2010-2011 NCAA College Prospects: Quarterbacks
by Drew Kerr on May 1, 2010 2:00 PM PDT
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PrintAuthor's Note: Last year, before I became a Front Page Author, I posted a few pieces on the top college prospects at the very beginning of the college football season for '09-'10. This year, I wanted to do something similar but start it a bit earlier. There are roughly 22 positions (11 on each side of the ball) to focus on. Each week, leading up to the very first NCAA Football Game for the '10-'11 Season, I will take a look at one of the positions. Once I have finished reviewing every position, I will then start creating official college football discussion threads as a FanPost for those that care to talk about college football... or learn more for that matter; I know there were several people that benefited and learned quite a bit more about who was going to be entering the league this year. Each position will vary in the amount of players I cover. Number of players per position will range anywhere from 10-20 of the top prospects. I will be ranking them as to where I think they will be slotted in next years draft should they all enter. Mind you, these are just my opinions, but I feel that the rankings are going to be pretty close to the opinions of the rest of the Nation. I haven't seen any preseason player rankings yet, so it should be interesting to compare to once they come out.
This week, I will be kicking off this new segment with the Quarterback position... undoubtedly the most important position on the field. There are several young prospects at this position in the upcoming season that could pull in front of the other as it progresses. One thing is for sure, this years potential crop of quarterbacks seems on the surface to be a lot deeper than the one that just came out. In fact, the entire draft next year (depending on how many juniors declare) could be even deeper than the one we just had. This is certainly an exciting time to be a football fan.
This past draft was definitely interesting to say the least. Players like Tim Tebow who were slotted to go in the 2nd or 3rd Round got selected 25th overall by the Denver Broncos, and on the other side of the spectrum, a guy like Colt McCoy got selected in the 3rd Round when he was slotted to go toward the end of the 1st Round or Early 2nd Round. Point is, you just never know for sure where a player may or may not go in the draft.
Well, I feel that is enough introduction... after the jump, we'll take a look at the top NCAA Football Quarterbacks in order from 1-15.
1. JAKE LOCKER | 6'3", 226 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON - If Jake Locker would have declared for this past draft, it is hard to say whether or not the Rams would have gone with Sam Bradford. The pick could have gone the other way had Locker been in the picture. And the Jimmy Clausen's and Colt McCoy's could have slipped even further down the draft boards subsequently. Locker is coming off a career best season last year. He has the benefit of playing in a pro-style offense which will make him very appealing once entering in to the draft next year. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 155 | 328 | 2062 | 47.3 | 6.29 | 98 | 14 | 15 | 17 | 105.01 |
| 2008 | 50 | 93 | 512 | 53.8 | 5.51 | 48 | 1 | 0 | 10 | 103.55 |
| 2009 | 230 | 395 | 2800 | 58.2 | 7.09 | 51 | 21 | 11 | 28 | 129.75 |
2. ANDREW LUCK | 6'4", 235 LBS. | STANFORD UNIVERSTY - Luck has a really good opportunity this year to pass Jake Locker to be considered the number one quarterback in the nation. All eyes will be on these two finely tuned missile-throwing machines. With the departure of Toby Gerhart (the nations leading rusher), Luck will have more responsibility and more opportunities to fly high above the rest of the competition. Team wins will play in to the equation as well as how good he can take on adversity. Andrew Luck will definitely be a quarterback to keep your eye on if you are unfamiliar with him. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2009 | 162 | 288 | 2575 | 56.3 | 8.94 | 63 | 13 | 4 | 6 | 143.47 |
3. RYAN MALLETT | 6'7", 238 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS - I believe it was a very wise move for Ryan Mallett to stay for one more year. Some guys just need that. Not saying that Mallett wouldn't have still been a very high draft pick this year, but for developmental purposes, and maturity reason's, I think it was a great decision for him to remain a Razorback for another year. Mallett has a rocket of an arm, but he wasn't very consistent and was not the best in the accuracy department. If he can trudge through the season and stay relatively consistent, Mallett may surpass one of the top 2. The Razorback Quarterback was also originally a back up at University of Michigan before he transferred to Arkansas. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 61 | 141 | 892 | 43.3 | 6.33 | 97 | 7 | 5 | 12 | 105.69 |
| 2009 | 225 | 403 | 3627 | 55.8 | 9.00 | 83 | 30 | 7 | 24 | 152.52 |
4. JACORY HARRIS | 6'4", 190 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI - A little on the skinny side, but don't let that fool you. This kid has all the tangibles and intangibles a head coach could possibly want. He shows great pocket awareness and is a true quarterback first and foremost. His athletic abilities are there as a secondary weapon for the offense. He's extremely mobile but hangs in the pocket until the very last second going through his reads and progressions before he scrambles. By the end of the year, he could be very refined and polished ready to potentially start in the NFL. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2008 | 118 | 194 | 1195 | 60.8 | 6.16 | 41 | 12 | 7 | 11 | 125.77 |
| 2009 | 242 | 406 | 3352 | 59.6 | 8.26 | 69 | 24 | 17 | 34 | 140.09 |
5. ADAM WEBER | 6'3", 217 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA - Weber has started all three years up to this point for the Golden Gophers. He helped Eric Decker become one of the better rated receivers entering this past draft. He still has a few weapons at his disposal and I am sure will take full advantage this year. He shows excellent composure and great leadership during the game. He is a bit inconsistent as far as accuracy goes, but when he gets in to a rhythm, all bets are off. Weber could end up being a steal if he does in fact land as the 5th rated quarterback this year. He will need to have his best season to be slotted here but I have faith that he can get it done. (((Click Here For Higlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 258 | 449 | 2895 | 57.5 | 6.45 | 71 | 24 | 19 | 13 | 120.80 |
