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San Francisco 49ers 2010 OTAs: Day 3 look at the defense

The 49ers wrapped up their third day of OTAs this week, and have provided a transcript from defensive coordinator Greg Manusky. Manusky seems quite excited about some of the developments of this week of practice, particularly amongst the young guys. As always, we can only take so much out of non-padded practices, but any positive development is a good step forward.

What I found most interesting was that he seems to be happy with the development of second year defensive tackle Ricky Jean-Francois:

On whether he's committed to having DT Ricky Jean Francois as the backup NT or whether DT Isaac Sopoaga will compete:

"That's what we do. We have Isaac working behind Ricky Jean. It's the same situation with [NT] Aubrayo [Franklin] not being here. It gives his opportunities and ability to play in the National Football League and see the reps and see what he needs to work on, which is great for Ricky Jean. And he's doing a pretty good job." 

On whether he likes what he sees from Jean Francois:

"Yes, so far. Yes, very well."

Obviously take it for what it's worth, but RJF could take a step forward and become a solid backup option for Aubrayo Franklin, I'd be a very happy camper. As he currently stands, RJF would not seem to be big enough to be a starting nose tackle in the 3-4. He stands 6-3, 295 lbs, which would seem a bit undersized for a 3-4 nose tackle. I'm not sure if he's added weight in the offseason, so my assessment could be wrong.

I also am glad to see LeRoy Vann getting some practice time in the nickel cornerback role. It would appear he was signed primarily as a potential return man, but if he can prove himself as an adequate fill-in at cornerback, it will only help his chances of making the roster. When the team had Allen Rossum, he was pretty much never used as a cornerback outside of practice, but he was also a proven great return man. We'll see if Vann can prove himself sufficient to make the roster.

Given Vann's fairly limited role, I don't know if he could last very long on the practice squad, or even clear waivers to end up on the practice squad. I'd think there would be at least one team with space on their roster and need for a potentially strong return man. I'm very curious to see how training camp and the roster cuts play out for Vann.

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Defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky
Post-Practice - May 19, 2010
San Francisco 49ers

On whether he follows the philosophy that his defenders are mirror images of each other:

"From the standpoint, do you want all your players strong, fast, good instincts, vision, all of that, yes. So, every player has the best qualities that they have, but I think mirror image point, if I could have two [LB] Patrick Willis', I'd take them. For the most part, you want the safeties and the linebackers to be violent players and if they are both Patrick Willis' or both [S] Dashons [Goldson] or those type of players, that's what you like."

On whether he looks for different skill sets between the strong side and the weak side linebackers:

"I think a little bit you do. Right now, we are playing left and right and it interchanges between SAM and WILL, so sometimes a certain guy has a better job or a better feel in a zone situation where he can drop and have you put that linebacker there because he has more athletic ability than the other one. Maybe one has better pass rush skills if you put them on a certain side or something. It does maintain it a little bit, but if they are equal players, then put them on left and right and let them go."

On whether it is easier to disguise things if you're strong safety and free safety do a little bit of everything:

"I think it is across the board. If you have two inside linebackers that can play both the MIKE and TED, it's the same thing. Same thing with the outside linebackers, I think your disguise is a little bit better with safeties as well. The best thing in this league nowadays is to disguise because the quarterbacks are so well-versed in the coverages, especially during the film sessions."

On whether LB Navarro Bowman reminds him of Willis at all:

"I think he had a good career at Penn State and that's the reason we drafted him in the third round. We saw some potential in him and so far he's trying to learn as much as he can out there, which is hard as a rookie linebacker. He's doing well. Hopefully, each and every day he improves and gets better and better."

On whether it's hard for Bowman to play inside because he played outside at Penn State:

"I think a little bit. I think your instincts and your understanding of the game is pretty much the same across the board when you come out of college. Then all of a sudden, you try to pigeon hole him into a position that he should fit in your scheme or your defense and that's what we are trying to figure out, exactly where he is. It's a little bit harder now when there are no pads on, so we don't know his striking ability or his leverage that he plays with. You can gauge a little bit of it, but for the most part, it's kind of hard."

On the starting CBs not attending OTAs and if he sees that as an advantage to look at other guys:

"We coach the guys that are here. I know it's involuntary OTAs, they have other things that they have to do. Would we like them here? Yes. Does it help the other guys behind them build reps and see things over and over? Yes. So, for those younger guys and those second string guys that are playing behind [CB] Nate [Clements] and [CB] Shawntae [Spencer], it's great for them because they're getting the reps."

