Fantasy Football Today did the earliest study on the topic and found the following using data from 1983-2003:

  • 85% of breakout WRs did so between Years 2-5 in their careers.
  • 81% had at least 41 receptions during the previous season.
  • 78% had at least 2 TDs during the previous season.
  • 71% had at least 400 receiving yards during the previous season.
  • On average, 5 WRs break out each season.

As important as it was, 1 flaw in their research was that they seem to have gotten cause and effect backwards. Specifically, they limited their sample to WRs that did break out, and then looked at what stats breakout WRs put up during the season prior to their breakout. The problem with this is that it tells you everything about breakout WRs, but nothing about non-breakout WRs; and the idea is to differentiate between the 2 groups, not to simply describe 1 group. It's not surprising then that, from 2004-2008, Waldman's accuracy rate for prediction was only around 50%, which, although still pretty good, isn't anything like the 70-80% probabilities found in the analysis. In short, it's much easier to explain the past by only analyzing the successes than it is to predict the future by analyzing both successes and failures.

Luckily, Phil Dussault of Ultimate Fantasy Football Strategy put the horse back in front of the cart, and actually determined breakout probabilities looking forward. Rather than looking only at breakout WRs, his sample included 543 2nd-to-5th-year WRs from 1990-2008 who met a specific criteria of production (at least 300 receiving yards & 10 games in consecutive seasons), regardless of whether or not they broke out. After statistically differentiating between the breakouts and non-breakouts, here's what he found:

  • Breakout probabilities differ depending on whether a WR in his 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th year.
  • 3rd-year WRs actually have the lowest breakout probability among WRs in Years 2-5 of their careers.
  • 43.5% of rookie WRs who had less than 70 catches, 1,000 receiving yards, 7 TDs, and a 0.120 TD-per-reception ratio ended up breaking out the following season.
  • 33.7% of 2nd-year WRs who had less than 70 catches, 1,000 receiving yards, a 0.150 TD-per-reception ratio, and averaged less than 17 yards per catch ended up breaking out the following season.
  • In general, 42.5% of 1st-to-4th-year WRs who scored 100-200 fantasy points, but averaged less than 0.060 TDs per reception, broke out the following season.

Obviously, situational factors like depth chart status, injury, and QB-caliber play an important role. Waldman also identified having a starting-caliber fantasy WR on the other side of the field and/or a starting-caliber fantasy RB as informative. Nevertheless, full-blown statistical studies incorporating these factors have yet to be done, so all we can go on as of right now is the starting point that Sans Nicolas, Waldman, and Dussault have provided.

Given the general similarities between the findings of the 2 studies, I think it's best at this point to treat them as complementary. So, here are 2 tables - 1 for Crabs and 1 for Morgan - showing all of the statistical criteria that either explain or predict WR breakouts, and whether or not Crabs and/or Morgan meet them:

General Breakout WR Characteristic

N

Crabtree

2010 Breakout?

Player Yr Within Range N

2-5

2

Yes

Recs in Prev Season > N

40

48

Yes

Rec Yds in Prev Season > N

399

625

Yes

TDs in Prev Season > N

1

2

Yes

TDs per Rec in Prev Season < N

0.060

0.042

Yes

FF Pts in Prev Season Within Range N

100-200

122.5

Yes

2nd-Year Breakout WR Characteristic

N

Crabtree

2010 Breakout?

Recs in Prev Season < N

70

48

Yes

Rec Yds in Prev Season < N

1,000

625

Yes

TDs in Prev Season < N

7

2

Yes

TDs per Rec in Prev Season < N

0.120

0.04

Yes

 

