Golden Nuggets: Trade up?
by James Brady on Apr 7, 2010 3:39 AM PDT
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Morning everybody. Apologies that the links are going up late, it turns out that our lovable dictator, Fooch, is actually A SLACKER! Long story short, I asked him to handle the links today for me, he obliged, I woke up about a minute ago (3:20 AM) and noticed they weren't up so I decided I'd throw something together for you. I'm sure he got busy, something of that nature, no big deal, hope you don't mind thirty minute late links. As far as what I've got for you, I think I got a couple, don't expect any startling revelations, but do expect some more McNabb talk. I guess it's a testament to how little news is coming out of the 49ers camp right now that we have to keep talking about a player who should have been out of the discussion oh.. three days ago. That being said, enjoy the links regardless!
Maiocco is of the opinion that the 49ers must do everything they can to trade up in the draft and get one of the top three or four tackles in the draft. Honestly, I don't see it. The team needs a starting right tackle, not a left. If they move up, it better be for a left, and at that point, that means Staley is moving to the right, and I really think he's better suited for the left. You take a RT somewhere in the middle of the first round to the early second round... right where the 49ers are sitting. (PressDemocrat.com)
Barrows pores over McNabb and the 49ers future as he writes from D.C. I guess McNabb is in the air? (SacBee.com)
Sando takes a look at the value of a right tackle. (ESPN.com)
Jump for more links...
Pass rushing specialist Aaron Morgan worked out with the 49ers recently, according to this link. (NationalFootballPost.com)
The team is also scheduled to work out DT Ekom Udofia. Never heard of him. (Scout.com)
A look at some of the mock drafts of the NFC West, look provided by Sando over at ESPN. (ESPN.com)
I didn't get a chance to look at this video yet, but it's supposed to be some of the folks at ESPN analyzing the 49ers draft needs. (ESPN.com)
A Santa Clara judge recently rejected a motion to change the wording of the 49ers stadium ballot, which alleged that the ballot was misleading. (MercuryNews.com)
I'm not sold that LB Manny Lawson isn't conforming to the 'change of culture' within the 49ers locker room. I do wonder why he wasn't at the early OTAs, but then again--we know why those OTAs were in place and it didn't seem like he needed to be there. Would have been nice, though. (NinersCentral.com)
What releasing QB Marc Bulger means to the Rams. (TurfShowTimes.com)
Well that would be something. Would Marc Bulger be a fit for the Cardinals? (AZCentral.com)
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NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DON’T YOU DARE TRADE BOTH FIRST ROUNDERS TO MOVE UP IN THE DRAFT!!!!!!!!! YOU HEAR ME BAALKE!!!???? DON’T MAKE ME COME OVER THERE!!!!!
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Apr 7, 2010 7:58 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I AGREE!!!!!
Hehehe. . .Yeah you’re right. That’s a lot to give up if we were targeting an OT. The thing that’s nice to know in this draft is there are a good amount of T’s out there. I kinda think it would be a good indicator of how good a GM Baalke would be if he just stood pat, did his homework and we’ll see who he come up with.
If we can stand pat and grab a quality offensive tackle, I’m all for it (of course). But I’m actually for moving up in the draft and grabbing one of the highest rated tackles—even if it’s a left tackle—as long as it doesn’t cost us BOTH of our first rounders. Give someone a first, and then a second from next years draft. I’d rather not part with any picks in this draft, but if we had to lose our second rounder to nab someone like Bulaga or WIlliams, I’m all for it.
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Apr 7, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, but no thanks...
…to Anthony Davis and Bruce Campbell
Much easier, all-mighty Megatron, then attacking the real threat...The Autobots moonbase!!
by Brave Neander on Apr 7, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
The only ones I'd trade up for
Are Okung and Bulaga. The others seem to have too many inconsistencies to give anything up for.
I am indeed a slacker
I actually was thinking about it as late as 10:30pm. I finished up the 13th overall pick article at 11 and decided to watch Lost (I had class during the airing so I watched it from my DVR). Lost melts my mind every week so I completely forgot about it. Thanks for getting them up James.
Oh wow.
I was joking about the slacker things, but it turned out to be right. Haha..
That being said, don’t think me, thank my habit of waking up in the middle of the night for a glass of juice or tea.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Chiefs fan here...
what do you guys think about trading up to 5 and taking Claussen. You could still use 17 on a tackle. No offense, but I think the one thing holding your team back is a franchise QB. Alex Smith isn’t the answer if you ask me. All you would have to give up to get Claussen is a 2nd rounder. I know Jimmy seems like a douche, but I bet you he is the best QB in this class.