On CB Will James and where he fits in:

"Right now, Will is not practicing, but in a couple of weeks we're hoping to get him back. He's just a talented guy and we need some veteran leadership on the back end as well. I think he'll bring that to the organization."

On who he sees filling in at nickel back:

"I think right now, [CB] [Tarell] Brown and [CB] Phillip Adams will work at that position as well as [CB] LeRoy Vann. We're going to see what those two young guys can do there."

On Adams and Vann coming from small schools and if they have a lot of ground to make up:

"I think a lot of teams in the National Football League with the nickel back, he's got to be a very knowledgeable player. I think with Phillip and LeRoy, they have a chance to be that. We'll see where they go with it."

On whether he's committed to having DT Ricky Jean Francois as the backup NT or whether DT Isaac Sopoaga will compete:

"That's what we do. We have Isaac working behind Ricky Jean. It's the same situation with [NT] Aubrayo [Franklin] not being here. It gives his opportunities and ability to play in the National Football League and see the reps and see what he needs to work on, which is great for Ricky Jean. And he's doing a pretty good job." 

On whether he likes what he sees from Jean Francois:

"Yes, so far. Yes, very well."

On what he's seen from S Taylor Mays:

"Same thing with Navorro and Taylor and all of the young guys we have in here, it's tough. There are a lot of things thrown at them the first couple of weeks. They just got out of a scenario of a worldwide tour going to teams and stuff like that. It's good to get them here, start sitting them down, understand the system and understand where their role is. They'll eventually and hopefully move on and upward."

On how Mays is learning off the field:

"I think maybe after the end of the week, I think you get a better grasp of it. Being around him now, the teaching part from the coaching standpoint is continuing here, all the way until we pretty much get to training camp, less a couple weeks there in July. He'll be in there and he does a pretty good job of picking things up, which is always important."

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RJF

I’m sure he’s put on at least 10 lbs if he is competing for that back up NT spot. If not, he will need to.

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by Drew Kerr on May 19, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Steady diet of Big Mac's

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on May 19, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eating at Chili's will get it done faster than the BM's

You’ll be able to hear his arteries clogging from the next room.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw BM

And thought you meant bowel movements. I was gonna say I didn’t know they can make you gain weight!

87 days to go. . .And contrary to popular belief, sadly I do not have ESP.

by Mangoman on May 20, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Veterans are basically like the equivelant to Seniors on campus.

Some of them basically have seperate work outs away from the preliminary OTA’s. That’s probably what they are doing.

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by Drew Kerr on May 19, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You would think nate would have his (bleep) there he could possibly lose his position if someone comes

in and light-it-up or if he comes in and looks horrible and since when did spencer become a veteran he may be a vet as far as being on the team but not as far as being on ’’’the feild’’.

by jayjonna415 on May 19, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, Clements is fine. His job is secure.

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by Drew Kerr on May 19, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet if we had

kept our friggin 4th rd pick and got a CB atleast one of those guys would be there to make sure nobody takes their job.
I’m still sour at losing a 4th to get A Davis I don’t care what anybody says what the reasoning was

by crumpedup15 on May 19, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That the draft....

has been over for almost a month and he still feel’s this way …So sad that one is owned by something you have no controll over ..!!

Kewl

by Edggy on May 20, 2010 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

I was PISSED when we traded up for Davis. I also wasn’t jazzed about Mays at first either…but once they became 49ers I had to be positive and look at the upside.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's a common ...

theme in teaching of recovery .. taking ownership in what’s revelent in your life and not being owned for which you have no control over …kinda kewl once they get it …!!

Kewl

by Edggy on May 20, 2010 6:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

do you teach or counsel?

just curious. I like to get background on people so I know who I’m talking to.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

More of a teaching ...

thing , visit people in rehab’s shelter’s ..but mostly felon’s .. the only degree i have is being one of them … but iwont get into it i cast no stone’s …!!

Kewl

by Edggy on May 20, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

sounds cool

maybe we can do a piece on you one day…if you’re up for it

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Naw ...

think’n our addiction to the 49er’s is sufficentt here …Ha…!!

