Overtime
by tanos135 on Mar 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST
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Hello NN. I don't post much but I do read a lot of what is posted on this site. This is my first attempt at a real thought provoking post.
I just read on Mike Sando's blog where he and John Clayton debate an overtime rule change. http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/15327/double-coverage-overtime-debate
That said I wanted to bring up the question of what do the fans think?
There are a few options and many reasons why this should be looked at. My question is what do you think? Does the coin flip really take away from the drama? I agree with what Sando says that if they do change the rule it should be for all games not just the playoffs. I do however disagree with the proposed change what I like to call the "Brett Favre Rule".
My thoughts are conflicted. I like the idea of the first team to score a touchdown wins regardless of which team gets first possession, that way the quick FG doesn't end it. My other thought is I don't like OT anyways (Been on the edge of my seat to many times watching Niners games, much to the dismay of my doctor and my wife.) I'm a believer in if you can't win in regulation than you don't deserve to win. On the other hand if a team is down and makes the comeback to get to OT they then should get the shot at the win.
As you can see I'm twisted on this subject so I wanted to see what other fans thought.
Here is a poll and feel free to give your thoughts in the comments.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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I have always said...
if you (being a, or the, team) did not play good enough to win before going into overtime, then they should not put any blame on a coin toss and/or complain they did not get a chance on offense in OT. Because if they had played good enough to win, they would have already won and not be in an OT situation to begin with.
if they had played good enough to win, they would have already won
But the same goes for the other team. Seems odd to penalize one team for not playing well enough to win in regulation, but to reward the other team for the exact same thing.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
OT only in playoffs
Have teams bid on starting field position, first score wins.
Leave it
I miss Joe Montana/Steve Young/Jeff Garcia
by Mr HowsYourWife on Mar 10, 2010 2:31 PM PST reply actions
Don't try to fix what isn't broke.
The winning percentage of teams winning the coin toss is hovering at around 60%. Also having a sudden death overtime makes for some great drama.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
first team to 6 points. 2 fgs or 1 TD wins it. Still high drama sudden death and it won’t feel like such an anti-climax. Teams can try for a FG on their first drive, but they’ll have to have faith in their D to prevent a TD. if they don’t go for the feild goal on 4th down then they’ll have to get a touchdown on their next try.
I really like this idea
This sounds the most fair to me. I would also be in favor of an 8 min.overtime period. Just play out the whole 8 min. (Heard the idea on Around the Horn)
I kinda like the idea of 1st TD in the playoffs wins
It would make it more exciting I think. Anyone can pass the ball 35 yards to kick the 3. A TD makes it more definitive. Also brings more strategy in to play.
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
I agree, but ...
If it’s good for the playoffs, why not for all games?
by 49erFanSince1950 on Mar 10, 2010 4:28 PM PST reply actions
That's my thinking too
I don’t want to have different rules for playoffs than regular season. If they make this change it should apply to all games.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I think why the playoffs are the only thing being considered, is for the potential time it could take for a game to end. There are several games in a regular season opposed to not so many in the playoffs. TV time for regular programming and all of that is a factor
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
There aren't that many games that go into overtime during the regular season
in the 2009 season there were a total of 256 NFL games played. Of those 256 only 7 went int overtime. That’s only 2% of the regular season games that go into overtime.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
But that's not the problem
the problem is that even those few OT games interfere with regular programing…and in most cases, it’s news or other football games. Do you know how upset I would be if the Niners were had a late game on FOX, and there was an OT game that kept going for 2 hours longer? Pissed to put it mildy. The average OT game with the way it is now is not too long usually. But usually in the playoffs there is two game on different channels on Saturday and then Sunday, so it they would not conflict. You see what I mean? It wouldn’t work in regular seasons for a lot of valid reasons.
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
Didn't think about the double-header aspect
We could always go back to no overtime at all during the regular season like it used to be.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I didn't think about this
as I have Sunday Ticket. Though I recall the days when I did not and was mad if an OT game ran long and I missed some of the Niners game.
Because of the TV contracts
Long overtime periods aren’t good in the regular season.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 10, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
In the playoffs play another quarter 12 minutes
If there is another tie at the end sudden death in the 2nd OT. Personally I wouldn’t change it at all, if the Vikings made a diferent call, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. 35 yards then a FG is fine, because you still have ot make the FG. What’s next adding 5 downs and 20 yd first downs and getting rid of FG’s?
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
College style overtime would take care of that
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
No it doesn't, there isn't gonna be a ball placement across the 50, then you only have to go 35 yards for a touchdown, it is no where near college rules.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Besides
One of the main arguments is that teams only need to go 35 yards to get 3 points. So how can what I am suggesting be compared to college rules?
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
I'm not saying it is like college rules
I’m saying that college rules would take care of the whole adding time, downs, etc.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I see what you are saying now, my apologies.
Frankly I want to see people stop crying and play it as is. The team can’t get in done in 4 quarters, you know it’s sudden death OT. Your players make millions and need to man up.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
You could just eliminate OT during the regular season
if neither team is good enough to win by the end of regulation call it good and move on.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I'd rather leave it like it is, but that is not a bad idea.
The playoff pish would be more interesting
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Give each team a drive
If at the end of that they’re still tied, sudden death from that point on.
With one tweak: if the other team scores a touchdown and kicks the extra point, and then you score a touchdown, you have to go for the 2-point conversion.
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I agree with everything but the tweak. This really is the simplest, most obviously fair solution.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
Another really good suggestion I heard once was this: When the fourth quarter ends, just go into extra time right there. No coin flip. No new quarter. Just instant sudden death. If the fourth quarter ends and the opponent is on your one yard line on second down, now they’re in that same exact down and distance, but they win if they score.
It definitely would make the fourth quarter of close games a hell of a lot more interesting.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 11, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
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