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Decent trade to bring in someone proven who can return punts and kicks. The question is was it really wise to trade a fifth rounder for one of the biggest first round busts in NFL history?

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Jason Hill has barely played for the 49ers and he only has one less touchdown than Ginn does receiving and he’s appeared more than Hill has.

by stevencresnick on Apr 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because Hill is better.
And will likely beat out Ginn and Jones for the WR3 spot.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 17, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's my thought too

Ginn might make it to the field a couple of plays a game as WR, but the regular #3 guy will be Hill.

Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010

by smileyman on Apr 17, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly,

If Hill can stay healthy, he should start opposite Crabtree and that Morgan should be the #3. But at any rate, Jones should be the #4 and Ginn the #5.

I still find it funny, though, that a troubled NFL WR has the same value as a return specialist (a 5th rounder).

Bandwagoners are the prostitutes of fandom.

by SSC24 on Apr 17, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

In trouble?

How is this team in trouble if Ginn is used as the 3rd/4th WR in certain sets?

Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....

by youALREADYknow on Apr 17, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

It might be a stretch,

but i think Ginn is going to be a better receiver than DHB. But thats not saying much, considering DHB had twice as many drops as catches…..

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Apr 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Ginn isn’t even close to the biggest 1st round bust in history. In fact the team already knows what it is getting in Ginn. A return guy who could potentially catch a deep pass or two each game, that’s his game. In contrast to Reggie Williams and Mike Williams working out in Seattle (two legitimate 1st round busts) no one has any idea what they will or can do week to week.

by bignerd on Apr 17, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Thats just dumb...

This guy is only 25 years old and brings dynamic return skills to the team. We like to run reverses and Ginn will be the go to guy on those plays. Who on our team can burn a guy deep?? Ginn is our deep threat. You can teach better hands… you cant teach speed. He is a great pick up and with a new start IMO could turn into a pretty dam good receiver. I’m not saying amazing but 56 rec 790yards like he did in 2008, I’ll take that alllll day.

by GMARCH on Apr 17, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Completely disagree

He’s primarily a return man, but he’ll get a legit shot to be a 3 or 4 receiver. And I think he is already ahead of Zeigler on the depth chart (as much as I like Z).

by David Fucillo on Apr 17, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Think he is a good threat

U can’t teach speed and that’s wat he possesses. Return guy he is but I think we can work him in there time to time. He can develop his hands and route running to become a good receiver. He will never draw a double team so he will have his oppurtunities for big plays.

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by Desi on Apr 17, 2010 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny thing is when people throw out the word bust.

he was not projected as a 9th overall pick and if not for a bad pick, he wouldn’t be considered a bust. A Bust is someone taken where they were suppose to and not panning out. It’s not Ginn’s fault he was drafted there, the same should be said about Alex Smith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTLNIzGiLY

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by rlott#42 on Apr 17, 2010 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

That's a good point

DHB is in a similar circumstance. He probably should’ve been a 2nd rounder.

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by smileyman on Apr 17, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

or a 5th rounder.....

just saying..

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Apr 17, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

or a 5th rounder....

just saying

It's just a plant, it grows in the earth, and if you happen to set it on fire there are some effects...

by iStoner on Apr 17, 2010 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Ginn 2 kick return touchdowns

Wow, this is what I like to see from a returner. Uses agility and speed to get by 3 guys on the first return. Also jukes to miss 2 tacklers on the second return.

Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpI1wElYoCs&feature=related

by fortyniners on Apr 17, 2010 11:37 PM PDT reply actions  

This is a completely untrue statement

Miami has been a really bad team the last few years. Ginn should have never been picked that high anyways, not his fault. he has world class speed and will be able to spread the field and allow Crabs and Morgan and Vernon to get open with one on one coverage. He also doesn’t drop everything that is thrown his way. How many guys run under a 4.3 40 and you use a 5th round pick on? I think that this is a bunch of Spiller lovers that hate this cause it takes Spiller off the board!

by ericalancanty on Apr 18, 2010 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

A 5th rounder is basically nothing

The success rate of 5th rounders is basically the same as 6th or 7th rounders. It’s mostly just a flier pick. It was a smart move to get a guy like Ginn who can contribute for such a small price.

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 19, 2010 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Ginn is the Tazer!

He can run go routes and open things up for Davis and Crabs. He can run an end-around like how rice did, or fake an end-around and Smith can hit a screen or go deep. Bubble screens and slants (balls that are easy to catch) and use his speed to create oportunities to get yards. He can run the wildcat (maybe?) There are many things that he can do that will help this team get an edge on other teams.

by ericalancanty on Apr 20, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

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