49ers Profiles: Ted Ginn Jr.
Ninjames' Note: Hey guys, sorry it took me a bit to get this up, it was supposed to go up about an hour ago but I wasn't home in time. That being said, here's another edition of my 49ers profiles. Sorry folks, no catchy title this time, mostly because I couldn't think of something catchy without being particularly rude. This is my fourth one, which leaves me somewhere around 76 to go. Today is Ted Ginn Jr.
The 49ers recently acquired Ted Ginn Jr from the Miami Dolphins. His arrival was a mixed bag as far as reactions are concerned. Some had high hopes of what he could bring to the team, and others heeded the warnings from various Dolphins fans who were... rather eager to weigh in on the situation and weren't so hot about it. Make the jump to see what I've got to say about him.

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Ginn had a very productive high school career. It's not something to base everything on, but I always find it interesting to see how much potential a player had at the time. As a defensive back and a wide receiver, Ginn was made USA Today's 2004 defensive player of the year, a 2004 parade all-american, the 2004 super prep national defensive player of the year and participated in the US Army All-American Bowl, where he was named the MVP. As a senior, he intercepted eight passes and returned five of those for touchdowns.
Ginn was a very hyped player in college. He was recruited by OSU and saw limited time as a freshman, but still compiling decent receiving and rushing yardage while taking four punts for touchdowns. He was made a starter for his sophomore season and had good totals, including a couple special teams touchdowns. In his Junior season, he did even better, finishing with 781 receiving yards and another 706 yards on special teams. He had two more special teams touchdowns that year, including one taken on the opening kickoff in the 2007 BCS National Title Game.
In his college career Ginn received All-American honors as a returner twice, All-American honors as an all-purpose player twice, and All-Big Ten once. This was all good enough to make Ginn the 9th overall pick in the 2007 draft by the Miami Dolphins. It didn't turn out to be a great pick.
After being booed on draft day when the Dolphins passed on Brady Quinn, by fans, players an analysts alike, Ginn set out to prove people wrong. He didn't do much in his rookie season, but he did get voted to the pro bowl as an alternate kick returner. 2008 was a better year for Ginn, but he began to have a case of the dropsies. Balls would hit him directly in the hands and they'd end up on the ground. He'd put himself in good position right on the sideline, but never really seemed to get "it" as far as playing wide receiver in the NFL goes.
Ginn had a breakout game against the Indianapolis Colts in 2009, where he caught 11 passes for 108 yards... but also dropped two very catchable touchdown passes. The drops continued, and Ginn was demoted to a backup role. He then took out his frustrations by returning two kicks of at least 100 yards for touchdowns in week 8 against the New York Jets. Ginn was given more time as a receiver after that, but continued to struggle as a wide receiver and eventually became slightly ineffective in the return game.
So he was traded, to us, the 49ers--to hopefully be a kick returner, and maybe even a decent wide receiving deep threat. Who knows at this point? One thing to note is that Ginn had arguably his best game as an NFL player against the New York Jets as a returner when he was... fired up! Maybe what it takes for Ted Ginn is to have something to motivate him? He was angry, frustrated, and eager to show his skills, so he did. Not as a receiver, but as a kick returner. Much is said about Coach Singletary and his ability to motivate, so it's definitely something to think about.
So we do have a wide receiver with a case of the dropsies and is probably a little inconsistent in the return game, albeit a threat on every attempt. He's athletic, that's for sure, his lowest unofficial 40 yard dash was rumored to be around 4.22 and in his high school days he won numerous awards for track, sprinting, hurdles and the like. He was initially recruited in college to be a track star and qualify for the 2008 Olympics but he chose football instead.
One other thing I've been wondering--when you take Ginn's hands into consideration.. I know it was only high school, but Ginn was a very productive defensive back and didn't really show that much ability as a receiver going into college. What if Ginn had devoted his natural athleticism for being a defensive back as opposed to a wide receiver? It's obviously too late in the development now, but I have to wonder if we wouldn't have a beast of a cornerback on our hands right now if he just stuck to playing as a DB and being a returner. Just something ot think about.
Ginn also has a learning disability, he has admitted to as much and had professed that it takes him two to three times longer to learn things than normal. One of his problems in his rookie season in the NFL was that they handed him a full playbook before he got on the field, why not give him some simple routes and let the athleticism take over? Another thing to wonder is whether or not that stunted his initial growth, perhaps if we start him out slow and are a little patient over here, Ginn could develop into something more. Just a thought.
