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49ers-Seahawks 2010 Week 1 Opening Line: The mystery that is Seattle

Although we currently sit just over four months away from the start of the 2010 NFL regular season, the odds makers have already released a variety of odds, including some preliminary odds on week 1 matchups. According to betvega.com, the Las Vegas Hilton released odds on week 1. Next time I'm down there I'll check it out, but for now we'll take BetVega's word.

In a line that doesn't surprise me, the 49ers-Seahawks matchup at Qwest Field is a pick 'em. Why am I not surprised by this? Well, I honestly don't know how any of us can make much of a prediction about the Seahawks in 2010. More importantly for the 49ers most immediate concerns, week 1 is a big mystery as far as I am concerned. They've got a bunch of question marks, but they may have some big-time answers as well.

Although anything can happen in training camp, let's just assume the Seahawks will be relatively healthy heading into week 1. They've added some interesting talent to the team, both in a fantastic draft, and some intriguing trades. It may take a while for the team to gel, but we don't really know what to expect right out of the gate.

The other issue is new head coach Pete Carroll. He's struggled in his two prior head coaching jobs, so one would think the trend would continue. At the same time, he's coming off a very successful run at USC so he's certainly not lacking for confidence. Although he might revert to his Coach Fredo ways, who knows when that will happen. Maybe Carroll starts out strong before fading, or maybe he's actually going to be a good head coach this time around (hey, crazier things have happened).

At this point I do think the 49ers are still a better team than the Seattle Seahawks. However, I don't know how great a disparity there is between the two teams. I do think the 49ers can win the NFC West in 2010, and should probably be the favorites. The problem will be getting off to a good start with a schedule that doesn't do them many favors early on. I don't care who the Seahawks are rolling out, opening the season at Qwest Field is going to be a tricky proposition. I'm really quite curious to see how this line moves over the next four months. Injuries and the preseason will have a lot to say about that. It certainly can't get here soon enough.

Star-divide

Thursday, Sept. 9, 2010
8:30 p.m. ET - NBC
Minnesota Vikings 54 +175
New Orleans Saints -4 -200

Sunday, Sept. 12, 2010
1 p.m. ET
Carolina Panthers 41 +270
New York Giants -7 -330

1 p.m. ET
Miami Dolphins -2 1/2 -140
Buffalo Bills 38 1/2 +120

1 p.m. ET
Atlanta Falcons 42 +105
Pittsburgh Steelers -1 1/2 -125

1 p.m. ET
Detroit Lions 43 1/2 +270
Chicago Bears -7 -330

1 p.m. ET
Cincinnati Bengals 44 1/2 +230
New England Patriots -6 -270

1 p.m. ET
Cleveland Browns 37 1/2 +110
Tampa Bay Buccaneers -2 -130

1 p.m. ET
Denver Broncos 42 1/2 +125
Jacksonville Jaguars -2 1/2 -145

1 p.m. ET
Indianapolis Colts -3 -160
Houston Texans 48 +140

1 p.m. ET
Oakland Raiders 42 +330
Tennessee Titans -8 -400

4:15 p.m. ET
Green Bay Packers 46 1/2 +105
Philadelphia Eagles -1 1/2 -125

4:15 p.m. ET
San Francisco 49ers 39 -110
Seattle Seahawks PICK -110

4:15 p.m. ET
Arizona Cardinals -3 -120 -175
St. Louis Rams 42 +155

8:20 p.m. ET - NBC
Dallas Cowboys -4 -200
Washington Redskins 44 +175

MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2010
7 p.m. ET - ESPN
Baltimore Ravens 38 1/2 +125
New York Jets -3 +105 -145

10:15 p.m. ET - ESPN
San Diego Chargers -5 1/2 -260
Kansas City Chiefs 45 1/2 +220

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Pete’s love for khakis makes me want to stop wearing them to work.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on May 1, 2010 7:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Some of these lines are tempting

…but yeah it’s still early.

I did a round of the NFC West teams websites. You can watch everyones minicamp videos. I hate to say but Seattle did “seem” more improved. Thier run game looks like it will be better and stupid Golden Taint looks ready to go, but I feel Crabtree has Earl Thomas’ number all day!

The Rams look like the Rams with a new young QB. And I could only laugh when I saw Matt Lienart in the Cards vid. He reminds me of a meatier Johnny knoxville, I don’t know why. Though it doesn’t help that they play the Rams week 1. That’ll get anyones momentum rollin.

by LADubbz45 on May 1, 2010 8:02 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

What are you? A seahawks fan?

