First Round Picks
by gbears16 on Mar 10, 2010 1:07 PM PST
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PrintI know that this should probably be asked in the Mock draft thread, but I wanted to attach a poll to it to see what the majority of Niners Nation thought about this. Trading our first round picks have been talked about a lot in the Mock draft thread so I wanted to see what you guys thought about what we should do with our first round picks rather than the players we should take. Personally I would like to trade the 13th and change to move up to try to get Eric Berry if he is available around the 7th pick. Then I would like to try to trade the 17th back to the end of the first round or into the second. Maybe packaging both the 13th and 17th to move up and get a 2nd or 3rd in return.
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Except I am not sure there will be any OL (Right Tackle specifically) worthy of picking when it’s our turn
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
That's what I'm beginning to think too
and I think reaching for a pure RT in the 1st (like Trent Williams) is a mistake. I love me some Iupati but I haven’t made up my mind if he’s worth drafting at #17 yet or not.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
If the 49ers don't take him at 17
A lot of new mocks I’ve read have the Steelers taking him at 18. I don’t care if the 49ers draft Iupati or one of the top tackles, they just have to get at least one of them.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
I liked Drews Mock of Spiller, Iupati, then Saffold in 2nd
Should give us 2 starters on Offensive line and we didn’t reach for RT.
I may be booed for this opinion :-)
But I think that Iupati is kind of a) a reach (as noted by smileyman) and b) kind of a waste to use a 17 on and we can move that down even just a bit and get more tokens for the dance. I feel we can get a good enough guard (read really good guard) at a pick in a later round. This is where you find guards. Saffold in the second at RT and then use the 17 pick to either grab a good CB or rush DE or such or lower it a bit and then do that.
That’s my feeling. Overall as far as the two picks, play it like a deal in black jack, one up, one down.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 18, 2010 4:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Draft Brandon Graham and Charles Brown
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 6. Jake Sharp 7.Preston Parker
Charles Brown can't play RT
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 10, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
link?
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 6. Jake Sharp 7.Preston Parker
Common Sense
Living in the LA area, I get every single USC game. I’ve seen every USC game for the past 4 years or so.
He’s a zone blocking LT.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 11, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
Draft OL and ?
We have to get a tackle but idk who else
I miss Joe Montana/Steve Young/Jeff Garcia
by Mr HowsYourWife on Mar 10, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions
Trade both first rounds for the Browns 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks.
by manraj7 on Mar 10, 2010 2:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Wow
Everyone wants to draft for needs.
I guess nobody remembers the Donahue drafts.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
I think the 49ers should take Joe Haden if he's still there at 13
It doesn’t exactly fill a need but I think he’s too good to pass up at that spot in the draft. If not, like I agreed to above, take Spiller and the best Oline player available.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
It depends on what you think of Haden
Personally, I don’t think he’ll ever be a good NFL starting CB.
So I wouldn’t draft him in the first two rounds.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 10, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
He excelled at everything in the combine except for the 40
But football isn’t played in a straight line. I seem to remember another player that fell down the draft board because people were concerned about his speed. Good thing for the 49ers that Crabtree wasn’t the fastest WR in the draft last year.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
That's not true
Haden also looked terrible in the CB drills.
He didn’t get low enough, he stumbled when trying to turn and run and looked like a very poor corner.
Not only that, he wasn’t even that good at Florida, he benefited from an elite front 7 and all he had to do was play press coverage all day without ever worrying about a deep ball.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 11, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
obviously BPA v Need isn’t black and white. We won’t pick a first round 4-3 DE no matter how good he is. We draft BPA that fits a need. we have enough needs that that works.
BOOBIES
Best On Our Board In Each Situation
-Not my joke but I can’t remember who thought this up.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 10, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I came up with BOOBS in some thread
then someone else modified it to BOOBIES which sounds better
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Why not have both
BPA for a seriously needed position? Sometimes the BPA isn’t the Best Player for a team. Maybe there is a reason why some 1st/2nd rounders are a bust. Just a thought.
Not BPA that fits a need !
First ,Its gotta be BPA that fits our system ! Lets say were in desperate need of a punter
Would you draft the best available with a first round pick? I really dont think so! It would be too much of a reach regardless of our need . In the same way we just can’t reach for the top tackle in the first , if the remaining prospects are only rated as second rounders .
BPA all the way !!!
Trade up to get Berry and acquire more picks otherwise gnab Spiller and trade back
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Lots of tackles available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I'd prefer Calloway or Valdheer in the 2nd, and in my honest opinion Mike Johnson is not a bad Guard neither is Poncey or Asamoah
Two 2nd round picks are more fitting to what we need and it would be bes to get two 3rd as well and we can have a helluva draft.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Yup
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Mar 10, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
This is what I would like us to do as well
trade 1b to someone and get an extra 2nd and 3rd. We’ll find more offensive line value in the 2nd and 3rd than in the 1st at #17
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I have a feeling berry is gonna fall to us at 13
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by swagger on Mar 10, 2010 10:36 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You're on your own, the Dolphins would not pass on him.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Last year they said the raiders wouldnt pass on crabtree
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by swagger on Mar 11, 2010 1:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Davis =/= Parcells
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 11, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
If one of the top LBs is there or one of the top D linemen they'll take those guys over Berry
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Raiders?? or Dolphins??