General Breakout WR Characteristic

N

Morgan

2010 Breakout?

Player Yr Within Range N

2-5

3

Yes

Recs in Prev Season > N

40

52

Yes

Rec Yds in Prev Season > N

399

527

Yes

TDs in Prev Season > N

1

3

Yes

TDs per Rec in Prev Season < N

0.060

0.058

Yes

FF Pts in Prev Season Within Range N

100-200

122.7

Yes

3rd-Year Breakout WR Characteristic

N

Morgan

2010 Breakout?

Recs in Prev Season < N

70

52

Yes

Rec Yds in Prev Season < N

1,000

625

Yes

TDs in Prev Season < N

9

2

Yes

Rec Yds per Catch in Prev Season < N

17

10.13

Yes

TDs per Rec in Prev Season < N

0.150

0.058

Yes

Well, well. I think we have what's called unanimous consent here. When looking only at their 2009 stats, it's clear that both Crabs and Morgan fit the profile of a breakout WR in 2010. That's definitely a good thing for the Niners. Among the non-statistical factors, it seems like depth chart status, starting-caliber fantasy RB, and health all work in their favor. So, if everything stays the same as it is right now, the only thing that might stand in the way of Crabs and Morgan is - you guessed it - Alex Smith. If Smith improves enough to become a Top 15 QB in 2010, Crabs and/or Morgan are likely to break out. If he doesn't, then their favorable statistical profile won't matter nearly as much.

BOTTOM LINE

Just to recap, VD was awesome according to traditional stats, but merely average according to FO's stats; largely due to the fact that Alex Smith enjoyed throwing incompletions in VD's direction. Crabs and Morgan were pretty bad statistically speaking, but there were several mitigating circumstances working against them. Finally, the 49ers essentially played the entire season without a #3 WR.

So, based on the stats I've presented in Part 7 of the season review, here are the things the Niners need to do at the WR position in order to seriously contend in 2010:

  1. Continue to develop Alex Smith, especially when it comes to accuracy
  2. Set it and forget it: Put Crabs and Morgan on the field from Day 1, and leave them there the whole season
  3. Find a competent #3 WR and get him the ball frequently

The theme is clear. If the 49ers are going to make the playoffs next season, then their pass OFF must improve. Furthermore, the continued development of Alex Smith is the most likely catalyst for improvement.

* Remember, Gonzalez played 2 games with Chris Redman at QB, and 3 more with an injured Matt Ryan at QB. Also, although Jay Cutler might be considered a Pro-Bowl-caliber QB based on his last season with the Broncos, he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in his first season with the Bears.

**DVOA, DYAR, and EYds statistics used to produce this article were provided by Football Outsiders.

Poll
Which of the following is MOST LIKELY to happen in 2010?
VD's catch rate increases from 60% to 70%
76 votes
Crabs has 1,000 receiving yards
590 votes
Morgan has 1,000 receiving yards
6 votes
The 49ers' #3 WR has 500 or more receiving yards
48 votes

720 votes | Poll has closed

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That was an easy poll for me.

Crabs over 1000 yards is what I picked.

by hudd07 on Feb 28, 2010 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

Me too.

I’m looking to draft him in FF in the later rounds as I did with Ray Rice last year.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Feb 28, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Who let you grab Rice in the late rounds last year?

If he was getting drafted outside of round 6 you were drafting with a bunch of chumps.

xanthan: "Sabean is going to get 2 year extensions for the rest of our lives. We just need to deal with that realization."
Missing Barry: "If I deal with that realization and the realization that Cohan is never going to sell the Warriors….well, for my own health, I’m not going to acknowledge those things."

by the guy on Feb 28, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Round 7 or 8, I think.

They weren’t chumps though.
I finished 2nd in that league.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Feb 28, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

An idea

Why not put Delanie Walker as the No.3 Receiver?
After all, he really was the No.3 Receiver….Wasn’t he?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Feb 28, 2010 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

To clarify

I’m asking for a statistical review of Delanie Walker’s season.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Feb 28, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

walker...

had 33 targets all season, whereas bruce had 49 in less than half a season. regardless, bruce wasn’t ever technically the #3 WR. he started as #1, then he was #2 when crabtree arrived, then he was in street clothes. i only used bruce as way to highlight how bad the niners’ 3rd-best WR in 2009 was compared to NO’s 3rd-best and #3s for the playoff teams.

but, since you asked, walker’s stats were

DVOA = -20.0% (41st among TEs)
DYAR/T = -0.88 (41st among TEs)
Yds/T = 7.06 (22nd among TEs)
EYds/T = 3.88 (39th among TEs)

so, he was decent when looking at unadjusted NFL stats like Yds/T, but much worse when being evaluated by advanced measures of value and efficiency. sounds like the rest of the niners’ receivers to me. and this simply reflects an inefficient pass OFF overall.

by Florida Danny on Feb 28, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks.