That is done by fans all over the country, you have a lot of “other” work to do. Can I sign up for Blog Police duty too?

"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.

by rlott#42 on May 1, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

"icantmakeyouthink" is full of ....

He predicted with absolute certainty that in 2009 the niners would win no more than four games, and probably only three.

by CorneliusJ on May 1, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

its official: GOLDEN TAINT

stuff that up your Stats pipe and smoke it

by LADubbz45 on May 1, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

He could be downgraded to Bronze Taint soon enough.

by bignerd on May 1, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm voting for Sweaty Taint

When he’s running down the field every play while hasselcrack is picking turf out of his helmet!

by Chip douglas on May 1, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

running game...

would have to improve to best in the league to be any threat to our D. We stifled (almost) everyone we faced last year.

by t p on May 1, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I definitely bought tickets to this already. 9 rows back from the 30 yard line on the Niners side! Can’t wait. Hopefully we can stomp them so I won’t look like an idiot walking out of the stadium with my Niners jersey on.

by Brodieman on May 1, 2010 9:03 AM PDT reply actions  

This is gonna be one of our most difficult division games. Hasselbeck is healthy and that is always an issue.

Plus our passing defense didn’t get any better. One thing that may be a strength for us is the lack of size in the front 7 for the Seahawks, they got smaller. Hopefully someone occupies Mebane all game and we can dominate in the trenches. I can tell you now, whoever puts up the points quickest and get an early lead will prevail.

"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.

by rlott#42 on May 1, 2010 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

did the hawks really do anything to get better at Run D?

and I’m pretty sure we did a lot to get our ground game better. Tempo.

And having Nate back will be a better situation than the game we took to the wire (dropped TD’s, no PI call, muffed punt return reverse handoff).

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and our pass rush

should be better. I expect it.

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHY?

"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.

by rlott#42 on May 2, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I did say we should be able to run on them.

I also said we did not improve our pass defense for 3rd down situations, so our weakness is matched against their strength.

"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.

by rlott#42 on May 2, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mebane and Tatupu being healthy should make it better.

Almost all the yards in the first matchup was with both players out. In the second game in Seattle with Mebane back, the 49ers were held to 53 yards rushing.

by Mind of no mind on May 2, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whole season is riding on Alex Smith

The defense will be their, and the rest is all on Alex , 49ers go as far as Alex will take them!

by clrncbll on May 1, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Season rides on the defense. Our division has gotten stronger offensively.

"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.

by rlott#42 on May 1, 2010 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Pete Carroll.

So, what exactly was it that made Pete a bad NFL head coach during his two stints? Anybody have any thoughts on that?

"Son, I'm going to break you like a wild horse." - Mike Singletary

by dutra on May 1, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Troll much?

I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
Also surviving member of the underwhelming Jed York Conference Thread 3/22/2010
Eat Shitake!

by Hoopers Judge on May 1, 2010 1:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't he take over a team that Parcells was building? The year after he left they went to a superbowl, I think.

"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.

by rlott#42 on May 1, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Couple things

They went to Superbowl when Parcells had em, Carroll got worse and worse the 3 years or so he was coach, and then they fired him and they went back to Superbowl. Something like that. Bill Simmons has a couple articles on Carroll, he hates him….Read both, pretty funny.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060105

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100420

by hudd07 on May 1, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

They went 5-11 with Belichick the first year in 2000.

The patriots were also off to a 0-2 start in 2001 when Bledsoe went down with an injury and Tom Brady stepped in. The rest is history.

by Mind of no mind on May 2, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 49er secondary is the key.

The offense will score some points and the defense will check the run. The CB is the one area not substantively addressed by the draft. Not giving up the big pass play and making an average number of 3rd down stops will seal wins; the reverse will let games fall through fingers. The safeties will have to play big. I’m worried that they will lack cover capacity though they will be big hitters and help against the run. (Sorry for the general comment on the Seattle game.)

by Vertigo on May 1, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

You better reconsider this statement:

“The other issue is new head coach Pete Carroll. He’s struggled in his two prior head coaching jobs, so one would think the trend would continue.”

Pete Carroll, born in San Francisco, and the Niners D.C. in 1996 and 1997.

