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2010 NFL Draft: Revisiting our 49ers Community Big Board

Over the last few weeks we put together a community big board for the 49ers based in large part specifically on the 49ers needs, although I'm sure some personal excitement about players crept in. Now that day 1 of the draft is out of the way, I thought it'd be fun to look back at the 49ers picks and look ahead to the best players available, at least as far as our board is concerned. After the jump, I've posted the big board with when each player was selected.

Anthony Davis was 10th on our big board. When he was selected, Bryan Bulaga (5th) and Mike Iupati (8th), were the only players still ahead of him. Iupati was 8th, and Bryan Bulaga was the only guy still available ahead of him at that point. Given the 49ers selection of Davis, we could certainly have considered Bulaga off our board. Given that, you could say we did ok in setting up the board, at least for the first round.

As we look ahead to the upcoming picks, the top 5 players remaining on our board are:

15. Taylor Mays, S, USC
18. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
19. Charles Brown, OT, USC
20. Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
21. Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
26. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
28. Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame

Since the 49ers grabbed two OL in the first round, I've marked off Campbell and Brown, and added the next two available players. For those wondering, the next available guy after this group is safety Nate Allen, a guy I know a lot of you would love to see the 49ers draft in this upcoming round.

I know the team has secondary concerns, but to be perfectly honest, I remain wildly intrigued by Terrence Cody, the man they've nicknamed Mt. Cody. The 49ers have Aubrayo Franklin at nose tackle, but given that he was given the franchise tag, he remains a year-to-year guy. The team could bring in Cody to develop behind Franklin this year, and maybe even get rotated in on a fairly regular basis. One of the primary concerns with Cody was his weight, but he showed he had the discipline to lose it when necessary.

I'd be a bit surprised, though, if the team ended up with Cody. The 49ers are picking 17th in the second round (due to ties at 8-8, pick rotates each round between the teams) and there are plenty of teams that could use Cody. That doesn't even include teams that might be willing to deal up. The 49ers have mentioned potentially dealing up, but who really knows if they mean it. Whatever the case, I'm not holding my breath for Mt. Cody.

Given all that, who would you most like to see the team grab in round 2? Or maybe you'd prefer a trade down?

Star-divide

Niners Nation Big Board

1. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee - Kansas City Chiefs - #5
2. Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State - Seattle Seahawks - #6
3. Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska - Detroit Lions - #2
4. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson - Buffalo Bills - #9
5. Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa - Green Bay Packers - #23
6. Joe Haden, CB, Florida - Cleveland Browns - #7

7. Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma - Tampa Bay Buccaneers - #3
8. Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho - San Francisco 49ers - #17
9. Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma - Washington Redskins - #4
10. Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers - San Francisco 49ers - #11
11. Earl Thomas, S, Texas - Seattle Seahawks - #14
12. Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma - St. Louis Rams - #1
13. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama - Oakland Raiders - #8
14. Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State - New York Jets - #29
15. Taylor Mays, S, USC
16. Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State - Dallas Cowboys - #24
17. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan - Philadelphia Eagles - #13
18. Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
19. Charles Brown, OT, USC
20. Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
21. Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
22. Jahvid Best, RB, California - Detroit Lions - #30
23. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida - New York Giants - #15
24. Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech - Tennessee Titans - #16
25. Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee - Arizona Cardinals - #26
26. Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
27. Devin McCourty, CB, Rutgers - New England Patriots - #27
28. Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
29. Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida - Pittsburgh Steelers - #18
30. Ryan Mathews, RB, Fresno State - San Diego Chargers - #12
31. Nate Allen, S, South Florida
32. Roger Saffold, OT, Indiana
33. Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida St. - New Orleans - #32
34. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
35. Vladimir Ducasse, OG, Massachusetts
36. Jared Odrick, OT, Penn St. - Miami Dolphins - #27
37. Carlos Dunlap, DE/OLB, Florida St.
38. Dexter McCluster, RB, Mississippi
39. Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU - Indianapolis Colts - #31
40. Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri - Atlanta Falcons - #19
41. Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
42. Everson Griffen, DE, USC
43. Mardy Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
44. Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
45. Brian Price, DT, UCLA
46. Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois
47. Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech - Denver Broncos - #22
48. Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama - Houston Texans - #20
49. Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
50. Chad Jones, S, LSU
51. Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
52. Koa Misi, DE/OLB, Utah
53. Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
54. Tyson Alualu, DT, California - Jacksonville Jaguars - #10
55. Chris Cook, CB, Virginia
56. John Jerry, OG, Mississippi
57. Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma - Cincinnati Bengals - #21
58. Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
59. Daryl Washington, OLB, TCU
60. Joe McKnight, RB, USC
61. Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama
62. Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
63. Mike Johnson, OG, Alabama
64. Damian Williams, WR, USC
65. Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas
66. Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
67. Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson
68. Tim Tebow, QB, Florida - Denver Broncos - #25
69. Navarro Bowman, OLB, Penn State
70. Sean Lee, ILB, Penn State
71. Reshad Jones, S, Georgia
72. Ricky Sapp, DE, Clemson
73. Ciron Black, OT, LSU
74. Dominique Frank, CB, Oklahoma
75. Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU
76. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana (PA)
77. Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
78. Kyle Calloway, OT, Iowa
79. Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina
80. Corey Wooton, DE, Northwestern
81. Mitch Petrus, OG, Arkansas
82. Dan LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan
83. Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina
84. Lamarr Houston, DT, Texas
85. Tony Pike, QB, Cincinnati
86. T.J. Ward, S, Oregon
87. Rob Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
88. Ben Tate, RB, Auburn
89. Greg Hardy, DE, Mississippi
90. Amari Spievey, CB, Iowa
91. Matt Tennant, G, Boston College
92. Taylor Price, WR, Ohio
93. Thaddeus Gibson, LB, Ohio State
94. Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
95. Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
96. Alex Carrington, DE, Arkansas State
97. Torrell Troup, DT, Central Michigan
98. Jamar Chaney, LB, Mississippi State
99. Marshall Newhouse, G, TCU
100. Jeremy Williams, WR, Tulane

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Whether you liked the Day 1 selections or not,

I’ve gotta say I loved getting to put a line through all of the OTs and OGs on the Niners Nation big board—fully 20 of the 100 prospects!

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Apr 23, 2010 6:21 AM PDT reply actions  

am I crazy for thinknig we should snag Colt?

in the 2nd round? Taking a qb in round 2 seems like little pressure for the team financially

by cuse7284 on Apr 23, 2010 6:24 AM PDT reply actions  

methinks neither Clausen nor McCoy will be on the board at #49

of course I’m also hoping the Niners don’t trade up.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Apr 23, 2010 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not a great idea for our offensive system.

McCoy projects best to a west coast system. Besides, we need secondary help in a bad way, so we should be looking at S and CB in rounds 2 and 3.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crazy

There is a lot of talent available and it makes no sense to invest a 2nd round pick in a player that won’t contribute for another 3 years.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seemed like who looked good to us, looked good to other teams too.

