First Two Picks - Seahawks
by twolfe2 on Mar 9, 2010 10:49 AM PST
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PrintI was just reading this article over at Yahoo Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AkqlxxF0DqneHfIORSoGg79DubYF?slug=ap-seahawks-brownstrade&prov=ap&type=lgns) and I was wondering its impact of the Seahawks first pick. Hasselbeck is the starter in Seattle, but when he has gone down with injuries the past two years Wallace was a serviceable backup. Now with Wallace out of the picture, I believe there 3rd QB is Mike Teel, who could be an NFL QB if given the time to develope. (I am a Rutgers fan.)
Does this mean that the Seahawks have to draft a QB with there number 6 pick? Drew K predicts in his most recent mock draft that the Hawks are going to take Clausen. But the Seahawks have shown interesting in Tebow. Could they go best player available at 6 and take Tebow with 16? What does everyone think? Are the Seahawks going to target a QB with one of their first two picks or should they hope to get one in the second round?
Either way, I am just glad the other NFC West teams are messing up free agency just as bad at the 49ers are.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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I think they absolutely have to target a quarterback in this draft. Hasselbeck’s health is an annual question mark, and they’ve neglected bringing in a young option for years because of the security that Seneca Wallace affords them. I think trading Wallace is a very cut and dry message from Pete Carrol and Co. that they are taking a top-rated quarterback in this draft no questions asked.
I think they probably have Clausen at the very top of their draft board, and that their interest in Tebow has to do with the possibility that Clausen isn’t available. If Clausen slips away from them with that first round pick, things could get very interesting with the draft (and the NFC West) very fast.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
I agree
from what i’ve heard and read on Tebow is that the Seahawks and Bills have asked Tebow to workout for them. So if the Bills don’t take Tebow in the second round Seattle will, I don’t think they take a QB in the first round if Clausen or Bradford are gone
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
They could conceivably draft Clausen and Tebow assuming that Tebow falls to their second round pick. I dont think I have ever seen a team draft QB’s in back to back rounds so it’s more than likely they’ll get one in free agency and one in the draft. I am thinking they will go with Delhomme, Bulger, or Anderson…possibly even a guy on a much lower pay scale like McCown in FA and Clausen at 6.
So it would look like this potentially on their depth chart:
1- Hasselbeck (to start the season)
2- Clausen
3- Free agent signing.
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
I don't understand the logic of taking a FA veteran and keeping Hasselbeck and then draft Clausen at the 6th overall pick.
They will take Berry at 6, if they feel Tebow is who they want to draft.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
FA signing
cheap, good backup in case Hasselbeck gets hurt early and your rookie isn’t ready go go. When your rookie is ready go go then the FA signing will be a good backup for you.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I would suspect that if Hasselbeck gets injured/sucks and the rookie isn’t ready yet that their season can’t be saved with a free agent vetern QB. Might as well start your rokkie and let him take some reps in a real game.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
by Hoopers Judge on Mar 10, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
What’s so hard to understand about it? Simple concept. Simple logic… happens all the time.
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
I would replace No.3 on your list with Teel
He doesn’t really have a connection with Carroll, but I don’t see any guy out there that Carroll might want.
Who were you thinking about?
Anderson?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
I don't get why so many people are so high on Sanchez
The Jets have the NFL’s best defense and one of the best running attacks, yet they spent the second half of the season trying to create a game plan that would limit what Sanchez has to do so he wouldn’t blow the game for them. Although Curry was kind of a bust for how high he was taken so they might have been better off with Sanchez.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Sanchez has done a few things right
I don’t really think he’s a good QB now but he has all the tools (tangible and intangible) he needs to be a great NFL QB.
Examples include:
Good accuracy
Strong enough arm
Great footwork for such an inexperienced QB
Of course, his decision making needs work, but maybe experience can help him with that?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think that there are very few rookie QBs
who display good decision making skills. It’s a vastly different game than in college.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Yep.
Which is why it should improve with experience.
He’s got everything else he needs to be successful.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
He came into an ideal situation last year
He played on a team with a great defense and great running game. I’m not saying that he won’t turn into a great QB, I just don’t get why everyone is so convinced that he will. I think he’s just as likely to be an average QB as he is to become a great one. I didn’t see anything last year that makes me believe he’s a sure thing.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
It depends on how you look at it
You see him as a guy that struggled on a great team.
I saw a guy that played extremely well in some situations and ridiculously poor in others.
Inconsistency is the key, he has shown he can be great at times…now he just has to try to be great more often than not.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 11, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Lets see
He won the starting job outright in camp.
He managed to hold onto the starting job for the entire season.
He played well in the playoffs.
Not a lot of rookie QBs can manage to pull that feat off. Alex Smith couldn’t even beat out Tim Rattay his rookie season.
I wasn’t big on Sanchez initially when the draft talk started last season but I became quickly convinced he would become a franchise QB. I thought he had an impressive rookie campaign.
Eh
The thing that most impresses me about Sanchez is his footwork.
