2010 NFL Free Agency Thread #2
by David Fucillo on Mar 4, 2010 10:48 PM PST
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PrintWe're up over 400 comments in the first free agency thread, so I thought I'd roll out another thread to take us through the evening. While the signings have been limited thus far, the rumors are flying fast and furious.
Julius Peppers is rumored to be close to heading to Chicago. Chad Clifton is visiting Washington. Adam Schefter made a good point on his Twitter feed: If the Redskins sign Clifton, they might not need an offensive tackle in the first round of the draft. Some mocks have had them grabbing Okung, so maybe that knocks an OT down to the 49ers? Who knows.
We'll be back again at 7am with a Friday thread. Right now it's mostly just talk with the action really starting to happen at some point early tomorrow. Enjoy your discussion here and we'll see you in the morning.
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Ahaha.. nice.
He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.
I saw in the last thread someone said we signed neil odonnell… Really?
by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 4, 2010 10:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Phewf I’m not ready to hop off the shaun hill backup #2 bandwagon just yet
by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 4, 2010 10:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
come on scotty mac
jared gaither please!
DREAM DRAFT:
1a. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
1b. CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
2. Best CB available
3. Freddie Barnes, WR, Bowling Green
by MichaelClutchtree on Mar 4, 2010 10:57 PM PST reply actions
ninjames
How’s the Crown going down, great to see Canada’s finest export being enjoyed down in america
by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 4, 2010 10:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
It goes down well, I love me some special reserve.
The finest of Canadian whiskeys to be sure. When I need a shot, it’s crown. When I need a drink, it’s crown and coke. Providing you’re in Canada, let the whole of your country know I appreciate their liquor. From an American.
He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.
Adam_Schefter
Filed to ESPN: Lions wasted no time getting on the board. Free-agent WR Nate Burleson reached agreement with Detroit on a five-year deal.
JasonLaCanfora
CB Dunta Robinson poised to complete a deal with Atlanta tonight/this morning.
49ers and TOOL live, my personal Heaven!!!
wow
Not really sure what to think of that at this point.
by David Fucillo on Mar 4, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Probably means they will go after Marshall with one of their firsts.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
No, no no no no no.
No.
He came back in the same suit that he was buried in...Similar to the one his grandfather was married in.
What do you mean? The Falcons/Lions will trade for Brandon Marshall with a 1st rounder? That doesn’t make sense.
by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 4, 2010 11:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Marshall has a 1st round tender placed on him which means a team would have to give up a 1st to retain him. They have 2 first round picks so they could go that route.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
I should learn more about these tenders! Haha
by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 4, 2010 11:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
So they would spend a 1st on Marshall and another on a QB most likely. That could get scary down the road.
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 4, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
They have to address their line somewhere along the way. Otherwise it wont matter what Qb they draft and he wont be able to get it to Marshall and Housch..or whoever they have. They could go there, but it could end up biting them if the line is not addressed too. Let’s just cross our fingers it doesn’t go down like that.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Nate Burleson supposed to be close to a deal with the Lions
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
from twitter
StullySTL
All quiet at Rams Park…expect some moves to be pursued tomorrow. Still believe Lito Sheppard and Danny Clark could reunite with Spags
49ers and TOOL live, my personal Heaven!!!
sheppard
I’m curious to see where he ends up. He’s getting up there in age, but he still brings something to the table.
by David Fucillo on Mar 4, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Read a rumor...
earlier that Warner would come out of retirement to play with the Rams for his one last season.
Oops, forget it. I just went back to check it out, and it came out of Bleacher Report.
Well, we're waiting....
If the SeaChikens spend a 1st on Marshall that can mean that the possibilty of Spiller falling to us only increases!
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
I think he’s gonna be there for us, it’s just a matter of “if” our FO will pull the trigger.
A computer once beat me at chess, but it was no match for me at kick boxing.
Best Player Available.
McC. style isn’t drafting for need is it? Though Spiller would have to be on the Niners board as the highest remaining player for that to happen.
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 4, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
great sig
I remember that line too. I recall the individual had some crazy comments during a game.
by David Fucillo on Mar 4, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
Never heard for him since.
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 4, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
Regarding tenders;
The team can give up any pick that matches the tender?