Kewl

by Edggy on May 20, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mays at 49

Is better than Earl Thomas at 13. And I was a huge Earl Thomas guy.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 20, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

But we got that 4th rounder back for next year. I don’t believe that a 4th round CB could compete for a starting job. And probably isn’t much more talented then a 7th round CB or any vetearn.

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by Hoopers Judge on May 19, 2010 9:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

4th round CB's:

Verner, Alterraun
Lindley, Trevard
Thurmond, Walter
Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi

Especially Ansah, but I would bet any of those 4 could have challenged Brown for the Nickel spot right away.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least until we draft Ras-I Dowling next season

Then we can let Nate’s salary dissappear.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 20, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

coach sing

already said no one is winning a job in shorts. when its time to go for real he’ll be there. now is the time for young guys to get in work and older guys to get in that last bit of family time before there gone for months away

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by DreZ on May 19, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus

these vets dont need to learn scheme, formation, alignment, etc. They are working on specific technique, conditioning, weights, things they know after years of playing that they need to improve upon and they have the know-how to get it done.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tae started 16 games last year

and has been with the team for 5 seasons…that’s kinda a veteran isn’t it?

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your words are true....

but you can take the name Nate out & insert Lawson

Leicester Donnie Jordan Jr

by L. J on May 20, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

though

he’s said he’s learning to use hands and technique, strength to do his job. He said the coaches don’t seem concerned with his weight right now. Remember too that Franklin is somewhat undersized for a NT but he uses quickness and strength over sheer size to command double teams.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is true

RJF can easily put on enough weight to match Franklin. The question is whether or not he would sacrifice some burst to do that.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

any way he can command a double team and hold it

is fine. Some guys can do that with burst and power, rather than immovable mass.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well he certainly won't be another Mt. Cody

As long as he does the job and does it well, I don’t care how he gets it done.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

MPE

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's 300lbs and can do the peanut butter and jelly dance, he'd be fine.

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by rlott#42 on May 21, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I told people RJF people was pretty good player at LSU ''i know some people knew aliready knew''but 2 me

i hope he takes that spot from ’’sapoga’’i know he’s a okay ‘’run stuffer’‘but thats it and 2 me i want 2 see more out of that position he barely ’’pressure the QBs’’not 2 mention sacks.Other then that it sounded like ’’manusky’’wasn’t even amused by ’’OTAs’’and if so i’m with him 3 or 4 weeks from now i’m there but ‘’right now ’’i’m struggling ‘’2 stay tuned’’

by jayjonna415 on Jun 9, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need all the youth we can get in our Defensive Backfield

Even if those young guys dont play CB full time, they could be moved out to safety or nickel. The Niners are a bit long in the tooth at corner, so having young players up and coming is a good thing. I hope that the young players take advantage of the opportunity they are getting with the veteran CB’s practicing on their own. It is a big opportunity for those youngsters to get minutes with the first team that they might not otherwise get.

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on May 19, 2010 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe I'm thinking too far ahead

but it’d be nice to get a CB with the 1st rounder in 2011

by brundylop on May 19, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Assuming QB won’t be a pressing need!

by brundylop on May 19, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

nahhhhhh

im sure smith will definately be solid this season, but yes it would be pretty nice to get a CB or OLB in the 1st round.

but enough of the draft.
i just want september to get here already!!!
the anxiety is killing me!!!
or am i alone on this?

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by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol....not al libra

im a leo. bday is in august.

but im a wierd guy so yea haha

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by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

and yea

the season needs to get here so that i can release my super-fan emotions! haha

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by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

we got Tae in the 2nd, Brown in the 5th

both started games last year and Tae is a probowl sleeper this year (that’s right).

I just dont see spending big time draft pick and dollars on a CB. 2nd round, fine…or trade down to the bottom of the first (where we hope to be picking anyways, but I mean like into the 30’s). Heck, I like all of the 4th round CB’s this year. I agree no more 5th, 6th, 7th round CB’s for now. I just dont want to spend a 1st on one.

