49ers reportedly trade Shaun Hill to Lions for 2011 seventh round draft pick
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Mar 14, 2010 11:32 AM PDT
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Matt Barrows has heard from league sources that the 49ers have agreed to trade Shaun Hill to the Detroit Lions for a 7th round pick in the 2011 draft. Scott Linehan coached Hill when he was in Minnesota back in 2005.
I'd imagine Hill will immediately become the backup QB to Matt Stafford. The Lions' backups last year were Daunte Culpepper and Drew Stanton (Patrick Ramsay joined the roster at some point). Culpepper is a free agent and will probably walk. Stanton and Hill would seem to compete for the #2 spot. The Lions drafted Drew Stanton in the second round of the 2007 draft, but he hasn't developed like they hoped. He lost some time to injury and has generally struggled as a pro.
And so, thus ends the Shaun Hill era in San Francisco. We'll have a more appropriate send-off at some point this week. Whatever your thoughts on Hill, he definitely had an impact in his time with the 49ers. When you can generate the kind of debate Hill generated, you've created some kind of impact.
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No kiddin’ Hill is definitely worth a 5th rounder.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
by rlott#42 on Mar 14, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep I was hoping for more..
well at least we got something for him. It was sounding like he would be released.
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
teams knew we were gonna end up releasing him.. this was about as little as we could get but sounds right
Yeah disclosure sucks :-)
If it wasn’t announced to everyone that we’d allowed him to seek a trade we might have been able to move it up to a 6th or maybe even a 5th. But oh well something for it at least. 4.2 on the trade chart LOL
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
not true
the writing was on the wall, the team was going to cut Hill. San Francisco is lucky to get anything in return.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 14, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hill
is definitely not worth a fifth rounder. He’s a 30 year old qb who has a weak arm and will only be a backup at best. We’re lucky we got something for him at all.
My Ultimate Realistic Mock Draft for 49ers
1A) Anthony Davis - RT Rutgers
1B) C.J. Spiller - RB/KR/PR Clemson
2) Kareem Jackson - CB Alabama
3) Demaryius Thomas - WR Georgia Tech
4) Mike Johnson - OG Alabama
5) Sean Canfield - QB Oregon State
6) Keaton Kristic - OLB Oregon State
7) Dexter Davis - OLB/DE Arizona State
+1
I just don’t know why the lions wouldn’t wait till Hill go released. I suppose for a 7th which isn’t all that significant it’s worth not having to worry that some other team is going to swoop in and offer him a chance to compete or something like that
by HaloFanInDC on Mar 14, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe they were worried
that if he was released that the Rams would jump on him? Don’t really see the Bucs going after him. Though do those same rules apply now (That if a player is waived/released then teams in order get first crack at him)? Worked out to their benefit a time or two last year if memory serves.
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Trade keeps the same contract in place
Lions might have thought a 7th rounder is worth not renegotiating with the player.
Good call
Hill’s salary is only $1.5 Million.
Had he been released, he would have been re-signed for more than that.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s all that surprising. For one, we’re probably overvaluing our own guy, which is the easiest thing to do as a fan. For another, it was pretty clear that he’d at least be released at some point. And for another, he’s a backup. I don’t know why another team would go out of their way to offer more than this.
It’s too bad we couldn’t get more, because he gave the team a lot over the last few years, but I can’t say I’m surprised.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 14, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was going to be released
I’m glad they were able to get anything.
I do think, however, that they should have tried to trade Hill before acquiring Carr.
Of course, if they failed to sign Carr….they would have been in some deep [site decorum]
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ll always have a special place in my heart for Hill. He was the QB at the first winning Niners game I attended. I hope he finds success with the Lions.
And yeah, 7th round? Weak.
by Chumley223 on Mar 14, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Mine too
I always liked Hill and he will be missed. He may have had a noodle arm but he knew how to manage a game and always had the team on his side. At least he got his 15 minutes. I will always love that picture of him with the 100% steroid free shirt on.
by Haggardninja on Mar 14, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
100% Steriod Free!