I want whoever falls to 49 between Dexter McCluster, Nate Allen and Mt Cody (in that order). There’s no substitute in later rounds for what McCluster could bring but the draft is deep in DBs and NT could be put off until next year (us not knowing how well the Franklin contract negotiations are going).

by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 23, 2010 7:16 AM PDT reply actions  

No substitute?

Deji Karim….. 6th round or later maybe. McCluster isn’t necessarily a good pick for us now that we lost a 4th and 5th rounder.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't see him falling

There’s quite a few teams that need a NT with his ability. The Bills, Broncos and Redskins need a guy to step in right away. The Chargers, Jets, 49ers and Browns could use a guy as insurance. He’s too talented to fall out of the 2nd, imo.

As for his weight, they’ll write a clause into the contract that says he has to maintain a certain maximum weight.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

who plays for Sing that hasn’t kept their crap straight? If he passes the Sing test, he’ll be fine. Then again we don’t honestly know what Sing thinks of him

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ben Tate

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I expect Taylor Mays

in the second round. That would be the logical Niners choice.

But with all that beef on the O line now I keep dreaming of Toby Gerhart blowing up safeties in the fourth quarter of games the Niners lead by three touchdowns. Maybe he’ll still be around in the third round.

by Bob In Beaverton on Apr 23, 2010 7:34 AM PDT reply actions  

God I hope so

"Bill Bidwell owns the Cardinals 363 days a year. The 49ers own them the other two"

by Tazer2340 on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, that would be sick if they got Toby in the 3rd. With the picks yesterday, and knowing that Singletary wants a run first team, you’ll need 2 or 3 capable RB’s to handle the workload.

by aBulldog on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ben Tate

helluva steal in these mid rounds

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you Tre9er 4 looking out 4 me never mind 9th tre gave me that name

i like this dude alot got 2 see him in 4 games this yr he’s a studd.

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

he catches the ball OK too

had 40 catches I think in 2009? Blocker, special teams. Great value, hard runner. Don’t know if we “need” him but he will make someone happy.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

local love

we don’t have a short yardage back per se but I dont think you add one when you already have 3 backs unless M.Rob is gone, which is interesting now that I type it…maybe Tate can replace M.Rob since he plays ST’s and is a capable receiver, likes to block, etc?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm now your talking lol is true do i have a crush on Auburn RBs yes look at

there history bo,cadillac, o’l boy down in miami lol i don’t know where my memories gone ( but i did just finish blazing one lol ) but anyway that would be a nice spot.I’m not huge on M. robinson and if you read my comments yesterday you could see that i wasn’t, but if we can pull something like that off that would be a up-grade but it won’t happen .

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

will Gerhart play ST's?

like coverage units, blocking? If so, I could stand to get an upgrade over M.Rob

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think MRob makes the team either way

I’d imagine the team would rather have a UDFA who can contribute more than him. MRob is great on ST, but he offers almost no value to the offense. If after four years he gets beat out by a rookie for #2 on the depth chart, it’s time to go.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was injured last year

Jimmy Raye wants to use him as a hybrid FB.

Don’t forget that M. Rob owned Patrick Willis in the nutcracker drills.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

A 2nd rd pick 4 a Special teamer if thats all that Toby will be doing i would

rather keep M Robinson no matter how much i don’t like him. And if he’s goinng 2 play FB i still wouldn’t pick him in the 2nd rd we got coffee and he hasn’t ran behind a solid O-Line so why would i REACH 4 toby that would be plain STUPID if the niners did that .Just like these sportscaster who said we might grab clausen does ANYBODY think with logic anymore ,we should always take into-count what we did in last year draft b4 we just think were doubling up in positions on are team.

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cause Coffee sucks

And was a complete waste of a 3rd round pick. He was barely above average running behind the Alabama line. Time for him to go and Toby to smash if we stay put at 49 and he comes to us.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea wow you got all that information in 1yr and your so sold

on toby ‘’ i tell you what ’’ you text toby the only way he’s touching SANFRANCISCO is ifhe’s blocking 4 GORE thats what i can say and ‘’ did you have your coffee today ’’ lo, TOBY TOBY wheres your TOBY pom poms ,lets all cheer 4 lord toby .

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yea right please he played in a much better and tougher diviion than that cup-cake division( pac-10)

so i know yourso HIGH on toby but your not running over everybody in the NFL so if anything Toby is more a work-out warrior its not his fault ( B Tate ) he went 2 the combine and out lift other RBs and safeties.Tate has sjkills all toby is a john riggins version who runs with power but thats all hes got.!!!!

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude I watched the SEC every Sunday

I lived on the boarder of Georgia and Alabama. 40 minutes from Auburn. Tate has alot of physical tools but there is nothing in his running style the least bit special.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you were listening 2 me and '' Treys '' conversation ( its obvious you didn't ) i asked him whats

his name and actually said i like him but i don’t think we will go after him ,and tre said maybe if we got rid of robinson maybe if he’s around but we both knew the niners wouldn’t go after him .You drunk after Toby you jumping in conversations that don’t concern you .The niners want draft tate and there not drafting toby no matter how much you scream how GREAT he is .

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you partially retarded?

Or an ESL? Cause its almost impossible to follow what you’re writing

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Every Saturday

to correct my freudian slip

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The idea of Mays makes me sick

If the Niners can snag a good CB I don’t see Mays offering much of an upgrade over a Goldson/Clements safety tadem.

I think I’m looking for Gerhart or McCluster in round 2. To me the Niners are moving to a pure run-first, ball control offense. Then I’d look for a CB in round 3.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clements wont play safety

I’d just about stake my manhood on it.

Mays is a huge upgrade over Lewis, at least from an upside standpoint. At 49, he’s more than worthy of the pick. I wouldn’t have touched him in the 1st round though.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

In ESPN's redone 2nd round mock they have the 49ers taking Mays

If the 49ers did end up with Mays, they’d have the hardest hitting Safty tandem in football.

Don't trust this guy. He lies.

by urnext on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Won't play safety?

You’re telling me if the Niners tell him he’s cut or he’s moving to safety he’ll object? I’d like to see that play out as I’m sure he’d be able to sign somewhere else but not at his current contract value.

Niners have way bigger needs than upgrading SS.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please tell me these needs that are bigger than S and CB?

Since we’ve solidified the OL, the biggest needs are in the secondary. Sing all but laid it out in his press conference that today was going to be defense. They aren’t drafting BPA regardless of what they say, they’re drafting for need. Right now secondary is where we need players.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mays isn't much of a secondary player

I’m all for drafting a FS, which Mays in not, or a CB. Again, the Niners don’t need to upgrade the SS position.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lewis suffers next concussion

doctors and the NFL impose 4-game rest. Lewis considers retirement (as Ulbrich did) and ultimately does, playing 0 games in 2010.