So who was the 49ers real #3 Receiver?
Frank Gore?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Feb 28, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Josh Morgan

What kind of breakout do you really expect? He’s a #2 WR at best and played like a #3/4 WR last year. I don’t think he would/will ever be a 1,000 yard receiver unless he suddenly gets traded to the Colts or Saints and their #1/2 WRs get injured.

As for Crabtree, he is one of the best pure possession WR prospects in the league. He should be able to get 1,000 yards if healthy next year because there simply aren’t many targets on this team to throw to. If the Niners address the WR need in the draft, then maybe he falls short of 1,000 yards and that would be a good thing because other guys would step up.

Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....

by youALREADYknow on Feb 28, 2010 3:30 PM PST reply actions  

A Further Assessment ...

I don’t enjoy being negative. However, it is my opinion that Josh Morgan will NEVER be a really effective #2 receiver; he is our #2 right now simply becasuse we don’t have anybody better. So, IMO IN ADDITION to focusing on improving Smith’s accuracy and completion percentage, improving Crab’s and VD’s productivity, adding Spiller as a COP RB / slot WR, we should draft Demaryius Thomas (Georgia Tech) at #49 in the second round — a guy that has the POTENTIAL to be a REAL #2 receiver. He would be a very nice complement to Crab’s skills. I do believe that Josh Morgan can be an effective #3 although he needs to improve his decision-making and route-running skills. Brandon Jones and Jason Hill will need to prove that they can outplay Morgan to get more playing time.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 28, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

three things...

1) thanks for prefacing your comment with “in my opinion”

2) i’m not sure i agree with you about morgan only being the #2 WR because the niners don’t have anybody better. obviously, if they had jerry rice and john taylor at starting WR, morgan wouldn’t be the #2; but there’s an ocean between that tandem and the 49ers’ current stable of WRs, or the current stable of WRs on most of the other NFL teams. rather than expecting him to be the second coming of john taylor, let’s look at what teams on which he could be the #2 WR, going from top to bottom in pass OFF DVOA:

SD = yes (morgan comparable to floyd)
NE = no
DAL = yes (roy williams hasn’t been “really effective” for years)
MIN = yes (berrian = f/a bust)
NO = no
IND = no
PIT = no
HOU = yes (#2 is irrelevant there)
GB = no
NYG = no
BAL = yes (wrong mark clayton)
PHI = no (but #2 and #3 are interchangeable there, like in NO, and maclin comparable to morgan)
ATL = yes (jenkins? please)
ARI = no
DEN = no
CIN = no (coles = f/a bust)
TEN = yes (they’re barely 1 deep)
MIA = yes (they’re barely 1 deep)
WAS = yes (thomas still unproven)
JAC = yes (holt just released)
CAR = yes (they’ve been 1 deep for 5 years)
CHI = yes (they’re barely 1 deep)
TB = yes (they’re barely 1 deep)
BUF = no
KC = no (at least until chambers craps out like clockwork)
SEA = yes (they have 5 #3 WRs)
NYJ = no
CLE = yes (comments unnecessary)
OAK = yes (ditto)
DET = yes (ditto)
STL = yes (ditto)

by my count, morgan would be the #2 WR on 18 of the 31 other teams. the whole point of a depth chart is that starter A is only starting because the team doesn’t have anyone better. if they did, he wouldn’t be. you could say this about a variety of positions on every team in the league. morgan shouldn’t be getting penalized in our minds because the only guys he has to beat out for #2 are a 50-year old WR and the human roster exemption (battle). it’s not his fault those guys suck as bad as they do.