So hypothetically, a team could trade their first rounder for a lower valued first round pick + another pick and give up the newly acquired 1st rounder on the tender?
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Mar 4, 2010 11:39 PM PST reply actions
I assume so. But you have to trade YOUR #1 pick. So if you trade it away i don’t know if that is tradeable for a tender.
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 4, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
Makes sense.
I guess that there is no free lunch.
Thanks for the clarification.
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Mar 4, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Now that you think of the senario you gave, that might be a fatal flaw with the system. If a team wanted a Marshall, they could swap #1’s with a team like the Saints (#32 pick) and recieve at least a 3rd maybe 2nd. Though the Broncos might notice this and they would have to match the offer or they lose Marshall for a #32 pick.
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 4, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly,
However if a team wanted him badly enough they could simply offer him more than Denver is capable of.
Are you saying then that it doesn’t have to be the pick if the inquiring team?
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Mar 4, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
The Broncos tendered him for a 1st rounder. Any team can offer Marshall a contract, the Broncos have 7 days to match or exceed the teams offer. If they don’t make an offer or Marshall doesn’t accept the Broncos offer the team gets Marshall but has to surrender a 1st round pick.
What i don’t know is if it is ANY 1st rounder or specifically THE TEAMS 1st rounder. If any 1st rounder is acceptable then the previous post of trading down said 1st rounder stands. If it is THE TEAMS 1st then i assume you can’t trade it because another team now owns your original 1st rounder.
"Alex Smith doesn't inspire the Offensive Line to play well." - Random Troll on Post-Game Thread
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 5, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
I keep hearing in all these scenarios (Marshall or anyone else) that the deal can be consummated with a trade. Say Marshall’s agent finds a team willing to pay his price but refuses to compensate the Broncos a 1st rounder. The team and Marshall can approach the Broncos to barter a deal before any signing. Instead of giving up the 1st rounder they can agree to give up a 2nd rounder and possibly a 3rd round pick next season. The Broncos might be happy enough with the 2nd round pick and just accept it.
From what I gather a lot of tenders have been decided to entice other teams into trades and not necessarily keep the player. A 2nd round pick might the be acceptable price to the Broncos but put the 1st tender on him just in case a team was willing to deal them more, no penalty for trying.
You're absolutely right
We’re a good example. We’ve franchised Franklin which would normally mean a team giving up two first rounders but the word around town is that the 49ers would be ok with trading him for a 2nd round pick.
The tender tags just let other teams know where to start the bargaining at, but a trade will end up lower
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
I think it's the team's original first-rounder
unless they’ve traded it and hold another, in that case it’s the one they hold.
Yeah that's the way it works
technically the #17 pick is Carolina’s (that’s why the got to flip the coin and we didn’t).
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
So ...
we’d have to give them our #13 huh? Hmm..think they’d be willing to do that for it and a 4th from them?
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 5, 2010 5:30 AM PST up reply actions
Sorry
I was talking about Jared Gaither and the Ravens, just to clarify
Balanced draft with offensive emphasis. Pick 13 CJ Spiller 17 to Chargers 28 DI/DET Jared Odrick 48 WR Demaryius Thomas 60 S Reshad Jones
79 Jared Valdheer 110 OG Marshall Newhouse 141 CB Akwasi Owusu Ansah 172 OLB O'Brien Schoffield 208 FB Manase Tonga (He and Britt Miller can swap off and one play blocking TE and one FB)
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Mar 5, 2010 5:51 AM PST up reply actions
I would love for the 49ers to try to go for any of these guys..
DE Marcus Spears: has a 2nd round tender on him — 2nd round isn’t that bad
CB Ellis Hobbs: has a 1st round tender on him — He is a great corner and isn’t that old
RB Jason Snelling: has a 2nd round tender on him — give us some more depth, unless
the FO already has plans to get Spiller ;)
WR Brad Smith: has a 2nd round tender on him — He would be the perfect fit to be our kick returner.
OG Richie Incognito: does not have a tender on him, we should get him before the Rams take him back from the Bills lol
Well I have a few more guys I like but that’s good enough
Me neither
Gaither and Bushrod I’d give up a draft pick for, Bethea too. Boldin in a heart beat.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
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