| 2008 | 255 | 410 | 2761 | 62.2 | 6.73 | 71 | 15 | 8 | 31 | 126.93 |
| 2009 | 191 | 367 | 2582 | 52.0 | 7.04 | 62 | 13 | 15 | 38 | 114.65 |
6. DAYNE CRIST | 6'4", 235 LBS. | NOTRE DAME - New Head Coach Brian Kelly recently said that an open competition would be held between Nate Montana (Joe Montana's oldest son) and front runner for the starting job Dayne Crist. While Kelly has said this, I think it is more of a formality than anything. Montana doesn't have the college experience to take the job from Crist who was there and filled in for an injured Jimmy Clausen a few times and looked extremely good doing so. However, Crist is coming off of a torn ACL and certainly has his work cut out for him. He very well could end up slotted higher or lower than this depending on how he does this year but I feel this is a good spot for him right now. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2009 | 10 | 20 | 130 | 50.0 | 6.50 | 64 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 111.10 |
7. JOHN BRANTLEY | 6'3", 217 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA - Initial reports and speculation are that Brantley is actually set up to be a better quarterback at Florida than Tim Tebow was. If that's the case, he has the potential to put himself in contention for a top pick as a quarterback. If you are speaking in terms of talent, Brantley is hands down better than Tebow. He has a much quicker natural release, better accuracy, and more composure in the pocket. He is all around the board a better quarterback. The Gators should be much more feared this year than they were last year despite alot of their key losses moving on to the NFL on both sides of the ball. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2008 | 18 | 28 | 235 | 64.3 | 8.39 | 38 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 163.00 |
| 2009 | 36 | 48 | 410 | 75.0 | 8.54 | 33 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 194.88 |
8. CHRISTIAN PONDER | 6'2", 219 LBS. | FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY - Ponder is a very intriguing prospect. He was banged up toward the end of the year but should bounce back this year and have an even better year than he was on track for last season. It wouldn't blow me away if Ponder threw for more than 3000 yards this year and threw for over 20 touchdowns. He has some very lethal weapons on offense to work with. Definitely a player worth taking note of. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 8 | 18 | 105 | 44.4 | 5.83 | 28 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 89.55 |
| 2008 | 177 | 318 | 2006 | 55.7 | 6.31 | 54 | 14 | 13 | 19 | 115.00 |
| 2009 | 227 | 330 | 2717 | 68.8 | 8.23 | 98 | 14 | 7 | 15 | 147.70 |
9. CASE KEENUM | 6'2", 210 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON - Houston runs a pass heavy offense and Case Keenum has racked up enough stats to build a skyscraper with. In his last two seasons, the Cougar Quarterback has thrown for 5000+ yards. He delivers the ball on time and with great touch. Keenum is definitely worth considering in the top 10 just due to his ability to lead his team. The Cougars only lost 3 games last year and in large part to this very gifted quarterback. Keenum, much like Ryan Mallett decided to return for one more year before entering the NFL Draft. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 187 | 273 | 2259 | 68.5 | 8.28 | 86 | 14 | 10 | 13 | 147.61 |
| 2008 | 397 | 589 | 5020 | 67.4 | 8.52 | 84 | 44 | 11 | 25 | 159.91 |
| 2009 | 492 | 700 | 5671 | 70.3 | 8.10 | 58 | 44 | 15 | 16 | 154.79 |
10. STEPHEN GARCIA | 6'2", 219 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA - There wasn't much buzz around the Gamecocks Quarterback last year, but I found myself asking "why?"... "why is this kid not getting more recognition?". Anyhow, maybe he will get more attention this year. He certainly deserves it. He plays the game with extreme passion similar to that of a Phillip Rivers or Brett Favre type of guy. He leaves everything on the field and plays the game with as much heart as I have seen from anyone. He is a bit rough around the edges but if he can introduce his intangibles to the necessary tangibles this season, he's due for a stand out season. (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2008 | 65 | 122 | 832 | 53.3 | 6.82 | 41 | 6 | 8 | 15 | 113.68 |
| 2009 | 239 | 432 | 2862 | 55.3 | 6.63 | 80 | 17 | 10 | 37 | 119.33 |
11. RICKY STANZI | 6'4", 218 LBS. | UNIVERSITY OF IOWA - (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0.0 | 0.00 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | -50.00 |
| 2008 | 150 | 254 | 1956 | 59.1 | 7.70 | 59 | 14 | 9 | 22 | 134.85 |
| 2009 | 171 | 304 | 2417 | 56.3 | 7.95 | 92 | 17 | 15 | 23 | 131.62 |
12. TYROD TAYLOR | 6'1", 216 LBS. | VIRGINIA TECH UNIVERSITY - (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 72 | 134 | 927 | 53.7 | 6.92 | 59 | 5 | 3 | 23 | 119.68 |
| 2008 | 99 | 173 | 1036 | 57.2 | 5.99 | 40 | 2 | 7 | 20 | 103.25 |
| 2009 | 136 | 243 | 2311 | 56.0 | 9.51 | 81 | 13 | 5 | 28 | 149.39 |
13. ANDY DALTON | 6'3", 215 LBS. | TEXAS CHRISTIAN UNIVERSITY - (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 222 | 371 | 2459 | 59.8 | 6.63 | 70 | 10 | 11 | 16 | 118.48 |
| 2008 | 182 | 307 | 2242 | 59.3 | 7.30 | 65 | 11 | 5 | 14 | 129.19 |
| 2009 | 199 | 323 | 2756 | 61.6 | 8.53 | 75 | 23 | 8 | 12 | 151.83 |
14. JERROD JOHNSON | 6'5", 243 LBS. | TEXAS A&M - (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2007 | 2 | 7 | 50 | 28.6 | 7.14 | 33 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 182.86 |
| 2008 | 194 | 326 | 2435 | 59.5 | 7.47 | 62 | 21 | 10 | 30 | 137.37 |
| 2009 | 296 | 497 | 3579 | 59.6 | 7.20 | 70 | 30 | 8 | 27 | 136.74 |
15. KELLEN MOORE | 6'0", 190 LBS. | BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY - (((Click Here For Highlights)))
| Stats Overview | Passing | |||||||||
| YEAR | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YPA | LNG | TD | INT | SACK | RAT |
| 2008 | 281 | 405 | 3486 | 69.4 | 8.61 | 80 | 25 | 10 | 13 | 157.11 |
| 2009 | 277 | 431 | 3536 | 64.3 | 8.20 | 67 | 39 | 3 | 5 | 161.65 |
So there you have it... the top 15 quarterbacks through my perspective. Feel free to voice your opinions and certainly add other quarterbacks that missed my list but you feel are worthy. Thanks for reading.