3) i’m not clear as to why you think morgan will NEVER be a really effective #2 WR. based on what? the guy was a 6th-round pick who ended up his rookie season as the #2 and had TDs in 3 straight road games that season. then, they name him the week 1 starter in his 2nd season. then, after benching him to make way for their $50 million draft pick, they put him back into the starting lineup at a position that he just started practicing a few weeks prior. what part of that progression signals “will never be really effective” to you? to me, it seems like the niner coaching staff has undying faith in him, and thinks he’s a big part of their WR future. whether he ends up being “really effective” is anyone’s guess, but to proclaim at this juncture in his career that he never will be seems a little premature and belies much of the evidence to date.

by Florida Danny on Feb 28, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think you are reaching on a lot of those “yes teams”. And some of the “no teams” should be “yes teams”. I guess you are basing it on that DVOA/ DYAR stuff though eh? I don’t think Josh Morgan is the answer as a solid number two. He makes a TON of mental errors. He stays up when he’s wrapped around the ankles leaving himself wide open for turnover. His speed may not be average… I don’t see it. I think he can be a solid number three but not much more.

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.

by Drew K on Feb 28, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

actually...

i didn’t look once at DVOA, DYAR, etc. to compile that list. was completely off the top of my head. i was responding to comments that were “their opinion,” so i’m continuing the convo outside the stat realm as much as possible. personally, i think writing off morgan after about 1 full season of starting, ignoring how much progress he’s made as a 6th-rd pick, borders on over-the-top pessimism. it’s pretty obvious that the niners’ brass adamantly disagrees with the assessment.

by Florida Danny on Feb 28, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

and...

i’m a big believer in deferring to NFL personnel professionals when wondering about football talent evaluation. quantifiable performance? i defer to very few. whether a guy will ever be able to snap off a dig route? i’ll go with what mcsing thinks.

by Florida Danny on Feb 28, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I would have said No to

DAL = no (Crayton is their #2)
MIN = no (Berrian was hurt most of the season)
CIN = no (agree no, but Coles isn’t a flat out bust, just not a low end #2)
SEA = no (Burleson playing 1/2 season would still be more productive than Morgan. SEA main problem is the #1)

by bignerd on Feb 28, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

All these players had more receptions that Morgan, and Morgan had the number one spot all to himself for 5 weeks pretty much