Here's a highlight video of Ginn's... may want to mute it, unless this song is your thing. :]
Ted Ginn Highlight Film (via playmea)
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goatfather went to the practice a couple days ago
and said that Ginn was dropping passes left and right…. Which to me, is a bit concerning.
Here’s to hoping Jones has a break out year, cause it looks as though Ginn may only be an asset on ST’s.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
More like...
Here’s to hoping Hill has a break out year. :]
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I like Jones better
former OU guy
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Pfft whatever Drew.
I hate you now. :[
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It's OK.
I’ll just go pay homage to my Jason Hill shrine and I’ll like you again.
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Ummm...
You shouldn’t like someone better because of where they went to school. Honestly, neither one of them are legit receiving threats in my book. Hill has the better chance because he has already shown flashes during games while Jones has been injured. Just sayin…
by crumpedup15 on May 19, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
It’s perfectly OK to like a player based on where they want to go to school. In the end, and I’ll speak for Drew here knowing full well he’d say the same thing, in the end he wants the player who performs the best to make the roster. He isn’t saying “I hope Jones makes it no matter what.” He’s saying “I hope Jones is the guy who shows he has what it takes and makes it.”
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by James Brady on May 19, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
plus 1, Jones cost too much, I'd like to see him go.
There's no Santa Clause?? I'm going on a rage infuriated streak!!
I didn't say anything about wanting him to go...
I want him to break out year and earn his keep.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
I dont think James was saying that either...
at least I think.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
I don't think so either, but in order for Hill to breakout he has to play more than Jones,
If he does why hold the contract?
There's no Santa Clause?? I'm going on a rage infuriated streak!!
Best man for the job...
If Jones plays better in preseason… or Hill… or even Ginn Jr. for that matter, then that guy should be slotted as the third receiver. Money should NOT be the deciding factor of who plays or who doesn’t… that shouldn’t even be on our minds. We are fans… let the 49ers FO worry about that.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
We need to resign players for our future so as fans there are times to woryy about money wasted.
Goldson, Davis, Smith, and we have two first rounders to sign and it’s always nice to have money for FA. What I am saying is based on where the player is slotted on the depth chart is first and if Jones can’t win #3 why keep him? We have Williams and Hill and IMO, both are better, I am not looking at this using Oklahoma bias. Why pay a WR the second highest of WR’s maybe first, and he only be the fourth WR, that’s wasting money. Fans shouldn’t look to the future and shouldn’t care about contracts and whi is being paid, but we post about it here quite often? That is mind boggling, oh wait, no it isn’t. He’s from OU.
I like Jones better
former OU guy
Seriously man, how can you respond in that manner with responses like this??
There's no Santa Clause?? I'm going on a rage infuriated streak!!
biases, if any, should be slight
if everyone is on the exact same level in terms of play on the field, then yeah, money or some other form of preference may come into play. (by the way I’m agreeing with you)
none of us want to see someone stay on the team who wasn’t better than the guy who didn’t.
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Are you serious drew?He's still going through that because he's catching everything in that highlight lol,
but man is he trying 2 hard he’s on a new team and we gave up a draft pick 4 him he could be pressing 2 much,and we can’t take 1 bad practice and ’’crucify’’him.I hate 2 use him as a anology and by now way am i compareing him 2 him but, jerry rice went thru a rough patch where he was dropping alot of passes,and again i am now way saying ginn is like rice im just saying it happens even 2 the best of them
Plus i think jason hill will win that 3rd reciever spot anyway he knows the system already and this is a make or break
season 4 hill 2 and i think he’s going 2 have a break out season.Hey did you NFL total access they were talking about alex smith and josh morgan was saying alex was barking out plays says he looks way more confident then b4 he actually said something like ‘’who is this man’’i know its only OTAs but it still good 2 know?
hink the jury is in on Ginn's Wide Receiver Skills
He has the dropsies. It may be something he can overcome by building confidence in him. The way to do that is to let him succeed at returner and running reverses and easy passes like screens. If he can have some success perhaps he will lose the dropsies. When he was with the Fins, he was trying too hard to live up to that 1st round selection. Now he really has no pressure. He can just go out and perform and help the team any way he can. He isn’t a “Go To” guy. He would be the 3rd option at best on any given play. So he can run a lot of interference doing fly patterns up the middle of the field to draw coverage to him while Crabtree and Davis catch passes underneath the zone. They can throw to him occasionally to make sure the defense is guarding him. He might even catch a pass or 2. I really like his return game and it looks like he can take it to the house on any given play.. I’m sure the Niners will find a way to use Ginn. Not as a centerpiece, but as a complementary piece.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
You know what's worse than not catching a pass though?