If it does “continue” he will take Seattle to playoffs two out of the next three years, like he did in his last NFL head coaching gig: New England. He was FIRED after they didn’t make the playoffs his last year: 8-8. But Mike is “improving us” at 8-8??

1997: 1st place. Lost to Steelers. 1998: Wildcard. 1999: 8-8 with a faltering finish that kept them from making the playoffs.

Know what you are talking about, please. Think he isn’t looking forward to having Tate burn the guy we picked ahead of him, that no-cover Safety that Pete passed on too?? His own player?? Tate ate his lunch when the Irish played the Trojans, now will do it twice a year against us..for years..bet on it.

Dissing a San Francisco boy and former 9er D.C….geez. Dissing PETE CARROLL??? Are u nuts?

by icantmakeyouthink on May 1, 2010 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

a different read on Carroll comment

I don’t see the question marks around Carroll as an extreme notion. He has something to prove as an NFL coach. Those who wish to defend his NFL coaching have the case to make, rather than the other way around. I also think that the claims about him evoked curiosity rather than “dissing.” To raise questions is not the same as to ignore his accomplishments.

by Vertigo on May 1, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

"know what you are talking about, please"

Pete Carrol is renowned for a coach that should have never come to the pros. He is considered an NFL head coach failure by almost everyone. Your perceptions on the matter don’t change that.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.

by James Brady on May 1, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carroll's record

Jets Head Coach
1985: 6-10

Patriots Head Coach
1997: 10-6 (1-1 in the playoffs)
1998: 9-7 (0-1 in the playoffs)
1999: 8-8

His first head coaching gig was horrible. The second gig he took over a team that Parcells had built and it looks to me like he ran it into the ground. The next year the Pats went 5-11 thanks to Carroll’s dismantling of the team.

I was right, you were wrong.

by smileyman on May 1, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice stats....

Crickets chirping from the opposition lol

by sanfranfanmdk on May 1, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice stats....

Crickets chirping from the opposition lol

by sanfranfanmdk on May 1, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

zing!

…and I don’t know much about USC, but I hear they were pretty bad last year. If he coaches the Seattle D (which sucks to begin with) as he coached his college defense last year, it’s going to be a long season for the chickens.

by t p on May 1, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carroll dismantled the team?

That’s an ignorant statement based on speculation.

Kraft has even come forward and said that Carroll was never given a fair chance, because after having a person like Parcells running the team, they weren’t sure if they wanted to give that kind of control to a HC again, so Carroll wasn’t given a lot of control, and players were allowed to run upstairs to management whenever they had a problem with a coaches decision.

The FO also went against Carroll’s wishes and not only traded the teams best player, Curtis Martin, but also traded him to a division rival. Martin went on to have 7 straight 1,000+ yard seasons for the jets. He also did not have any say in the team drafts, and the FO drafted horribly in his 3 years.

Then they brought in Belichick and gave him complete control over everything, and they got back to where they were before the FO started meddling (in large part because Bledsoe got hurt and Brady came in and was amazing).

That is the reason that Carroll took so long to come back to the NFL. He had some offers, but was not willing to come back unless he was certain that he would have total control over his own roster, and would be able to have input on the draft. Because he had neither of those things in New England.

by Mind of no mind on May 2, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching the Seahawks last year and thinking, if they only added Pete Carroll and Golden Tate that team would freaking awesome!

by bignerd on May 1, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

yeah, and 4 players along the front 7, and a QB who can last an entire season…

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are we blowing smoke up Carrol's backside?

Were 49er fans! We like the gore’s and the crabtrees’s of the world but we root for the team. Good bad or indifferent! When players or coaches like Carrol leave that’s the end there gone and we move on! Unless your Montana, Rice or Bill Walsh you leave and we say don’t let the door hit you in the backside on your way out! Carrol is a great collage coach but if anyone thinks he’s gonna turn the sea chickens into last years saints by next year then they must be drinking some pretty good koolade up in Seattle!

by Chip douglas on May 1, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling that the very first pass in this game will tell us what will happen.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.

by James Brady on May 1, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Nah.. not to Ginn, at least.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.

by James Brady on May 1, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah you are right....

maybe another 80 yd TD run from Gore lol

by sanfranfanmdk on May 1, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about a bomb to Josh Morgan?