We may need a Center, LDE, and possibly an OLB.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

This year was an exception

Next year there will be 4 or 5 high level guys… and some top QB talents but the draft won’t be NEARLY as deep as it was this year through the first 3 rounds.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 20, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's likely the way we'll be going next year

Nate’s contract is a bit much and we might not be able to keep him around. Plus we’ll be picking in the late 1st where CB’s usually start to fly off the board.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

But

It would be a lot nicer not to have to!!!

by seafood lover on May 20, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

vann is the man

robinson is not even close to the kick returner that vann could be…just watchin vann in open space drops my jaw…so explosive

by texasniner06 on May 19, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you'll see this to a degree

they’ll take youth over experience if the level of play is the same (for backup roles). It’s a risk you have to take. If you stock your team with veterans you’re constantly losing guys or watching their skills diminish.

We solved the safety age issue by not re-signing Roman and drafting Mays to replace Lewis (well, we know Lewis is probably not in the long term plans and we have 4+ other safeties who are under 25)

Spencer is 28, Brown 25…these are the only “locks” for future CB. The older vets (James, Paymah, Smith) are “right now” guys like Bly was.

Rest assured one CB will make the team and play special teams like Hudson did last year. Vann could make the team as a returner, though I hope he shows he plays bigger than his size at CB as well. At least for Dime packages. That way we don’t have two CB’s who don’t see the field on defense. But if you count Vann as a ST’er and not part of the DB’s…that leaves one spot for Dime CB. I gotta believe James is that guy.

One of the most difficult questions of this off-season is who are the final 2 CB’s? Smith, Paymah, James, Adams, Stoudamire, Brock, Vann (who might make it on ST’s)

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

We should keep 5 corners on the roster

but I’d easily sacrifice one if we need more depth elsewhere. R Smith can sub at corner if absolutely necessary. But if we keep five, it’s gonna be Clements, Spencer, Brown, James, and Adams

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

so Paymah was a camp body you think?

sad, he sounds like he really likes it in SF and he’s doing fairly well granted it’s only OTA’s. Stoudamire has heart and I kinda hope he makes the PS. Smith (Keith) I could care less about especially after he got victimized in SEA last year.

I suppose there could be an injury that changes the roster projection but I really hope we can keep as many of these kids as possible if they are playing well.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Paymah

I think they brought him in because they wanted a really speedy guy out there who would contribute on ST’s. They got him before the draft and any of the early minicamps. I think after looking at what they had, they found a speed guy in either Brown or perhaps Adams (?) and went after a guy with better coverage skills in case Clements doesn’t hold up. They just didn’t want that guy to be Dre Bly.

I have faith that the coaches know exactly what they want and who they’re getting it from. I’d bet that Paymah is an after thought unless he blows it up during camp.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's typical 49ers CB though

big, physical, press cover corner who plays special teams. Plus he’s only 27 compared to James and Smith who are both 30

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the combination of size

youth and veteran presence makes him the most likely of those on the bubble to make it

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by smileyman on May 20, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I assume that they brought in James for a purpose. Competition is always good and we don’t want these guys to think they’re being handed anything, but I would think they’d allow the rookies to compete for the last spot since they’d likely rarely see the field other than ST’s. I just think if they thought Paymah was their guy then they wouldn’t have brought in James this late in the process.

Unless they already know they aren’t rostering any rookies, or at least don’t feel comfortable enough to not have a backup plan, then I just don’t think they’re as high on Paymah as they thought they’d be. Training camp will give a better idea, but I’d put money on Adams making the roster unless they have to go light on CB’s and only roster 4.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You nailed it with this
or at least don’t feel comfortable enough to not have a backup plan

I was right, you were wrong.

by smileyman on May 20, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that is very likely...

Maybe they just picked the two best veterans on the market that played against them last season and are having them fight for a spot. I just don’t think that Paymah and James will make the team and statistically, James had the better season I believe.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

James started 14 games

so yeah, he had the better year.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Despite the Vikings suspect secondary last year...

James was “starting” on a more suspect Lions secondary. Don’t forget to take that into account. I don’t know that James would have been a starter on the Vikings either.

They should’ve just signed Leigh Bodden last year and saved the trouble of doing all this.

by 9thevolution on May 21, 2010 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say that too

training camp injuries happen and having a guy who’s been through your OTA’s and mini-camps doesn’t hurt.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

intresting thought I had

James is sitting out to learn the playbook better…I doubt he knows less of it than the rookies do yet they’re on the field. I think he’s already got the 4th spot as of now and he and the coaches know it. As long as he plays decent in TC the spot is his. Why else would he be sitting out while the rooks practice?