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Andrew Luck
I would caution people about Luck, though. I believe his numbers will actually dip this year, and it all has to do with the departure of Toby Gerhart. Gerhart was by far the most dominant rusher in the college game last year (despite a very East Coast biased Heisman vote) and was the primary reason for Stanford’s success. Luck did a good job at keeping the defenses somewhat honest, but even so, if you watch Pac-10 film, most teams continually stack the box. Luck had single coverage virtually all the time. With Gerhart gone, and apparently no one on their roster to take his place, defenses will key in on the young QB.
I’m not saying Luck is a bad college quarterback, or even that he won’t succeed in the NFL. But I predict that his draft stock may take a tumble out of the Top-5 after this next season is over.
Stepfan Taylor and Tyler Gaffney are two freshman running backs that may surprise a lot of people. The offensive line didn’t lose too many people and the holes that Gerhart was running through were pretty huge. I definitely have to disagree. Luck’s number’s will go up. Win’s are what he needs more than anything. They lost 5 games which included their Bowl Game against OU. If they can win a couple more games, I believe his stock should stay relatively the same.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
I really don't know
Those kids (rb’s) showed a bit of heart and some flashes of brilliance in Furd’s spring game. But, really, unless the Cardinal D just leaped ahead miles upon miles from where they ended last season (um, no), then I think it’s worthy to note that none of them really did much of anything in the red and white game. IMO, they’re still quite raw and not comfortable being patient to wait for blocks to set up and whatnot… Granted, Owusu was not catching passes from Luck to stretch the field, but the rb’s couldn’t break anything even in a possession game— I mean like nothing longer than a 15-20 yard run like maybe once or twice between all of them. I see potential, but nothing like the pure threats in the Pac-10 like Vereen, Antolin, James, or even Baxter.
That said, I’m looking for experienced Pac 10 LB’s to bottle up Luck a bit more than last year since Toby’s gone.
Beyond that, Luck’s arm really impressed me @ the scrimmage.
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
Nobody is going to stack against Luck which will let him have just about the same amount of time as he did last year. And despite your well-thoughtout opinion I just really believe that Taylor and Gaffney will carry the load just fine against the other Pac-10 teams. The only difference is that Luck will have to take more of the work load on but I think he’s ready for the challenge.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Scheme...
Those backs didn’t exactly strike me as downhill runners.
Not a good sign for a team that runs power all day.
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
I'm sure Harbaugh will adjust and tweek things as needed to fit the mold.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
and I'm sure the Luck/Owusu connection will be key...
not a Cardinal fan, but I hope Owusu gets better in order to keep Stanford competitive. Too many drops last year.
I think Luck has all the tools. He just needs a squad.
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
I’m not really even a Pac-10 fan… so I am there with you. But I think that he will have enough surrounding him to support a good year.
I basically fallow all the divisions pretty closely throughout the season, but I’m a huge Sooners fan and support the Big 12 (except for Texas) ……for obvious reason. Sort of like a Niners fan and a Cowboys fan, there’s a mutual dislike there.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
TEXAS FIGHT!
(You said Oklahoma)…
Anyways, Luck stats were bettered by the Cardinal’s supremely effective running game. Next year we’re going to see whether or not Luck can maintain his winning ways without Gerhart in the backfield. I’ve been impressed by Luck’s arm strength and accuracy. Now let’s see if they can carry more weight.
East coast bias??
Gearhardt’s team didn’t win much off of those numbers. The Heisman “winner” his team won a national championship and on his legs on offense.
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
Great post Drew, looking forward to all of these.
Locker is the first “number one” QB coming up in college that I actually feel deserves it. To me he’s a for sure hit, going to be fantastic. I also think Mallet will be a very good quarterback.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
Thanks
This year of college football should be pretty exciting. Not as exciting as the Niners but exciting none the less.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Definitely.