Rk Player Team Pos Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st 1st% FUM
1 Wes Welker NE WR 123 1,348 11.0 96.3 58 4 8 3 71 57.7 1
2 Steve Smith NYG WR 107 1,220 11.4 76.2 51 7 14 2 61 57.0 0
3 Andre Johnson HOU WR 101 1,569 15.5 98.1 72T 9 22 9 69 68.3 1
3 Brandon Marshall DEN WR 101 1,120 11.1 74.7 75T 10 11 4 56 55.4 0
5 Dallas Clark IND TE 100 1,106 11.1 69.1 80T 10 11 3 59 59.0 1
5 Reggie Wayne IND WR 100 1,264 12.6 79.0 65T 10 20 1 73 73.0 0
7 Larry Fitzgerald ARI WR 97 1,092 11.3 68.2 34T 13 12 0 69 71.1 0
8 Hines Ward PIT WR 95 1,167 12.3 72.9 54 6 15 4 56 58.9 2
9 Jason Witten DAL TE 94 1,030 11.0 64.4 69 2 11 2 48 51.1 0
10 Roddy White ATL WR 85 1,153 13.6 72.1 90T 11 13 4 54 63.5 1
11 Anquan Boldin ARI WR 84 1,024 12.2 68.3 44 4 10 1 49 58.3 3
12 Tony Gonzalez ATL TE 83 867 10.4 54.2 27 6 4 0 54 65.1 0
12 Randy Moss NE WR 83 1,264 15.2 79.0 71T 13 18 7 62 74.7 2
12 Sidney Rice MIN WR 83 1,312 15.8 82.0 63 8 19 7 59 71.1 1
15 Miles Austin DAL WR 81 1,320 16.3 82.5 60T 11 21 8 59 72.8 1
16 Antonio Gates SD TE 79 1,157 14.6 72.3 56 8 18 1 61 77.2 1
16 Santonio Holmes PIT WR 79 1,248 15.8 78.0 57 5 21 3 63 79.7 0
16 T.J. Houshmandzadeh SEA WR 79 911 11.5 56.9 53 3 11 1 52 65.8
19 Vernon Davis SF TE 78 965 12.4 60.3 73T 13 13 3 40 51.3 0
19 Ray Rice BAL RB 78 702 9.0 43.9 63 1 7 3 28 35.9 1
21 Kellen Winslow TB TE 77 884 11.5 55.2 42T 5 10 1 47 61.0 0
22 Davone Bess MIA WR 76 758 10.0 47.4 34T 2 6 0 48 63.2 2
22 Brent Celek PHI TE 76 971 12.8 60.7 47T 8 16 3 42 55.3 0
22 Heath Miller PIT TE 76 789 10.4 49.3 41 6 8 1 37 48.7 2
25 Derrick Mason BAL WR 73 1,028 14.1 64.2 72T 7 9 4 55 75.3 0
26 Chad Ochocinco CIN WR 72 1,047 14.5 65.4 50 9 15 3 55 76.4 2
27 Marques Colston NO WR 70 1,074 15.3 67.1 68 9 18 4 54 77.1 2
27 Donald Driver GB WR 70 1,061 15.2 66.3 71T 6 15 5 49 70.0 2
27 Santana Moss WAS WR 70 902 12.9 56.4 59T 3 14 4 40 57.1 2
30 Vincent Jackson SD WR 68 1,167 17.2 77.8 55 9 17 4 58 85.3 0
30 Greg Jennings GB WR 68 1,113 16.4 69.6 83T 4 16 6 48 70.6 0
32 Calvin Johnson DET WR 67 984 14.7 70.3 75T 5 15 4 46 68.7 3
33 Zach Miller OAK TE 66 805 12.2 53.7 86T 3 9 1 31 47.0 0
34 Steve Smith CAR WR 65 982 15.1 65.5 66 7 15 7 41 63.1 1
35 Nate Burleson SEA WR 63 812 12.9 62.5 44T 3 10 1 42 66.7 2
35 Tim Hightower ARI RB 63 428 6.8 26.8 23 0 2 0 22 34.9 0
35 Mike Sims-Walker JAC WR 63 869 13.8 57.9 61T 7 12 2 43 68.3 2
38 DeSean Jackson PHI WR 62 1,156 18.6 77.1 71T 9 18 10 40 64.5
39 Austin Collie IND WR 60 676 11.3 42.2 39T 7 11 0 37 61.7 0
39 Percy Harvin MIN WR 60 790 13.2 52.7 51T 6 12 3 42 70.0 1
39 Greg Olsen CHI TE 60 612 10.2 38.2 41 8 9 1 33 55.0 0
42 Jerricho Cotchery NYJ WR 57 821 14.4 58.6 53 3 13 4 44 77.2 0
42 Matt Forte CHI RB 57 471 8.3 29.4 37 0 6 0 17 29.8 1
42 Devin Hester CHI WR 57 757 13.3 58.2 48 3 12 3 34 59.6 1
42 Mario Manningham NYG WR 57 822 14.4 58.7 49 5 15 2 41 71.9 1
46 Jeremy Maclin PHI WR 56 773 13.8 51.5 56 4 11 3 34 60.7 0
46 Visanthe Shiancoe MIN TE 56 566 10.1 35.4 27 11 4 0 38 67.9 0
48 Bernard Berrian MIN WR 55 618 11.2 38.6 40 4 5 1 35 63.6 0
48 Steve Breaston ARI WR 55 712 12.9 47.5 45 3 12 1 33 60.0 0
48 Jermichael Finley GB TE 55 676 12.3 52.0 62T 5 9 1 29 52.7 1
Rk Player Team Pos Rec Yds Avg Yds/G Lng TD 20+ 40+ 1st 1st% FUM
48 Terrell Owens BUF WR 55 829 15.1 51.8 98T 5 9 5 33 60.0 1
52 Earl Bennett CHI WR 54 717 13.3 44.8 71 2 15 1 32 59.3 1
52 Jabar Gaffney DEN WR 54 732 13.6 45.8 49 2 12 1 36 66.7 0
54 Todd Heap BAL TE 53 593 11.2 37.1 31 6 10 0 33 62.3 0
54 Maurice Jones-Drew JAC RB 53 374 7.1 23.4 19 1 0 0 16 30.2 0
54 Muhsin Muhammad CAR WR 53 581 11.0 41.5 27 1 7 0 32 60.4 0
54 Kevin Walter HOU WR 53 611 11.5 43.6 41 2 7 1 33 62.3 0
58 Frank Gore SF RB 52 406 7.8 29.0 48 3 3 1 13 25.0 0

