Golden Nuggets: Information would be nice.

by James Brady on Mar 19, 2010 3:00 AM PDT in 49ers Links

Morning everyone, Ninjames here. So it seems like McCloughan is out, though we aren't any wiser as to what exactly is going on. He could be out, he could be taking a leave of absence, or he could be staying just the same. Nothing is clear right now but I'll be sure to link you to all the relevant links so you can know all that.. all that you're supposed to know, I suppose. Still, it'd be nice to actually know what the [site decorum] is going on with our 49ers, you know? This team is on the rise, and continuity is key, without it what do we have? Without continuity the 49ers are... well... the Oakland Raiders. Anyway, it's getting closer to 3 AM so I'm going to get to the links.

The reports indicate that Scot McCloughan is out as 49ers GM. Take it how you will. (SacBee.com)

I hate this guy, mostly because a portion of his articles are preceded with his name, but either way it is Jed York's challenge to fix the front office, and it's... not looking so good. (MercuryNews.com)

So will Singletary be taking the lead in draft preparation? (PressDemocrat.com)

Guard Chester Pitts' visit is still on schedule. (SacBee.com)

Wish I had more for you right now folks, but that's about it.

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I have faith in Singletary..

So if he is the one making all the calls for this years draft based on who he is and what he knows I’m sure we will come out of this draft with some pretty good players on our hands.

He is defensive minded.. He knows we are in need someone to harden up our O-line.. and he knows that he will get the BPA if someone really good falls to us.

by StevenC on Mar 19, 2010 3:45 AM PDT reply actions

Singletary...

is not a personnel evaluator or a scout. Welcome back to the Mike Nolan era!!! This was a stupid move if the Niners forced McC out.

by 9thevolution on Mar 19, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions

Noaln-era?

Please spare the site with this useless banter. Please provide something fact-based to support this statement, that you keep making.

If I were GM, Ninersnation would call me the draft hustler.
Step 1 - Offer contract to Bushrod and give up my 49th pick.(RT)
Step 2 - move up to #5 Take Berry for BOTH first rounds and acquire a 2nd and 4th
Step 3 - 2nd round - M gilyard, 3rd - J Jerry, 4th AJ Jefferson, 4th Rafael Priest CB TCU, 5th Deji Karim, 6th - Alex Daniels DE Cincy, 7th Al Woods LSU

by rlott#42 on Mar 19, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions

Nolan was given full control of the draft and all player personnel. It resulted in him being more focused on that than his coaching. Is that what you want from Sing when he already has little experience at being a HC? The proof is in Nolan’s defense that was great with the Ravens, terrible with the Niners, and then pretty good with the Broncos despite having little talent. Maybe Sing will be good at these personnel decisions, but I’d rather not have them take the chance.

by 9thevolution on Mar 19, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions

I’d take Sing’s eye for talent and “human evaluation” over his x’s and o’s knowledge any day. For now at least. That doesn’t mean I want him as a GM. Sing’s strength is finding good football players with a ton of heart and work ethic. He is and forever will be a coach first, however I am totally comfortable with Sing having more than his fair share of say on anyone that walks through the front door.

Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!

by Brave Neander on Mar 19, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree...

I think the HC should definitely have a say in who should get drafted and what types of players he wants on his team. However, I don’t think that with little experience in player evaluation (from a talent and potential standpoint) his word should be final if the scouts and personnel people think he’s making a bad decision. I’ll trust the guy who’s been doing it for 13 years over the guy who is one season removed from being a rookie head coach.

by 9thevolution on Mar 19, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions

I would prefer the coach have more final say as to what player fits his needs.

It’s not for every round, but it would make more sense to believe Sing knows more about what we need than anyone in the FO. They can evaluate talent, but can they see what exactly we need, especially when they have never played the game. I would trust Sing more in pointing out needs.

by rlott#42 on Mar 19, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree there....

I don’t think Sing should be the one to choose players specifically, or any HC for that matter. I think you talk with your personnel department and tell them the types of players you want and what you believe are your biggest needs. You tell them the types of players you need to fit your scheme. But in the end, you let the personnel guys decide who best fits that vision or who might potentially flop at the next level.

by 9thevolution on Mar 19, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions

So you give your FO a framework right?