I’m going to be watching it closer than ever. Admittedly, I haven’t been as big on it as I’d like to be. I like that you’ve found your niche here and you’re able to put together these good articles.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
Mallet
He definitely needed to stay that extra season, when Rich Rod went to UoM, Mallet was the odd man out. After all, a 6’7 cement foot QB doesn’t fare well in Rich Rod’s spread attack. I’m pulling for Mallet to do well and progress, because I really, really hate Rich Rodriguez.
I don't really care for Rodriguez either...
but I have to say that he landed a pretty killer QB in Forcier.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Racist!
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 1, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on May 1, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
if hating Rich Rod is racist
you can call me Michael Richards.
by Andrew Davidson on May 1, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
The parody they did of that
on Curb your Enthusiasm was awesome
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 2, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Rodriguez is a D -BAG
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
I like the U of M guy the best
I think his draft grade drops because he is skinny. If Alex Smith plays anything below excellence we should draft him and mold him into our QBOTF
by manraj7 on May 1, 2010 4:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Jacoby Harris and Christian Ponder
are both going to rise, but the guys thats gonna have helium in his veins. Kid can ball. He shredded a great Texas D last year for over 30 points. He can throw and run. Just absolutely sick with it.
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
Jerrod Johnson
with the helium in his veins I meant.
Proud adoptee of Dick Tidrow the mastermind behind Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Buster Posey and many more. Also known as "The Reason".
I am so excited for the next draft already just because of the QBs.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
Hah!
But you guys have Charlie Whitehurst, man!
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
Pete Carroll: Jake Locker is the best QB I've ever played against
;)
Feels good man
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 2, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Your QBOTF is on your team, Mr. Whitehurst.
Besides, Carrol is hoping he has enough time to get his pet QB from USC.
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
Why would he bother waiting several years for Barkley?
Playing with fire will get you burned, it’s likely Carroll would get near fired by then without a franchise QB in place. Also, it’s not Barkley is some can’t-miss Peyton Manning prospect. He wasn’t even good last season.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 2, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ryan Mallett (Only QB who I am high on for now for the 2011 season)
Andrew Luck – 1. I have to see more of him. 2. He doesn’t use his legs enough throwing the ball(Kind of has a windup motion) 3. Gerhart and Harbaurgh definitely gave him a lot of help.
Pat Delvin – When he came in for PSU in pressure situations, always seemed poised. He’s known for having a strong arm and being fairly mobile. The knock on him, is the small school and he supposedly holds onto the ball too long.
Jake Locker – 1. Sarkisian offense makes any QB look good 2. He doesn’t progress his reads enough (Looks at one receiver, if it’s not there, he tucks it and runs)
Jacoby Harris – 1. Too much loft on his passes. 2. Needs to put on the weight
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
lol, Jake
He doesn’t progress his reads? Hopefully you remember that Washington lost ALL of their games in 08. How exactly does a college qb progress his reads when he’s flat on his back in 3 seconds?
Locker’s feet and his arm are lethal and not a byproduct of Sarkisian’s offense. If he stays healthy, he’ll be drafted first overall in 2011.
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
How exactly does a college qb progress his reads when he’s flat on his back in 3 seconds?
Had to have been less than that… 3 seconds is enough time to get a pass off. Try 1.5 or so.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Locker’s feet and his arm are lethal and not a byproduct of Sarkisian’s offense. If he stays healthy, he’ll be drafted first overall in 2011.
agree
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
right now i wouldnt take locker in the first round, if he comes out this year and puts up more than a 60% completion percentage then i would be tempted. Physical skills dont always equate to a good QB, look another 1st rd qb to come from a Washington college.
He hasn't had a 60 percent completion year in his career, and that is scary for any College QB being heralded as #1 overall.
However he took 28 sacks last season, and has little to NO talent around him and his numbers based on that is not enough to bounce him away from the idea of going that early.
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
Yah normally I'd be wary of it too
But he’s putting up those numbers playing for the circa 1990 Tampa Bay Bucs. His team is horrible but he still puts up decent numbers.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 2, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
its just when i think of QB’s that have gone in the 1st round and i see less than 60% completion rate it sets off a red flag in most cases for example take the drafts from 97 to 06 these are the QB’s taken in the first round with less than 60% comp rate: 1997 Jim Druckenmiller, Virginia Tech (Completion percentage: 54 percent) 1998 Ryan Leaf, Washington State (55 percent) 1999 Akili Smith, Oregon (58 percent) Cade McNown, UCLA (58 percent) 2001 Michael Vick, Virginia Tech (54 percent ) 2002 Joey Harrington, Oregon (59 percent) Patrick Ramsey, Tulane (57 percent) 2003 Kyle Boller, California (53 percent) Rex Grossman, Florida (57 percent) 2004 J.P. Losman, Tulane (59 percent) 2006
Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt (59 percent) Like i said if he comes out and throws for 63% completion rate with like 30 td to 10 int, then yeah i would think ok so its his supporting cast and maybe he is a first round prospect
2009 never happened?
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
Oh come on.
Sarkisian offense makes any QB look good 2. He doesn’t progress his reads enough (Looks at one receiver, if it’s not there, he tucks it and runs)
Sarkisian runs a pro-style offense, how does that ‘make any QB look good’? It’s not like he’s running some cartoon spread like Sam Bradford at Oklahoma. If anything, it’s a big selling point for Locker that he adapted to a pro-style offense so quickly after mostly being an option-rusher.