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
We didn’t need a t-shirt to figure out that Hill’s arm isn’t the strongest. Still love the guy though.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
Eat Shitake!
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 15, 2010 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions
McC really milked the Lions with this one
I thought Hill’s destination would be the Bears, that way he can strike back with Martz. But I guess Linehan took the if you can’t beat him join him approach with Hill.
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 6. Jake Sharp 7.Preston Parker
Maiocco too.
Carr’s signature & Hill’s physical are all that stand between a 49ers-Lions trade, Hill for 7th-round pick in ’11. http://bit.ly/a2BVUQ #fb
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Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 11:59 AM PDT reply actions
thanks for the memories
It was a great ride. Will root for you (not if/when you play us). God Bless!
Could this be the Brady type pick (j/k)!
Let's make a good team, a Great Team!
Much Love
to Shaun Hill
I miss Joe Montana/Steve Young/Jeff Garcia
by Mr HowsYourWife on Mar 14, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions
If nothing else
It was him being put into the starting role that initially gave me some optimism that this team is turning the corner. His time here should definitely be appreciated.
I also give McC some credit for getting this done sooner than later. I was convinced as soon as word went out on him being allowed to seek a trade that it couldn’t happen before the end of preseason.
by Mangoman on Mar 14, 2010 12:59 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I can’t believe it was for a 2011 pick, unless it’s conditional on snaps or playing time or something. I personally would have let him stay for a little longer to see how fast Carr catches on.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
That would have been unfair to Hill
Trading him now allows him to learn DETs offense so he can compete with Stanton.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I made a comment about fairness and was old this is a business.
Isn’t this a business.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Sure is
But even in business, veteran employees are given the courtesy of leaving early if a company is planning on cutting costs (firing him) so he can get a head start.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
The Lions had an extra 7th already in 2011. That's why they offered that pick.
They got it when they traded Kevin O’Connell to the Jets. So basically the Lions traded Kevin O’Connell for Shaun Hill in their eyes.. not bad.
by Athletix Man on Mar 14, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank You, Shaun Hill
for everything. Seriously, this guy played his heart out, and even if he didn’t have the physical capabilities, he had the mental toughness, and it produced into a 10-6 record.
Favorite play ever by Shaun Hill: that run against Arizona on monday night football where his helmet getting taken off but he still got 13 yards on 3rd down for the first down.
Good Luck in Detroit Shaun Hill.
Thanks again for everything homie.
Hit like Berry, Score like Jerry.
I'ma miss Hill....
Shaun Hill was one tough son of a b**** ….I’ll always remember him for the no helmet run in the Monday night game in Arizona in 2008….& for the mushtach… & his crazy antics on The Joe Show…I think they should’ve waited till after training camp… to see wut Carr is bringing to the table… hope Alex steps up this yr…. Shaun I’m gonna miss u man!
by NJ_9er_fan on Mar 14, 2010 1:52 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wow.
We sure took the Lions pretty good with this deal!
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
We got what will very likely be a high 7th for someone that we'd have just released in a couple days anyway.
Getting something for nothing – what’s not to like about it?
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
218...
when the comps are put in ..at least according to draftsite.com
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
since it's 2011. We have to see how the Lions do this year first or the Jets.
It has not been said if it’s the lions or jets 7th rounder in 2011, that the Lions have the rights to.
by Athletix Man on Mar 14, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I keep forgetting it's next years pick.
This year their 7th is pick 218 when compensatories for everyone are figured in.
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 15, 2010 4:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I Didn't Expect The 49ers To Get Anything
not because Hill isn’t a good backup QB, solely due to the fact that every team knew we were going to eventually release him. I think it was more about the Lions securing him without any competition. Lets face it, Hill is a real good backup QB and teams like St. Louis, Arizona, Seattle, Chicago, Carolina, Washington, Green Bay, Buffalo, both New York teams, Indianapolis, Houston, Pittsburgh, Oakland and Denver could have used him. That is a huge market for Hill. Also the 49ers may not have wanted Hill to end up with any of the NFC West teams, all of which could use a backup/starter.
