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The Not-So-Simple Competition for a Roster Spot

Ninjames' Note: Very solid fanpost from Tre9er, as I'm experiencing many technical difficulties in getting some posts up.

One of the most intriguing things to consider as we approach the preseason is the battle one player will have with another at a different position. There comes a point where it no longer is a matter of who will win the second spot in the cornerback battle, when it's not necessarily a mystery who the backup quarterback is. However there's a point where one player's chances depend on the intangible aspect of playing better at his position than another player is at playing a completely different position. You start getting into the blurry mess that is "Can this sixth cornerback be more of an overall contributor than the backup fullback?"

In some recent fanposts, such as this one and this one, there has been some discussion regarding how many offensive linemen will be kept, how many CB's, WR's, etc.  But the landscape starts to change as the final spots come into view.  After the jump let's look at some hypothetical examples.

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For instance, let's look at a guy like Brit Miller.  The team could probably go without a second fullback in 2010.  In 2009 the roster included four RB's (Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Michael Robinson, Moran Norris).  This year you can add Anthony Dixon to that same list.  If Miller is looked at as a FB, the team is going to have six running backs on the roster, two more than 2009.

But when it comes time to "trim the fat", what if Miller is widely held as one of the best special teams players?  We know the value Singletary and company have placed on special teams this off-season.  Miller was a beast on special teams last year and has a full season of experience under his belt now.  If he makes the roster based on special teams you will have to accept the fact that an "extra" RB made the roster.

Or will that be enough?  What if Miller is great in special teams but shows to be an absolutely horrible FB?  Now how does that change things?  Now he's competing solely on a special teams basis, possibly against a LB or a TE, or another position. 

The same argument could be made (as James did earlier today) for Nate Byham.  The team might not really need that third TE.  What if Jimmy Raye decides that there aren't enough plays per game to really warrant keeping him around, yet he's a monster on special teams?  Maybe he shows he can play some backup FB too? 

Then there's a guy like LeRoy Vann, who has immense return potential but would be rostered as a CB, possibly pushing the number of CB's on the roster to six. 

The point is, the "three or four special teams guys" who will make the roster on that premise, will also be guys who play a position...and they will be competing against other guys who play a different position than their own.  The question goes from "Is Karl Paymah better than Keith Smith?"  to "Is Paymah close in ability to Smith and do his special teams abilities put him over the top in terms of overall value?  But wait, is he better in special teams than Jason Hill, a WR?  Who has better overall value to the team?"

So, as you can see there will be much more to the final roster than how many players the perceived "maximum" is for a given position...and at times, we'll see a really big powerful dude competing against a savvy smaller guy...both for the same roster spot.

Here are some bubble players who will be competing for "overall team value" as they are not necessarily needed at their "natural position", or have competition:

Dixon, Miller, Caulcrick, Byham, Finley, Curtis, Ziegler, Jones, Snyder, Boone, Briggs, Mitchell, Burnett, Paymah, Adams, Stoudamire, C. Taylor, R. Smith, Vann

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.

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by Tre9er on Jun 15, 2010 12:58 PM PDT reply actions  

He means 5 runningbacks…….Ferris84 correct?

It's all good!

by ferris84 on Jun 15, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly i'm glad we can have these kind of conversations and smell the grass getting cut,

thats what excites me but we have 2 find a way 2 keep vann,i’m sorry you just have 2 make a ’’exception’’4 some players that has ’’immense’’ talent.Because i this league if you let them go it can turn around and ‘’bite you in the ass’‘so we got 2 keep vaan.But like i said i’m just glad were getting close ,why don’t ya’ll start writing something about ‘’jerry rice’’he’s going into the HOF unless your waiting 2 we get closer 2 it?

by jayjonna415 on Jun 15, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice read Tre.

