Mike Florio: Nancy Boy (or how I learned to stop worrying and love the cold)
Many people know who Mike Florio is, creator of NBC's Profootballtalk.com and writer for the Sporting News, and many people disagree entirely with his style of journalism. Personally, I enjoy the entertainment Florio provides as my guilty pleasure, but today, he's gone too far. In an article titled "NFL takes unacceptable risk with New York Super Bowl", Florio explains why he thinks a cold weather stadium is a bad idea. He even goes as far to question the powers that be, thinking someone's gone mad:
After further deliberation, the NFL's decision to hold a Super Bowl in a cold-weather climate with a stadium that has no lid makes us wonder whether plenty of people have lost their marbles.
What bothers me about that statement is that Florio uses the term "us". His main focus on the article isn't about the players sufferring from the less-than-perfect conditions, but actually the fans (which in my opinion, is a cheap ploy to win over some followers). Here's what he said:
But what about the sandal-wearers from California whose idea of a winter coat is a windbreaker with a hood? When it's time for them to pay for tickets that with a face value in the vicinity of $2,000, will they realize that they'll also need to spend roughly that much more on coats, boots, long underwear, gloves, hats, scarves, hand warmers, and foot warmers?
I don't know Florio, what do those same people do when they visit areas that are cold? If someone is plunking down $2,000 for a Super Bowl ticket, I'm sure they can afford the extra cost in order to prepare for chilling conditions. The chance to watch a classic title game in a blizzard should be something to look forward to, not something to whine about. Remember Oakland's epic battle with New England in 2002? I'm sure Raiders fans that made the trek to New England were prepared for the conditions. The game that took place on the field, again in my opinion, would've warranted sitting in a snow bank for 4 hours.
After the jump, I cry a little bit more about people crying about the cold...
I'm not saying that fans should be forced to sit in brutal conditions, because certainly not everyone enjoys the cold. However, knowing full well the Super Bowl is in New York, allows those fans to stay at home and enjoy the game from the comfort of their own homes. This too, is something Florio has problem with, as he feels the league is "pandering to the experience of home viewers". Gee, we wouldn't want that, would we? I'm curious to know what percentage of the NFL fanbase can't regularly attend live NFL games. I'm also positively sure the NFL makes quite a few bucks from television deals with FOX, CBS, NBC and ESPN.
Since people can enjoy NFL games comfortably in their homes, why does every Super Bowl have to be in a fair-weather stadium? Again, it's all about choice; if you don't want to sit in the cold, don't go to New York to watch the Super Bowl. I'm quite certain the NFL won't have problems selling the tickets you don't want. Florio makes an absurd suggestion regarding the new stadium:
And if the folks in New York/New Jersey wanted to host one or more Super Bowls at their new stadium, they should have included a retractable roof.
Why? If they built the stadium with intent to have an advantage over fair-weather teams in the months of December and January, why would they take it away? Football is a sport that is meant to be played outdoors, the Green Bay Packers have been doing it for years that way (and guess what, regular fans and visiting fans have survived those conditions). The fans finally get a win by the NFL granting a Super Bowl bid to a cold-weather stadium, and guys like Florio pop-off about the nancy-boys that can't handle the cold (yet afford the cost of a $2,000+ ticket). My suggestion to Florio, and all the fans that complain about the Super Bowl in cold weather: stay home.
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Florio's making the wrong arguments
I don’t know Florio, what do those same people do when they visit areas that are cold? If someone is plunking down $2,000 for a Super Bowl ticket, I’m sure they can afford the extra cost in order to prepare for chilling conditions. The chance to watch a classic title game in a blizzard should be something to look forward, not something to whine about. Remember Oakland’s epic battle with New England in 2002? I’m sure Raiders fans that made the trek to New England were prepared for the conditions. The game that took place on the field, again in my opinion, would’ve warranted sitting in snow bank for 4 hours.
The cold, and how it gives one team an advantage over another, I couldn’t care less. What has to be taken into consideration is visibility. If you’re in the stadium and you can’t view the game from the upper deck seats, why even be there?
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
a good point
but how often would it be that someone can’t view the game from inside the stadium. It would take a complete white-out for that to happen (or fog beyond belief due to contrasting conditions inside the stadium and weather entering the stadium).
I understand your point though, and it’s a lot better than “sandal-wearing Californians” who would freeze to death.
by Andrew Davidson on May 26, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
There's less than 1 percent chance of that happening
but I believe it’s the only premise if you’re trying to sway anyone into believing there shouldn’t be in NY(New Jersey). I mean the game is definitely going to sell out no matter what the weather conditions are. And very seldom does anyone waste two thousand dollar tickets. They’ll either be given away or pawned to a friend/family member, if you’re really that upset that you’ll be out in the cold for a few hours.
1.Brandon Graham 1.Charles Brown 2. Vladimir Ducasse 3.Torell Troup 4.Robert Johnson 6.Mike Kafka 6.Joshua Moore 7.Alex Daniels
Maybe he is also concerned about the half-time shows lol
It would be hard to wheel out the 70 year old musicians in a blizzard lol
Well what they really need to do is make sure they have a Beatles half-time show first....
well with the two that are left anyways lol
by sanfranfanmdk on May 26, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Paul is still going very strong.
