Golden Nuggets: In limbo
by Ninjames on Mar 9, 2010 3:00 AM PST
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Morning folks. So free agency continues and the 49ers are still being quiet. If there's a second wave, I hope it goes down soon so I can feel like the Niners are improved in areas that will help them win games. I suppose Carr is an improvement, but only on the talent side of things as he won't be playing...providing everything goes as it should. Be it through injury or poor play, I don't think anyone want's to have to go through whatever it is they'd have to go through to see what David Carr has to offer the team. I'm of the opinion he has nothing, but then again I'm a jerk so who knows? Beyond that... got something about Willis and a school kid, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it isn't anything like Roethlisberger's re-emergence into the news. Something or other about a running back from the Raiders I don't care about, and that should round out your links. Should be plenty today, enjoy.
Shaun Hill is in limbo with the team right now. (PressDemocrat.com)
He is staying put for now, though. I am a bit worried about what's going on in the locker room. Could you imagine it? The destruction of a team based on a backup quarterback. Bizarre. (SacBee.com)
A bit more about QB David Carr and how he's changed over the years. Still not going to be jumping for joy over him. (SFGate.com)
An article about Patrick Willis surprising an elementary school student as part of the NFL's take a player to school program. I suppose it's bad that when I first read that headline all that came into my head was number fifty-two blindsiding an elementary school child for a six yard loss, isn't it? I suppose it's worse that the next thing that popped into my head was the Brad Smith hit but without Brad Smith... don't even let me continue. (49ers.com)
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WR Arnaz Battle is signing a deal with the Steelers. I liked the guy, but he was just too frustrating this past season and I don't think he has much more to offer. (SacBee.com)
The bit about Raiders RB Justin Fargas visiting the 49ers isn't confirmed yet, but the two sides have apparently spoken over the phone. (SacBee.com)
Here's something from Kawakami about David Carr, but I stopped reading after he likened it to the Kurt Warner courtship last season. (MercuryNews.com)
I don't agree with it, but one writer's opinion is that the 49ers should be after FS Darren Sharper. (NinersCentral.com)
A bit more about how the quarterback situation is affected with the signing of Carr. (Examiner.com)
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Interesting topics!
Going to rattle off some opinions here. Starting with David Carr signing. I understand what the 49ers are doing.. but I don’t at the same time. If thats not confusing enough lets take a look at the FO. They want to build a team through the draft but they then (in my opinion) waste money on someone like David Carr who hasn’t done really anything to show that he can even help the team at all. Statistically he is not any better then Alex Smith. Give Alex Smith the same amount of time and he could put up the same numbers as Carr (QB Rating 75.2, 65 TD and 70 INT in 92 Games) Now Smith’s career stats are not as impressive as Carr ( QB Rating 69.2, 37 TD, 42 INT) but he is coming off a career year where lets face it (even the Smith haters) he didn’t play terrible, in fact he played well enough for us to make a run for the playoffs. Our lack of playmakers on the offensive side of the ball is what hurt us as well as the o-line ( again my opinion). The only thing benificial is that they say it will push Smith for the starting job. Hill was a fine backup for Smith, he may not have the same skills that Carr brings to the table but he can win football games. One can argue that he even gives us a better chance to win than Carr and Smith combined just based on the simple fact that he has had a little success. Next topic.. Justin Fargus? Really? I mean I don’t really think I want to say anything else about that. On the last note, I like the idea of Sharper, he’s old but I think he immeadiately helps the secondary out, he provides knowledge for our younger DB’s especially Goldson, and takes pressure off drafting a DB in the first round (Mays or Berry) we can focus on an offensive playmaker like Spiller, and offensive lineman that can immeadiately help us improve. Lets not forget that though our defense struggled at times in the secondary we where pretty dang good, and Sharper can get to the ball and change a game very fast, he will be a solution until we can get the Offense fixed.
Agree...
that they should go after Sharper. It allows them to move Goldson to SS where he’d be more effective than any of our other SS’s, and then they could draft another FS somewhere around 3-4 round to groom for a few years behind Sharper. The guy made an immediate impact in NO and could likely do the same for us.