When are they just going to make you a front page poster already? Anyway, this is an interesting take. When I look at the list you made I honestly don’t have any idea who they might pick. I know there will be some relative surprises, but I guess there are a few that I feel have a better chance of making it to the 53 than others. I feel Dixon has a pretty good chance, as well as Snyder because of his versatility and experience, and Miller because they’ll probably take him for ST. A good portion of that list is DB’s and I’m hoping one or two of these guys step up big in TC.

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by madmatt on Jun 15, 2010 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

im with you matt

There are a few DB’s who I hope make the roster I think the team can keep 5 safeties but the cb’s will be where some goo players have to get cut

by random_guy on Jun 15, 2010 7:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Got 2 at the least leave ''bret miller''on special teams ''he's a heat-seaking missle on STs'',and

we got 2 keep ’’vann’’if he makes 2 STs’’ i garauntee he takes 2 back 2 the house maybe 3’’?

by jayjonna415 on Jun 15, 2010 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Great read

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by PHUT! on Jun 15, 2010 7:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting take

Something for Fooch to take into consideration when he does his 53-man roster projections

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by SportsChicken on Jun 15, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

For some, the hardest to swallow here will be Dixon

Robinson will make the roster, and we’ll have the same backs we did last year in all likelihood. Why then add Dixon unless he really impresses? He’ll be taking someone else’s roster spot.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 5:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I'm so back and forth on this.

I’ll project Gore, Coffee and Dixon, and then the next time it will just be Gore and Coffee. People need to remember that M-Rob is better than most 3rd backs in the league, he is legitimately one of the harder players on the 49ers roster to tackle.

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by James Brady on Jun 16, 2010 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

the problem is

Dixon won’t make it to the PS. I can just about guarantee someone will scoop him. Not sure how much that will play into the decision but worth noting.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

Like last year, everyone has their young stud running back. I don’t think the team ever intended to stash Sheets on the PS. Dixon could squeak by, everyone has their young guy who’s new or a year in. It’s a good chance, obviously, but I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion that Dixon is long gone if we PS him.

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by James Brady on Jun 16, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

you don't think a team like

Seattle would like to have a powerful young guy with all of their questionable RB’s?

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 6:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, I really don't.

It’s possible, but I think he’s not even close to be on their radar. Maybe a team ‘like’ them, but not Seattle specifically. Also remember that there are going to be a ton of backs that will be cut during preseason.

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by James Brady on Jun 16, 2010 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to cry if he's cut

but it’s a nice daydream to imagine a big guy like that with moves (for the open field of course)

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think

that i’d shed half a tear if dixon got cut and didnt even make PS..

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by imjuliooo89 on Jun 16, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

careful to measure that half of a tear carefully

cause if you so much as shed 3/5 of a tear instead I’ll ream you a new one!

Ok, all this talk of coaches ripping players in OTA’s got me fired up.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just another opinion, but it's mine ...

First, I believe that Dixon has enough size, speed and potential that someone else will give him a chance if we put him on the PS.

More important, you seem to giving Coffee a free pass as the #2 RB; I for one am not that impressed; he certainly didn’t cut it last year; maybe with added size he will perform better this year; but I think that the jury is still out on him.

Thus, I think it risky to expose Dixon to the PS until you KNOW that Coffee is really the #2 guy; I think that there is a good chance that Dixon will outshine Coffee during training camp.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Jun 16, 2010 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

pass protection

really, blitz pickup, chip and release (the the right spot the QB expects you to be in)…these things are key, especially to this offense. It’s just a lot to pick up in a few months for a rookie.

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by Tre9er on Jun 17, 2010 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great Problem to have - very strong competition for roster spots

And I second the “great read” comment. If the 52/53rd slot on the roster are our biggest issue this year the Niners are in REALLY IMPROVED shape.

let it be so – - Go Niners

by DrRick009 on Jun 16, 2010 6:47 AM PDT reply actions  

It's far too hard to predict at this point

Tre does have a great point though in that a guy who plays ST well is going to make the roster even if his position is filled already. Like DrRick said above, that’s a pretty good problem to have.

