Just enjoy the coffee
Yesterday I noticed i missed out on a pretty in depth coffee vs dixon rant. So here's my 2 cents for what its worth. We have a potential HOF'er in Gore and there's such a strong feeling on who should back him up to help keep him healthy and get him there. I like both guys and for there individual purposes. Like Gore I see Dixon as that guy who can give you the jump out your seat with excitement moment. Maybe even the potential replacement for Frank when his deal is up.But also like Frank I see the way he carries the ball and a potetial to match frank's tendency to put it on the ground. Frank has 22 fumbles total in his 5 years 15 lost which is A LOT 4.4 per year.
Now to Coffee nothing pops out at you with the guy. Yeah compare him and Dixon in college its not even close. You can do the whole put Dixon on bama and he would have been the best ever or whatever and put Coffee at MIss and he wouldn't even have been drafted scenario's. However Glen is in the perfect mold of a Singletary player. He "works his tail off", takes to coaching and is a great guy off the field. But his most valuble asset is something whoever taught him glen should thank always. The way the guy carries the ball! I feel very confident that by the time his 3 years are up here and its time to move on and teach some younger guy on another team what he learned from coachs like Singletary and Rathman he will have under 3 fumbles total.
This was the first thing I noticed about the guy last year in pre season. He runs tough doesn't look to make someone whiff and carries the ball high and tight PERFECTLY! If he could bulk up to NFL size he would be a nice compliementary back to Gore. Well it seems that hes definately gotten bigger and behind a bigger stronger line Im sure glen can pick up the 3 or 4 yards when you need them and never put the ball on the ground. One of Singletarys biggest things is not turning it over and even undersized and taking the shots rather than giving them Coffee never came close to putting the ball on the ground. Something that will keep him around for the rest of his deal.
To me if Coffee was the type to put the ball on the ground he would be gone already since he doesn't have that WOW factor to make you forgive some of the fumbles like frank can and possibly Dixon.So all Im saying is guys like it or not Glen is gonna be here for 3 more years, so just enjoy the coffee and feel good in knowing that when he does carry the ball you won't have to scream at your t.v. "Damn it Coffee, How could you fumble? You suck!" It will be more like "Good job glen way to get 3, 4 yards and give frank or anthony a break. Now get out so they can make a sportscenter top 10 play."
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i completely agree =] haha…
honestly all that you said is very valid. just like the DAVIS v. BROWN arguments (which i just want whoever is the better QB) the COFFEE v. DIXON argument for me is just whoever is better and gets the job done. I’ve mostly come to this conclusion because Coffee did bulk up and he most likely still has his speed, and maybe he even got his speed up a bit. So at this point, I just want the best player for the job. BUT if we can have all three, Gore, Coffee, Dixon (most likely in that order) then i’d be ectatic.
you always got something good to say DreZ. applause haha
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thanks man
it just seems like everyone is caught up in stats and such. I think we have the 3 backs were gonna have for the next 3 yrs. Honestly I dont even think Coffee has “speed” like break a 60 yard run speed but i can see plenty of 10 to 40 yard bursts from the guy. And never worrying about him fumble, I mean on NFL network there showing the vikings backs practice with a special ball just Adrian Peterson doesn’t know how to carry a football.
Glen carrys the ball perfect he strikes me as a guy who will have a nice journey man career play for 2 or 3 teams and be a good RB coach someday cuase what he lacks in raw ability he makes up for with solid fundamentals.
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anytime
and yea i can see him being a journeyman, but that is if he doesnt burst out of the wood work with skills that would surprise everyone! but he will definately be a solid RB that can get us the yardage we want and then some.
But like i said, best man for the job. if we keep all 3, happy days, if not then oh well.
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Hey drez,all that writing and all you could come up 4 coffee ,is aah yea he doesn't fumble WTF?Are you serious
basically your putting coffee on ‘’ michael robison ’’level who’s straight up ‘’ garbage ’’ 2 me coffee may doesn/t have that Wow factour 2 you but ive seen him break-off some big plays at ‘’ bama’‘.Damm after a 1yr running behind a ’’suspect’’ OL and its aaah ‘’he hold the ball high and tight’‘what?He looked real good in pre-season espcially on ’’sweep lpays’’thn all of sudden ‘’jimmy raye’‘stop calling those plays he had some success in ’’pre-season’’.Don’t get me wrong ‘’i like dixon alot’‘but the way your putting coffee out there like he’s a ‘’bum who doesn’t fumble’’is some BS.I’m sorry i don’t think coffee has gotten a ‘’fair-shake’‘now if he comes out this year and his game ’’falls off’’which i doubt,i’ll be the first 2 call him a bum ive suffered 4 or 5 yrs with michael robison ‘’Mr.Utility’‘who was a bum and ive haven’t heard ’’near’’the amout of critazizing that i hear about ‘’coffee’ now thats some BS!!!