Also, the comment about his reads is absolutely wrong. If anything, last season he should have tucked it and ran more instead of checking the 3rd/4th reads.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 2, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Joke offense, spread, 5-wide, heavy shotgun etc.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 3, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Pryor didn't do well until "The Vest" put him in a Zone Read offense
plus as I’ve said before, Pryors tangibles say WR
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
Put you bias aside for a bit
He can play QB he needs a lot of work, but he can do it.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on May 2, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Not being bias
But if he’s unsuccessful in a college pro-style offense, how do you think he’ll do vs. the professionals
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
He is not unsuccessful, his coach is.
He isn’t developing him, he is just manipulating his offense around him to keep him on the field. he can be a QB and with his arm, why waste him at WR?
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
OSU doesn't have another QB right now
Jim Tressel wants to put his team in the best position to win. Which means using a zone-read offense, something that OSU is not known for, and this is all because Pryor is ineffective in a pro-style offense.
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
Keep in mind that his coach is a moron
He’s got the tangibles to play QB.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on May 2, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The only knock on him is that he hasn't won the "Big One"
and if expectations are that high for Tressel, then he must be doing something right.
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
how can you not love Prior?
kid blew up Oregon somethin turrible— and against all odds. He’s a player.
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
I was blown away by Ohio State's defense
Their offense did what they had to against the decent Duck defense. Nothing special there.
But for the buckeyes to shut down arguably the most diverse offensive attack in the country last season… wow.
that was a coming out party
for Prior. Agree on the D too.
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
You're all wrong!!!!!!!
There is a QB not on this list that will be the Niners QB next year.
HIs name is ALEX SMITH.
We are going to get a top CB prospect with our 1st pick next year QB will not be an issue.
Did you read the article?
Because if you had you’d know Drew was just highlighting college QBs to follow, not pointing out QBs that might be replacing Alex Smith
I was right, you were wrong.
Isn't that the point
of the article? Replacements for A Smith?
Well maybe he didn’t say it but it’s on most Niners fans minds.
No and no
The point of the article is to highlight the top college QBs. Future articles will highlight top college WRs, top college RBs, linemen, defensive linemen, etc., etc., etc.
I was right, you were wrong.
As it should be
At least until Smith shows he can play at an acceptable level.
by Brendan Scolari on May 1, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I really hope he does well so we don't have to look at unecessary comments like this anymore.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Let me rephrase… at an elite level… because he was playing at acceptable level last year and apparently some people will never be satisfied. I am not sure the second coming of Joe Montana would suffice for some.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Seriously...
Alex’s numbers were better than 90% of the years Super Bowl winning QB Trent Dilfer ever had.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 2, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Mallett!
The guy’s amazing. Would that he fall to a playoff team pick!
This is one of the most important discussion topics for Niners fans. With the OL addressed and the defense in good shape, QB (with CB) is the next big upgrade, and should be #1 and #2 next April. Thank you for starting this, Drew K!
Should be #1 and #2 with a big big asterisk.
If Smith blows us away, I want all the haters to shutup.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
Yes, let's hope we do NOT have to draft a QB!
As Ninjames keeps saying, it is better for THE TEAM for Smith to succeed. Let’s hope we get to choose a first round CB, not QB!
Also,
This way we can wait for 1 of those 3 to flop playing for a horrible team then we can bring him aboard for a 5th round pick and recreate Steve Youngs situation.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 2, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll gladly shut up
I don’t dislike Alex Smith at all. He was a tremendous QB coming out of Utah, and well worth the #1 overall pick. It’s just really unfortunate that he was thrown to the wolves immediately.
If his confidence hasn’t been totally and irreparably shattered, he can definitely emerge as a strong NFL quarterback. He certainly has the help on the line and skill positions that he didn’t when he started. So if he can regain some confidence, then the physical tools are still there. I’m just going to be quiet and not make a judgment call until about halfway through this upcoming season. I’m thrilled we used our two 1st round picks this year on offensive linemen.
On a somewhat related note, I’m happy that the cRams took Bradford as their #1. I just hope they’re dumb enough to start him from day one, and allow his confidence to get emotionally decapitated (or literally if Patrick Willis makes contact with his head).
And if Smith plays like last year
Will all the apologists shutup as well? I love how someone can get labeled a “hater” for calling a player who’s been bad what he is.
by Brendan Scolari on May 1, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
How exactly did Smith play bad last year?
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
YPA, DVOA, WPA
Basically any way you want to measure it, Smith comes out as solidly below average if not downright bad. How exactly did Smith play well?
by Brendan Scolari on May 2, 2010 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyway you cut it
Smith comes out in the middle of the pack.
Percentage completion—17th
Attempts per game—10th
YPG—20th
TD—19th
DYAR—24th (out of 46)
DVOA—28th (out of 46)
I don’t ever use WPA because winning in football is about far more than just the QB.
Looks pretty average to me which is what Drew was saying.
I was right, you were wrong.
Middle of the pack??
That’s around 16th, numbers in the 20’s are back half not middle.
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
It still will not leave him as a midle of the pack QB. I would imagine you would take into consideration that minimal attepts qualify QB's when discussing some statistics.
Smith was 10th in attempts per game and posted 24th DYAR and 28th DVOA, yeah it’s out of 46 players considered but why measure him toward the back half beyond 32 when essentially there are 32 starters at season’s beginning. That’s not a good ranking and middle of the pack seems more like making him sound better than he was. That is back half of the league IMO, somply because of the amount of games played. Look at the list of the 46 and see games played then the analysis would hold more weight, maybe then he is ranked 15-18 amongst QB’s that played half the season or more.