As far as what positions are most likely to take the hit, I think it’s WR and CB. I think our safeties can fill in during passing situations as the extra DBs, so they could go light on CB. The other possibility is they make a tough choice and release one of the backup safeties who hasn’t cracked the starting lineup (Reggie Smith). You would still then have to find someone to let go.

I also think that Dixon has a better chance to stick around than Byham. Dixon can be used in the running game, where Robinson isn’t likely to be given many reps, and he’s bigger so they might try to have him line up as a blocker. I definitely don’t see six RBs making the team, but they could go with five. Biggest question is, does Norris play ST? If not, his value may be seriously diminished.

by 9thevolution on Jun 16, 2010 8:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't believe Norris plays ST's

at least I don’t think he plays on all 4 units.

Smith or Taylor, one is likely to go unless as you say, they see one of them (Smith, a former CB?) able to sub in and play in Dime as 3rd safety/4th CB.

I’d really like to see Ziegler make the team as a tall guy with big good hands, but he’s got so much competition. He too would have to shine on special teams.

Remember the team didn’t have a guy in Dixon’s presumed spot last year…so they could, just remotely possible, decide again not to roster a 3rd tailback.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Norris does play special teams.

On every return unit at least. He’s good out there, too.

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by James Brady on Jun 16, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

why don't you marry him?

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by Tre9er on Jun 17, 2010 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

In that case...

he would have to really be outshined by one of the other potential players (Miller, Byham). I doubt it will happen, and in that case, we should only see 4 RB’s not counting Robinson who’ll likely make it on the strength of his ST play.

by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

IDK

Miller is a beast on special teams too…I think he’ll get on if he doesn’t completely suck as a FB.

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by Tre9er on Jun 17, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then would he replace Robinson or Dixon?

I just can’t see them keeping 6 RBs considering none of them can move to WR or TE and be interchanged. I think doing that would leave us desperately short at another position and one injury could really hurt an individual unit.

by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't have to replace a RB

remember, the point of this post is that it’s not intra-positional battles always.

Maybe he does replace Dixon, who isn’t a lock anyways, but he could also replace Byham, a 7th DL, or a 6th WR.

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by Tre9er on Jun 17, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

see my bubble players above

Miller is competing with Dixon, Byham, Zeigler, Briggs, Wilhelm, Adams, Paymah, Taylor, R.Smith, Vann

you get the idea. These guys each aren’t needed but about half of them will make the roster.

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by Tre9er on Jun 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah forgot intra-positional part...

but I still think that 6 RBs is not gonna happen. If we consider Norris a lock based on solid ST play and being the incumbent, one of three RBs is going to get the axe. I absolutely expect us to be light on WRs this year based on our offensive strategy and Raye’s preference of the two TE sets (which does give us our best matchups).

Let’s go by position:
WR – At least 4 will be kept, which is already light. Crabs and Morgan are locks, and it’s a long shot, but I think Williams is too. I see Ginn holding more value than Hill, Jones and Ziegler because of his return experience. However, if Vann sticks around, Ginn might be exchanged for Hill.

LB – Wilhelm likely gets the axe because we have experienced STers and Bowman is here for the future. McKillop could be a casualty, but I think he’s more valuable than Wilhelm because of his age. Briggs is likely a casualty due to LaBoy, but he will make the PS. We still will carry 8 total LBs, which is just right and leaves no additional spots, but gives us at least 3 STers (LaBoy, McKillop, Bowman).

DL – Really only see Evans as a possible casualty. Leaves us with 6 and one less than last year.

OL – I think we keep the same amount of players as last year (8). The only difference is who the backups are. Think Sims stays over Boone, but Baas makes it over Wragge and Snyder stays as potentially a starter early in the season.

DB – I think here is where we have the biggest ?. Do we only keep 8, or do we keep 9 or 10? All the backups here have ST value, except maybe Mays if they don’t want him getting banged up. I think this is the group where they go heavy. The only question I have is do they go heavy at safety (more likely) or CB? And if they do, who’s the casualty? Vann could make it over Adams as the 5th CB if he can return well, and we could keep all 4 safeties from last year plus Mays.