Some of these guys are number two’s on their respective teams conflicting with your list up there. It’s not based solely on stats either. I don’t think he has the capability of a strong number 2. And what I mean by that, is a guy to step in and take over if our number one happens to go down. I don’t see that in Morgan one bit.

All offensive draft to balance out rlott#42's mock. 1- Spiller, 2- Campbell, 2- Benn, 3- Asamoah, 4- Ford, 5- Wang, 6- Moeaki, 6 (comp)- Holliday, 7- Z. Robinson

by Drew K on Feb 28, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Everyone of those players had a better arm throwing to them.

It’s hard to gage anyone’s stats in the first 5 weeks, since Hill’s inability to go downfield had a domino effect.

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by rlott#42 on Feb 28, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

1st 4 games with Hill as QB = 13 Receptions
1st 4 games with Smith as QB = 10 Receptions

I am not so sure that is the best argument in his defense.

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew K on Mar 1, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

i think...

you’re missing my point, which is that making the declaration above is waaaaaaaaaay too premature for a WR who’s only had 1 full year’s worth of starting games. throw in the fact that, as i said, we’re talking about a 6th-round pick who became a starter at the end of his rookie season, then learned a new WR position, got a new QB, and started in a new offense in the middle of his 2nd season, and i just don’t see how you’re coming to such a snap conclusion when the aforementioned physical evidence actually points to the opposite conclusion.

i guess it’s just my philosophy with WRs to not cut bait 30 seconds into a guy’s career, esp when all he’s shown is a propensity to overcome every set of odds stacked against him. i don’t think you really realize just how impressive it is for a WR to be starting so early in his career. go through your list above and tell me how many of the WRs on there were starters to begin their second season, regardless of how crappy the other WRs on their team were.

in fact, here’s a list of every WR since 1977 to start 15 or more games in his 2nd season. there’s 80 on the list, meaning that, out of every WR to play 2 seasons in the NFL since 1977 (which i have to believe is in the 1,000s), only 80 started as many or more games than morgan in their 2nd season. in other words, he’s already accomplished something that probably 95% of all WRs never accomplish…and you already want to cut bait? it doesn’t make sense to me.

by Florida Danny on Feb 28, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Meh

I guess we will see more next season. I think he makes way too many mental errors

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew K on Feb 28, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

keep in mind...

i’m the guy that constantly points out his 8 yard gain on 3rd and 9.

by Florida Danny on Feb 28, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that's the most important one

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Feb 28, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that’s one thing, and a pretty important one at that… his awareness is not what it should be. His concentration seems at flight sometimes as well. Personally, I would like to see a number two have some speed, speed enough to make it to the endzone if he beats his guy and has 25-30 yards to run (Atl Game). He drops passes when they are right on his numbers (Ten Game, G.B. Game, Rams game, others). Overall, I would just say, as of now, he has a bundle of things to work on, and some of them (i.e. the awareness) may not be fixable. It falls under the category of natural instinct. He does have some instinct, don’t get me wrong, but is it enough to be a solid number 2? We have had relatively good tandems for most of the franchise’s history:

Billy Wilson/ RC Owens
Gene Washington/ Freddie Solomon
Freddie Solomon/ Dwight Clark
Dwight Clark/ Jerry Rice
Jerry Rice/ John Taylor
Jerry Rice/ Terrell Owens

That is roughly 5 decades of awesome tandems. Now some of the numbers are lower for the beginning guys because of the evolution of the game. But point remains the same. I just am not sure that Morgan is going to fit in this equation. Call it a gut, a hunch, or what you will but it is just how I feel about Morgan. I like him and want him to do well, I just think we can do better is all. To me it feels like we have half of a great tandem with Crabtree. Ihope we draft a guy in the 2nd to light a fire under Morgan and drive out either his best or his worst… then we’ll know for sure where he stands with the team.