I loved his most recent album.
And then God created Saturn.. And he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Eureka 49ers, my Niners blog.
as much as I like the Who
I have to agree with this.
by Andrew Davidson on May 26, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I like the a bunch of older bands as well....
but they need to mix it up….stupid Justin Timberlake , copping a feel and taking Janets clothes off lol
by sanfranfanmdk on May 26, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey they looked pretty good for a couple of 60-year olds!
If there was some way to get some heating on the stage I think they could handle it . I was disappointed to hear negative reviews on that halftime show. I was stoked about it!
80 days to go. . .
Someone needs to tell Florio about this little place called Lake Tahoe...
pretty sure a few “sandal-wearing californian’s” go there during the nfl season… don’t think the weather in ny will be much colder
what about driving rainstorms in south florida or Tampa Bay?
What about freak 80 degree temperature possibility? What about the super bright overhead lights and jumbo screens, what about the funneled noise of Qwest field?
I’m all for the NY SB. I love bad weather football. Heck, we’ll be lucky if that happens. Chances are it will go off without a hitch, 38 degrees and a clear night. That’s football weather.
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and for the record
Florio is funny a small percentage of the time…the rest of the time he’s just a douche
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I was at the Green Bay - New York Championship game.....
a few years back. It was the coldest I have ever been in my life. The vendors handed out popsicle sticks with the beer, you had to keep stirring them otherwise they would freeze. It will also most likely be the most memorable game of my life. There is nothing like seeing Favre through away a game in OT.
i love the bit about the popsicle sticks
sounds like fun. indeed, EPIC
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I am so ready for the season to start already.
It’s driving me nuts. They need to extend the season or something.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
or
have a minor league system that plays its games during the offseason. If players perform well, they can get called up just in time for the regular season. certainly this isn’t feasible, but it would be nice.
by Andrew Davidson on May 26, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The arena football just doesn’t do it for me. And whatever that other one was with Dennis Green was pretty horrible I thought.
If someone could actually put together a smaller league but with more teams and REALLY knew how to market it and make it exciting and put forth a ton of effort, I’d support a Spring/ Summer league.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Starts July 1. Not quite as early as you’d like, but it’s better than the UFL and AFL (I promise you that).
by Andrew Davidson on May 26, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve watched it before… but it’s just not televised enough to really get in to it.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
what’s my excuse then? It’s on all the time here, and I still can’t get into it.
by Andrew Davidson on May 26, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol... maybe it is on here too...
I’ll try and pay more attention. 35 days or something like that according to the website.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
UFL?
I’ve ended up working most Fridays since the AFL started up so haven’t watched hardly any of the games.
The UFL plays it’s season during the NFL season which I think is a mistake. It should bill itself as an alternative for the off-season, not competition with the NFL
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
UFL
I don’t expect it to last long.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Went too ...
… two game’s one was the championship game and it wasn’t bad football … kinda kewl …!!
Kewl
I enjoyed watching them
but I’m a sucker for football.
I just think they need to move the season so it’s in the NFL’s off-season
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Absolutely...
.. and could develope into a good farm type system …rite after SB , when team’s get down to the 53 roster there’s some three thousand player’s available …!!
Kewl
I grew up in New Jersey
By Thanksgiving we’d be freezing our butts off at the traditional high school rivalry game with the next town over. I think it’s warmer back there now.
And quite honestly, I’ll never be at a Super Bowl game. So my concerns are about how it’s going to look on TV. People who can afford tickets can afford long johns and parkas.
And I love football games played in the snow, so a blizzard is fine with me.
On other topics:
I liked to listen to the Sabercats when that arena football league was functioning. I know it wasn’t quite real football, but it somehow soothed me. You know, when a junkie can’t get a fix of the real deal.
And I’m old enough that I actually saw The Beatles (all four of them) play at Shea Stadium. Saw but couldn’t hear, the screaming was so loud. I was a little embarrassed for The Who.
by Bob In Beaverton on May 26, 2010 8:34 PM PDT reply actions
Oh Come On
This has absolutely nothing to do with the game, the players, or the fans. It has to do with rewarding an owner for building a new barn. That’s why Dallas is getting an SB and Indianapolis is getting an SB.
I can't wait to see a Super Bowl in bad weather.
I hope there is a blizzard. But I was thinking about it the other day and came up with a question: What if there is a blizzard for a day or two before and during the game and no flights could come in? I know the chances are slim, but it wouldn’t be that unusual either for the heart of winter in NJ. I also know the teams get there a week before the game and can plan for the weather pretty well in terms of travel, but I doubt all 80,000 ticket holders can do the same.
I can't wait for Mango's sig to say "0 days to go".
Then they open up the doors
and let the locals in… hell I have AWD, I’d brave the 60 mile or so drive

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