Not Getting Mcnabb, One of The Best Things For The 49ers
by nocal81(Vincent) on Apr 4, 2010 6:43 PM PDT
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Apparently the Redskins have acquired the veteran Eagle QB for a 2nd round pick in 2010 and 3rd or 4th round pick in 2011. Now us 49ers fans can move on and forget about the Mcnabb non story, we can also take a breath and be thankful it wasn't us.
The reasons
1. We have 3 Quarterbacks on the roster; which one of them would have gone? David Carr was just signed, so that is not an option. Alex Smith has been given a vote of confidence by the coaching staff and front office, he also had his best season in 2009 and is still incredibly young. Nate Davis is that perfect #3 QB, a project with tremendous talent and upside. So which one of these three could have have afforded to lose?
2. The front office has made a commitment to build through the draft and giving up these two picks would have spit in the face of that philosophy. Mcnabb is no longer a franchise QB, simply because of his age, and it would have made no sense. Give me a franchise offensive tackle (Jared Gaither anyone?) and then we can talk
3. Donovan Mcnabb is 33 and has a lot of wear and tear on his body after 11 solid NFL seasons, he has also missed 17 games over the last five seasons due to injury. Mcnabb has also fumbled 26 times over the last 3 seasons, a very high number.
4. Give Alex Smith the chance to build on the solid 2009 season he had. There really is no guarantee that Mcnabb will be better than Smith in 2010; in fact, he wasn't much better than him in 2009. Smith is also 7 years young and showed a lot of improvement in 2009, lets give him the reigns and see what happens. Mcnabb has also been a very lackluster big game QB, i really wouldn't have any confidence in him heading into the playoffs, which we are likely to make in 2010, with or without him.
5. Value Value Value: We all hear about value when it comes to the NFL draft, but it is reality not just something people say. Look at the players selected in the 2nd and 3rd round of the NFL draft the last couple of seasons, and tell me that you are comfortable throwing away one or even two of these players for a 33 year old QB.
2009: S- Louis Delmas, RB- LeSean Mccoy,
2008: LB- Curtis Lofton, WR- DeSean Jackson, RB- Ray Rice, RB- Jamaal Charles, WR- Jermichael Finley,
2007: LB- Paul Posluszny, G- Justin Blalock, G- Tony Ugoh, WR- Sidney Rice, LB- LaMarr Woodley, WR- Mike Walker,
2006: LB- DeMeco Ryans, LB- D'Qwell Jackson, T- Marcus McNeill, WR- Greg Jennings, DB- Devin Hester and RB- Maurice Jones-Drew
I 100 percent agree with the 49ers making no attempt to acquire Donovan Mcnabb, despite the outcry from within the NFL community to do so. The front office is doing what is best for this team and that is building through the draft. 
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Im just glad
we are giving A. Smith a chance to prove himself and build on last season. I just didnt want the Niners to give up our picks for McNabb even though i think he is still a good QB, he would have been a good fit for us
Beat Em To The Punch - Steve Walsh
Yea i admit at-first i was screaming 4 mcnabb but as time passed and reading little things about alex
working out and stuff it hit me if we going 2 do it lets do-it-together ‘’ that ride or die ’’ mentality and alex has earned another chance if any thing.So this has 2 be one of the most anticipated seasons ive ever had 2 the point i’m going 2 start saving up 4 my NFL package early ive had the package 4 about 7yrs now because i live in portland and i’m not watching the seahawks unless there playing us SO LETS GO NINERS.
I thinks it's the best thing for Smith but not the 49ers, hey we could have went to the WCO.
I want the best player in the draft.
If that's all you can add to the conversation, WHY REPLY??
sarcasm, is what that was, blatant sarcasm, you need to chill out.
I want the best player in the draft.
You have my email address if you want to make things personal. If you want to keep it to blogging about the Niners then keep it there. If you don’t like what I say personally, keep it off the boards.
LOL
whatever had something to do with the Niners? I can’t be sarcastic? LOL.
I want the best player in the draft.
You can be whatever you want… but when you post sarcasm like that, don’t expect it to go unresponded to.
You usually provide some substance, and now and again, usually when Smith's name is involved you get uptight.
I don’t mind responses, but was that one? I didn’t think so.
I want the best player in the draft.
I don't I don't classify whatever as anything near a response.
I hope you didn’t think I was serious.
I want the best player in the draft.
Finally...
people will stop talking about getting McNabb!!….and here come the Jason Campbell talks lol
I miss Joe Montana/Steve Young/Jeff Garcia
yup
i’d rather have jc than both smith and carr……too late now though
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Alex Smith is garbage...
Don't know about that....
