NFL Team Needs and Power Rankings Based On Needs.
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 10:36 AM PDT
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This thread will focus on team needs as it relates to the 49ers and those teams in their division and with whom they will be competing for a playoff spot in 2010. I have decided to use an unusual format for declaring where each teams stands on my power rankings. This is not an exact science and is a little premature as the draft is still a month away.
The format i have decided to use is based on CBS Sports grid of team needs. It will examine glaring holes and obvious strengths of each team and use that rational for declaring the top 6 teams in the NFC (those who will make the playoffs) and where other teams stand, at least in regards to the 49ers, our 2010 opponents and division rivals. The chart CBS uses is on a 0-10 format (0 being no need and 10 being a major weakness). As i stated before this is not an exact science, as it has the 49ers need at QB at 0 and the Colts need at the same position at QB at 3, despite having Peyton Manning. What the chart does it point to a position that is a weakness for a team, and for Indianapolis backup QB is an area of concern, hence the 3 level at that position. See let me get started
FYI the lower the total number of needs the higher the team is on my power rankings.
NFC WEST
Major Needs: Offensive tackle (9) Cornerback (8) and Free Safety (7)
Areas of Concern: Wide Receiver (5) and Strong Safety (5)
According to CBS the 49ers have absolutely no need at QB, TE, K and P. While having minimal need at Inside Linebacker, Defensive End, Defensive Tackle and Center. I think that CBS accurately depicts the 49ers needs.
Overall Need: 54
Major Needs: Defensive End (9) and Outside Linebacker (9) and Inside Linebacker (7)
Areas of Concern: Quarterback (6) Tight End (6) Tackle (6) Cornerback (6) and Wide Receiver (5)
No Needs: Kicker, Running Back and Strong Safety
Overall Needs: 77
Major Needs: Cornerback (10) Tackle (10) Defensive End (9) Free Safety (9) Runningback (9) and Wide Receiver (8
Areas of Concern: Quarterback (6) defensive tackle (6) and Strong Safety (6)
No Needs: Kicker, Punter and Inside Linebacker
Overall Need: 93
Major Needs: Quarterback (10) Wide Receiver (10) Cornerback (8) defensive end (7) Tight End (7)
Areas of Concern: Runningback (6) tackle (6) defensive tackle (6) linebacker (6) strong safety (6)
No Needs: kicker and punter
Overall Needs: 98
NFC Playoff Contenders
Major Needs: Strong Safety (7) Free Safety (7)
Areas of Concern: Cornerback (6) Runningback (6) and Quarterback (5)
No Needs: Kicker and Defensive End
Overall Needs: 54
Major Needs: Cornerback (9) Punter (8) and Tackle (7)
Areas of Concern: Runningback (6) Center (6) Guard (5) and Strong Safety (5)
No Need: Quarterback and Free Safety
Overall Needs: 70
Major Needs: Wide Receiver (9) Tackle 8) Free Safety (8) Guard 8) and Corner back (7)
Areas of Concern: -----
No Need: Quarterback, Tight End, Kicker, Punter and Inside Linebacker
Overall Needs: 63
Major Needs: Defensive Tackle (9) Defensive End (8) Outside Linebacker (8)
Areas of Concern: Tight End (6) Inside Linebacker (5)
No Need: Quarterback, Guard, Kicker and Punter
Overall Needs: 57
Major Needs: Defensive End (8) Guard (8) Center (8)
Areas of Concern: Corner back (5) Wide Receiver (5) Kicker (5) Outside Linebacker (5)
No Need: Quarterback and Punter
Overall Needs: 69
Major Concerns: Kicker (9) Tackle (7)
Areas of Concern: Strong Safety (5) Free Safety (5) and Guard (5)
No Need: Quarterback, Running Back, Tight End, Outside Linebacker and Puntre
Overall Needs: 50
New York Giants: 72
Power Rankings Based On Team Needs
1. Dallas Cowboys 50
2. Minnesota Vikings: 54
3. San Francisco 49ers: 54
4. New Orleans Saints: 57
5. Chicago Bears: 63
6. Atlanta Falcons: 69
7. Philadelphia Eagles: 70
7. Green Bay Packers: 70
9. New York Giants: 72
Does this make any sense to you? Could this be the reason why the 49ers are the trendy pick to be the surprise team of the NFL in 2010?
I completely understand that this is not an exact science, in fact there are many flaws in it. For example, it has the 49ers need a QB at a flat 0, while the Saints have a need a 1 at that position, even with Drew Brees. But they are factoring in the possibility of injury and the idea of depth. Who would you rather have start if your QB goes down? David Carr or Mark Brunnell?? I honestly think the 49ers are too high on that power ranking list and should be somewhere between the Bears and Falcons. Yet by doing this, i made one thing clear. The 49ers are the obvious favorite to win the NFC West and after that anything can happen. I am also interested to see how this chart plays out once the draft and off-season has concluded, believe me it will change.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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I think top 4....
depending on the draft, and technically top 4 because they should win their division. Maybe not top 4 if you factor out playoff positioning, but they should at least be the 4 seed in the playoffs. Improvement in special teams and o-line and they should be fine.
I Agree
If the 49ers have a solid draft they will be in a great position to win the West. The acquisitions of Derek Anderson by Arizona and Charlie Whitehurst by Seattle makes me believe that the 49ers have the best QB situation in the division, imagine that. If either of those QB’s start multiple games for those teams, then they are in trouble. In regards to being top 4; i believe that division strength aside, if the 49ers improve in the draft there is no reason why they cannot be at the level of the Packers, Eagles and Giants while being slightly ahead of the Bears and Falcons.
Keep in mind that New Orleans was ranked somewhere between 13 and 17 depending on what site you looked at, i believe the 49ers would be slightly ahead of that heading into the 2010 season. Also before anyone attacks this post, keep in mind that i said it was flawed and not an exact science.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't agree about the best QB situation in the division. Linehart has more time in his system and appears to be more accurate, I think the jury is still out on who has the best QB situation.
Right now I give the edge to Hasselbeck, because he isn’t injured.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
Top six probably
We know who we are on defense. (adding Berry or Thomas,and Brandon Graham) would bring our defense to near elite status. The problem being, we are still not sure of our identity on offense!
Identity On Offense
Run the ball with Gore and Coffee/Spiller?? 23-28 times and pass the ball 30-35 times. Target Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree 70 percent of the time on offense and utilize the spread offense over 60 percent of the time. This will keep the defense guessing. If we are able to fix the offensive line (Chester Pitts and a draft pick) there is no reason the 49ers cannot be in the top half of the league on offense, if not better. Name teams that have playmakers better than what Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis will do in 2010?
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope we aren't looking to pass that much.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
If
you have the play makers on offense why not? Both Davis and Crabtree should exceed 1,000 yards in 2010, if that is going to be the case you will have to pass more. It all depends on fixing the offensive line, Alex Smith has the ability to win games on his own but our play makers must drop less passes in order for that to happen.
One other thing, i have no idea why the 49ers are not “discussing” trading our 2nd round pick for Gaither!!! This will allow us to spend the 2 1st round picks on defense and make it one of the elite in the leagues.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't fully trust Alex Smith yet.
We’ll see if he can build upon his success last season.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 21, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I Might Be In The Minority On This
but i do have the confidence in Alex Smith, i think if he gets better protection and the receivers drop less passes there is no reason why he cannot have stats like this
62% comp- 4000 yards and a 2/1 TD-INT ratio
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed if you look at the best QBs they all have dominant O-Lines. Times is a QB best friend.
by manraj7 on Mar 21, 2010 12:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not even that
most passing plays are done in 3 seconds or less. What a good line does is keep the throwing lanes open for the QB so he can actually see the field, as well as preventing him from having to scramble.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Look at the sack ratio when Smith and Hill were in the Game
Hill was sacked once per 8.6 attempts
Smith was sacked once per 16.9 attempts
It’s not like the offensive line played twice as good under Alex Smith that it played under Shaun Hill. Smith released the ball quicker and was more decisive, plus he has better scrambling ability and shall i say field awareness.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not disagreeing
Smith had to scramble a lot which led to him throwing the ball away too much. A good offensive line will allow him to stay in the pocket for the 2-3 seconds he needs to scan the field and dump the ball off. A good offensive line will keep his throwing lanes clear.
Our two comments aren’t mutually incompatible.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Actually Smith being in the shotgun allowed him to see the defense better and quicker
When Smith was under center it was about the same as when Hill was.. maybe a slight bit better.
Smith being in the same system for the second year will help and having Solari as the OL Coach could help even more.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
If he has to be in the Shotgun, say hi to David Carr, your new starting QB for the 49ers.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
I sure hope so.
I’m pulling for him.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 23, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
We have playmakers on offense, but we don't have the QB for it. 30-35 throws, I can't see Alex not throwing a pick every game, maybe even two.
Alex Smith has the ability to win games on his own but our play makers must drop less passes in order for that to happen.
When has he proven that?
Alex is horrible at ball placement, plus at his height, he has a lot of balls bated in his face. I want Alex to succeed, but I have to wait and see, he hasn’t given me reason to believe he can lead this team in a pass heavy offense. Brady blew it last year and we all know he isn’t that accurate.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
Brady?
Tom Brady attempted 40+ passed in just less than 1/3 of his games last sason, he also averaged 37 attempts per game in 2009. To clarify i am looking at Smith’s attempts to be close to 30 per game than 35.
Alex Smith was 5-5 in his 10 starts, but played well enough to be 7-3 in those starts, just look at the Seattle and Green Bay games where had a 5/1 TD-INT ratio and threw the ball 78 times combined with just one pic.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
All of Smith’s passes batted down was because the O-Line couldn’t hold back a Pop-Warner pass rush.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
Against Mock Drafts with the Niners taking Joe Haden since 2009.
Eat Shitake!
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 21, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's a two way street there
No decent throwing lanes provided by the O-line and Smith throwing too flat
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
That sounds good to me
but remember what happened last year. We started the season as a “hopefull” smashmouth running team. That didn’t work,so we went to a lot of spread , to cater to Smith’s strength’s. That worked out pretty well . But does that mean we are a spread offense now? We still dont have the O line personell for the dominant running game that Sing want’s . So where does that leave us with game planning. Are we a spread team ,and if so do we even have the right personell to make it work week after week. I’m not even sure we have the right team speed to be an effective spread offense outside of Vernon. We lack a certain quickness from our WR’s to separate from D backs regularly, which is what makes a spread effective. I love Crabtree ,he can separate, but he doesn’t have wheels. Jason Hill has wheels, but apparently not game speed or route running. He must lack something or he would be a starter by now. Brandon Jones is an unknown. Josh Morgan is still inconsistant, but maybe this the year he figures it all out. I hope so! I know I’m a broken record in this reguard.but speed , suddenness, and route running are needed in a spread, even more than a conventional offense
Some of these shortcomings will be addressed in the draft no doubt, especially the O line ,but we still need speed and quickness in our WR corpse to be a priority too. Without a fearsome vertical threat at the #1 ,our running game will be less effective. We also “really” need a good slot man as a reliable outlet for Smith. That takes quickness and the ability to separate easily. We don’t have that player on the roster “yet” !
Im sick and tried of the Spiller talk
We got Gore and a 3rd pick manning the back field. This is NOT a position of need. You sound like Mc Boo Foo-ignoring the true needs of the team because the Oline isn’t a high profile position. That and the DIRE need at safety and corner take precendence over a 3rd down RB with a 1st rd draft pick.
Plus 8 million.
Trade up for the best safety.
If Berry falls to 7....#7, #39, #71 = 2245 pts 49ers #13, #17, #141 = 2235 pts
1. E Berry 2a) M Gilyard, 2b) Calloway 3a) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 3b) J Jerry/M Johnson OG 4. Deji Karim 5. Rafael Priest 6. Alex Daniels 7. Josh Hull
Italia would probably rather have us reach for an O-Lineman in the 1st round because its an area of need. Why spend a 1st round pick on a Trent Williams or Bulaga when we could just as easily get a Saffold, Valdheer, Fox, or Calloway in later rounds? Almost every position other then QB is stacked this year, we can get starter quality OT’s in 2nd-4th round range.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
Against Mock Drafts with the Niners taking Joe Haden since 2009.
Eat Shitake!
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 22, 2010 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Because they're not as good?
Your argument is so circular, why spend a 1st on Spiller when you can get a guy like Best, McCluster, Tate, or Gerhart in the later rounds. What’s that, they aren’t as good you say? Well Calloway is a joke compared to Bulaga and Williams, and RT is much, much more important to this team than another RB.
by Brendan Scolari on Mar 22, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
You can get quality RBs, KRs, and PRs in the 2nd-4th round range too.
It goes both ways.
The idea is to get a great player in the 1st round.
Personally, I’d rather have a great OT than a great RB.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 23, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey
I agree with this.
Nice.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 23, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I can see top 4
We need to get a safety and d-lineman in the 1st and a tackle in the 2nd
49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
by swagger on Mar 21, 2010 12:03 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No addressing the offense in the 1st?
I felt that the 49ers defense did a fine job. They were just on the field so much thanks to bad offense.
They spent a lot of time on the field due to a lack of ability to stop offenses on 3rd down.
You can lay a lot at the offenses’ feet, but you also can’t overlook the FACT that the defense was horrindous on 3rd down.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
Yes they were
49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
by swagger on Mar 21, 2010 2:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
They spent more time on the field because the Offense kept going 3 and out
The defense has needs.. but they are not glaring needs. Safety is a concern this year but Smith may be able to come into his own… It will be interesting to see how they work the safeties this preseason.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
The Offensive Going 3 n out
is no excuse for the defense not getting off the field on 3rd down. I understand distorted PPG and yardage statistics based on time of possession, but i won’t just explain away defensive struggles on 3rd down and place the blame on the offense, that just doesn’t work.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope
No wide recievers worth taking.
We already have a stellar TE.
All the good tackles are gonna be gone by our picks so might as well wait to the 2nd round.
We already have an elite rb with good years left.
49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
by swagger on Mar 21, 2010 2:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I wouldnt mind them taking lupati though.
49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
by swagger on Mar 21, 2010 2:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You Are Right
If we are left with an option of Trent Williams or Anthony Davis, then you move on and go for a tackle in the 2nd round. Mike Iupati may indeed be gone at 13, there is a lot of talk about Denver going after him with the 11th pick
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, D-Lineman?
You can never have too many good pass rushers, but the 4ers seem to be in a logjam at D-Line.
I agree with you otherwise though. Safety is definitely an area of concern, and I think tackle can be picked up after the 1st (we want an RT, not LT)
Yeah we need help at safety. I think we beed to replace sopagoa
49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
by swagger on Mar 21, 2010 2:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Soap
is a perfect end in the 3-4 defense. If you are looking for a pass rushing threat on the end at a 3-4 then you are looking at something completely different than i am. The role of an end in the 3-4 is to clog holes and open up lanes for the OLB’s. It could be that Haralson and Lawson didn’t do what they were supposed to do.
Either way we do have Ray McDonald as a situational 3-4 DE, but could use another pass rushing specialist. But in terms of how Soap played, i think he did exactly what was expected of him in the 3-4 alignment
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
This
Haralson and Lawson aren’t getting the pressure they need to. Haralson gets more than Lawson but neither do enough. McDonald comes in during passing situations and does decent enough.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I didn't see Haralson doing more than Lawson last year, and I also expect some pressure from a 3-4 DE.
Not as quick as an OLB, but not totally non-existant after 3 or 4 seconds and that’s who Soap is, another horrible resigning, him and Robinson take the cake.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
I seem to remember Haralson being more effective
but it must’ve just been one or two games.
Harlason—45 tackles, 5 sacks,
Lawson—68 tackles, 6.5 sacks, 3 FF
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Lawson is a much better all around LB than Haralson. That said, Lawson may not be in the right type of defense, i think he would fit better in the prototypical 4-3 D
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, someone else sees it, yeeeessssss!!
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
I think we need one more pass rushing OLB in the draft at some point. Lawson, Briggs, Haralson, and……. ??? If we rotate 4, they will wear down the opposing tackles. Plus each one brings something different to the table.
Too many freaks, not enough circuses.
Very few teams
Rotate 4 OLB’s though. 3 is usually enough to keep everyone fresh.
by Brendan Scolari on Mar 22, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
We need better than him
How mandy times did we killed by screen passes?
49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
by swagger on Mar 21, 2010 2:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's on the Ends, OLB's and safeties to make a play, IMO.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
Lott, Lets Look At Successfull 3-4 defenses for a second
Marcus Spears and Igor Olshansky combined for 4 sacks in 2009, but the outside linebackers combined for 17 sacks.
In Pittsburgh, Nick Eason and Brett Keisel combined for 3 sacks while the OLB’s combined for 23.5 sacks.
So why are you saying it is up to the ends to make the plays in the 3-4 defense? Just simply put, that is 100 incorrect.
Justin Smith and Soap combined for combined for 7 sacks; this the total number of the ends for Pittsburgh and Dallas combined. The problem is that Lawson and Harralson only combined for only 11.5 sacks. This whole equation changed a little bit when Ahmad Brooks and his 6 sacks came into the game.
The point is that successful 3-4 defenses are not predicated on the ends creating a pass rush, rather filling up the holes for the LB’s to rush the QB. I saw Soap and Smith do that a lot in 2009.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
DE's in the 3-4 essential duties are as you stated. I am not arguing that.
What I am saying is Smith will get to the QB after so much time, Soap never gets there and I think we need an upgrade at LDE, I don’t think Soap is that good in run support either.
I have made the statement plenty of times that we need a PR out of the Nickel at LE, more than anything else when concerning the DL.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
I think there was a statistical analysis posted by one of our stat guru's which indicated Soap was a liability in both areas.
If I were GM, I'd be looking at making the defense a top 5 defense.
In the nickel
Haralson, Lawson (or Brooks), Smith, and McDonald are on the line. Which one of them are you hoping to replace?
by Brendan Scolari on Mar 21, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like upgrades over both Haralson and Lawson
Brooks can be one of ’em. Smith and Mcdonald are fine.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
All that play LE. We need a totally new player at LE.
If Berry falls to 7....#7, #39, #71 = 2245 pts 49ers #13, #17, #141 = 2235 pts
1. E Berry 2a) M Gilyard, 2b) Calloway 3a) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 3b) J Jerry/M Johnson OG 4. Deji Karim 5. Rafael Priest 6. Alex Daniels 7. Josh Hull
Don't Get Me Wrong
we could use an upgrade over Soap. I just don’t want another one dimensional player to take over at that position, Ray McDonald is one dimensional, Kentwan Balmer pretty much has no dimensions.
When it comes to the best 3-4 ends in the draft i believe that
Jason Pierre-Paul and 260 may be the best fit scouting report shows that he plays with a non stop motor and is good against the run. Derek Morgan at 270 may be the best fit for the 49ers 3-4 D, at 270 pounds his scouting report also shows an ability against both the pass and the run. I believe that the other options such as Carlos Dunlap and Everson Griffin, despite their size, would break down against the run.
The most important aspect of an end in a 3-4 is to be great against the run and clog off blockers for OLB’s, but that doesn’t mean that the end position should be completely void of a pass rush.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I am talking Nickel DE for third and long pressure, not 3-4 DE, soap can be serviceable for another season.
As a team we were good against the run.
If Berry falls to 7....#7, #39, #71 = 2245 pts 49ers #13, #17, #141 = 2235 pts
1. E Berry 2a) M Gilyard, 2b) Calloway 3a) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 3b) J Jerry/M Johnson OG 4. Deji Karim 5. Rafael Priest 6. Alex Daniels 7. Josh Hull
Pierre-Paul and Morgan are absolutely not ends in a 3-4
In fact many people don’t believe they fit in a 3-4 at all, but if they do they will be OLB’s.
by Brendan Scolari on Mar 22, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
According to CBS the 49ers have absolutely no need at QB
This statement alone makes me pretty skeptical of anything that CBS believes.
by Brendan Scolari on Mar 21, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions
No (site decorum)
If Berry falls to 7....#7, #39, #71 = 2245 pts 49ers #13, #17, #141 = 2235 pts
1. E Berry 2a) M Gilyard, 2b) Calloway 3a) Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 3b) J Jerry/M Johnson OG 4. Deji Karim 5. Rafael Priest 6. Alex Daniels 7. Josh Hull
I Think
it has more to do with the fact that the 49ers have a starter, reliable backup and the proverbial project as the #3, hence there is no room for another QB. CBS has the 49ers need for QB at a big flat zero, while they have the Colts need at QB sitting at 3. If i am interpreting what they are saying correctly, it is that the 49ers QB situation isn’t better, it is just that they don’t have a need for a QB and Indianapolis does.
49ers: Alex Smith David Carr Nate Davis
Colts: Peyton Manning Curtis Painter
I think it is more that some teams are in need of a back up QB, while other teams are set there, now you can agree whether or not these are the 3 QB’s you want on the roster, but it does appear that this position is set for the 49ers right now.
The Epic Draft trade 13th and 4th round pick to the Chargers for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks.
1. RB- CJ Spiller 1. DE- Brandon Graham 2.OT- Charles Brown 2. FS- Nate Allen
3. WR- Damaryious Thomas 3. CB- Perrish Cox 5. LB- Reggie Carter
6. G- Brandon Carter 6. WR- Taylor Price 7. D'Anthony Smith
(What the heck name Singletary GM!!!)
by nocal81(Vincent) on Mar 21, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
There is need at QB
We got 2 #1’s and what are they worth ? Not really a whole lot. But the fact is we are stuck with them for one year. This will be Smiths year to Make it or Bust. Carr, by many is considered a Bust already. Both should be considered backups to most teams. I wouldn’t be surprise if they do draft a QB in the 4/5/6 round to quell their concerns.
But first things first, Fix the line and CB positions before anything else.Ootherwise, 8-8 could be a reality again !
by LASVEGASNINER on Mar 22, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't be surprised if they do draft a QB in the 4/5/6 round to quell their concerns???
Son,
What do you think Nate Davis is? You know the QB they drafted in the 5th rd last year??
I'm shocked the 49ers were graded at 8 at CB
The roster seems a bit thin at the position (it was this time last year too) but most teams would not complain about starting Clements and Spencer.
IMO, safety is the much bigger need. The pass defense got abused when Roman and Lewis were caught in coverage or on play action when the extra safety failed to support our LB’s on the deeper routes.
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