Call me Red or IBR for short
At least the team is getting value with Okung. He will be a Pro Bowl level LT which is exactly what you want to draft with a #5 pick.
I'd be ok with the team trading up for any of these guys
Suh, Berry, Okung
If they don’t trade up I’d prefer they trade back into the 2nd round
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
Berry would be worth more than Okung, I think leaving Staley where he is and at a good price would make more sense.
Plus acquiring additional 2nd’s would have to be considered.
Let me see that Belly Roll........ - Major Payne
I just am not sold. . .
on any of the QB’s this year, and would rather stick with Smith. I guess i want to see what he can do before we draft a high 1st round prospect. If he can adapt his play under center to be anything near what he can do out of shut gun i would be happy with him.
Not to mention Clausen beet the nor cal champions (Cardinal Newman) to win state, and i will never forgiven him for that. Especially since he showed up in a limo, and i believe, in a white tux.
Not only that, but he was a complete a-hole to everyone on Newman's team
I know there is some trash talk that goes on in these games, but I’ve heard from some of the players and people at the game (I’m from the town Cardinal Newman is in) that his trash talk went beyond a competitive nature and was flat out malicious. It was kind of funny though because Newman was a huge underdog and Clausen kept saying his team was going to beat the site decorum out of us. Newman ended up taking it to overtime and nearly won. Man it would have been sweet to beat that guy in the state championship game.
Handsomeness is a burden my face has to live with. Every day.
i freakin hate newman
because they always destroy all of the teams around. who is to say if its legit or not (ie. if they recruit) but if they tend to be so much better than the teams around i wanted them to win state, so that we could say, “Hey we lost badly to them, but they were state champs, there was no way to stop them”.
Supposedly Monty and a couple of other schools have been doing really well, so we will see. It was the only game i ever rooted for Newman and the only game ive ever seen them loose…a little ironic.
Ninjames .......
think’n there’s not alot of us that’s going to be upset if your late @ 3.30 am …..anyway i’m more of the thought of moving back in the draft …juz want more pick’s and think’n this is a pretty deep draft …….No clausen …!!!!
Kewl
Well there's people I know for sure...
…who are on the east coast who read them at 6 AM their time when they go up. I know of one person even, who reads the Nuggets at 12 Noon in… I think Scotland? And that works out to about the time the Nuggets go up. Even if it’s one guy, you want to be consistent.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
I'm that guy ...
… Hi, my name is LondonNiner, and I live in a small town called London, which is in Scotland, which is in itself a small hamlet within Norway. I wait every day for these so-called Nuggets, sitting as I do on my lighthouse, waiting for that one ship to float past every two-and-a-half-years, and missing my family who were all eaten by mackarel seven years ago. These darn Nuggetty-things are the only damn thing good in my life, the only contact I have with the outside world, and this absolute jerk, Ninny Jimmy or whatever he’s called, has screwed them up.
Half an hour’s difference – HALF AN HOUR’S DIFFERENCE, Edggy? Do you not realise that this made the difference between my life being happy, my ravenous appetite for Niners news sated, and being left feeling like I had no friends, no joy, no hope. Well guess what, Nino Jambo, today was the day the ship came past, and I didn’t even bother turning on my bulb at the top of the lighthouse, out of spite to humanity, caused by your tardiness. You now have that ship on your conscious, farm boy – the lives and contents of those that once sailed in it, now smashed to smithereens on the rocks of Great Britain’s northernmost outcrop. I really hope you’re satisfied. If Fooch doesn’t fire this joker, this Nan Jim, then I swear to Sing this will be the last time LondonNiner ever visits this God-forsaken Nuggetland again.
After this I’m really a Drew K kind of guy – me and you are finished, NinnyJims.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
The second person to try and get me fired!
I’ll have you know Fooch was supposed to do them today, not me! And Drew K is.. well.. don’t tell anyone, but I heard that he hates foreigners. Just something I heard. Drew K doesn’t have half the talent that I have in my left pinky, and I’ll have you know my left pinky is well within the top percentile of pinkys.
And forgive me for being polite! I won’t ever apologize ever again.
Also what’s this Great Britain place you’re on about? Last I heard you were in London in Scotland in Norway. Is Great Britain some kind of city? You uh.. barmy bloke, you. Anyway, I’m gonna go back to my fast cars, beautiful women, dentistry, overweight problem, crumbling economy and communist health plan, while you go back to your… lighthouse.