Silence the haters.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.

by James Brady on May 1, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Int by Taylor Mays

Pick six then we all laugh at Pete.

by manraj7 on May 1, 2010 12:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Then Mays runs over and spikes the ball at Pete’s feet lol well maybe not the last part, don’t want a penalty

by sanfranfanmdk on May 1, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

i really

am hoping morgan has a breakout season. i dont know whats been holding him back up to this point

"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai

Alex Smith is garbage...

by redrum21225 on May 1, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gore trucking Earl Thomas

then going for 40+ yards and TD, then Mays sends Tate to the locker room, and Willis retires Hasselbeck.

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The NFC West now belongs to the 49ers

There is no way we don’t win this division and I wouldn’t be surprised if we swept the division

by Willy G on May 1, 2010 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

we should

I hate hearing everyone acting like it was a lucky fluke we went 5-1 in the division last year. What did the Cards to do get better? The ‘Hawks, you can’t add a ton of new players and expect miracles. St. Louis, they’re on the right path but please.

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matchup-wise

I think we’re gonna have the edge. The Hawks have made some improvements, but their D is still essentially speed based— we’ve only gotten bigger and stronger up front and their smallish linebackers and DBs should have trouble with guys like Crabtree, Morgan, and Vernon.

Offensively they’re going to be breaking in a rookie LT, and outside of possibly Tate there are no receivers over there who scare me so we should be able to really bring the heat against Hasselbeck.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on May 1, 2010 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

not to mention

the beef we have can RUN too. Iupati, Davis, Staley…these guys can get to the second level.

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gore Gore Gore

I think Sing is gonna try to establish our running attack and take the crowd out of the game. Gore can carry us to victory if we can run the rock.Play action is gonna be key. If we can take the pressure off of Smith and play our regular defense we should be successful. I’m a Irish fan and I’ve watch Tate his whole career at ND. The only way we can contain him with our particular corners is to jam him hard at the line of scrimmage and get some pressure on the QB. I hope Mays can get him an int or a very big hit causing a turnover to put it in Carroll’s face and set the tone for the season.

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on May 1, 2010 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

The main thing I am worried about for that game is...

two rookie offensive lineman having to deal with the crazy noise of that stadium. Snap counts, getting beat off the line because of having to watch the ball, etc will all be factors. If we can run, we will be okay I think. If not, it could be a long day.

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on May 1, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

if they don't drill silent count into the rook's heads

I’ll be pissed. knowing the first game is at Qwest, with half of the offense under 5 years experience…2 rookies on the OL (probably)…

If Sing and Co want to preach discipline, execution, etc…they better be ready for that noise. Turn the practice pseudo-crowd-noise up higher, move the speakers closer, tell the defense to all scream and yell…do it over and over and over until they get it right.

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too Drew, this is the scariest matchup for them.

We have a history of folding at that stadium and that crowd cheering as loud as they do even when the team sucks. they will be 0-0 and loud as hell, hopeully they are ready.

"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.

by rlott#42 on May 2, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can see Iupati tossing the Chicken's speed defenders around like rag dolls

in a game that quickly turns ugly. I gotta believe it happens that way. The team however better train like their storming Normandy

Niners O-Line: "Great Wall of Nine-uh"

by Tre9er on May 1, 2010 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate the fact that we still have to worry about the seahawks.

talk about a team that hasn’t won ANYTHING, and will never win ANYTHING. It has been too long since we won a super bowl. Let’s get back to the winning tradition please, and stop worrying about cinderella teams like the Seahawks and the Cardinals.

(end rhetoric)

by premthegrem on May 2, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Wait, really?

Yeah we’ve sucked the past two seasons, but prior to that the ’Hawks had four straight years of winning the division. That said, if the game were in S.F. you guys would definitely be favored, but Qwest is still tough for visiting teams.

Thank you, Walter Jones.

by thebyron on May 3, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

really dude?

winning the division is small fry comparing to winning five super bowls. Problem is football, like all sports, is a “what have you done for me lately” kind of a sport, and the niners have been one of the worst teams in the league in recent history. That doesn’t change the fact that we used to have a winning tradition that was only matched by Dallas and Pittsburgh (only teams with 5 or more super bowls besides us.) We weren’t worrying about Arizona in 1993, and nobody even cared about the seahawks back then, (AFC sucked to begin with, and seahawks were basically wild card dead-meat every time anyway).

by premthegrem on May 22, 2010 4:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

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