Who plays?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

THIS

everyone keeps saying we don’t need a safety, but lewis isn’t getting any younger.

guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy

by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who is saying that the Niners don't need a safety

I am saying that the Niners don’t need a strong safey.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Difference?

Hey Method, what’s the difference in FS and SS? Is it just size? If so, how much is different?

by sundaysfinest on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Range, ball skills, tackling

Your FS should have superior ball skills and range to SS. A strong SS should be a better tackler as they typically support the run before a FS would.

Mays has poor ball skills (check out his INT numbers) although he’s fast I don’t think he plays a good “center field” which hurts his range.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

INT numbers dont tell it

he was asked to play physical and hit, not make INT’s.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes

no, he said it. his style of play said it. I think he’s coachable. He has huge upside. I wouldn’t have touched him with a 10 foot pole in the 1st round…but at 49? Heck yes.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He said it, nice

It’s called an excuse.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

his play said it too

any idiot knows what a “typical” safety is supposed to do. I have to believe Mays was only doing what he was told.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

His play suggests he’s nothing more than a SS who lack the ball skills to play FS.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

time will tell

he has massive upside and athletic ability. If the kid shows up and works hard I think there’s no doubt he becomes great.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Time will tell

As it did with Roy Williams.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

never trust electronic times

scouts dont

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Although

Al Davis loves him some good electronic times, he’s kinky like that.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yah he did

You need to watch the simulcast. He ran faster than everybody but Jacoby Ford

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was an unofficial time of 4.24

It was later changed to 4.43. Get your facts straight kid.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still an amazing time

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Method - learn something

Watch the simulcast. Mays ran faster than everybody but Jacoby Ford. Every scout said the clock was wrong on Mays. He ran between a 4.28 and a 4.32

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

4.4 at 230 pounds.

Nothing short of amazing.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Al Davis would agree

The kid can run.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it's not just track speed

He’s really fast on the field as well.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

True that

I may hate $C, but it was impressive how he beat Best to the corner for a TFL

by Mdizzle138 on Apr 23, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best that ran a

4.35? Mays outran him? Shocking considering when they simulcast them together Mays ran a faster 40 also

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

whoa whoa

I’m saying that Mays IS a fast [site decorum]. Come on think about it, Best was considered the fastest RB in the nation. I’m trying to support YOUR statement

by Mdizzle138 on Apr 23, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mays

would be a SS people….

by crumpedup15 on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

And technically that's what we need

We can get a FS if it’s there because Goldson can move to SS easily.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where's my sig?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTLNIzGiLY

"We're going to get the players we have targeted," Baalke said. "I promise you that."

by rlott#42 on Apr 23, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

On what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTLNIzGiLY

"We're going to get the players we have targeted," Baalke said. "I promise you that."

by rlott#42 on Apr 23, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice to see you again

I’ll be working on it.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you will

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTLNIzGiLY

"We're going to get the players we have targeted," Baalke said. "I promise you that."

by rlott#42 on Apr 23, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

i meant to say SS

guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy

by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

the only difference is the SS is asked to come up in run support more often

but either way, Goldson is solid in run support but also has good ball skills and is fast. He could play either SS or FS. Lewis however cannot and nobody else on the team has shown that they can step in…so drafting either a FS or SS would be fine.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather take a FS and move Goldson over

Unless we can get a SS with good coverage skills, that would be my suggestion. However, since it’s the 2nd round, I wouldn’t complain if they went with Mays as long as they stay where they are to get him. Mays seems to have great upside and who knows, maybe his coverage skills can improve.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

and if you compare his upside to Lewis

…..it seems like an upgrade to me

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely...

I’d prefer Allen or Burnett, but if they stay put at #49 and prefer Mays over either of them, I won’t complain about it. If they trade away picks to move up and get Mays, I’ll be a little unhappy. And that’s just to put it nicely.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

true

I hope one of those three guys is around at 49. Otherwise it’s probably Jones or Chancellor…which seems like a reach in the 2nd. Take a DL and wait for the 3rd.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

If there's a run on safety...

then a quality corner might be there that’s worth the pick. If not, as much as I don’t want to say it, I think you take Gilyard. We could use him as a receiver and his PR skills would be a huge bonus. I’d then take R. Jones in the 3rd and maybe get Thurmond in the 6th.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

what round is Ansah going to go in now?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering that the CB's are coming off the board pretty quick...

I’d say there’s a chance he goes late 2nd or early 3rd. It all depends on who values him. Since all the top CB’s are gone, the early teams in 2nd could start reaching for guys they like. Or everyone could sit and wait til 3rd so it’s unknown. I think if he’s there though in the 3rd, I wouldn’t be shocked if the Rams took him since they need someone to cover Fitz, Crabtree and whoever the Seachickens decide to start.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing

a run on DL/DE/LB’s and then the second tier OL’s (Saffold, Ducasse, etc.) as well as the QB’s who didn’t go last night will be most of the 2nd round. And sprinkle in a Mays and Allen pick here or there.

Still, come late 2nd I think another run on DB’s will happen like the McCourty/Wilson run last night. I hate picking in the middle of the round…

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah middle of the round sucks...

you gotta be at the top or bottom to either get a quality pick, or not reach for the guys who aren’t good enough to crack the top 10 but not quite bad enough to slide another round.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

In my scenario Lewis is a back-up

Goldson slides to SS and Clements slides to FS. Or the Niners actually draft a FS and Goldson still slides to SS. Or the Niners draft a CB and Smith would SS if Lewis went down. This isn’t complicated.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would say

Allen, Morgan Burnett or Chris Cook.

Mays would probably help the team but I ultimately hope for the Niners to bring in a true FS and move Goldson to SS before they bring in Mays to play SS.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why

Our coach is a guy who likes his dominant D.
Why wouldn’t we want both safeties to be good run supporters? Goldson is good where he is because he can cover and come up and tackle. Mays would be up in the box type SS for us.
I know what you’re sayin though about getting a true FS like Allen but we don’t know who’s going to be there so keep your minds open.

by crumpedup15 on Apr 23, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

this

just put mays in over Lewis. Bang, upgrade.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you are selling Lewis short there. Lewis is great in the box safety. He’s weakness is similar to Mays, ability to cover.

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

age, speed, upside

Lewis is absolutely better today than Mays in his role. Tomorrow though…

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve written it before. Mays would be the long term replacement for Lewis. Everyone is down on Mays because of this belief that in the box safeties are now a thing of the past. I don’t subscribe to that theory. IMO, Mays is the 49ers ideal choice at #49.

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok, we agree

I think he has to earn his spot at SS if he’s drafted, for sure, and we know Sing does too. But I think he’s poised to take the spot in 2011 or if injury strikes…

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to go on a tangent here...

but do we all remember that there is that guy on the Rams who still hasn’t signed a contract? That’s right, Atogwe.