And damn are the cars fast.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Oooops.........
being scottish dont want my brothern gett’n his kilt in a bunch ……..my bad !!!!!
Kewl
Only trade up I will accept is for Berry.
Trade down would be fine to stockpile some picks as long as they’re for this year and not the future. Otherwise, stand pat and stay true to the board.
Hmmm...
Not sure I agree with the assessment of Manny either. I mean, I don’t get to see enough games to really know, nor do I have access to game tape, but I still really like Manny’s coverage abilities, and I think his ability to get to the outside and hunt down RBs is probably better than Brooks at this point. I think another OLB via the draft is likely, but between Brooks and Lawson and Parys, there’s some pretty good talent that is still developing. People look at the gaudier highlight plays/stats too often. I’m learning, because of this site, largely, that there’s a lot more than just sack/overall tackle numbers to a player. Look at Takeo, J Smith, Abruyo, etc. Those guys are all about technique, leadership, and team defense. Manny has specific talents, and he’s still learning. He may never be a star, but it’s not a huge leap for him to be an integral part of a top 3 defense.
Agreed on your assessment of Lawson being well rounded
Unfortunately, that might not be enough to keep him around. I’m still hopeful that he can stay and be a 3-down player because he’s a better OLB than Harrelson and Brooks, but his pass rush isn’t putting up 10 sack seasons and his draft position should dictate that. Even if he has an off year, he should garner a bigger contract than the Niners would like to offer and he’ll be gone.
Depending on the Niners draft board, if they take a OLB pass rushing prospect in the 1st or 2nd, Lawson is all but done in SF. I’d like to see him have a breakout year though and prove everyone wrong.
Who cares about his draft position at this point?
What’s important is how his salary balances with his role on the team. I haven’t seen enough of Brooks to know what his coverage skills are like, but at this point, Lawson is the only guy who has the size and athleticism to match up with the better TEs in the game.
GM is needed desperately!
Look guys, until they get some EXPERIENCED leaders in the front office, things won’t improve and the draft picks won’t be right. I read that Rick Reiprish with the Saints (he built the Jags ground up, too) is in line to be the new GM. Let’s only hope these guys are smart enough to land this football wizard.
Saints took a few years to build their club, but with the right roster and staff, they did it. Now Reiprish can do the same for us…if the reports are true – but we won’t know until AFTER the draft unfortunately.
If it’s not true and they bring another kid in there, I’m OUT! Goodbye to my season tickets and 24 years of being a fan. It’s too much of the same for too long.
Where did you see these reports?
by Rod Blogojevich on Apr 7, 2010 2:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd like to know as well
that would be an interesting selection for sure
Member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010
seriously
link please. I’m googling all over the place and finding nothing on Reiprish outside of comments in various random threads around the Internet.
by David Fucillo on Apr 7, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
No need to trade up...
We’ll be able to land a lineman @ 13 or 17. Look at how far Oher dropped last year. It would be a waste of picks.
exactly
we will get Okung and Spiller @ 13 & 17, then of course its a lock for Nate Allen in the 2nd
why
are we sold on spiller? Just because of his return prospects and his ability to back up Gore? wouldn’t it theoretically devalue our drafting Coffee?
i mean, spiller would be amazing for Madden and everyone loves a return guy that can take it to the house every time he touches the ball, but i am not sure its what we need.
maybe it would be worth trading down? the reverse, keeping one pick for a O-Line man and then getting more players in the early 2nd round (or what not)?
It’s very difficult to not be sold on Spiller. You look at his versatililty and the numbers he put up and it’s so hard to not want him on our team (Just under 2700 all-purpose yards, 21 TD’s, 5 returning in his Sr year alone, over 26 yard PR avg, almost 32 yard KR avg). It might be devaluing Coffee, but I think we sort of sold out on him. He had very mediocre numbers prior to his Jr year, finally broke out in Jr year but then decided to come out early, which I think may have been a mistake. So only because we’ve committed ourselves we should continue to develop Coffee, but if Spiller fell to us, there’s no way he should be passed up!
first of all it was really sarcastic in that it would never happen - OT is a long shot at 13
2) Spiller is off the chains – and when the hell does a madden comparison factor into anything at all?
The madden thing
was a joke ;-)
and that is convincing about spiller, no one would deny that he looks like an incredible prospect. It is in comparison to other where does he stand in relation to the other players in the draft. I think i need to shift this discussion over to the “big board”.
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