I just think that RB isn’t as likely to be overcrowded as DB is. And then there’s the question of Byham or an additional FB? Geez, that was long.

by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not real comfortable

with Bowman on ST’s, he’s young and promising, would hate to lose him to injury…but I suppose we don’t have a choice. If LaBoy is in the OLB rotation (heavily) I wouldn’t really want him on every unit of ST’s either honestly…I would prefer to roster 9 LB’s and have Briggs play ST’s.

I agree, Wilhelm is probably gone.

DL – agree

OL – agree, though I hope Boone makes it to PS and stays there all year.

DB – I think you need 4 safeties minimum (one backup for each spot, 3rd safety for dime/quarter) and 5 CB’s because of quarter coverage and special teams. I say 10 depending on R.Smith and C.Taylor. If both look good, they’re draft picks, they’ve been here a year or two…they stay. Good point about Vann, though I had him as a specialty player (though technically he’s a DB). I will post a roster prediction in a while so you can see what I mean.

Don’t forget TE, I really don’t see Byham making it unless he’s a beast in ST’s and in that case he probably pushes Miller off the roster, maybe even a Safety.

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by Tre9er on Jun 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was going to put TE down, but didn't think it necessary...

since the focus is on the backfield right now. If they feel Byham can move into the backfield in certqain situations, are they going to try Miller as a blocking TE? For these guys who are on the bubble, it’s all about versatility. While Miller is gonna be better on ST right away from experience, if Byham can do the same things and more on offense, he will hold more value. I think that between Miller and Byham, it’s going to come down to how many RBs we roster. If Dixon goes to the PS or Robinson is cut (doubt this happens), Miller has a chance. If both MRob and Dixon make it, Miller is likely out for Byham.

by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking more and more each day...

…that only one of Coffee and Dixon will make the 53-man roster.

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by James Brady on Jun 17, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they keep Byham...

I think that’s a definite. Would rather see both stick around, but don’t know who to sacrifice besides MRob. Doubt that would happen because of the focus on ST.

by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

add Miller into that

and how many DL’s, Safeties, and specialists (Vann) make it.

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by Tre9er on Jun 17, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would hate to lose

well either of them but I’m holding out big hopes for Dixon. Trying not to look on Coffee’s last year production too negatively due to our line but it still nags at me. Just being honest.

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jun 27, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

McKillop is a virtual lock, he’s our Jeff Ulbrich of the future.

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by James Brady on Jun 17, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I didn't think they'd get rid of him after one year.

He’s still PS eligible, but I think he’d get taken if placed there. Wilhelm was insurance if they didn’t get to draft Bowman, so I think he’s gone after camp. He could easily be one of the first cuts too.

by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not PS eligible.

He played a full season on the active roster.

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by James Brady on Jun 17, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I built my 53, I factored in the PS (probably dumb 'cause they can be claimed by other teams, but I did it that way)

My 53: “O”- 24, “D”- 24, “ST”- 5

My “O”: 8 OL (1 more on PS), 2 TE (1 more on PS), 5 WR (1 more on PS), 3 QB (1 more on PS), 3 RB, 1 FB. That’s 22. The other 2 to be selected from an extra TE, FB, or WR, with ST performance a major factor in this selection, unless there’s an extra “D” player with such exceptional ST skills to warrant selecting him over the “O” player.

My “D”: 6 DL (1 more on PS), 9 LB [4 inside, 4 outside, 1 more (either inside or outside) to be selected based upon the best ST contributor], 9 DB (3 more on PS) [4 CB, 4 S, 1 more (either CB or S) to be selected based upon the best ST contributor].

(I have PS’d 3 DBs, thinking that DB is probably our weakest/oldest overall unit, I’m keeping 3 younguns hoping 1 or more will develop)

My ST: 1 PK, 1 P, 1 LS, 1 RS (I’m rooting for Vann here), 1 Capt (MRob)

The only places I’d feel more comfortable having another rostered player would be on the OL and the DL, but I have PS’s one player for each.