Not catching a screen pass. Not saying that will happen to Ginn, but more of something I cannot stand.
But I agree that Ginn has a chance to restart his career by having little pressure on him, so hopefully he takes this opportunity to prove that he can be a big time playmaker.
by ZeroOneInfinity on May 18, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
deep threat
yeah, if you have a guy who at least catches more than he drops…and can burn the defense deep…that helps keep them honest. They’re not going to let him go wide open, ya know?
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Ya
I think Ginn’s value will be as a return man and running reverses out of the slot.
by crumpedup15 on May 19, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I just signed up
to tell you STOP saying sorry Ninjames, I started a game of drinking a shot every time you write "sorry"and I’m turning into an alcoholic.
Force of habit.
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I sense a psychological issue
Would you like to sit on an e-couch, drink some kool-aid and discuss this with me?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on May 18, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
My parents never established boundaries.
I’m sorry. No I mean.. well.. sorry. I guess I’m just trying to say.. sorry. Sorry.
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the biggest concern as a fin fan,wasn't so much his drops,
as it was his running out of bounds to avoid contact. We hoped and hoped that he could live up to this potential, but it never happened more than 1 week in a row. He constantly left yardage on the field, just to avoid c:itontact. I hope he plays more “manly” for you guys, but I wouldn’t count on it. Although, we seem to be pretty good at trading away guys that find “it” on another team.
Hmmm...
As another Fin fan, I disagree. I was very much concerned with his drops. Because they always came when it mattered. If the pressure was on, or we needed a big play, guaranteed Ginn would get hit right in the hands and drop the ball. Every single time. Everyone has seen the “Drop it Like Its Hot” Ginn Low-Light video….well look at the down and distance markers, and times of the game…. he’s always making bad plays when we needed him to step up.
I do however agree with his unwillingness to fight for the extra yard. He’d run out of bounds on 3rd and 9 after gaining 8 yards. He is absolutely afraid of contact. Even on his long returns, if he doesn’t have a clear running lane he goes down. The 2nd one against the Jets last year was the best he’s EVER done successfully avoiding contact…unfortunately he normally runs backwards trying to get around the coverage and it affects his yardage.
We Fin Fans even had a catchy nickname for him…..Ginnja. which is sacrilege to the Ninja.
Hopefully you guys can turn him in a better Welker… I don’t wish ill will on anyone, but god this guy pissed off fans.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Also as a side note
Many Dolphin fans thought Ginn would perform much better if he had a true #1 opposite him on the field drawing away coverage. He never had that in Miami obviously, and his talent/skill isn’t going to survive when he’s expected to be a #1 (like we tried in Miami), but perhaps with Crabtree and Davis drawing coverage, he can get into a 1 on 1 foot race from time to time and get you some big gains (if he doesn’t drop them).
Also, he is horrible against the jam (the whole afraid of contact thing). Hopefully you guys work him to death on it…
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Thanks for that insight
I am trying not to become enthusiastic about the Ginn trade, but more so I can set my standards low. Bad on the jam, bad hands, and avoids contact. That speed better be unreal. I would also like to know where you guys used him most of the time? He looks like he would play in mostly the slot (outside of ST that is) so hopefully he can avoid more jams.
I would also like to know how you felt about the trade. Do you think the 49ers gave up too much, were you just happy to get anything for him, etc? And you will not offend if you do think the Dolphins got the better end of the deal.
by ZeroOneInfinity on May 18, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Ginn played mostly outside
He was our #1 guy until we benched him and relegated him to strictly special teams for a few games. A good thing to note, is in college he ran a total of 4 routes, and all of them were deep where he could outrun the defenders.
When he reaches top end, there isn’t a Dback in the league that can catch him… but he doesn’t have that quick acceleration, he needs several steps unobstructed to get there, so you rarely see it unless a play has been extended. He worked a lot on his routes last year prior to the season and looked faster out of his cuts on the practice field, it just didn’t translate to the field. It could have been in game situations, he just over thought it….
As far as the trade goes, despite everything I’ve said about his downfalls, I was disappointed. Like I mentioned, many of us felt he’d be a much better asset if he had a true #1 opposite, so with Marshall coming in, we were hopeful. But, I, like most fans, have been really making excuses for Ginn for a long time now….hoping he changes….. The truth is, he was probably going to be cut if we didn’t get anything for him. So I’m happy to at least get the 5th rounder… but, part of me still thinks that someday he’ll get it and become a great deep threat….. if someone can teach him to hold onto the ball.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
if he get's single coverage on a less-than blazing DB though
I would think you throw the rock and let him run under it though, right?