I’d certainly take Campbell over Carr, but it’s yet to be seen if he’s actually better than Smith. They both show glimpses at times and just as quickly screw it up. It would’ve made for an interesting competition though.
by 9thevolution on Apr 6, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
So-so
Just like your contribution here. Kind of hypocrytical from your above statement, wouldn;t you say?
You can dish it out but can't take it. Your contribution would be more than so-so if you could avoid the childish rants.
I want the best player in the draft.
I can take it all day... not phased one bit by you or anyone else on here.
It’s pretty laughable if you think otherwise.
No you don't
somehow it’s always you that’s engaged in these types of arguments. rlott and I don’t do this. rlott and bignerd don’t. drummer and rlott don’t, yet you get pissy with just about everybody that disagrees with you .
Not that you’ll make any changes in your arguing style, but you should if you actually cared about exchanging ideas and not simply yelling louder and more often than the other guy.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I have plenty of reasonable debates with those that respect me. Those that don’t usually end up in conversations as such. Don’t act like you’re a saint either, cause I’ve seen you engaged in the same types of conversations.
And that's the same as me
the second I start getting the disrespect, It’s not in my DNA to just sit back and take it. I have a feeling that the people I have heated discussions with are similar in that sense.
I understand that Drew, but it goes both ways. That whatever comment started all of this, right?
I want the best player in the draft.
It may have been unecessary, but I am just getting sick of all the Smith bashing. I didn’t like him one bit before last season, but since he is our QB and the starter, I feel it’s a shame that people still hate on him. With all that he has gone through, it seems like most 49ers fans should be excited and when people hate because of his past struggles, it pisses me off a bit, I am not going to lie. And I certainly am going to defend him because he is a Niner. It would be the same thing if Nate Davis became the guy. If he became that, he would get my support. But he’s not, he’s the 3rd stringer and when I bash him, it’s mainly bashing the people that say he should start when he isn’t even close to be in a position to start.
Anyway, maybe that will give you more insight as to where the “whatever” comment was coming from.
Sick of the Smith bashing?
Smith was not bashed at all. I quit, I retire from NN
I want the best player in the draft.
eff alex smith
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Alex Smith is garbage...
Maybe I need to learn how to be more like Fooch and just not respond at all when someone is getting out of control. But everyone is different and everyone reacts differently to different situations and sometimes the send button gets hit before the cancel button.
alex smith is garbage
……..
waiting for response
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Alex Smith is garbage...
Sorry, but...
>"hey we could have went to the WCO."<<
…NO, we couldn’t have. We don’t have WCO coaches on our staff….
I agree with the sentiment that now we can just move on from here
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
do you think it's remotely possible
not that I want it to happen, but possible, that if Clausen is still around at 13 the Niners take him? What about 17?
While I think it would be a crappy thing to do…They’d have to cut Carr or Davis after Camp, or try and trade someone…but what value is there?
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
Can someone
put up an intuitive “How the McNabb Trade Affects the 49ers Draft” post? I know it’s been discussed but I think we should be re-doing our Mocks and thoughts on who’s going to be around now at 13/17.
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
was planning on it
I was thinking of putting something together for tomorrow morning looking at how this trade affects the 49ers both draft-wise, and of course 2010 season-wise
by David Fucillo on Apr 5, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Its really short and sweet isn't it?
Washington not drafting a QB ahead of the Niners likely means they are yet another team in the market for an OG or OT. Even if they don’t pick one, and say they pick Eric Berry, one of the subsequent teams ahead of the Niners would pick an OG or OT tht otherwise may be picked a little earlier. Expect the OL pool of players to be one player thinner than previously expected come pick number 13.
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
also
Philly has 11 draft picks. They’re going to make at least one trade up, and possibly more (or deal picks for 2011 picks).
by David Fucillo on Apr 5, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
it needs to be re-analyzed is all
if it took us til now to get a consensus (prob not even “there” yet actually) then this will change some things. Also I think Wash was probably the best place for Clausen to go if he went early…so I want to see some debate about who, if anyone will take him in the top half now.
I personally think Washington getting McNabb was the worst thing for Clausen. Seems he’s being completely forgotten about now until the end of the 1st.
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
Didn't know people were that into Clausen
For me, as far as Clausen is concerned, I have to quote the Great, Uncle- Gary Radnich: “Nobody cares”
Chris Cohan- YOU'RE FIRED!
McDrab Goes to Washington
NICE! Because I would have stopped being a 49er fan if Baalke or Singletary wanted to trade for him… the guy is old, hurt, loosing too many key games, and is WAY to expensive. Now, the only person I want to see the 49ers draft as a QB is Colt Mccoy at #49. So here is my prediction: #13: Haden or Bulaga #17: CJ Spiller/Davis #49: Colt Mccoy the rest will be “projects” in the Defensive pass rush or ILB areas.
