The Mega Conference and Hypocrisy
Update: Texas has agreed to stay in the Big 12 along with Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, and Texas A&M. More than likely that means Utah will end up in the Pac-10 as their 12th team.
I realize this site is dedicated to the NFL and the 49ers in particular, but the NCAA is the pipeline that feeds the NFL machine, and no football story got more press over the weekend than the possible seismic realignment of the NCAA football landscape. For those unlike myself who have a life and haven't followed every piece of information as it came out, like a homeless man digging through the trash for any scrap of food he could find, here's a quick run down of how things played out.
It started with Colorado leaving the Big 12 for the Pac-10. That came as no surprise to anyone since it had long been speculated that Colorado and Utah would join the Pac-10. Then Boise St joined the MWC, another no brainer, but things really started heating up when Big Red (Nebraska) joined the Big Ten. Suddenly the remaining Big 12 schools started scrambling for places to land. No one wanted to find themselves like SMU or TCU when the SWC fell apart and they were left with no place to call home among the major conferences. With Texas as the headliner, the Pac-10 started heavily courting Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, and Texas A&M. But A&M decided they could blaze their own path and started flirting with the SEC which rekindled hope among Utah fans that they just might make it into the Pac-10 after all. Unfortunately for them, if there's one thing we've learned in this whole process it's that the Pac-10 really doesn't want Utah. At least not while there's a better alternative from a BCS school, and Kansas fits the bill nicely. And while I realize Utah has a much better football team than Kansas, and football is the king that's driving the expansion bus, Utah also has a far superior football team than Colorado, yet CU was chosen and Utah wasn't. At least Kansas has a dominant basketball team and there football team has had success as little as 3 years ago when the won the Orange bowl, which is more than CU can say. Sorry Utah.
So what made Nebraska want to escape from the Big 12? Just one word, Texas. They felt Texas wielded too much power. If you want proof of the influence they hold just look at how many teams are falling in line behind Texas as they head for the egress. And that conga line includes OU which is a football power in its own right. Not to mention Texas wanted a TV deal similar to what Notre Dame has where they could keep all the revenue for themselves. Nebraska Chancellor Harvey Pearlman had this to say after the move to the Big Ten, "There's only on way that you can fully commit long term to a conference, and that is that you assign the media rights to your athletic contest to the conference for the long term. And I asked were the members willing to do that. the University of Texas made it clear they were not willing to do that."
More news on realignment and the hypocrisy of college football after the jump.
For a couple days after the initial salvo of movement it looked as if the Big 12 was dead. The Pac-10 would become the Pac-16. The Big Ten, which now has 12 teams, would likely raid 3 more teams but this time from the Big East, before capping it off with Notre Dame as their 16th member. With the addition of Texas A&M, the SEC would steal 3 from the ACC bringing their conference membership up to 16 as well. Of the remaining 5 Big East teams, 3 would join the ACC to replace the 3 that went to the SEC with the final 2 Big East teams joining Conference USA or the MAC, and the MWC would pick up 2 of the remaining Big 12 teams with the other 2 also looking to the MAC or Conference USA. In the end we'd end up with 3 super conferences each looking to get 2 BCS bowl bids when things are redone for the 2012 season, two 12 team conferences, the ACC and MWC, each with 1 BCS bowl bid a piece, and 2 spots open for at large contenders. At least that's how things looked until Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe threw his hail marry pass.
Now rumors are starting to circulate that Beebe has worked out a deal that would pay each of the remaining 10 teams in the Big 12 an estimated 14-25 million a year (The deal shares the money unevenly so you can guess who's making closer to the 25 million area). That compairs favorably to the 17.4 million each team in the SEC made last year with their TV deal. And according to some sites, Texas is willing to go along with it. Who knows how much truth are in these rumors. The deal is for 18 years so what sounds like a good deal now may be a poor one in 10 years. Just ask any athlete who's signed a big contract only to end up being unhappy with it later. Plus, if A&M bolts for the SEC it all becomes a moot point anyways. But the fact the Big 12 has rebounded from a flat-line to having the faintest of pulses is a small miracle in and of itself.