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew K on Mar 1, 2010 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

And just for the record, I never said cut bait. Haha. He would be a very good 3rd reciever like Mike Wilson or Mike Sherrard in the 80’s

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew K on Mar 1, 2010 1:01 AM PST up reply actions  

ok...

so morgan becomes sherrard/mcaffrey? i can live with that.

one thing i’ll add that isn’t specific to morgan is that, if you look at the stat tables in the post, you see that #2 WR is easily the least important of the 4 receiver positions i detailed. so, whether or not he turns out to be a really effficient #2 isn’t as important as, let’s say, crabtree becoming a really efficient #1 or the niners finding a competent #3.

by Florida Danny on Mar 1, 2010 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

just so i'm clear...

i’m talking about the NFL trend here…obviously, if morgan becomes a great #2, then it helps the niners…duh. just want to make sure noone thinks i’m saying they shouldn’t give a crap about morgan’s development.

by Florida Danny on Mar 1, 2010 8:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I think most of that stuff can be worked on

I don’t think Morgan will ever be a #1 guy but he might make a decent #2 given some time.

For a guy drafted in the 6th round he’s done pretty good for himself.

I still want to get someone else though.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Mar 1, 2010 1:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Danny’s finger pointing at Alex Smith/Shaun Hill account for a part of Morgan’s troubles along with everyone else who is receiving target.

by bignerd on Mar 1, 2010 2:05 AM PST up reply actions  

personally...

i think that his 8-yard-gain-on-3rd-and-9 is only partly his fault. from what i remember, a lot of those were plays where he was the underneath outlet receiver, caught a 4 yard pass, and was expected to pick up the other 5 yards with 3 tacklers around him. i’m not saying all of them were like that, but a “lack of awareness,” suggests that the guy was catching the ball 8 yards downfield and stepping out of bounds in front of the marker…or running his 3rd down routes a yard short. i remember a lot less of this kind of stuff than of him simply having to elude a couple of tacklers. maybe it’s true that he isn’t an elusive runner with the ball, but that doesn’t have anything to do with awareness.

also, as i’ve said before in the context of VD’s targets, the fact that they throw morgan the ball so much on 3rd down is something that shouldn’t be ignored, regardless of whether or not he ends up being efficient. it suggests a high amount of confidence from the coaching staff, and that goes a long way in re the depth chart.

by Florida Danny on Mar 1, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Voted for Crabcakes

Because I think (hope) Smith will be a top 15 QB if: we keep Pashos and get a legit starting RT in the draft.

by madmatt on Feb 28, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

Pashos is a legit starting RT.

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by rlott#42 on Feb 28, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing to add

Besides the development of Alex Smith, the improvement of the offensive line is also a factor: better protection and more time to throw means the receivers have gone a bit further on their routes (to get that first down) and throws are less hurried and more accurate.

by Rabbit T on Mar 1, 2010 6:37 AM PST reply actions  

stay tuned...

haven’t brought up the OL because they’re their own article.

by Florida Danny on Mar 1, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

OK

My point was continuing from yours, on how the performance of one position affects another.

by Rabbit T on Mar 1, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see Jason Hill as the #2

Brandon Jones as the #3
Josh Morgan as the #4/kick returner

They're called RUNS for a reason.

by connie mack on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

I’m not really sure what Jason Hill has done to make anyone think he’s a better option at #2 than Josh Morgan.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Jones

Anyone think he could step up as the #3 receiver next year? I’d like to see him get a chance to return punts as well. We paid for this guy let’s get him on the field.

by Josh Branco on Mar 1, 2010 9:53 AM PST reply actions  

no reason to think...

he couldn’t…just doesn’t seem like the coaching staff has much confidence. of course, it’s not like the niners have anyone else to play #3 WR.

by Florida Danny on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

They may have just wanted him to heal up 100% and used him sparingly because of that.

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by Drew K on Mar 1, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

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