McDrab, huh? and then ask for McCoy, ROTFL.
He’s too small IMO and not what we need here.
I want the best player in the draft.
Ok a real wild though here :-)
I was playing around with some ideas and looking over some stuff by a bunch of “pundits” and had this thought. Imagine Clausen dropping down …Wash? Not gonna happen. Browns? Holmgren doesn’t like him it sounds like so he passes. Bills? I think they are gonna go after Campbell. We pass on him. So let’s say he’s there at 17. What if the Vikes wanting a Franchise QB for after Favre leaves decides to trade up to our spot to be able to get him. Not sure if there’s enough incentive for them doing that and such but would be sweet. And they could get it by swapping 17 for 30 and giving us a 2, a 4 and a 6.
I readily admit that it’s farfetched.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Apr 6, 2010 5:34 AM PDT reply actions
I think we're in a good position
for trade ups. I think Clausen has a good chance to be there at 13 and again at 17. A team with an older starter and a backup who will never likely start (like Minnesota) should be looking at a guy like Clausen.
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
If Clausen lands at number 9 there's no way the Bills can afford to pass up on him
not with their huge needs
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
I don’t really see any way Clausen falls to the 49ers. There really are just too many teams right now that are starved for quarterbacks. I don’t think I can remember any year of my life where the quarterback play across the NFL was as bad as it was in 2009.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 6, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Bills get Campbell it's a possibility, I don't think the Raiders will take a QB in round one, adding a vet would be different.
I could see Clausen falling to 13, but, all of the teams above our pick at 13 will have the oppurtunity to trade back. Clausen is rated in the top ten in some mocks, so I can see a team jumping to 9 for him, so I have to agree with you on this. With no tradeups, he can fall to us at 13 easily.
I want the best player in the draft.
who starts week 1?
Edwards? Fitzpatrick? Clausen? Open 3-man competition? Do you cut the 3rd QB or keep them all? I think Edwards, unless he recently got an extension, isn’t making much these days but Fitzpatrick made $3M last year and I’m guessing that goes up in 2010. So is Fitzpatrick the odd-man out solely because of salary or do they try to restructure his deal if he’s the #2 QB?
I started a fanpost to discuss this sort of thing because I want to know how a team like Buffalo, Seattle, Cleveland, etc. handles the lack of a good starting QB, even though they have several guys who have started games before (except Seattle…though they’re paying Whitehurts as though he had)
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
Probably Clausen
Won’t be Edwards—that ship has sailed. There might be a competition between Fitzpatrick and Clausen but Edwards will be 3rd string at best.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
If I'm Edwards though
I want out of that situation. He started before, and he’s not old. Those guys don’t want to accept backup roles. His salary is tiny. Think they cut him or does he have any trade value? 5th round pick maybe?
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
I can't see it
he wasn’t effective as a starter and he’s injury prone. I think that the Bills would be lucky to get a 6th or 7th out of him
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
He's captain checkdown
I don’t think he’s worth a draft pick.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Apr 7, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
or Cleveland
they can’t really build that team with DelTurnover and Jitterbug as their “future”. It might buy them a year or two but they have to groom someone even in that case.
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
To Smiley (won't let me reply)
See I figure that Bills are gonna go heavy for Campbell.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Apr 6, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions
Can't see it myself
Besides I think Oakland grabs Campbell
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Really?
Think Uncle Al is finally willing to admit he made a mistake?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Apr 6, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we're talking different Campbell's here
I was assuing you were talking about Bruce Campbell, but instead you’re talking Jason Campbell?
In that case I can see Buffalo making a move for him as he’ll be an upgrade over the QBs they have now.
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Yeah getting Jason Campbell not Bruce LOL
McNabb is in and he doesn’t want to be relegated to 2nd string nor does he was to go to OAK. Browns might take a look at him as well but for some reason don’t think Holmgren wants him. Holmgren is waiting to pick from next year I believe.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Apr 6, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
And the beat goes on....
Here’s another sad excuse for not getting Donovan. Look….the Eagles were 11-5, we were 8-8. Donovan was a major part of that. Period. They made the playoffs. We didn’t…in a much weaker division.
Too many people say that they think McNabb wouldn’t fit our team because he’s 33 yrs old. And can’t possibly get better then what he is now. I counter that thinking by saying….what’s the guarentee that Smith will get any better than what he showed last year? If a better season for him is 18 TD’s and 12 INT’s, then we better pray.