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Coaches decision

He already knows what it’s like to play at this level and he’s familiar with the secondary coaches. I’d say he has at least the 4th locked up and will compete for either 3rd or even 2nd if Tae beats out Clements for #1.

Though I don’t think we’ll have a true #1 and #2 this year. I think coverage will be based off of who the receivers are how they’re lined up. If the #1 is a speed guy, it’ll be Tae’s assignment, but if he’s a possession type guy, it’ll be Clements. I have faith that Manusky will gameplan to the player’s strengths.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, I'd modify your last paragraph accordingly

because both Tae and Nate are press-cover corners who aren’t blazingly fast:

…whomever is the more physical receiver will be Nate’s assigment, the other is Tae’s.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know neither is unbelieveably fast...

but Tae is less likely to get burned than Nate, I would imagine. The indication heading into the Colts game was that Nate couldn’t keep up with the receivers and that’s why he was pulled and Brown started. Am I mistaken?

When we play the Eagles, I guarantee Tae is lined up on Jackson for the game. He’ll still get help, but they won’t dream of having Nate cover him.

by 9thevolution on May 20, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

like I said

Nate will play the more physical receiver, or the strong side if it’s about even.

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

who covered Andre Johnson last year?

wait, was Nate injured by then? Still, who played against him…I can’t stop to look it up

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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nate was still playing during that game

From what I can find at the moment though, which is only one picture, it looks like Tae waas covering him with Goldson helping deep.

by 9thevolution on May 21, 2010 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Please dont let Vann be the next KSWOF!

I dont wanna read LRVWOF

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on May 19, 2010 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Thats because i like Vann a lot and think he could bring a lot to this team if they can sign him to the 53

Judgment day is coming!

by Widowwolf on May 19, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing about return men is… you can actually evaluate them really well in practices.. The best guy for the job will definitely make the roster in this case.

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by James Brady on May 19, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey ninja saw your gamer tag in the madden thread .my gamer tag is BAGGIM N TAGGIM ,put that on

your freinds list i’ll accept it then i’ll hit you with a freind request so when the ‘’madden tournament’’ starts we won’t have 2 do it again.

by jayjonna415 on May 19, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good, will do, my man.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.

by James Brady on May 19, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone on PS3

my ID is rookyballr15 add me and we can get down

by crumpedup15 on May 19, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Added you Jay.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.

by James Brady on May 19, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

negative

ps3 all the way, all day

hahah

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahah...really...bill gates?

the man hasnt done anything for microsoft in years..he is now more or less the face of microsoft and thats it.

im not talking bout games. im talking about graphics, reliability, and network.

graphics on the ps3 will take a huge poop on the xbox’s graphics

the reliability of the ps3 surpasses the xbox’s on many levels

the network for gameplay is free and good, i dont believe in having to pay for a newtwork when you already pay for the interwebs.

and if you want to talk about games i just have to say:

Uncharted (1 and 2)

Metal Gear Solid (enough said)

Little Big Planet

heavy rain

please, the only, (and i do mean only) reason that the xbox made it this far was because of HALO. thats it.

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

almost forgot

the whole GOD OF WAR series.

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

PS3 is great..

…but God Of War was horrible to me. As a huge mythos geek, God of War was a slap in the face to anybody who cares about mythology. Other than that it was OK. Either way, no more 360 vs PS3 debate (I know you didn’t start it)

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.

by James Brady on May 19, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whether bill gates is involved with xbox360 or not he has enough money 2 have the best of the

best working 4 him and graphics are you serious how many times did ps3 had 2 cut there prices 2 even up ,Wii out sold yall

by jayjonna415 on May 19, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha cute, but im done

because i got respect for Ninjames, so ill listen 2 him

so im not even gonna say anthing after this

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

YAYYY

football!!! Y (^_^) Y

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Jay..

..there’s good thing about both of ‘em. We’re all gamers here (in this comment section). :] So long as we can all make fun of the bad games and not the systems, we should stick together.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.

by James Brady on May 19, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea i feel you ninja i'll end with this hey ninj i play alot of other games im a big RPG fan

im playing’’ dragon age’’but this is 4 all the gamers ’’’game crazy and hollywood video is going bankrupt i don’t iff ya’ll have them in your cities but there going 2 have a fire sale knocking prices down to 70% to 80% so if you do have them in your cities you should call them and check when there closing 4 good.

by jayjonna415 on May 19, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hated that we lost my Gamecrazy.