So why do teams such as Texas and Texas A&M want to break up a rivalry that has existed for over 100 years? Why does the Pac-10 want to break up their nice symetry of 2 rival teams per state (except in California wich has 2 in the North and 2 in the South which are almost like two separate states anyways)? Why would teams from the Big 12 that have been together from their days of the Big 8 and even Big 6, want to go their separate ways? That answer should be obvious to everyone. It's all about the money and nothing to do with the most important part of the college game, the student athlete. And that's what makes all this talk of realignment so ironic. It's coming right on the heels of the USC sanctions that came as a result Reggie Bush getting a pair of free sneakers and a $10 coupon to In and Out Burgers. Actually, he got more than that, but you get the point.
Only a few college football players will actually go on to get a big payday in the NFL. The rest are told they should just be happy they're getting a free quality education. But if we've learned anything this weekend it's that college football is big business. And these players are not getting paid for the money they're helping to bring to the schools they play for. So while schools are selling their souls to make a few extra dollars, the players are left wondering who gets all that extra money. A whole article could be written on the best way to pay players while still trying to ensure even level of pay, so I'm not going to even try to get into it. But the bottom line is that the players should be able to share in the huge revenue being generated by the sport they play. I don't know exactly how much Bush got paid under the table, but I'm relatively positive it was a lot less than the school made from having him as a member of the team.
No one can say for sure if the super conference will mean more money for the schools involved. What we do know is that this isn't the first time it's been tried. Back in the late 90's the WAC inflated to 16 schools. And while they had some success on the field with Steve Sarkisian leading BYU to a Cotton Bowl victory and top 5 finish, and Utah making it to the NCAA finals before losing to Kentucky, the old guard of the WAC decided they missed what they had before. Four of the WAC's charter members BYU, Utah, Wyoming, and New Mexico, along with longtime WAC members Colorado St, Air Force, San Diego St and recent WAC member UNLV decided to break away and form the MWC so they could have a conference that was similar to what they had before. So if the Pac-10, Big Ten, and SEC do end up becoming super conference's, will they go through the same feeling of nostalgia the original WAC members went through, or will the money cure their sentimental feelings?
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Thank you! Not only informative but very well written.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jun 14, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
nitpick
moot point, not mute point.
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I too have been homeless man digging thru the information trash on this story all weekend
First, the student athlete aspect you talked about: I don’t see the conference realignment for more money as hypocrisy. The money made from football and mens basketball goes to fund all other sports at the university. If schools aren’t maximizing their football profits than it severely effects the vast amount students playing other sports.
As for this realignment I’ve had a ton of thoughts. First off I think Texas would be making a mistake remaining in the Big 12 10. I’m not sure how their TV contract could have doubled after Colorado and Nebraska left when they spent years getting nowhere in negotiations. Smells fishy enough to me and doubt those latest projections will actually be there. I’m also not sure how long the smaller schools will remain happy getting a smaller piece of the pie, that’s the reason Colorado, Missouri and Nebraska started looking to leave in the first place.
The other huge problem Texas will have in the smaller Big 12 10 is I believe i read the NCAA won’t allow a conference championship game until a conference has 12 teams. So now they have to find 2 more teams, none will have the prestige of Nebraska. The other problem Texas will have is convincing BCS voters that they belong in title games now. Losing Nebraska really hurt national credibility. Can they really make a case for a national championship just beating Oklahoma each year?
The Pac-16 offers so many more economic opportunities to those invited. It will fetch more money: bigger TV contract, sometimes monopolizing TV time slots, more money in conference championship games and generate more money for the Rose Bowl which will all trickle down. Another no brainier is it offers up the California and west coast market to Texas. Everyone always says no one pays attention to the Pac-10 because of TV times, well Pac-10 markets also don’t pay much attention to other schools for the same reason. Including Texas and Oklahoma in the conference will generate more of a following and recruiting opportunities on the west coast. There is also the possibility this merger will increase basketball revenue and would create a super baseball conference which could actually start to make some money if handled correctly.
On the hypocrisy
I meant more that there seems to be a double standard with the schools trying to maximize every dollar they can from their football program while at the same time punishing student athletes if they get something for free. I agree paying the players under the table could lead to some serious problems, but I don’t see a problem with giving players a little extra in addition to their scholorship considering how much money college football makes.
I also wondered about the timing of this new deal. Just as the Big 12 is about to disolve Beebe is able to work a great TV deal. Why didn’t he do that before? And if the other schools thought Texas had too much control over the conference before, how much worse is it going to be with Beebe giving Texas everthing they want in order to stay?