And while we’re on the subject of age, who in the world thinks the Niners would have to sign McNabb to a huge multi-year contrat? The truth is any savey GM WOULD sign him to a lucrative deal….but, it would only be for 2-3 years. With the last season being an option year. There is that age arguement brought to ground. Donovan would be brought in to win FOR THE NOW! Our team as it sits is only a couple pieces away from being in the playoffs. A couple years from being in the BIG game.
By the way…WHO THE HELL THOUGHT SIGNING DAVID CARR WAS A GOOD IDEA?!!!!! that person should be drug out into the middle of the stadium and beaten about the head and shoulders with heavy, blunt instruments! To answer your question about which QB would go….Carr would go. The Niners would simply have to swallow the contract as a lose.
Finally, when you wanna talk about VALUE…..A 4 time pro bowl QB gotten for only a 2nd rd pick and a possible 3rd or 4th next year is EXTREME VALUE! That’s akin to getting a slightly used Mercedes for the cost the ost of a KIA! No matter what anyone on here says, McNabb has been a steady, consistant player his whole career. And before you start screaming of his age agian, think back a couple seasons when we were clamoring to get Kurt Warner, who would’ve cost us a heck of a lot more in both money, and draft picks.
Look, as it is, we have 2 first rd picks this year and have enough picks in the later rds to make the team better. Even if we got McNabb. The real dilemma would be, how we used those picks as to whether McNabb would’ve been a good pick. Besides, all you Alex Smith lovers out there….IF McNabb came to San Fran, there’s no guarentee he would have been given the starting position off the bat. A QB duel makes those in competition bring their “A” game. The player who plays best gets the job. Period. As far as how the team would have played with DMac, that’s what coaches are for. They get the team to play a system that best affords their players the best way to perform their tasks. If not, then maybe we need a band of better coaches.
K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr
Signing David Carr was a good idea.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Apr 7, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
i agree
guy is hungry and has something to prove. I’d say his attitude is as good or better than Alex Smith’s too. He has a learning curve to overcome in a new system but if he get’s a chance I think he will be as ready as he possibly can.
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
Absolutely....
he’s a more capable backup than Hill is in our offense.
Darkkstarr – you really believe we are a few pieces from the playoffs? We could make the playoffs with the roster we had last year. We lost SIX GAMES by a TD or less. Tack on one extra TD for each of those games, and we’re 14-2 and #1 overall seed in the playoffs. You really think we’re going to regress in any way from that?
You miss my point....
Many of the same people on this site had the same outlook I did LAST YEAR! Your arguement actually makes my point. We were only a couple TD’s from having that record. What I propose isn’t a scaling back….it’s a building up of what we already had!
As far as a regression is concerned, I’m not so scared of our team going backward, as of the moves made by other teams in our division that can propell themselves FORWARD! As it stands right now, I think everyone can agree, that we are in one of the weakest divisions in the league. Yet, our FO has made NO MOVES to improve! That to me speaks volumes of the direction that this team is headed in. Neutral.
K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr
Division
I don’t see the division being anywhere out of reach for the Niners. Making moves in FA isn’t going to drastically improve the team based on what’s available. Every team in the division with the exception of the Rams has regressed this offseason. I really don’t think it’s necessary to make the kind of splash the Bears have in FA to field a winning team.
FO doesn’t need to do anything until the draft and what happens after that. Atogwe isn’t going to be available until June, and there really aren’t any quality FA’s out there. The labor situation isn’t helping the FA cause, but it really shouldn’t be a concern.
by 9thevolution on Apr 14, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree singing him was a good idea
the consensus seems to be it was a good idea. Maybe the people that think it was a bad idea should be the ones who are “drug out into the middle of the stadium and beaten about the head and shoulders with heavy, blunt instruments”
"All during film, I'm calling him Bam-Bam, like from 'The Flintstones,' because he hits everything. He is the truth" - Chad Ochocinco on Patrick Willis
I find it funny.....
That people like you seem all to quick to say a thing like signing Carr was a good idea. However, what do you base that idea on? A premonition? A thought? How about a little angel or demon on your shoulder that tells you so? I point to the fact that almost any decent QB can be successfull withthe amount of talent on the Giants. And all he did was stand in for 2 games. During that stint, he was a whopping 22-33, for 225yds, and 1 whole TD! Wow! Those are the type of numbers that scream “2 year contract!” Come on Lou….get real man.
K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr
That's the type of performance you want from a backup.
Despite what Carr was told, he isn’t competing for a job. Niners are putting all their chips behind Smith. If he fails, then so do they and some people are out of a job. I don’t think there was a better backup on the market. Would you prefer Marc Bulger?
by 9thevolution on Apr 14, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
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