I’m against everything Gamestop stands for. And I saw some of the games you played. High five for Fallout + Oblivion.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.

by James Brady on May 19, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea me 2 i got alot of freinds at my gamecrazy i hate seeing them go and i never

messed with game stop unless im really really desperate but my freinds at gamecrazy always looked out 4 me the last time i went 2 gamestop i had a ps2

by jayjonna415 on May 19, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

so what is it

that you guys dont like about gamestop?

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their slogan is "power to the players"

yet they force you to shop there to get content unlocked that ships on disc. They represent used products as new. They tell you " you don’t need a receipt" when half the time you do, so they get even more money out of you, they don’t care about the customer.. etc.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.

by James Brady on May 19, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ninjames

If you aren’t PS3 exclusive you should make sure to get Mass Effect and ME2. Best Story driven RPG in years

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on May 20, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

you can also

get it on PC

that is if you are a pc gamer also

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 20, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WISH!!!

i wasnt deployed right now because i would be on that like white on rice!!!

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a 360

Don’t wanna pay for online
Game engine is better
did I say online is free??
Lol it is really up to the individual to decide which one you like I just don’t wanna pay for online so I went PS3

by crumpedup15 on May 19, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

thank you for your input, but

were gettin back to football,

conversations about 360 vs PS3 is always a fire starter, so we are ending it now =]

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 19, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, and we all (hopefully) respect your decision.

We’ve got a lot of PS3 guys on here as well, though the majority seems to be on the 360 folks favor. If we get enough when it comes down to a Madden tourney, we’ll do both systems, no bias here sir.

And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.

by James Brady on May 19, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can someone clear this up for me!

Someone told me that if you’re playing online you can play someone even if they’re playing a different platform (XBox 360 vs. PS3, etc.) Is that true or not?

87 days to go. . .And contrary to popular belief, sadly I do not have ESP.

by Mangoman on May 20, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

negative

different networks

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 20, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

but it would be

pretty kick @$$ if we were able to.

Rugby for Pu***s: That's what he and his teammates call American football.
- Gareth Thomas (Rugby Pro Player for the Cardiff Blues)

I love football, but that is just too funny to be angry at. Rugby is truely a harder sport than American Football.

by imjuliooo89 on May 20, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone will make millions finding a way to provide cross-platform gaming

"I will speak at times, when it's necessary, but I don't believe in talking just because you can." - P-52
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on May 21, 2010 5:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vann

My concern is that we’ll end up with both Vann and Carr on the same team. It just doesn’t seem very environmentally friendly.

LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.

by LondonNiner on May 19, 2010 10:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Of course

In that case I have no truck with it.

LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.

by LondonNiner on May 19, 2010 11:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've nicknamed Anthony Dixon "Truck"

So we could have the Carr drop back, Truck pickup the blitz (like what I did there? Truck, pickup??), and toss it to Vann.

"I will speak at times, when it's necessary, but I don't believe in talking just because you can." - P-52
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep ...

… I see your train of thought.

LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.

by LondonNiner on May 20, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow, subtle, but GREAT!

"I will speak at times, when it's necessary, but I don't believe in talking just because you can." - P-52
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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

and with both of them carrying the extra letters on their names…that makes them even more inefficient

"I will speak at times, when it's necessary, but I don't believe in talking just because you can." - P-52
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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kyle Williams

I talked with him after OTAs today and he shared a few cool things… I’ll either post up a piece on it on Thursday or Friday… great guy to talk with….

Giving you all the 49ers info you need at the San Francisco 49ers Examiner

That's my site. Check it out!

by PHUT! on May 19, 2010 11:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I love this kid

he’s got star written all over him. he’s got fire.

"I will speak at times, when it's necessary, but I don't believe in talking just because you can." - P-52
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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone

know when the rest of the rookie madden ratings come out? Is it after training camp when they cut the roster down some?

by crumpedup15 on May 19, 2010 11:52 PM PDT reply actions  

this is good, and as we anticipated

on Mays learning the playbook, etc.

and he does a pretty good job of picking things up, which is always important.

"I will speak at times, when it's necessary, but I don't believe in talking just because you can." - P-52
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by Tre9er on May 20, 2010 5:28 AM PDT reply actions  

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