I know you can’t count on that happening, but it’s still a possibility and Sing might have an inside edge to sign him if he does get released.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s why the 49ers might go a different positions. Should also be mentioned the 49ers have two projects at safety already in the queue.

Where they really lack depth and are absent of projects is CB and ILB.

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wilhelm and McKillop

Are decent enough depth at ILB

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't believe that

Wilhelm was pulled out his garage last season and McKillop couldn’t cover anyone’s 3rd string TE or RB.

IMO, the 49ers have Grade A starting ILBs and Grade D/F backups.

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

harsh

Wilhelm is a solid C and McKillop is a D+ at this point but he’s young. Kid was a stud in College, if he works hard he could be a solid C+ backup at worst.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty harsh at the ILB position. You either have a great athlete or the defense is in serious trouble. If both Willis and Spikes got hurt, I think the 49ers defense would plummet to the lower 3rd of the league. It happened to the Giants, I think maybe 5-6 years ago.

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

for sure

but when Willis is on your team, if you lose him…you are going to have a serious drop off in talent and production.

If Peyton Manning goes down the Colts are hosed too…same caliber of player.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

A TED doesn't need to be a great athlete

TED LB is one of the least important positions in a 3-4. Now if Willis went down there is a lack of depth but I wouldn’t sweat it if Spikes went down with Wilhelm and McKillop replacing him.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

this

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

well...

I’ll agree on CB but I think McKillop and Wilhelm are capable right now. Wilhelm might not fall into the “project” category cause of his age and experience but he’s plenty good enough to fill in for Spikes. McKillop I think is actually better suited to groom for a role as Mike, though likely as a backup. I don’t think drafting a full-fledged replacement for Willis will happen anytime soon.

I’d say if an ILB falls to us that we can’t pass up we’ll take it…but CB is more of a need. Paymah and Smith are definitely not projects and Brown is nearing the point where I’ll say he’s peaked.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

On long passing downs we can shift him down to LB also

Mays has a lot of utility to us ANYWHERE in this round. I’m all for moving up to get him with our pick, our 3rd next year and our 6th this year.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

they aren't going to pay a safety Nate's salary

and he’s got too much pride to take a pay cut. He can start for a dozen other teams who would like a veteran CB…he doesn’t have to play safety

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Clements gets cut he will take a pay cut

and I see the Niners paying Clements his salary to play safety way before they pay him to be a nickel DB.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see them cutting him first

or trading him.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

possibly Brown, but probably not.

Brown seems destined to be a Nickel back forever. And if that guy is starting over Clements or in place of Clements (injury last year)…you need some help. Taking a guy like Ghee or Cox or Ansah who can try to get in Nickel this year and be poised to challenge for the starting CB spot next would be good idea. Paymah and Smith are expendable anyways.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

not this year

depends on how he plays in 2010. He’s not the highest paid CB in the league but he has to earn his roster spot for sure. 2011 depending on who we drafted this year, maybe cut Nate unless he had a helluva year.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uncle Tom.........

Rathman that is … would be dancin in the street’s …with Toby G by his side …!!

Kewl

by Edggy on Apr 23, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

who cares

give him the ball the way Rathman got it. Passes, draws, get creative. We could use a versatile guy back there.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't waste a 2nd round pick on him and just because rathman is the RB coach doesn't

mean toby is like him, if roger craig was the RB coach would toby remind you of him lol i’m just kidding .But as 4 me, i’m not giving Toby no-more of my time and energy on a player i know were not getting no dis-respect 2 you tre i’m not saying we were arguing over-toby i’m just saying as 4 me ive gave that 2 much of my time .And 4 the record i don’t have anything against Toby G. i just got a issue with him coming 2 the niners.

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just saying

we could find a way to use him if he fell in our lap

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Am

Looking at Taylor Mays, Nate Allen, Carlos Dunlap, Everson Griffin. Daryl Washington or Golden Tate with our 2nd round pick.

Once again Jimmy Clausen is the wildcard, it would be incredibly difficult to pass up on him at 49, but it would take a lot for him to be there. Either Mccoy would have to be taken first, or as many as 5 teams in need of a QB would have to pass up on Clausen.

If prior to the draft you were told that we were going to end up with a Anthony Davis, Mike Iupati and a combination of one of Taylor Mays/Nate Allen or Everson Griffin, I think most Niner fans would be ecstatic

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by nocal81(Vincent) on Apr 23, 2010 7:45 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Washington should be picked within the first few picks tonight. Maybe even by the Rams

by 49er4life on Apr 23, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember reading it somewhere

But can’t remember where. Maybe it’s just because he’s related to Takeo Spikes

Don't trust this guy. He lies.

by urnext on Apr 23, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

When are people going 2 give that clausen crap-up unless he drops 2 the 5th rd (we don't have a 4th)

were not touching him + he’s been labeled a head-case so no-one wants him right now well atleast we don’t.

by jayjonna415 on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

we dont have a 5th either

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tedd Ginn, Jr.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Jimmy Clausen isn't the 1st pick of the 2nd round, i'd be shocked.

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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 23, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Rams will take both. They need a franchise QB . . .

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

trade

for sure

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

correct

I think Oakland moves. Clausen was tempting at 8 for them but he’s irresistible anywhere outside rd 1

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

that would be too smart

although the McClain pick wasn’t idiotic, I don’t see Al having two reasonable picks in him

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oakland is somewhat covertly moving to a 3-4

And if you consider that then McClain makes more sense than just simply replacing Morrison in the 4-3.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thinking trade with Rams.

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by Hoopers Judge on Apr 23, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hilarious

I was talking to my friend about this yesterday. I would laugh so hard if it actually happened.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Things look good for the 2nd round.

I hope the niners stay put. They should get somebody good at 49. I think the 2nd round is going to open up with a run on Clausen, McCoy, and linemen. We should be set to grab a DB or RB.

by Thor W on Apr 23, 2010 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Some thoughts on the draft:
I love that we’re fixing our O-line, but I didn’t think we needed to do it ALL in the first round, especially with the whole trading up deal. I would have rather traded back and gotten Saffold (or perhaps Davis falls), but they may have had different information. Further, it’ll be interesting to see who’s better at Guard – Iupati or Pouncey. I was kinda hoping to trade back (again) and grab Pouncey, I liked that he could fill in immediately at guard and switch over to center eventually. Oh well.

I’m excited to see how Brandon Graham’s career turns out. He was taken at our old pick (number 13); I hope we don’t end up regretting not taking him ourselves. He could turn out pretty beastly.

The Jets’ defense is gonna be SCARY. They can play one-on-one with any of their top three cornerbacks now, which leaves a ton of blitzers. And with Kris Jenkins coming back… watch out.