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 17, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree with that

I’d take 1 more for Offense, Miller or Byham (whomever is best for ST’s) or possibly Zeigler and give the other to defense.

On defense I’d like 5 CB’s and 5 Safeties, or 6 CB’s and 4 safeties. I’d like to keep one of the youngsters on the roster if possible for ST’s and to get reps (Taylor, Smith, Adams, Stoudamire, etc.). I like 9 LB’s because I’d like to see Burnett or Briggs make the roster.

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by Tre9er on Jun 18, 2010 5:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I actually started plugging players into the slots:

Miller was on my 53, Byham on my PS, I waived Zeigler (that was tough for me, I like him).

10 DBs is a lot. I kept 9, 4 CBs (1 from Paymah, Keith Smith, and James, the other 2 waived) and 5 safeties (because Reggie Smith has also played CB). That 10th DB would have to be a VERY, VERY good STer to justify this. I PSd CBs Adams and Stoudamire, and S Maragos.

LB: Briggs made my 53, as did LaBoy (kept 5 OLB), waived Wilhelm, but those 3 will undergo reevaluation once camp gets underway and they put on the pads [actually, this whole thing will].

After reading about all the difficulty Vann’s having catching punts in practice, my “man crush” on him is rapidly disintegrating. Too bad, I found him intriguing. Kick and punt returner, CB, and was playing a little slot receiver and COP RB. All that versatility, and he can’t hang on to the damn ball….. whooda thunk?

Overall, I’m hoping that about 3-4 young guys get severe hangnails during training camp, so we can stash them on IR all season, let them work on their bodies (like Boone did all last season/off season) without the risk of another team claiming them.

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 18, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

the best part of all this is

that we want extra guys at each position (most of them) and we can justify the talent we have in making the roster…so if there’s an injury in camp, we’ve clearly got the depth to push through.

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by Tre9er on Jun 18, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's exciting to have enough talent that when we waive players

several are likely to be picked up by other teams…

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 18, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

exciting, yet depressing

cause they’re good enough you wish you could stash them in the freezer

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

That would sure make things easier...

I’ve been debating Smileyman on another thread on Sims vs Boone. The ideal situation would be to store Boone in the freezer for a year, or IR him with a hangnail, keep Sims for one more year and let Boone keep working on his body and the playbook. I hate the idea of losing this very promising young talent to another team, who will most certainly claim him if we try to PS him…

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 22, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

i like the IR idea

wonder how technical they are about that? someone help me out here?

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you put a player on IR they can't practice at all at the facility

It would be a waste because he wouldn’t be improving at all, or at least not practicing his technique.

by 9thevolution on Jun 23, 2010 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

how does the PUP list work?

doesn’t that buy you 6 weeks?

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by Tre9er on Jun 23, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

dont think it does

until 6th week, then you have to cut or they are on roster. Could be a good delay…but again, can he practice?

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by Tre9er on Jun 24, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

No practice on PUP

You can be present at team meetings and practices, but can only do rehab type work with the trainers. Least, that’s the way I see it. Sure there are rules against practicing when you are supposed to be physically injured.

by 9thevolution on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely wouldn't need to replace a HB.

Especially not M-Rob.

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by James Brady on Jun 17, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren't Coffee and Dixon

basically two sides of the same coin? I like Coffee ( think he deserves a solid chance to show himself ) but if Dixon is a real beast ( is better ) then I can’t see keeping him too.

Great post BTW.

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by riderless on Jun 16, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Dixon has a bit more juke in him

whereas Coffee is a straight ahead runner. Coffee got pretty decent in pass protection in his first year so he will have a leg up in that department. That stuff isn’t easy to learn for a rookie.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

what about kyle williams?

Would he be in the bubble too or is he going to most likely make the team?

by MaxH on Jun 16, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

well, the feeling is

that he’s a relative lock because of his true slot receiver build/skills, something the team hasn’t had in some time.

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by Tre9er on Jun 16, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

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