Your writing makes my head hurt.
It was thought that the "Hanger" beat all shots. Then, the "Balancer" was discovered.
You guys got me thinking about college career stats for these two guys ...
Coffee’s career at Alabama —
410 carries for 2,107 yards and a 5.1 yards-per-carry average
42 receptions for 351 yards and a 8.4 yards-per-reception average
NO mention of fumbles anywhere on the Alabama website — sounds like Saban!
Dixon’s career at Mississippi State —
910 carries for 3,991 yards and a 4.4 yards-per-carry average ( 5.4 YPC in Sr. year)
Zero fumbles! (in over 900 carries — WOW!!)
56 receptions for 449 yards and a 8.0 yards-per-reception average
Coaches and teammates referred to him as “Bell cow”
Pretty interesting, huh? These guys plus Frank behind our “new and improved OL”.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jun 16, 2010 4:42 PM PDT reply actions
OK F***K IT!!!
WE HAVE TO KEEP BOTH NOW!!! ANY WAY WE CAN WE HAVE TO!!!!
haha. but honestly, i really want BOTH on the starting team if we can, because they can/possibly will be the future after Gore. that is if they can impress, which for both it looks like they can with the Upgraded O-Line.
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what will happen
is if this line stays together for the next 10 years meaning these 2 studs pan out. It wont matter what back you put back there hes going to produce
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true
(in an annoying 5 year old child’s whiney voice)BUT I LIKE THESE 2 GUYSSSSSS! i want them i want them i want them!!!!
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Thank you i feel both of these running backs are very good and both should make the roster '' i hope'' both make
the roster ,and their both hell of ’’talented’’,maybe i’m ’’championing’coffee ‘’2 much’’ i just hate 2 hear people calling him ‘’a bust’‘when he hasn’t got near a ‘’fair chance’‘.With this OL and are ’’OL coaches’’he should do well if he doesn’t (bleep) him like some people already feel.
by jayjonna415 on Jun 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, beat me to it.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Fumbles are not recorded by ESPN for college players dude
Dixon did fumble when he was in college, I can guarantee it.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Go through the individual game stats ... be my guest!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jun 17, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
They're still not recorded
He has fumbled.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 18, 2010 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions
i didnt know dixon had 0 fumbles
that is damn impressive. I just assumed because of his shifty style he had put a few on the ground. Feels even better to know dont have to be concerned about fumbles with these guys. I love frank but his fumbles are a problem. But with these 3 I think we’ve got a more than solid backfield for the next 3 years atleast.
I do think coffee will be on another team after his rookie deal though. Use him for the workhorse he is a guy who will do what hes told to the best of his ability and then replace him
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Now that i think of it ''Draz'' you was just giving your opinion .you wasn't
really bashing coffee i just felt you were speaking on dixon highly but really did haven’t good 2 say about coffee either way i got 2 respect your opinion regarrdless how i feel so i apolize .
by jayjonna415 on Jun 17, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
no prob no offence jay
i actually like coffee but for all the guys who bash him i had the 1 thing you cant hate on even if it is"just that he doesn’t fumble. Do i see coffee as someone who has HOF potential…..well NO. But i do see him as someone who will get better and better each year esp. behind our new oline…..HELL YES. He’s gonna get better as he becomes a pro. Lets face it he’s not gifted with spectacular talent, but he does have legit NFL talent. Put it like this if frank got hurt this year or next id be willing to bet coffee could get over 1200 yards behind our new line.
And while he’s learning to be a better pro with things like patience to let a hole develop at least he doesnt fumble. If the guy put the ball on the ground id say let him develop somewhere else. But as long as he has the basics mastered im down to let him grow as a niner.
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oh yeah back to the title too "enjoy the coffee"
i meant for this post to open some people up to just rooting for the guy instead of bashing him for what hes not. I’ll say this and i think we can all agree, even with the terrible opportunity he got last year IF he had fumbled 5 or 6 times in his 80 something carries last year i’d be the first to say get rid of him.
But as a 3rd round rookie i just found his best quality and based it on that. Because no one can argue it. He had 0 fumbles last year pre- season regular season hell i bet he didnt even fumble in practice when bam bam was lighting his tail up! So now for year 2 Im looking for the 3,4 yards a pop and 0 fumbles again and the same from dixon and we dont have to draft a RB for 3 more years
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See above about the Zero fumbles thing
Fumbles aren’t recorded as stats for college players.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 17, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh ...
There not tracked by ESPN, but …
Look at the individual game statistics published by the papers covering the team … four years worth of data!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jun 17, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Way to go!
Not huge in watching college ball, (as the rosters change so much and I live in the South…..UT bias! Pick 1, it don’t matter.) At any rate, from what I hear, both of these guys were absolute BEASTS in college. So, it seem s that finally, the Niners have hit paydirt. Bout time! But I digress, I remember shortly after Glen got hurt, many folks on this site (I won’t say any names, you know who you are….) were callin Glen a bust. And the guy had barely played 4 games!
Now you have hit the motha’load as the Niners will enjoy a luxurey that other teams have runinto the ground. A 3 headed, ground pounding attack, that will eat up yards, as well as clock! And more importantly, in the unlikely even that Frank gets hit with an injury, we stil have 2 more homerun hitters that can get the job done! Talk about a healthy dose of euphoria!
As it sits, if the defense plays as well, if not better than last year, and Alex and the receiver corp gets the time to slice open the opposing D……Ooooooohhhhhhhhh……..I imagine that we might have the same success that the Giants of ’08 enjoyed. Just a thought.
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Very excited
about our backfield. If our OL progresses like we all think they will we will have the basic buiding blocks for a championship team sooner then later.
Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh
Does anybody else remeber when Glen Coffee ripped apart all our pre-season opponents?
This article made me remember and coffee looked like no doubt he was the heir to gores throne but then he kinda choked when the team called his number. I don’t put all the blame on him because gore couldn’t even run efficiently last year behind our o-line
Is this a plea for mediocrity?
Coffee will be in the game when Gore needs a breather. Dixon may not even see a carry this year unless someone gets hurt. Our “backfield” consists of 1 back and 2 backups; there are no indications we will be “running backs by committee”.
I’m glad they don’t fumble, but its hardly a strong point.
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
and not fumbilng is a HUGE point
like i said I’d rather be able to cheer coffee or dixon on for doing what there supposed to do then be cursing them for Fing up.
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positivity is good
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
thats me bro
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Also
at what point do you address any of the issues in the so called “rant”.
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
first off its not a rant
its my opinion of why theres no need to argue whos better coffee or dixon.There was a back and forth of whos better yesterday and these are my thoughts on the subject. Instead of ?ing me. whats your opinion? To have a complete “team” you need complimentary players. Yeah they are both back ups but very capable back ups that when called upon no matter how limited will do their job. For these 2 right now ball security is the most important thing. When they are giving frank a breather we dont need them putting the ball on the ground and potentially costing us games. In my opinion dixon has more “superstar potential” . I just dont see either one as a waste of roster space like some people were claming. So I will root for them to do well as i hope you would. Or maybe your the type that only can cheer for “superstars”
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yes we need complementary players
how does coffee complement Gore when they are both similar in style?
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
because
if coffee’s in he is the same one cut and up the field runner as frank so offense is the same when frank needs a breather. Dixon’s specialty is he is a good runner out the shotgun. But the main thing is when coffee is in this year i expect no less than 3.5yds a carry and 0 fumbles. When dixon is in you might get the spectacular play like frank can provide. I just dont see a reason to cut or trade coffee like some guys. I say hes under contract for 3 more years so use him for what he’s good for and then he’ll be on his way. To me with these 3 i dont think well be drafting a RB for the next 2 years atleast
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I hope Dixon sees the ball this year.
I’m interested to see how they use him in the preseason. Will they call the same plays? Will they use him more in the shotgun and spread sets?
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
i think your right about both
i see it breaking down like this gore with between 280 to 300 carries coffee having somewhere around 60 to 80and dixon having 10 to 50 thats above 400 carries but just a rough guess i think total we run the ball around 500 times this year which is like 31 times a game
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Because they are built differently
you do know that Gore is a small back right?