Pretty bummed to see Patrick Robinson go as the last pick of the first round, he’ll be a good player for the Saints, and fills a position that they desperately needed. Good pick for them.

As for the second round, there are a couple great NTs out there in Cam Thomas and Mt. Cody. I would love to get either player, and I’m surprised Mt. Cody fell so far. I’m surprised 3 RBs went in the first round, so we may be missing out on a COP back. I wouldn’t mind any of Nate Allen, Everson Griffen, Gerhart, Brian Price, or one of the many WRs still available. I think a lot of the cornerbacks will still be around in the third round (Perrish Cox, perhaps?)

And lastly: LOLBRONCOS

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by theghostofjasonellison on Apr 23, 2010 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

broncs

Tebow is a bad 1st rounder, but if he was going to go anywhere and succeed- Denver. Some people credit McDaniels with the development of Tom Brady, so why not take a flier on a guy who’s determined to erase the doubters?
As much as the pick shocked me, I liked it in the end. Props to Denver for making that step.

by t p on Apr 23, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whats funny...

With the team we’re now putting out there on D… We would absolutely cream the jets. We would run over the left side of their Defense.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

What happened with Taylor Mays last season to drop his stock from a potential high first round pick?

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by Useful_Idiot on Apr 23, 2010 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

He’s intriguing. So much that I think the powers that be at least unconsciously decided not to pull the trigger on him. The fact that he’s a freak as far as natural abilty but it does not readily translate to his play on the field I think prompted teams to pass rather than make the quick decision to go with him. I fully expect him to end up with a team today though.

by Mangoman on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

plus you look at the way it fell

I found myself uncomfortable with a lot of picks I might have previously said I would take, once I saw the pattern of the draft unfold. Clausen seemed like a horrible idea at either pick to me last night. Although previously I had said he would be a good value at 17.

I think Mays will find his home mid-2nd…if it’s us…that’s a heck of a lot better than taking him in the 1st. Besides, maybe he can bulk up and play some super-human new created position of like Rover or something. Lewis was in the box a ton last year anyways…Mays has to be considered an upgrade over Lewis.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

probably doesn't need to bulk up

I think I was thinking LB when I wrote that but that would waste his range. Box safety who keeps honing his coverage skills would be good.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

His cover skills are poor

He’s Darnell Bing heavy. Or Roy Williams lite. Or if you prefer, not much of a safety.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

This

Don't trust this guy. He lies.

by urnext on Apr 23, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

newsflash

so are Michael Lewis’

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

who's faster?

who has more ball skills? who’s had less concussions? Who’s younger?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ball skills?

Where are Mays’? You’re making an arguement for the Niners to replace Lewis with Fooch as much as you are Mays.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey

That guy Fooch has some great ball skills.
Don’t sell him short.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

skills

And I can be a big hitter too. I’ve been sitting by my phone for a while now waiting for that call!

by David Fucillo on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

You've gotta have faith

All it takes is one team to like you and you’ll get your shot.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

post-bar

The bar exam is the last week of July right around the beginning of 49ers training camp. I don’t have a job after that, so I’m thinking I’ll show up at camp like Willie Mays Hayes did in Major League.

by David Fucillo on Apr 23, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

agent

With my law degree I’m thinking I can rep myself and save the commission!

by David Fucillo on Apr 23, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

and you didn’t even need to read the fine print

by Mdizzle138 on Apr 23, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you taking applications to join your entourage?

I’m good at ordering shots and getting really drunk and claiming I don’t remember anything.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

but can you get wasted college girls to the bathroom stall?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever Fooch needs

“Take my [diuretic] shots b*tches!”

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big Ben

If Roethlisberger had been charged and gone to jail, his bodyguards would have become available. Of course not sure I want that epic fail.

by David Fucillo on Apr 23, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are smart.

i keep agreeing that people are listening to much to experts and not forming their own opinion.

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by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its got a lot to do with ESPN

They hype up these guys early and often and get people to think that theyre first rd talent…see Dwayne Jarrett, Darnell Bing, Mayaluga, etc…

That said though, I still hope Mays falls to us, as with those physical tools I feel that he can be groomed into becoming a STRONG safety in our system with not great, but potentially better coverage skills than Michael Lewis

by Rep the Bay on Apr 23, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

he should have two responsibilities

1. In the box play. Run, hit, tackle…you’re a LB essentially.
2. Deep center fielder. Stay centered and break on the ball.

He should always have man coverage underneath if he’s deep or if straight zone it should be 2-deep so Goldson can help.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mays can do #1, no doubt

Problem is Jack Cust plays a better center field than Mays does.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

he can learn

as long as he’s not left hung out to dry

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nate Allen

or DL. I don’t know if I can put any of the CB’s up there right now, especially with so many teams passing on OL’s in the first and the CB’s falling to late 1st.

Brian Price would have to be considered an upgrade over Sopoaga, Linval Joseph, even possibly Mt. Cody as Franklin insurance (you know we have no one who can really step in if he leaves or get’s injured). Singletary will get Cody’s weight down and he only needs to be a 2-down player for us, as is Franklin.

I really want Nate Allen though.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

can Griffen

play LDE in a 3-4? Seems to have the size. I would add him to the mix too. What CB’s are really left that are worthy of #49?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's more of a pass rusher.

He wasn’t asked to two-gap at USC, that’s for sure. Doesn’t seem like the kind of guy the Niners would want unless he was going to convert to OLB, and I’m not sure that’s the biggest need. The knock on Griffen is his commitment, not his athletic talent. If he’s asked to be anonymous, I’m not sure that will help his motivation issues.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Apr 23, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

OLB?

He’s like 300lbs.!

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's like 280

But he also was the online lineman to run faster than Jerry Hughes. I think Hughes is a little better for backer but Griffen has the natural speed to play it.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

take that back

JPP also ran faster than Hughes

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

you're right

I swear somewhere they had him at like 303. Combine has him at 273

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

also wouldn't mind Tate

because of his return ability. I don’t think heding our bets with Ginn as KR and PR is a good idea. Having Tate to help with returns plus another receiver (can we get rid of Brandon Jones yet?) wouldn’t hurt.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Tate is a decent returner and a good receiver that runs after the catch like a running back.. he will be long gone before 49 though unless we can get multiple picks in the round.