As for the championship game, I remember reading somewhere that they could petition the NCAA for permesion to hold the game even though the don’t have the 12 teams. I don’t remember where I read it so someone may just have been making it up, but it’s definitely a problem they’re going to have if they continue with only 10 teams.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
I don't know about paying players being a good idea....
You could look at the fact that the average 4 year college bill can be anywhere between 60-100k, so that is a good chunk of change right there (plus all of the other perks of free housing, food, gym memberships, etc)….and besides, a good education is priceless lol
Kansas has no shot if A&M goes to the SEC
Utah should get the nod based on the TV market Utah brings to the table. That is why Colorado was invited, because of the Denver TV market, it’s huge. Utah has a bigger TV market than Kansas and is a better football program. True that Kansas is a top 5 basketball program, but Football is where the money is at. Utah is not a BCS school but would become one in the Pac -16, right? Correct me if I’m wrong on that one. I like the mega Conf. They will have total control over football and would take us out of the round robin. I do like the traditional rivalries, like Oregon and Oregon State at the end of the year (Civilwar).
I gotta agree with you
Utah will will and should get the Nod to go to the Pac10 as the 11th team team or the 16th team no matter what. Utah is the Cornerstone of the MWC even with the addition of BSU Utah is ranked just a lil bit higher than tham right now.
utah brings the Utah market with them to the Pac 10. The basketball market in Kansas is not enough for the Pac 10.
Other schools like TCU and BYU should do the same thing like Utah and try to get in another conference. We ALL KNOW THATS ITS ABOUT MONEY for these schools.
Utah's not a big market
I actually think KC is a little bigger, but at the very least it’s a wash. In fact, not only is Utah not a big market, but BYU has more fans in Utah than Utah does. So if we’re going only on market size Kansas still holds the edge. The only chance Utah has is if the remaining 10 teams in the Big 12 stay together and Utah goes in as the 12th team. But if Utah was a lock for the 16th spot, why is the Pac-10 visiting Kansas? And TCU and BYU would love to be in the Pac-10. In fact, BYU’s been trying to get in the Pac-10 since the 80’s.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
I think it's pretty close
fans are pretty evenly divided between the two and they hate each other.
BYU would love to be in any conference that gets an automatic BCS bid so they can compete for real.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
What I hope
is that this shake up in conference has a reverberating affect on the BCS process and gets the current system scrapped.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
It's good to have dreams
I have that same dream. I just don’t have a lot of faith in it happening.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
But doesn't that mean that Texas can't make it to the BCS championship?
They need 2 more teams no?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 14, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
They are going to have a harder time getting in. Strength of schedule is going to hurt them, not to mention according to this new alleged TV contract they are getting richer while the other schools in the conference are getting less money. $13 million per year is a horrible deal for Ok St. and Texas Tech. Not only are they getting significantly less in their division it will be less than any school in the Big 10, Pac 10 and SEC (could be significantly less). If those schools begin to falter Texas’s schedule is going to look like cup cake avenue.
I have not paid any attention to this whole ncaa conference realingment thing
What’s going to happen with Notre Dame?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
Why do they refuse to join?
So it’s not going to happen this year?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 14, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Because they don't have to share their TV revenue as an independent
Notre Dame is joined with the Big East in every sport except football which is independent. They don’t have to share any of their TV money or any money they make from bowl games. In other words, they make a lot more money going it alone. But if the day ever came when the Big East folded and the Big Ten grew to 16 teams, they’d probably join them as the 16th team.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Why?
They won’t lose money with the big 10?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 15, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you asking why they would join as the 16th team?
That’s just based on all the speculation I’ve read, but who knows how reliable it is. My guess is that if the Big Ten had 16 teams the revenue would be enough, especially from the Big Ten network, to be about equal to what they’re making now as an independant. They may even be able to work out a deal like Texas where they get more money than the other teams in the conference.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Keep us posted, will you?
I’ve tried to keep up with it, but there are soooo many conflicting articles out there that I don’t even know what’s going on.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 15, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I know what you mean about all the different rumors
Now that the remaining 10 teams in the Big 12 have decided to stay together it looks like there won’t be any more changes in the near future except for maybe Utah now going to the Pac-10 after all.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
They could go after Texas Tech and force the Big 12’s hand. Tech has yet to publicly commit to the new plan, which currently sucks for them. An argument can be made the Big 12 won’t last a couple years it might be better for Tech to secure a new home now or it could get left out in the cold when conference realignment is brought up again.

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