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
Not necessarily
because some of the quarterbacks that did not play alot could also be in the upper echelon as well as those who fell in to the back portion.
Besides that, I saw him play… despite stats (DYAR, DVOA) …and all of that crap, he played decent. At times he even played excellent. If he plays like that for the duration of the season hopefully a majority of the so-called “realists” or whatever will just stop finally.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
re:
Percentage completion—17th
Attempts per game—10th
YPG—20th
TD—19th
I wouldn’t use these stats to judge a QB really. And ranking in the 20’s is not middle of the pack (for a starting QB).
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah it is
when there’s more than 32 starting qbs in one season in the NFL
I was right, you were wrong.
Uhhhh... I'm not an apologist.
Are you labeling me as such? Because I’m not. If you ever read the Nuggets I’ve been one of the bigger Smith haters on this board. After last season I am now neutral and I can’t see why anyone would be any other way. I feel better about him now, better than I ever have about him, but I’m not an “apologist”.
So what exactly are you saying? About me, at least?
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
Only doing the same that you (and others) do to anyone that doesn't like Smith as a player
Put ridiculous labels on us to try to steer the argument away from any sort of substance.
This is a Niners blog, there are no Smith “haters”. I have absolutely nothing against Smith, I like the guy personally, he just has not played at an acceptable level for an NFL starting quarterback, and I hope the Niners will find a replacement next offseason unless he improves dramatically. For someone to label me (or anyone else who has similiar beliefs) a “hater” for wanting a bad player to be replaced (barring the aforementioned improvement) is just downright absurd. And if we’re going to have this ridiculous label, I suppose it’s only fitting that the people who are still in love with Smith have the other extreme.
by Brendan Scolari on May 2, 2010 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you should become a Raiders fan...
I think it would be much more gratifying for you
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
He played at a perfectly average level last year
same level as Matt Hasselbeck, better than Matt Ryan (who many regard as a future star).
He certainly didn’t play awful.
I was right, you were wrong.
He didn't play awful overall...
Starting games out – awful
playing from behind- sensational at times
he big drive- awful
Does he need OL improvement? Yes
Does another year in the system help? Yes
Can he be better? Yes
Am I 100 percent sure he will be better? No
Do I want him to succeed? Mos def
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
Matt Hasselbeck was ghastly last season.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 2, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Both Hasselback and Ryan were bad last year
And Smith wasn’t very much better.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Now Hasselbeck and Ryan are bad? Keep diggin’ yourself deeper.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
If you honestly think Matt Hasselback was not bad last year
You’ve sunk to new lows. The Seahawk fan right above just admitted as much, he was awful last year.
Those Raider fans like hurling insults instead of using logic too.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, you are
Anyone who thinks Matt Hasselbeck was good last year wasn’t watching football last year and just wants to be a nuisance.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re the nuisance… the only time you come around here is when you feel the need to talk ish… you absolutely contribute nothing positive to this site.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Over 3000 comments here at NN
I’m sure you’ve read them all too. Heck, you even know when and where I (don’t) watch football.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions
re:
Both Hasselbeck and Ryan were bad last year
Now Hasselbeck and Ryan are bad? Keep diggin’ yourself deeper.
Really, READ. I know you’re not that stupid, it’s a one sentence comment. Read it.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Were bad for one year
Does not equal bad players, period.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Ryan had a bad season,
and Hasselbeck was absolutely awful.
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 3, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Ryan had a bad season noncontextually. For a second-year starter he was perfectly fine, if maybe a little behind where he should be on the curve.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 3, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
this
Nail on the head…….
I’m not a Smith hater, but I am not drinking the Kool-Aid just yet.
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
I didn't put a label on you.
Where did I do that? I said Smith haters, of which there are many. Did I say you? Was it in reply to you? You always true and argue semantics and wordplay with me and this time I really don’t see where you’re going. When I was at the draft party I had this one guy, this one idiot behind me screaming at the top of his lungs for the team to draft any quarterback at all because Smith was the worst QB in the league, only better than JaMarcus Russell. That’s what I’m talking about.
Didn’t call you out. I don’t have a problem with people who don’t like him. Who think we need a new QB. That’s fine. I have a problem with the haters, if you’re a hater, you know who you are.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
Plus again...
…I’m not a Smith lover. I don’t even like Smith. I’ve said that so many times it’s not even right.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
My bad then
I just don’t see who the “haters” are, but I guess they’re out there.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You really need to read things before you write
It will save you from these kinds of embarassing comments.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s only embarassing for you.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Personal insults over a disagreeent on QB rankings on a football blog
Should be embarassing to us all.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:37 AM PDT up reply actions
No dude
you turned it personal. When you learn how disagree with respect, then I’lll learn how to respond with respect. Deal? I seriously will not hold my breath though.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
How was I disrespectful exactly?
Really, quote the spots where I was disrespectful. And then I can quote all the insults you hurled at me.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions
If you can’t figure it out, that’s your own issue to deal with. Maybe if you go back up and read through the string of comments, it might just jump out at you. Or maybe you’re so arrogant that you actually believe that your opinion would superceed God’s in an argument.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
When people disagree with me, I have no problem with that. I have had very civil discussions with SEVERAL people on this board who disagree with respect. When you learn how to do it, maybe someday that could happen as well… but as I said above… not going to hold my breath because I actually think you get some sort of sick satisfaction out of causing this sort of thing.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
There are 49ers fans outside of Niners Nation.