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw he is a good route runner too

his description was a lot like Crabtree’s, good route runner, not super fast or quick but savvy and goes after the ball.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

i feel like singeltary is being ridiculously obvious about who he wants

he did it in the first round and will do it in the third. he wants gilyard

guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy

by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

When dis he say that?

by mat.esty on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

he said yesterday he wants a wide receiver

he likes gilyard and went to Cincinnati to scout

guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy

by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

He said he would consider adding a receiver...

but it isn’t set in stone. I think what he really wants to add is another RB. Perhaps a COP guy.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

we shall see later

guillermo mota: adopted for his veteran relieving savvy

by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

reading

Norwood or Spikes but I don’t know that 2nd round is the time to look for Takeo’s replacement (who could be on the team in McKillop or Wilhelm, though that’s very uncertain)

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

The way I see our remaining picks

2nd & 3rd-CB & S (we can look at either round for one)
two 6th’s-NT (I can think of two that should be there), ILB or OLB
7th-Fringe picks (PR, QB, maybe a RB but I won’t be upset if we don’t even get one)

by Mangoman on Apr 23, 2010 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

can we trade both 6ths?

since one is compensatory? Was it that we can’t trade it for a player before the draft but we can trade it during the draft to move up? I’d like to get more picks in the top half of the rounds.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

next year's picks

could be an option. Team expects to be picking low next year anyways so risk should be reduced. The two sixths would barely get us into the 4th round, if that. I really want another 2nd or 3rd.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's alot of good players still available

like Golden Tate, Mt. Cody, Clausen, etc but I think everyone of those players will be gone by 49. I think we should go for a DB or DE. I’m big on Nate Allen but I think he will be in high demand and may not be there. Won’t be surprised if Mays is there at 49. I’d feel better about drafting him in 2nd and not with top 2 picks. Carlos Dunlap is a athletic freak but some say he doesn’t give maximun effort, but Sergio Kindle is a beast a possibly a steal. I wont be surprised if we offer up a future 2nd or 3rd round pick from 2011 to get a extra 2nd round pick this year

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by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

An extra 2nd would be nice

But if not I’m thinking in our position it wouldn’t be much of a reach to go for a S like TJ Ward or Reshad Jones in the 2nd. We’re picking a little early in the 3rd, so a CB like Walter Thurmond might be available.

by Mangoman on Apr 23, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

SCOUTS Inc. MOCK DRAFT FOR DAY 2

has us taking Nate Allen (S, USF) in the second round and Eric Norwood (LB, South Carolina).

Thoughts from anybody?

by Blank x2 on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 AM PDT reply actions  

I love it

Norwood can learn under Spikes and Allen has a chance to compete with Smith/Taylor/Lewis for playing time.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both would be pretty good

Nate would be awesom. Norwood is really good too. Had awesome numbers in college, but of course we don’t know how that would translate to the next level. Smart guy too. He’ll do well IMO.

by Mangoman on Apr 23, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would be awesome… Both players were projected to go first round in some mock drafts… Even though I don’t think OLB needs to be addressed, we would be getting great value…

by crevis1987 on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Norwood is a short, well-built player that has been the Gamecocks’ most productive defender over the past three seasons. He is a solid tackler, keeping good balance and wrapping effectively in the open field. Norwood isn’t a powerful hitter but does keep his pads over his feet which make him an efficient tackler. He is an instinctive player that reads quickly as both a run and pass defender. Norwood shows decent range in coverage but may be a liability in pure man schemes. He possesses strong hands to control blockers on contact and his low-center of gravity makes him tough to get off his feet. Norwood is a good football player that does have some limitations and discipline concerns (angles, leverage, etc.) but has enough tools to be a solid contributor at the next level.

sounds perfect for Ted. Not a lot of coverage responsibilities, take on blockers, keep your feet, make solid tackles.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

nice, all purpose LB

I like it.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

norwood was a monster

i watched him a few times and he literally dominated the game. it seemed like he was in on every tackle

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by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty good.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Allen would be a solid pick.. Eric Norwood is South Carolina’s all time leading sacker and is extremely fast coming off of the edge, but I like Allen or Mays

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Guys I expect the 49ers are also looking at in the 2nd Round

Jerome Murphy, CB USF
Dexter McCluster, RB/KR/PR Ole Miss
Mardy Gilyard, WR/KR/PR Cincinnati

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

wouldn't hate Gilyard

McCluster hasn’t done much PR in years. I like the kid, but can we trust him back there immediately?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

No

but I think he would be an asset on 3rd down and split out but he scares the hell out of me because of his size and running style. He’s a tough S.O.B but looks like NFL caliber LB will kill him

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's a poor man's Spiller/Harvin - We can use him to distract defenses from keying on Gore

Size didn’t stop him from running up the middle @MS and if he’s split out, he’ll be taking on safeties.

by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 23, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ohh I'm not downing McCluster

he’s a good back. I’m just saying he is a tough back for his size, he had to be to run in the SEC.

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looking at the NN Big Board

I see there is still DB talent that might fall and fill a need but I’m still hoping for an all purpose back. Wonder if the FO is on the same page about that. BPA

by DeathValleyCarl on Apr 23, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

McCluster was SEC hype

Just let him tumble off the board. Gerhart is the only back worth taking at our pick

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ahhight let's get to 3 O'clock!

It’s still exciting in day two. Day three, eh I’ll watch while doing other stuff. :)

by Mangoman on Apr 23, 2010 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

49ers

I like Carlos Dunlap, DE/OLB, Florida St. If gone then take Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas. If he’s gone then Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest. But if Taylor Mays falls get him first, or maybe Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama, or Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame. One of these guys will fall to us.

by 4sure9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Dunlap played for Florida but I agree with u

He is a possibility to provide pass rush…but has effort issues. Sergio Kindle i think will be a great pick for us but he will be surely gone at 49

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

How far will Clausen fall?

I said before the draft that their was a very real chance he could fall all the way to the Vikings. Turns out I was being too generous. I think the Browns will pass on him again and take McCoy. Would the Raiders or Bills take him? If they both pass on him again then he could really be in a free fall. Would it actually be posible that he could be their for the 49ers again with the 49th pick? If he is, I hope the 49ers take another pass.

Don't trust this guy. He lies.

by urnext on Apr 23, 2010 8:51 AM PDT reply actions  

hard to say

I was about to say he’ll be one of the first taken, but that depends on trades. There are a lot of good players who slid into the 2nd so without trades I could see Clausen falling 10 picks into the round.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chiefs will look at him hard

Cassell only has a year left on his deal I think.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm, he signed a 5 or 6 year deal.

It’s worth $50M and that was before last season. They might look at Clausen because it’s the 2nd round, but I think to take him would make Pioli look like an idiot for giving out that huge contract and then drafting a QBOTF the following year.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

i thought so

he got a huge extension…those usually aren’t for 2 years.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

My bad

I misread an article this morning that said the Cheifs were considering Clausen, due to Weis, at #5 because this is considered Cassell’s make or break season (not his contract season).

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

i agree with that

he can’t ride that one-year-wonder wave for much longer. Question is how much will they have in him already versus what’s left to pay?

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well the team around Cassel isn't good

I think he was good on the Pats because the team was stacked and had great coaching. The Chiefs need to give him some options and some protection, plus continuity in the system. You’re essentially doing the same thing to him that we all do to Alex Smith. Gotta have some pieces around you to succeed because neither of them are top caliber QB’s.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like Savage and Charles

they need receivers. And OLs’.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

His deal allows the Cheifs to cut him after this season though

Without losing too much $$
Not sure where I read it….