Good luck to you Shaun Hill and thank you for giving it your all every Sunday and leaving it all on the field, and for being our most successful QB since Jeff Garcia.
"Iess us expect nothing but greatness from ourselves"
Good
for him juz glad they took care of bussiness and didnt leave hung out too dry more then they did ………..
Kewl
A 7th round pick is really not worthwhile
Former 49ers QB Ken Dorsey was drafted in the 7th round.
"Proving 2nd class ownership is profitable"
by More False Hope on Mar 14, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions
better than nothing
Sometimes a team can get lucky and find a hidden gem.
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Mar 14, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This sounds like a new Drew K or Smileyman topic on 7th round picks who made a mark
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Question is...
who will we pick with that 218th pick.:-)
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
RJF and Curtis Taylor ARE OUR FUTURE!
Both were 7th round picks
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
This pick will only be 18 lower than where Brady was taken at.
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
So I guess, in a way....
SHAUN HILL IS OUR FUTURE!?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Just replace the "IS" with
“Could be the link to” LOL
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 15, 2010 4:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Nice.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 15, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
as long
as the pick isn’t the last pick in the draft, a round 7 choice can provide a relevant player.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 14, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Marques Colston
last pick of the draft.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
correction
He was a 7th round pick, but not the last pick. He was 4th from last.
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Mar 14, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I figured he wasn't last
otherwise the term “Mr. Irrelevant” would no longer apply to the final selection of the NFL draft.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 14, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
quick note
Ryan Succop may have banished that label for good, now that I look at this year’s “Mr. Irrelevant”. Pretty good numbers for a rookie kicker.
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 14, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
>Implying that “pretty good numbers” for a kicker isn’t pretty irrelevant.
I don’t think any kicker is going to be banishing any label anytime soon.
"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan
perhaps
but 25 of 29 FG made is quite impressive (8 of 12 from 40+)
by Andrew Davidson on Mar 14, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Brian Jennings was a 7th rounder
Also some fairly big names like Colston, Housh, Derrick Ward, Donald Driver, Jamal Anderson and Raheem Brock.
Even if the probability of finding a contributing 7th round pick is 1 in 20, I’ll take that 5% over 0% chance of getting return from cutting a player. I’ll take that any day of the week.
Yep every time I watch the Saints and see Colston make a play I go
dang (ok a bit more than dang) and they picked him up in the 7th! Forgot that Housh was too.
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 14, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep
A 7th round pick absolutely does not mean automatic failure. I even recall a 10th round draft back in 1979 named Clark that didn’t do too badly with us.
And a 10th or 12th pick on one of our best lineman
The name slips right no, I’ll look it up again.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
Hey… in the 7th round, maybe we can get another Arnaz Battle! Yeah!!
"Proving 2nd class ownership is profitable"
by More False Hope on Mar 14, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
more false hope?
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
Alex Smith is not a bust, he is a product of poor management and coaching.
A solid special teams coverage guy?
Sure, why not?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Well… getting drafted in the 7th round is better than not being picked. However, it isn’t much better than being undrafted and then being taken later.
"Proving 2nd class ownership is profitable"
by More False Hope on Mar 14, 2010 9:41 PM PDT reply actions
For a team, a 7th round pick is better than relying on signing UDFAs
UDFAs can choose which team they want to sign with.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 14, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus, they aren't paying his salary
I don’t know if the Niners would have had to pay Hill’s salary if they cut him.
They're called RUNS for a reason.
Good point
DET will pick up his salary.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Mar 15, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
They wouldn't had had to pay his salary if they cut him
The only salary a player is guaranteed is the signing bonuses or other guaranteed money. If a player is cut he only gets paid up ’til the date of his release.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Plus, they aren't paying his salary
I don’t know if the Niners would have had to pay Hill’s salary if they cut him.
They're called RUNS for a reason.
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