And then the FO tries as well as possible to fit the players chosen based on that framework right? Also the HC and the FO must also communicate and both be flexible to what can happen on each end.

My point is that we all seem to be taking a “Chicken Little” attitude that the fact of McC having to leave due to personal issues denotes a massive fracturing in the whole organization. Many are presenting Sing as a mindless stupid Hitler or Stalin type and he is not. He realizes his strengths and his shortcomings.

The board and the discussions as far as ways to go probably have been discussed and decided upon (within reason) long ago.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 20, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions

Draft comes around how many months before the season?

Nolan knew what he needed but reached at players he thought would work and fumbled. He also was a poor coach, very poor.

by rlott#42 on Mar 19, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions

I think if Nolan was focusing more on his coaching and less on FO business that should’ve never been left to him in the first place, he might have had a chance to improve as a coach. A rookie HC should never be given full control of personnel decisions. And that’s essentially what Sing still is, a rookie HC. He has a long way to go still.

by 9thevolution on Mar 19, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Singletary knows that he has people that provide expertise in other areas.

He asks his coaches for information, he will ask the scouts for input.. He knows that he does not have all the answers and he is intelligent enough to get the answers.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Mar 19, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions

There you go

A very precise and valid point. He’ll utilized the coaches talent to find a consenus that will help the Niners in making the proper and logical choices during the Draft. If Sing and hiscoaches make great picks, everyone will say " What a Guy " ! Lets not take for granted that he doesn’t know what he doing, He may surprise a lot of doubters.I like the Call !

by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 19, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions

The Nolan Era has ended

There is a very good reason and we’ll all know shortly. Personally, I think it shows that Jed is capable of being a very good President. He must of saw something or actually got good advise. Either way, I for one is happy McC is done or will be !!!!

by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 19, 2010 7:44 AM PDT reply actions

Ummm....

in case you forgot, Singletary was Nolan’s hand picked assistant head coach. So no, the Nolan era isn’t over until there are no remnants of that. That includes Sing and any position coaches and coordinators hired while Nolan was HC. I don’t discredit Sing’s ability to coach or Manusky’s ability to run the defense, but they are a part of the Nolan era. McC was a good GM, and he may have missed on few draft picks and not reached for FA’s, but overall he’s improved the team greatly.

by 9thevolution on Mar 19, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions

Just because Singletary was Nolans “hand picked” assistant means nothing towards the Nolan Era. Just look coaching style and the personalities of both men. Polar opposites. Nolan took very little part in constructing the offensive, and built his rep on “hybrid” defensive schemes (which were terrible for our defensive personnel) and for some god awful reason was handed full control of the franchise by John York. (By far his worst move as owner, IMO) Just because there are remnants of Nolans staff does not mean that any of his coaching or personnel habits are still being practiced. The product put on the field last season proves that. And I liked McCloughan…at least enough to say his “grade” as our GM should be shown as “incomplete.” Besides, I agree that this teams talent has come along since Scott was appointed GM. This team is fine…for now. Our draft will go over exactly as planned, and Sing will be a leader of men once again as training camp draws near. No reason to panic…yet.

Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!

by Brave Neander on Mar 19, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions

You should be improving the team with the picks he has had. He selected to good players in Willis and Crabtree

But he made one good choice of a pick and that was Willis.

by rlott#42 on Mar 19, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions

Anyone have any commet on Pacman Jones?

He visited with us and Sing will attend his workout in New Orleans reported by ESPN. Is there a post where this is discussed?

by goatfather on Mar 19, 2010 10:44 AM PDT reply actions

Sing won't attend the workout

I think someone posted on here yesterday that he was going to be attending a public function sponsored by the team on that day. I wouldn’t want Jones on the team anyway. He’s a shadow of the player he used to be and has been out of football for a year.

by 9thevolution on Mar 19, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions

Worth a look and potentially a 1 year league minimum contract.

by rlott#42 on Mar 19, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Worth a look for due dilligence

we have a need at CB and also at return both positions of his. In a way I’d like it if Sing was there to give some pointed questions and to eyeball his answers.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 20, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions