Golden Nuggets: Am I the only one who was impressed with Goldson?

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 3:00 AM PST in 49ers Links

Good morning everyone, James here checking in with your Nuggets for the day. Thanks to Fooch for covering for me yesterday, just had to get some stuff done and it was definitely a necessity. He's informed me that he will be busy soon and won't be able to cover for awhile, so you guys get all Ninjames all the time for a couple weeks straight on the Nuggets... lucky you! Free agency draws closer, as does the draft. I'll have articles concerning free agents, articles concerning who the 49ers will pick, I think I have a Barrows or Maiocco mock draft, and generally I think I have enough articles to tide you over, or at least I'm trying. Someone asked me yesterday if it was OK that they post a link: yes it most definitely is, I can't get them all. Remember folks, I put these posts together just before they are posted at 3:00 AM my time--it's pretty easy for me to miss something. So post 'em up if you got 'em, and don't hesitate to tell me I suck for missing it. Enjoy your links for today, everybody.

Barrows posted his most recent (maybe his first?) mock draft. I seriously agree with almost nothing in this draft, which is odd because I believe Barrows might be my favorite of the main media guys for 49ers coverage. I just don't see some of these picks at all. (SacBee.com)

A look at CB Joe Haden and some concerns. I never liked the pick regardless, people kept having the 49ers taking him in early mock drafts. (SFGate.com)

The safeties are looking pretty shaky in the NFC West.. Rams FS OJ Atogwe could be getting a low-ball tender and Cardinals FS Antrel Rolle could be looking at becoming the highest paid safety in the league... by another team. (NinersNation.com)

Maiocco takes yet another look at the 49ers scheduled free agents. (PressDemocrat.com)

Some of the 49ers ticket prices went up, some of them went down. I get a complete kick out of people getting upset about a rise in price. It's been like that since the team started, does nobody understand that? Sure for the most part it might stay the same, but if the team gets better, you can expect the price to rise. (MercuryNews.com)

A look at one player I wish there was a place for--but that the 49ers might now have room for next season: FB Brit Miller. (49ers.com)

So Spiller would definitely be an exception to McCloughan's 'big player' rule. I still like him a lot. (PressDemocrat.com)

Three combine standouts that will be first round picks. (PressDemocrat.com)

Here's a good article from NFL.com about the 49ers offseason outlook: a review, a preview, etc. (NFL.com)

A look at the Singletary Effect, and what he can do for certain players and certain issues in the offseason. (NinersCentral.com)

Samuel Lam takes a look at the free agent cornerbacks. (Examiner.com)

And then he looks at the free agent safeties. (Examiner.com)

So what does everyone think of FB Moran Norris? Should be be back next season? (Scout.com)

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Goldson

you most certainly are not the only one impressed with mr Goldson. i think besides Patrick Willis and Justin Smith Goldson was one of our better defenders last season. He has the nasty side to take on the run and deliver the wood. He has the speed to stay deep on long passes and the ball hawk skills to go up and get it. Goldson is quickly becoming one of my favorite 49ers!

i hope we can get one of the 3 stud safeties in the draft (Berry,Mays, and the guy from Texas)
to go along side Goldson and the Pass Rusher from Michigan would be awesome in Brandon Graham

by roscoe s on Mar 4, 2010 7:55 AM PST reply actions

You want nasty

Get him and Reshad Jones on the field together (see yesterday’s 100 in 100.) I almost feel he has some upside to him compared to at least Berry and Mays. Earl Thomas is who you were thinking of. He’s actually my favorite of the three. Brandon Graham would be a great pickup for anyone, but for us it’s unfortunately not a likelihood as it’s one of the areas that we’re reasonably deep at.

by Mangoman on Mar 4, 2010 8:09 AM PST up reply actions

I agree with the thoughts on goldson aside from him having speed.

glad we have him, I just hope his agent doesn’t lead him to belive he is one of the leagues elite after one year starting

Mock, Yeah, ing, Yeah, Berry Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
CLE #7- 1500pts, #39 510 pts, #103 92pts--49ers 2 1st 2200pts
1a. traded for Berry, 1b. traded for Berry(CLE) 1c. #7 Eric Berry, 2a(Cle) Valdheer, 2b Mike Johnson OG, 3. Jacoby Ford WR, 4a(Cle) D McCourty 4b. Stephen Williams, 5. Trindion Holliday, 6. Zac Robinson 7. FB

by rlott#42 on Mar 4, 2010 12:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

Three things

Barrows’ mock-Yeah there are some questionable things about it. No matter how good he may be, I don’t think it’s the wisest thing to be taking Bradford given his recent health issues. Money isn’t the issue. The issue is the Rams should try to get someone who has the best chance of giving them immediate improvement and Suh will be worth everything they invest in him. Some of the other early picks are a bit questionable too. Somehow KC’s & Buffalo’s pick stand out the most for me. I have nothing wrong with our picks, but I’d be a little happier with getting Spiller with #13 so it gives us a little versatility with what we can do with 17.

Free agents-Totally agree with Roman, but I don’t think we re-sign Willhelm unless we can get him much cheaper. Maybe a two-year deal for the same as he made last season. He’s a very serviceable backup and ST guy.

The FB stories-Why can’t we make Norris compete with Miller? Sure it was pre-season, but Miller did have two TD’s in one game. I don’t think it takes much to get someone who can provide more dimension to the offense than Norris.

by Mangoman on Mar 4, 2010 8:26 AM PST reply actions

I think Barrows was going off some reports that say the rams are going to draft Bradford anyways. I agree with you though. The Rams have so many positions of need, that they should just start drafting the best players available, which is Suh.

by aBulldog on Mar 4, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions

I don't agree.

Not that it’s the issue here, but the Rams has passed on a QB three times when they needed on and it has done nothing goof for them. They should just pick a QB

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions

Barrows' mock..

I’ve always.. like… the past couple years now, Barrows and Maiocco have had just awful mock drafts. They’re not very good at it.

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions

They only have time to cover one team and their mock drafts typically show it.

by bignerd on Mar 4, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions

I put in a ton of time covering the Niners...

…and I know that some of those picks are just awful

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions

Ya, I think you like the 49ers. Not sure if the beat writers do or is it just their job.

by bignerd on Mar 4, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions

Meh, I'm not saying much

It’s just not a very good mock, and not on the 49ers side of things, just altogether bad.

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions

McCloughan

“What I learned early from (former Raiders and Packers executive) Ron Wolf is if you draft an exception then next thing you know, you have a team of exceptions. You can’t go against your philosophy.”

God, if that doesn’t sound like Al Davis, I don’t know what does.

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew Kerr on Mar 4, 2010 8:51 AM PST reply actions

Yeah, it makes me scared.

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions

Moran Norris

I think he needs to go.

I believe Miller is capable and we can draft a guy like Tonga or Conner late in the 6th or 7th. Norris just didn’t do what he was brought in to do. At least not the same way he did on ’06

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew Kerr on Mar 4, 2010 9:05 AM PST reply actions

I like Tonga

Seems like a FB who can do something in the passing game. I mean, he doesn’t have to be Rathman catching the ball, but at least keep them honest.

by microwave donut on Mar 4, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions

The only problem with FB’s catching out of the backfield in today’s NFL is that you don’t see Pro set split backs anymore. It was much easier to get the ball to guys like Rathman out of that formation opposed to the now commonly ran I-formations. Swing passes sledom happen like that anymore and that was Rathman’s bread and butter.

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew Kerr on Mar 4, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions

I sure hope we don’t draft a FB.

by bignerd on Mar 4, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions

Why not?

Norris isn’t cutting it. I really like Miller but I think he needs some pushing. We picked up Caulcrick on a future contract but that’s it. Bringing another guy in to challenge for a starting job can’t hurt

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Mar 4, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions

I’m surprised I even have to argue this with the two people who spent the entire season screaming to spread the offense out and put the FB on sidelines. The FB will likely spend much more time on sidelines this season hence I think targeting one is a wasted pick.

by bignerd on Mar 4, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions

I want a new FB

Norris isn’t cutting it. WE can pick one up in round 6 or 7 who will provide more of an impact at that position than drafting a WR in the 6th or 7th round

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Mar 4, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions

Nice to see you coming around Drew

Tonga is a great pass catching FB

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions

Will CJ Spiller really be available at pick #17? No one else needs a RB? After San Diego pretty much let go of there whole running game, I would believe that they are going to draft a RB, even if they do keep Sproles. They may try to move up if Spiller falls as far as #13, and it might be smart of the 49ers to trade down with them, and possibly net a 2nd or 3rd round pick in the process, because I’m not sold on them really needing Spiller, when they can find a guy later in the draft to take kick/punt returns…. PLUS, I like Ryan Mathews better at RB. He reminds me of Tomlinson, which is why I think San Diego might pick him up. Trent Williams will be available at #17, and possibly beyond that. Teams look for LT in the 1st round, and we’re supposed to settle for the guy who’s only good enough for the right side? Granted, he is the guy I would like to have, so if they draft him high, I wouldn’t be pissed off.