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Unless its Press Coverage
If you read the Press Coverage, then Ginn doesn’t come into the play at all. But, if its not Press, and he’s got a 1 on 1 situation with most DBs, you throw it deep and hope its one of ones he decides to catch, as he’ll outrun the defender.
But even a wide open in the hands catch isn’t a given with Ginn…. Personally I say make him run routes and fire off a thousand footballs at him until his hands soften up a bit.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
he should have them throw footballs at him
like the old “Think fast!” deal we’d do as kids. Surprise! A football’s coming at you! just like throughout the day, in the locker room, meetings, just peg him with footballs.
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Yup, it wouldn't hurt...
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Fr8Train
i read your signature thing there and it says “bought a box of condoms…it’s gonna be a long night for my wife.”
question: if your married, why the hell are you using condoms???
...Really?
I mean no offense but uh.. really? Married doesn’t mean someone wants kids, and if they do, they don’t want surprises.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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Or maybe
Fr9Train is just very sensitive. Some would say that’s a plus.
Some may call it premature. I just call it ecstasy.
by ZeroOneInfinity on May 18, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeeeah..
not really the place for this stuff lol.
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lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY
Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, outside of soccer.
ever heard of birth control?
guess not.
ditching condoms is the best part of being married! haha
It's not always that simple, my man.
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I can attest
the only way we were able to ditch condoms was to ditch my vas defrens being connected to itself.
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You must be fairly young.
Not every girl can take Birth control. Even with all the different prescriptions, it can lead to other issues. My wife has gone thru them all, and its gone from absolutely having no sex drive (which sucks), to her “spotting” constantly (which sucks), to her skin breaking out horrible….(which sucks)…. There was no BC script that worked.
So, condoms it is.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
Ummm....don't want kids yet.
and the wife’s birth control screws up her skin something fierce…..so, condoms it is.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
sorry about my posts
it is a misread i didnt see the diffrence in a post and a shot just trying to liven up the crew!
It's all good!
hot dang!
on a somewhat related note…hows about Crabtree? Hotgum that boy has some surefire hands! it’d be quite a sight to see crabs mentoring the vet in the ways of catching with his hands.
I watched the fins vs pats replay last night on NFL channel..
Ginn reminded me of Brandon Lloyd going over the middle. Not sure how well that’s going to go over with Singletary, The players, the media and Niner fans.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
If it's true....
he has a learning disability .. maybe we could get him some que card’s , one with a football and one with hand’s and one with a football in his hand’s …!!
Kewl
lmao... messed up..
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It's no different than what the Jets did with Sanchez to try to get him to stop throwing interceptions.
A color coded quarterback
The Post W'Rec'ker
by Choose your screen name: on May 18, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I just hope they realize he's not a good WR before the season starts
I don’t want to see him get targeted 50 times this season, only to see him catch 20 of those with 15 drops.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
Ginn should be one thing on offense and one thing only..
..a really, really fast scapegoat. :]
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Sorry about the Sharkies James.
Did you see anywhere on how fast Ginn ran 100 meters if he was that good in track?
by Rod Blogojevich on May 18, 2010 9:43 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
10.02 unofficially.
And I’m OK with it. I will keep the faith. Sharks in seven.
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by James Brady on May 18, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Ginn has world class speed...on a track.
No doubt about it.
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
reports are that Candlestick is getting a track lane installed along the right hash
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He'll be the faster person in warmups on your team :)
lol
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
no I mean on the field...a track lane
Ginn will line up on the track lane (all-weather) and just run fly routes down it at 10.02 per 100m.
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this will require precision accuracy from the QB though
they’ll have to work on this route at a track after practices.
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lol, if only
So there I was.....asleep when it happened.....the buzzing of the blackberry woke me up....still groggy, I rubbed my eyes, and read the incoming email.
BRANDON MARSHALL IS A DOLPHIN!
Then I had a beer....took the day off work, and bought a box of condoms.
Its going to be a long night for my wife.
hopefully
Singletary works some magic and he becomes one of those project player breakouts ala VD.
Amen, brother.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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I still LOL when I read "VD" and "breakout" in the same sentence...
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by Tre9er on May 19, 2010 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
go up...there's another that may be better...
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This thread has had it all
VD, breakouts, condoms and balls dropping LOL
by ChesapeakeBay9er on May 19, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Something tells me the QOTD is going to come from somewhere in this thread. . .
88 days to go. . .And contrary to popular belief, sadly I do not have ESP.
it should have
but James is looking for “pure” humor…whatever that means. I think we should secede from his union and form our own COTD…
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