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Dolphins will go LB or D line
Raiders will go with D-line I think
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Didn't t he Dolphins release their safety, they just added in FA last year?
I cannot see them passing on Berry unless they want an OLB that they are sure won’t be there in the 2nd, like Graham.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
It was a corner… Will Allen to the Steelers. So they could go after Joe Haden possibly too
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
Miami is a hard one to predict because of Joey Porter and Jason Taylor… their NT is suspended for the first 8 games of the year too. They have zero pass rush is Porter and Taylor go, and they lost one of, if not, their best Cornerback. Davis could be better eventually but Will Allen was a better corner last year.
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
Gibril Wilson?
He was terrible and I’m pretty sure he’s been released.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 11, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
They took two corners laast year, that's why Allen was let go, they have smith and davis.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Dolphins will take spiller. Only team i see giving a hard look at berry is detroiy
49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
by swagger on Mar 11, 2010 4:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Detroit?
And the Chiefs, Browns, Jags, and Seahawks.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Chiefs?
They have Jamaal Charles
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 14, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Dolphins don’t need Spiller. Ronnie Brown will be back as well as Ricky Williams
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
I thought Ricky Williams was retiring
And Ronnie Brown is coming off an injury.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 14, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ricky hasn't made an official announcement yet
he said this year would be his last, but it’s kind of hard to hang up your cleats after a 1200 yard season
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
He's still under contract right?
I also believe that Ronnie Brown has been tendered….?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 15, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
he signed a 1 year deal for 2009.
Ronnie was tendered with a 1st round offer
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Have the Dolphins offered him another contract?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see that happening
They have a need for a safety and if the best one is right there, why not grab him?
There will be other LBs and DLs, only one Berry.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 11, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
I kinda get that feeling too.
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Mar 11, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Maurkice Pouncey
would be a great pickup in round two. He’s got the makings of a great center ,and plays a mean guard too ! His choice would also clear the Cody Wallace " ballast " we’ve been carrying for two years with ZERO RETURN on investment!!
Hard to get a return on a backup Center when we have a Center.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Here's another option
trade our 1st round 17 to Balty for Gaither (see if you can get a 5th rounder or such as well, see what you can wheel and deal) and then at 13 trade down if we can if Spiller is gone by the or trade lower. In other words get your tackle and play it fluid. I love Pouncey but unless we move pretty low in the draft I can’t see the value in picking him up. He could play guard for a while as he learns from Heitmann
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 11, 2010 4:09 AM PST reply actions
Why would you want Gaither at that price with his injury? You are aware of the injuries he sustained to the neck and spine?
Why not allow one of the great OL coaches to gage the talent correctly?
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
49ers baby
GRAHAM FROM MICHIGAN AND WILSON THE CB…..the most dominating players at the senior bowl……..
First Round '10 Draft
First off let me say that I don’t follow college ball. So grading college talent isn’t my strong point. But, the question of what to do with the 2 first round picks is a good one. I say trade both picks for multiple lower round picks. First, my observation is that first round picks are not worth the money or aggravation in general. You get a bust as often as a hit. Second, if you can pick up multiple picks in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds (or whatever the 2 first round picks are worth) I believe that the chances of getting real usable talent to fill the Niners needs are much more great. And at a cheaper price. Is it better to hope that one of the two first round picks will have an immediate impact as a rookie and filling only one need or getting six to eight solid picks to fill multiple needs? I just feel that it’s better to get good journeyman talent than to try for the brass ring and miss it.
Trade up the 13th
Trade the 17th+ a 3rd or 4th round to where ever we gotta be to get Eric Berry or to the rams for Suh. Use the 13th to get the best available player. Joe Haden/ CJ Spiller/ any RT.
Suh would be a luxury pick but imagine a DL of Smith, Franklin, and Suh. Our linebackers would have much less stress and the additional pressure on opposing QB’s would give our secondary additional help.
Berry would be the most idea pick for us. He would be a beat of a safety, but could also potentially be a shut down corner. I would love to secure us in the secondary by trading up for Berry and Haden falling for us, but there are more pressing needs elsewhere.
Trade up...
I’m all for the trade up to get Berry and secure more picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Berry will solidify our secondary for this year and beyond with Spencer, Goldson, Brown and whoever eventually replaces Clements.
2nd round can be used to get a RT (absolute must) and the other pick can be used to grab any other need position that merits the value (CB, OG, OLB, DLE, QB). And then with two picks in the third, you can grab any two of the previously mentioned positions with the best available at the time.
That would be a definite 2 starters from day 1 and three other potential starters who could at least contribute if they don’t crack the starting lineup.
Though, if we can’t get Berry, it all depends on who’s available when we select.
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