I’d rather trade #13, pick a Safety or Corner at #17 (which is almost as big a problem as right tackle), and draft Trent Williams in the later half of the 1st round. Then focus on DE, running back depth and Guard depth to round out the first 3 rounds (assuming we net an extra 2nd or 3rd). Rounds 4-7, try to find a fast return man, tight end, and Outside Linebacker.

Man, only if I were the team owner, and this was an EA Sports John Madden football league, where I can manipulate the game, or simply push reset when I screw up.

by aBulldog on Mar 4, 2010 9:45 AM PST reply actions

People, please stop with Trent Williams, he is horrible. If we end up with Williams, you will see just how bad he is first hand. There is no amount of coaching that can help that kid. I’d rather bring Kwame Harris back before drafting Trent Williams.

Why would we trade down and get Mathews? That makes zero sense. The whole purpose behind drafting Spiller is to fil major holes with one pick (big time value for a 1st rounder). Can Mathews do that? Nope. And more importantly, we already have Glen Coffee who is a similar runner to Mathews. Before we spent a pick on Mathews, if we were going that route, I’d rather just offer Pierre Thomas a deal and spend a 2nd Round tender on him.

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew Kerr on Mar 4, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions

I really really really really can't stress enough how badly I dont want the 49ers to take Williams

It would be the worst move in the draft to go “ooo, ooo, ooo, he can play RT, let’s spend a 1st on him”. Because he stinks at RT just as bad as he does LT and just as bad as he does at Guard.

A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.

by Drew Kerr on Mar 4, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions

To me it doesn't seem like you have a whole lot to actually say...

…about Williams other than that he is ‘horrible’ which probably can’t be said for any first rounder this year, to be honest.

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions

I think it’s a giant red flag that Williams has already be ruled out as being a LT in the NFL. If he has that many deficiencies that he cannot play LT than how do I buy the notion that he fits nicely at RT? Factor in how good this draft is suppose to be, why would a team reach for a pure RT in the 1st round?

by bignerd on Mar 4, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions

Oh no, I don't like Williams, but I'm just not...

…big on draft talk where the only semblance of debate is “he’s a horrible player”, when there’s not many of that opinion.

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions

I hope we end up with valdheer in the 2nd, i really hope he falls there

by rlott#42 on Mar 4, 2010 12:20 PM PST via mobile reply actions

So, something kind of odd, guys

But am I the only one thinking Myron Rolle will be a best in the NFL? He’ll go late because of the whole missing a year, etc… I think he wants to play bad, and he could be a really good strong safety to groom under Michael Lewis. I just don’t think Reggie Smith is that guy. Myron Rolle in the fourth, I say.

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions

I'm more against taking Spiller than Williams

I simply don’t like the idea of taking second string talent in the first round whose best asset is fourth round talent. Not that I’m for taking Williams in the first if he’s gonna make Kwame Harris look good.

Sounds like a putrid draft class this year if that’s the best we could think of getting. Isn’t there anybody out there than can make the team better? So far, is looks like a solid no. Oh well. Here’s hoping we can do well in FA.

by Ovalshine on Mar 4, 2010 1:12 PM PST reply actions

THAT can make

I wrote “than”. I hate when I get ahead of myself when typing.

by Ovalshine on Mar 4, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions

...Whaaaat?

Spiller would fill so many needs. Return man, instantly improving THE LEAGUES WORST, he can be a change of pace back in a league where dual 1000 yard rushers is something that isn’t too far from a common commodity these days, a solid backup to an injury prone Gore, a young RB so the team can field trades for Gore in the coming seasons, and taking him before the Seahawks can. He’s a great talent and if you can’t see that, then uh…. I dunno. Best draft since ’83, I say. The talent in all rounds are superb.

He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.

by James Brady on Mar 4, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions

Dual 1000's

It’s happened in the NFL before it can happen again.

by Mangoman on Mar 4, 2010 1:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions

I’ve seen a lot of drafts with the Niners taking both Spiller and Williams…but never in the order Barrows had them. I find it highly doubtful that Spiller lasts until #17.

"I want people to be afraid of how much they love me." ~Michael Scott

by ZeroIndulgence on Mar 4, 2010 1:58 PM PST reply actions