As for the Carr signing, I like it if they actually do something to address the QB position legitimately. Hill is not the answer, and while he may have locker room support, he won’t win us a SB. I say cut both him and Davis and make a push late in the draft for Skelton to groom over a few years. Hell, I’d be ok with Carr starting for two years if we have a QB waiting to take over who’s capable.
Fu… Is site decorum off with Fooch gone? Haha.
Seriously, eff Darren Sharper, he will want a multi-year deal. Unless there is a miracle and Atogwe falls to SF, I think they’ll have to wait and draft Earl Thomas.
by Rod Blogojevich on Mar 9, 2010 6:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
What about Mays
You don’t think they will take Mays instead? If they where going to take anyone I think he has the most upside.
Mays will be a bit of a project IMO
He’s a freak of physicality, but maybe he just needs a little fine tuning in his fundamentals. Hopefully it won’t take much to do that. I’d actually be willing to take Thomas before him and Berry before Thomas, but Berry falling to us doesn’t look too good right now.
I agree
I understand the project aspect, that’s probably why you would want to go with a veteran like Sharper, you know to provide a bit of mentor-ship. Then again if you get Sharper you are probably not going to use your earlier picks on a player in the same position.
Sharper or Thomas...
Thomas is going to be a reach in my opinion and not worth one of our first rounders. I also don’t believe he’ll be that good and we can find someone with equal or possibly better skills in a later round. Nate Allen from LSU in the 2nd or the FS out of Georgia in the 3rd or maybe 4th.
Sharper has already come out and blatantly said he has three years left in him. I think those could be 3 GOOD years. That’ll give us a Pro Bowl caliber player for the time being and someone who can tutor both Goldson and the other young guys. With no one making a push for him, I think he realizes his value may be a little lower than he expected. At least offer the guy a contract since he’s a UFA.
I would say take Sharper
Because he’s the better value for the money. He had what could almost be considered a career year last season. And then draft a guy like Reshad Jones because if you watch what that guy can do, there’s not too many that wouldn’t say he’s got the potential to be a monster in the NFL!
My sentiments exactly!
Just looked at Mayock’s ratings by position and that idiot actually has Thomas rated higher than Berry.
Cut Davis?
I understand your points with Carr, he does have a lot better tools than Hill does. I just would have rather seen them get a QB in the drafts later rounds like Canfield or someone like that. Either way I’m afraid Hill didn’t stand much of a chance.
Late round QB...
That’s exactly what Davis is and he has dyslexia so he can’t digest a playbook like others can. I think we need a veteran backup so we don’t have two rookies if Smith goes down. And since there’s no way we’re going to have four total QB’s, Davis has got to make way for a better prospect. Like I said, Skelton is a much better option than Davis.
If digesting the playbook is an issue
It may not hurt to take a chance on putting Davis on waivers and seeing if we can’t get him on the practice squad. What’s the chance that another team will claim him?
I doubt it
Can’t see another team really looking at him and saying he’s a better option than what they can get this year as a late round pick or UDFA. I think there’s better options out there than Davis and that’s why they let him go. If the Niners pick up another QB in the draft or FA, then they won’t use a PS spot for another QB.
Hill is all but gone already and if you hear QB on one of the Niners’ draft picks, expect Davis to not last through training camp. Unless that QB is expected to be Cribbs-esque, he’s taking Davis’ spot.
i dont know why,
but i like the carr signing. i feel a little (note LITTLE) more secure knowing we have carr to backup smith if smith fails.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Alex Smith is garbage...
I have nothing against him
I hope that Smith will be the QB we drafted him as, but we will have to wait an see I suppose. If Smith doesn’t perform, then I will cheer for Carr just like I would for Hill and Davis, I guess I’m just more or less disappointed that his signing is the only move we have made so far. I can see your point in feeling a bit more secure. You got to like some of the physical tools he brings compared to Hill.
Barrows is stealing my quotes
Battle seemed to be at his best when the 49ers’ offenses were their worst.
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