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think his guaranteed money is done after this season, therefore cutting him wouldn’t hurt the Chiefs cap.

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I still think Clausen should go to Buffalo though.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buffalo is building the worst team in the league. Why would they want Clausen?

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

They really should have drafted Tebow, then.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think the Cheifs are interested?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I'm more excited

about today than yesterday. 2 rounds of picks, lots of talented players, we did pretty well in round 1…the thought of how good this team could be with two more impact players excites the crap out of me.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

If we can get another

2nd round pick some how and make some good selections, this draft will be a A+

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Draf picks

I don’t think we should do anything that would cause us to lose draft picks next year. We will land some good players in this round and in the third.

by 4sure9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

future draft picks

i’d be more than okay with them trading picks from next year. with all the underclassmen that came out this year, nex’t year’s draft will be barren in comparison. if we can pick up somebody with a first round grade this year for our 6th and 7th round picks this year and a(hopefully late) 2nd rounder next year, i’d say we’d have to go for it.

by khammer8280 on Apr 23, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

^CORRECT!

The top 10 next year will still see tons of studs. Locker at QB… The dude from Iowa at DT that just mangled GT…

But outside of that 10 with all the Juniors that came out this year the senior class will be very poor.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

according to ESPN

Eagles might go for Mays

Who’s a good secondary after Mays?

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Apr 23, 2010 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Allen

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by mikev on Apr 23, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Allen, Burnett

for safeties.

Perrish Cox, Chris Cook, Ansah…for CB’s

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

do we need CBs or Safety?

I will always be your fan JRich. Good Luck

by chili01 on Apr 23, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

safety

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by mikev on Apr 23, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

need? neither

really. But we could upgrade Safety for sure, and CB after this season very possibly could have an opening.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wha??

You’re just kidding yourself if you don’t think either is a need. The secondary is our biggest need now that the oline is taken care of. Clements and Lewis are getting old. Clements has lost 2 steps since coming from buffalo and Lewis…well he’s about as fast as Justin Smith.
Why do you think we get burned deep so much? SPEED.
Now speed is not everything but having a safety that can actually get back in coverage (whether he can break up the pass or not) is better than a safety who is a linebacker pretending to be a safety. (Unless it’s Willis) Let’s try Willis at safety! Nobody would want to go over the middle!

by crumpedup15 on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody left on the board will outplay Clements this year

period. So no, that’s not a “need” unless he get’s hurt. Brown is good enough to be a backup. We need to cultivate future talent, yes. But a need to me is to win now, like the OL’s we took.

The defense played lights out late last year. The young guys are improving. Lewis only has to maintain his level of play for 2010. I want an heir apparent, don’t get me wrong, but we can win with what we have.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

CB

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Draft Truths

One QB always slips…hard
One projected top-10 OT always slips, and comes into the league with a chip on their shoulder
TEs always go lower than projected
and
at least one stud MLB always slips to the end of the first or out of it completely…could this be Brandon Spikes for us?

by Rep the Bay on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Spikes was never projected as a 1st rounder

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by mikev on Apr 23, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Spikes is rumored

to be slow altleast at his pro day but that dude is a football player and has good instincts. I think Sing will be able to work with him.

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by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's quick, and he'll play inside

Ted. Our defense asks the Ted (weak inside linebacker) to take on blocks, keep guys off of Willis and the OLB’s, and then make tackles as guys go by. It’s kinda like a second level NT, only more athletic and playing further back.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

i am a fan of his

he was a game changer…when he was out florida’s defense was vulnerable

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by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mays in the 2nd round! And spikes in the 3rd and I’ll be happy. Wouldn’t mind Morgan Burnnet either

Niner Ball!!!!

by Batman559 on Apr 23, 2010 9:22 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

The NFC West really had a kickass 1st round

"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 23, 2010 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

So far so good.

Lets keep it going, eh?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a reason that they picked in the top 6

Okung and Thomas fell into their lap. The Seahawks still aren’t a 6 win team yet.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are still more picks to go

They could possibly take a RB, WR, CB, or DE to fill more holes.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Problem is they need to hit on all of them

How many picks do they have left? I forget what they gave up for Whitehurst.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Apr 23, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

To contend they'll need to hit on all of them.

I’m thinking that they’ll hit on two more and get 6-7 wins this year.

Whitehurst:
They swapped pick with the Chargers in the 2nd round and they traded a 2011 3rd round pick.

I believe the Chargers used the Seahawk’s 2nd rounder to move up for Matthews.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Day 2 is defense

I would have said Corner with the 49th pick but you guys have to remember what happened at the end of the first round; The Pats took Devin McCourty & The Saints took Patrick Robinson. I dont see them reaching that high for Corners that they could get in the 3rd round. I dont think that they will picks Mays because he will be gone by that 17th pick. To me the possibilities are Mt. Cody from Alabama (Can never have too many maulers on the D-Line) or maybe Carlos Dunlap or Sergio Kindle. If those two are gone i can see them selecting Takeo’s younger Cousin Brandon. I know its not an immediate pick but the Niners have to eventually groom a successor for Takeo and if Brandon can fulfill his potential then imagine having Patrick Willis and Brandon Spikes at those spots for the next 10 years or so

by Lok on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Safety should be a pick over all the ones you mentioned after Mays

Allen, Burnett, Mays, Chad Jones are all 2nd round options for them at safety. I think they’ll be able to get one of them. If not, then there should be a worthy CB sitting there at #49.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

You are totally right that safety is a position that they should target along with Corner i just dont think that you will find value with them and especially with the fact that there are teams ahead of us who could use safety help. But i dont think that there is a corner worthy of selecting at 49 but i could be wrong. Chris Cook from virginia is the next best corner but i think that they could get him in the 3rd round.

by Lok on Apr 23, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

my big board

       here’s my top twenty list of players i want to see the niners go after today:
qb jimmy clausen
fs taylor mays
olb sergio kindle
de everson griffen
de carlos dunlap
nt terrence cody
wr golden tate
fs nate allen
rb toby gerhart
dt brian price
qb colt mccoy
wr arrelious benn
wr dexter mccluster
wr damian williams
fs morgan burnett
wr dexter mccluster
olb daryl washington
mlb brandon spikes
ss chad jones
wr marcus gilyard

    

by khammer8280 on Apr 23, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

you really like mccluster

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by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

i saw that too

had him twice.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

oops...

yeah, i think listing him once is enough. to be fair, the paper i’m looking at has him listed as wr…

by khammer8280 on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

played plenty of it at Sr. Bowl

and looked good doing it.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

in practice anyways

he was catching balls from the QB’s in practice and making some nice catches for a little dude.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Little Big Board for Rd 2

1. NT Terrence Cody
2. SS Taylor Mays
3. QB Jimmy Clausen
4. WR Arrelious Benn
5. DE Carlos Dunlap
6. FS Morgan Burnett
7. FS Nate Allen

I still think the Niners should be looking to trade next year’s 1st rounder to move up and get Cody or Mays. Both of these guys are rare one of a kind talents that you just don’t find in every draft.