I wasn’t speaking to any particulars on here my man.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
NT aas well
and I agree with ya Ninny I hope he does blow us away and hope that shuts the negative nellies up.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on May 8, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you've got Christian Ponder and Jerrod Johnson much too low
I’d rank them #4 and #5, right after the big three (Locker, Mallett, and Luck). I’d also put Blaine Gabbert and Pat Devlin right after those two and you don’t have them listed. I don’t understand how you can have guys like Crist and Brantley, who haven’t even played, or someone like Weber who was awful last year (all three years really), ranked near any of those guys.
by Brendan Scolari on May 1, 2010 10:51 PM PDT reply actions
Because they will emerge. I don’t exactly see anything special in Gabbert or Devlin for them to be worthy of this list. They are both Case Keenum without the stats. They also both have only had one decent year.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
re:
They are both Case Keenum without the stats.
Wrong, they’re both better prospects than Case Keenum, without the stats. Much better arms, bigger frames, Keenum’s more of a Graham Harrell/Chase Daniel type who can do really well in the spread but isn’t a great pro prospect.
by Brendan Scolari on May 2, 2010 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions
But it's true
Keenum is this year’s Tony Pike
"Mayhap a hidden door lurks nigh. Let us search the environs."
by Fearless Frog on May 2, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Well then I guess that makes
Gabbert and Devlin this years Mike Kafka and Jonathan Crompton.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
You're right
Another winning argument.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re making a real break through here. Proud of ya!
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Dude, you're the one who has no argument
Go look at anyone’s analysis of next year’s QB class, and find me one that has Weber ranked above guys like Ponder and Johnson. Seriously.
Hey look, here’s a post from today by John Morgan of Field Gulls about next year’s QB class. Funny, he lists Locker, Mallett, Devlin, Luck, and Gabbert as possible 1st rounders (and after that has Ponder, Keenum, Johnson, and Pryor as possibilites). But you’re right, no one knows what they’re talking about but you, Gabbert, Devlin and Ponder are just bums compared to the great Weber, Crist, and Brantley.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude we’ll frikin’ see, won’t we? John Morgan? Who? And who cares? Really? That’s your best? Gimme a frikin break dude.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Again
Show me ONE place that has Weber ranked ahead of those guys. ONE.
I could pull out all sorts of links but I’d just be wasting my time. Check any draft site. But will you? No.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine!!
I really couldn’t care less what you have to say. These are preseason ranikings. Obviously the season hasn’t kicked off, so really? You really want to argue something that hasn’t happened yet? Get a life bro
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
re:
I really couldn’t care less what you have to say.
That’s exactly the point. You couldn’t care less about what anyone has to say, that EVERY single person doing any kind of analysis would disagree with your rankings. But you still won’t admit you’re wrong or even try to look at things from a different point of view.
You really want to argue something that hasn’t happened yet?
I thought that was the point of the post. Did you want us to just all write “agreed” and be done with it?
Get a life bro
Thanks for the life advice sir. And you stay classy and professional, as always.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:30 AM PDT up reply actions
How the F can I be wrong? The season hasn’t begun.. it is a preseason ranking… is it really that hard for you to process? Honestly I think it is.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
So if I say
San Jose State will have a better football team than Alabama am I not wrong because it’s preseason? Or can I still make a really poor prediction?
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:39 AM PDT up reply actions
No it's not
Just because it’s preseason doesn’t mean you can’t make a faulty prediction. Some of your rankings are silly in my (and apparently anyone else who has bothered to look at the QB prospects) humble opinion.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions
No, you got me… I just threw a bunch of random names out there. In fact, I just pulled them from a hat.. good call… I didn’t spend but 3 min’s putting all this stuff together.
Maybe you should take over for me since I do such a crappy job.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Like magnet said quit trolling
If you have nothing real to say then bounce.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
So let's see
I dispute your points, you hurl insults, and then you think I’ve got nothing real to say? Interesting.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions
You seriously have issues dude
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
You seriously
Need to to stop embarassing yourself. This is a fricken football site, relax.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I am totally relaxed… I am actually enjoying you making a mockery of yourself. Quite entertaining to tell you the truth. Anytime you come around… the thread goes to hell, so… By now, I am used to it.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
You just said I had issues
Because I disagreed with your preseason QB draft rankings. Something is wrong with how you define relaxed.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:40 AM PDT up reply actions
So basically what I read from your comment is… you read the stat lines above and think you’re an expert…. stats are EVERYTHING and nothing else matters….etc, etc, etc… okay. Disagree with your stand, but it’s basically what I have been used to in reading your comments since day one of posting on NN. I wonder if you have even seen any of the Qb’s on the list actually play… because it seems like you are basing everything you are saying off a stat-line.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
re:
So basically what I read from your comment is… you read the stat lines above and think you’re an expert….
Completely wrong, and it’s a pretty silly to make such a baseless assumption. I’ve seen most of the guys on the list play. In fact I’ve seen all of them except Weber, Crist, and Brantley, and the latter two haven’t played anyway. I’d bet I’ve seen them as much, probably more, than you have.
stats are EVERYTHING and nothing else matters….etc, etc, etc…
Again, you’re way, WAY off base. Stats don’t mean everything when evaluating college prospects. You’re ranking marginal pro prospects like Keenum ahead of guys with worse stats but who are better fits for a pro offense, so it seems to me that you’re the one who’s going off of stats. If you’ve ever seen Gabbert or Jerrod Johnson you know they are a lot more likely to be successful in the NFL than quite a few guys on your list. And there’s absolutely no way Christian Ponder (a guy who has a good shot at being a 1st rounder) should be ranked behind guys who haven’t even started in college yet.