He can move in the pocket VERY effectively.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, and (to bring it back on topic) this is why I think the 'Hawks will target Clausen
Clausen played in the kind of pro-style offense that Sanchez did, taking drops, making multiple reads, handing off from under center, running play-action, etc. This will make him a much more pro-ready player than Bradford, and even with the ‘personality’ concerns he’s the guy they have to target.
Jason Hill is turning the corner!
"personality" concerns
I am so sick of people saying his personality is a concern.
He made one ridiculous comment when he was in HIGH SCHOOL.
Phillip Rivers is much more arrogant than Clausen, that doesn’t stop him from leading the Chargers.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 10, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Bringing in a Qb would mean that Mike Teal was a bad pick. Although Carrol and his staff have no game film of him, they should consider him.
What is funny is if they draft tebow they will have two project QB’s backing up an unhealthy vet, so, I would be happy if they went either way.
If he falls to 7, we'd be better off trading up.
1a E Berry, 2a Robinson (FSU CB), 2b J Valdheer, 3a. Mike Johnson, 3b DeMaryius Thomas, 4 Owusu-Ansah, 6 Brandon Banks, 7 Jamar Chaney
TWO FIRSTS USED
USC vs Rutgers
I just looked at previous USC games and they never played Rutgers, so Carrol wouldn’t have any first hand knowledge on Teel but I am sure that he saw him play a little via ESPN. But Teel was a late round draft pick from a previous regime, so I am sure he is expendable.
Bringing in a Qb would mean that Mike Teal was a bad pick.
Why would Pete Carroll and Co. even care a little bit about some other GMs sixth round pick? Teel wasn’t a part of the plans for the people who drafted him, so picking a quarterback makes absolutely no change to the perception of that pick.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 9, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Ah, beat me to it
And you phrased it better too.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
He was still a project and he is stil there.
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
No need to cut him now
I assume they’ll let him prove his worth in camp and if they don’t feel he’s worth keeping around, they’ll cut him.
He doesn’t get the veteran courtesy of being released so he can find a job.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
He was a late round pick by the former regime
Pete Carroll doesn’t care about saying that Teel was the wrong or right pick.
He’s drafting his guys now.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
Pete Carrol knows the value of a top tier QB.
Hes going to take Bradford or Clausen depending on whos there.
If anything, Its kind of a given now that Wallace is gone.
I say he takes Tebow, if he knew the value of a top tier QB, he wouldn't waste his time interviewing Tebow, right?
Equation= 1,2,2,3,3 is a lot better than 1,1,2,3 in a deep draft, especially when your 1 nets you E berry.
With the 6th overall pick in the NFL Draft the Seattle Seahawks pick
Tim Tebow, Quarterback, University of Florida
Go 49ers
Hehe
If anything it would be with the #14 pick
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Yeah
I’d like to hear his input.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
It seems ridiculous now but wait until Bradford and Clausen are off the board after 4 picks with several teams still needing a QB.
Josh Freeman was a projected 3rd round pick and Tampa jumped him at #17. Even worse the next few teams would have picked Freeman.
Why would they spend the 14th pick on Tebow when they could wait and get him at 40?
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
Or 6th for that matter
I almost pee’d my pants from laughing so hard when I read that above.
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
Lay down some newspaper, Drew
We’d like them to spend a 1st round pick on Tebow so they don’t draft a talented player instead.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
Like them to all you want…. I’d like to win the lottery too but what are the chances of that happening?
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
You have to have hope
We’re all allowed to dream.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 10, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Whatever round it happens in, I’d be thrilled to see the Seahawks end up with Tebow. That would make me very happy.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Both Buffalo and Seattle have private workouts scheduled with Tebow
why would you schedule a private workout with a guy that you’re thinking of drafting in the 2nd?
The only reason to schedule a private workout with a player is if you’re considering picking him in the 1st.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Because you can
You think that is going to be the only guy that works out for them? Doubtful
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.
Well, for the sake of playing Devil’s advocate, I’d say the potential press coverage doesn’t hurt them. Pete Carroll is a media darling, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was just drumming up a story to make the Seahawks more relevant come draft day. Of course, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were seriously considering Tebow either, though it does seem like a stretch to imagine that anybody would want to draft him in the first round (at least, right now… his Pro Day could conceivably change everything).
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Mar 10, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions
Tebow is a big wildcard in this draft, a team has nothing to lose, and a lot to gain by showing interest in him.
There is no way Jacksonville can justify taking him with their first round pick, but there is a lot of speculation that they need him bad to help sell tickets. If Seattle doesn’t take a QB in the first and he’s sitting there at #40, it might be possible to work a trade for his draft rights. Jacksonville doesn’t have a 2nd round pick this year, so I can only pray we can do what we (and you) did last year and trade that pick for a 1st next year. Then we might have a real shot at getting Locker next year, which is the QB all of us in Seattle want (he’d be our Tebow, only good).
by Mind of no mind on Mar 11, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
Dream come true for me.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Mar 9, 2010 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
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