I’m very high on Benn. He’s the 3rd best WR in this draft IMO and light years ahead of the hyped Tate and Gilyard in terms of NFL potential. Those two are college WR’s to me. Tate’s best case is becoming Laverneous Coles.

I’d rather not go with Allen. I don’t see the potential to be a great safety in the NFL. He’s good, but not great and would be a good guy to have on the depth chart but nobody who would make/break a draft.

Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....

by youALREADYknow on Apr 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Allen has CBesque cover skills

he’s Earl Thomas-Lite. I’d put him on top of that list.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

CB cover skills

I don’t see how that is needed in the Niners defensive scheme. If I’m wrong, then please correct me but I’d rather have someone with the range to cover space in our secondary. Burnett and Mays have more range in my book.

Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....

by youALREADYknow on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nickel

the Niners liked to pull Lewis up as the 2nd LB in Nickel, leaving Roman back as the SS. Allen could play deep in that case and get playing time right away, or drop down and cover in the slot as Nickel CB. Good practice for a rookie to get him on the field. Otherwise, a typical safety might just sit behind Goldson and Lewis all year and not play.

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

awfully small big board

i haven’t seen benn actually play besides random highlights. What besides potential makes you like him?

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by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Size/Speed combo

After Bryant and Thomas, Benn has the best size/speed combo in the draft and he’s far more agile than either Bryant or Thomas in the open field. Plus he has return experience.

If Singletary is looking to get tough, then I like going for big WR’s who can easily handle smaller DB’s.

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by youALREADYknow on Apr 23, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

so you’ve seen him play or what? this is all great that hes big and fast n such.

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by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes I've seen him play

Two Big Ten games and a ton of highlights.

He had no QB and Illinois had no passing game. Still, he was obviously the most electric player on the field when he touched the ball.

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by youALREADYknow on Apr 23, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

thats what i want to hear.

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by jobrien9 on Apr 23, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

We

should not trade a future 1st for this year 2nd we are NOT Carolina are we?
Come on now

by crumpedup15 on Apr 23, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

We're not Carolina

We are actually positioned to WIN next year with a young football team.

What’s the difference between a pick in the 20’s in 2011 versus a pick in the 33-35 range in 2010? If this is the deep draft that people claimed it was, then the 35th pick this year should be comparable to the 20-25th next year.

Find me a Terrence Cody available at pick #20 in a draft.

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by youALREADYknow on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct Already

This years 35 has talent that would go top 15-20 next season

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dont need to

A 3rd next year and something to sweeten the pot is enough to even the board up. We don’t need a 1st next year to move up.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's dreaming

Future picks have far less value than current picks. You can’t offer a lower round pick in the future for a higher round pick in the present draft.

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by youALREADYknow on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then we can offer todays 3rd.

and the numbers work to jump all the way up to the top. Somebody else will come through with bigger offers until Clausen is off the board though.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Day 2

I want some DBs…Not a big fan of Mays though(looked awful and slow against Oregon and Stanford)

Originally I thought that Gerhardt would be a good pickup but I remembered that he can’t catch the football…straight up power guy.

by calbearjd on Apr 23, 2010 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

The weirdest feeling I Have after Draft day 1

is the Raiders not blundering their top 10 pick. they actually picked up a stud… well, still a stud until he puts on that Black and silver.

Oh and just from reading, the Tebow pick seems popular than the Bradford pick.

…and of course the Cardinals are hating on us. F them!!

by LADubbz45 on Apr 23, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

I had McClain as my biggest bust in the NFL draft, way before I even considered the Raiders picking him. Sergio Kindle was 2nd but no one bothered to pick him yesterday.

by bignerd on Apr 23, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

you gotta admit

the pick at least made relative sense though. McClain was rated highly…it wasn’t another DHB

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

all that doubt McClain are utterly foolish

He’s the only reason those dudes at Alabama were near as good as they were. Calling your own shots on Defense in a pro scheme by the time you’re 21 means you’re going to make a brilliant MLB somewhere down the line.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Apr 23, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's the only reason?

Cody had nothing to do with his success?

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by youALREADYknow on Apr 23, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking that the 9ers will take a LDE today

Possibly in the 3rd.

I’d like to see Nate Allen in the 2nd though.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

this

I would like. I just saw a mock with Ansah gone mid-2nd though and that hurt. Looking like we’re re-signing Bly after the draft…

"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick

by Tre9er on Apr 23, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

This 2nd round

is loaded with talent. I truly believe if we can put together something with future 2nd or 3rd round picks to get a extra 2nd this year we can do some real damage especially on defense. If we can get a Sergio Kindle near top of the 2nd with that extra pick and then see who’s left between Allen and Mays at 49 I think we would be good.

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

2nd & 3rd

I hope they can pick up Mays or Allen with their 2nd Rd bpick and then Dexter McCluster in the 3rd. Tomorrow they can nab a DL and LB and another DB.

by KUGS on Apr 23, 2010 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Mock for remaining picks

2) S – Nate Allen
3) CB – Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
6a) RB – Deji Karim
6b) QB – Mike Kafka
7) DT – Ekom Udofia

I’d be excited about this upcoming season and our future beyond that if things went down like this.

by 9thevolution on Apr 23, 2010 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd be good with those

Karim looks like he’s got very good value for where he’s projected. Kafka I didn’t think very highly of at first, but I think I saw him on Mayock’s list of best available QB’s. Probably is considered a late bloomer. I like his mobility, has decent throwing form and gets rid of the ball very quickly. Udofia also looks like a late bloomer but might be another good value for his projection. Played a good amount of NT in his final year so he’s got experience. It’s an intangible, but I find it impressive that he has two siblings that also went to Stanford. Must be a smart brood!

by Mangoman on Apr 23, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bulaga was the only back half of the draft picks I got correct!!

2ndd 3rd and 6th rounders left, not good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLTLNIzGiLY

"We're going to get the players we have targeted," Baalke said. "I promise you that."

by rlott#42 on Apr 23, 2010 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

The more I think about it..

the more I love our first two picks. We now have no problem on the Oline and can focus on defense. I want Taylor Mays or Nate Aleen. Then give a play maker for smith, one more player maker on offensive and we’re stacked! V. Davis, Crabs, Gore, Ginn, with that Oline and get Mcluster just close your eyes and throw it up!

McCluster or even Gerhart.. I don’t care what anyone says about Gerhart I’ll have two power backs and just beat the hell out of teams with the Oline we have now. I didn’t like gerhart but after watching highlights, he is a beast.

by GMARCH on Apr 23, 2010 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

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