I wonder if you have even seen any of the Qb’s on the list actually play… because it seems like you are basing everything you are saying off a stat-line.
This is coming from the guy who compared Ryan Mallett to Philip Rivers, and then actually tried to defend the comparison. Forgive me if I question whether you’ve actually seen the guys play.
by Brendan Scolari on May 2, 2010 3:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Everyone bow down to Brendan Scolari… the all-knowing…all-mighty king of knowledge proves everyone wrong guy. Hail to the king!!!
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
I’ve watched more college football in one season than you probably have in your lifetime. Or so it appears.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
You're right
Another assumption grounded in fact, because surely you’d know how much college football I watch. Seriously, you’re making a fool of yourself.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s quite evident in your commenting that you don’t watch a lot. I’d say its quite the safe assumption
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Really
It’s so funny when a guy is just flat out wrong but thinks he’s being witty. But hey, how can I dispute you when you just make things up? I guess I’ll put a camera in my house next football season, turn it into a youtube series or something…
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions
There wasn’t much buzz around the Gamecocks Quarterback last year, but I found myself asking “why?”… “why is this kid not getting more recognition?”.
You answered your own question with the stats you laid out below that comment. A 55% completion percentage and 6.6 YPA is just horrible for college. You won’t see many QB’s drafted with those kinds of numbers.
by Brendan Scolari on May 1, 2010 11:22 PM PDT reply actions
We'll see about that this year.
If Tebow can get drafted as high as he did on sheer will with no tangible talent, then a guy like Garcia who has better tangibles and just as good of intangibles should be able to get drafted. But hey, you always think you’re the expert, so…
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
re:
If Tebow can get drafted as high as he did on sheer will with no tangible talent
Umm, Tebow has quite a bit of talent. NFL caliber arm, good size, and decent mobility and accuracy. He has a lot of issues too, and I personally think he was still a pretty big reach at pick #25, but to say he only has intangibles is just an incorrect statement.
But hey, you always think you’re the expert, so…
You’re right, I’m just a big jerk, I wish I could be as humble as you Drew. You’re always so willing to admit you’re wrong and you’re never rude, gosh I should just start taking notes. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on May 2, 2010 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Why are you trolling on Drew?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on May 2, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Drew does a great job
Of trolling on himself.
by Brendan Scolari on May 3, 2010 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Tebow's accuracy sucks and his arm is not NFL caliber any more than Shaun Hill's is
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 2, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
His accuracy does suck but his arm is much, much more NFL caliber than Hill's
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
You go strolling through the crowd like Peter Lorre... contemplating a crime.
His deep balls tend to flutter though
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on May 2, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
If you read what Daniels is saying about him, he will be fine and won't have to face 9 in the box.
He at least has a leg up on Hill.
"Singletary Football". To me, Singletary Football isn’t whether it’s on the ground or in the air. It’s about execution, discipline, and the mental toughness that will help predicate success.
What, no Kevin Rile....
Oh man. I couldn’t finish typing that with a straight face.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
now there's a kid who needs some help
or at least a backup plan for 2011.
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
Kevin Riley: He should have been awesome. And he would have been, too, if he didn’t suck so much.
Kevin Riley gives me a sad. I was so very, very optimistic about him. The insane part of my membrane actually thinks he just might possibly figure things out his senior year and lead Cal out of the desert. But the other 95% of my membrane knows that’s not going to happen.
But 2011, that’s going to be Cal’s year. Just you wait. Just you wait….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on May 2, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions
or maybe 2012
when Hinder and Maynard are settled in to the playbook a little more…
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
sorry, that should have been a reply, my bad
doh!
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
Omission
Russell Wilson, NC State
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
Watch him go pro in baseball instead
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
Really there isn’t a whole lot wrong with him. Sometimes he gets a bit jittery in the pocket, but toward the back portion of the season, he held his composure a lot better. He really will need to pack on a few pounds. I hope he went on a high-cal diet this offseason and hit the weight rooms heavily. 10 LBS would be ideal for him going in to the ‘10-’11 season. He needs to be at least 210 heading in to the NFL at 6’4".
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
I really like that guy
The plays that I saw he checked down his receivers and waited until it was necessary to scramble. If he had to scramble he kept his head up and looked for the pass before running. I want this guy badly, especially if Smith doesn’t work out. Because if we can develop him and not throw him to the wolves then this guy could be really really good.
Here's what Mel's got for his top 5 at the moment.
1. Jake Locker
2. Andrew Luck
3. Ryan Mallett
4. Christian Ponder
5. Case Keenum
by ChesapeakeBay9er on May 9, 2010 5:58 AM PDT reply actions
Kellen Moore at 15th top quarterback
Kellen Moore should be in the top 5 of college quarterbacks and may be the best one. He may know more about football and quaterbacking then anyone ever has at his age. He has been studying film since he was a little kid. His dad is a high school football coach. He is obsessed with it and getting better and is way ahead of anyone his age. He maybe the John Stockton of football. They used to say John Stockton knew better than anyone in basketball exactly when to pass, shoot and dribble. Kellen knows better than anyone in college football exactly where to step, when to pass and who to pass to. Combine this with his quick release and accuracy and you have the quaterback who will likely lead the nation in passing efficiency and accuracy. He is only a junior but has two full years of college quaterback experience. He may even have a shot at Pro football even though he is only six foot. He could be another Drew Breeze.
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