He’s listed at 5’9 but he’s probably shorter.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 17, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
short maybe
but thick, yes
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short does not mean small
he’s listed at 217 that is big for his height
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And Coffee is supposed to be like 225
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by SportsChicken on Jun 18, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
no coffee
was listed at 6ft 209 last year and looked 205. he’s supposed to be around 215 220 now
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he's closer to Gore's size now
thickness wise, I know he’s got like 3+ inches on him. Gore is around the same weight though. So no, he’s really not a power back still. But he’s no scat back.
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He was supposed to get to 225 this year
To become the “power back”
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 18, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I prefer Dixie Dixon
althought I would give Coffee a chance, it would be at the expensed of Robison which I don’t have a problem with.
If Coffee
really did get us 3 or 4 yards whenever he spelled Frank for a bit I would have no issue with him at all. In fact I was rooting for him to succeed harder than most. I like the additional 15 pounds this year, but that won’t change the fact that he misses holes. Its those no gainers and loss of 1 runs that frustrate the hell out of me. I love what Dixon can bring us in short yardage situations. If he can improve his catching out of the backfield I see him as a legitimate NFL starter. His strength, vision and surprising speed are a great combination. I can see people looking back on him as the steal of this draft. In fact, I could see people saying this class (Mays, Bowman, Dixon, Williams) being one of the greatest steal drafts of all time. Gotta love the direction we’re moving.
In defense of Coffee
I love to see how people think that Coffee is terrible after one rookie season in which he played sparingly and ran behind an incredibly suspect OL. Let me also point out that Coffee isn’t considered a stud RB, thus the 3rd round pick.
I can’t be bothered to pull up stats on the games where he was only relieving Gore for an occasional carry, but I’d like to point out the three games where he played extensively. He played against the Vikings (#2 rushing defense in the league), the Rams (#27 rushing defense) and the Falcons (#10 rushing defense, we also trailed badly the entire game).
Minnesota – 25 carries/54 yards. Not impressive, but I doubt Frank would have done much better that game.
Rams – 24 carries/74 yards. 4 rec/32 yards. He broke a hundred yards total in a game that our offense didn’t have to do much thanks to a ST TD and two defensive TDs.
Falcons – 12 carries/45 yards 1 TD. 4 rec/21 yards. We were down by so much that game, there was no hope for us.
Now, for the ENTIRE REST OF THE SEASON he had 22 carries and 3 receptions.
If we’re going to believe the crap that Gore spews about losing carries effecting his rythm, then shouldn’t the same be true for Coffee?
Just for comparison, Gore’s rookie season contained only one game for 100+ yards rushing (2 for 100+ total) and only three games for more rushing yards than Coffee’s 74 against St. Louis. Those games were against the #13, #14 and #32 rushing defenses in the league that year. The OL was likely better that year as well. He was; however, more consistent and received more carries.
I just think people are making judgement too quickly on Coffee and that he’ll be a solid player in relief of Gore and potentially his replacement for the future. Thought the Dixon pick was a waste and wanted a speedy, shifty RB instead.
good comparison
you raise some valuable points. coffee was not set up to succeed last year, and instead of seeing the writing on the wall with another RB drafted, he’s worked to solidify his position as the number 2 to frank. that’s admirable. it’s the same attitude that propelled frank into a starting role.
that being said, the dixon pick (and signing) was actually pretty smart. the team has a solid competition going with coffee being pushed to see what he’s made of. he’s the number 2 until someone unseats him. and as far as styles go, the niners clearly want a pounding rushing attack, so a shifty back would really be a departure from strategy and challenges their ability to field a capable number 2 to frank
I do understand the pound the ball philosophy...
but I think a shifty back would compliment Gore and Coffee nicely. It’s someone that can catch out of the backfield, move outside to the slot and make something happen with the ball in their hand. However, it has been mentioned that some people think Frank can do all that and I believe he can as well. They just need to focus more on using him creatively instead of the typical “pound the ball” RB. Perhaps that the idea in drafting Dixon to be a "F"ysical runner.
by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
frank can do all that
dude had over 400 yards receiving and 3 receiving TD’s last year. And that was during the growing pains of a new offense, two QB’s, a new WR and a partridge in a pear tree.
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52 receptions!
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averaged well over 300 yards per season
1800 receiving yards, that’s more than Ted Ginn has in his career.
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Don't forget that for a few years
Frank has been the go-to guy for the offense because our receivers have sucked. That’s why his receiving stats are so good. I agree that Frank is capable of doing all those things, but we have to use him that way. Having a two back set with Gore and Dixon, and Gore moving out to the slot would be pretty confusing for defenses playing the run. Gore just has to be more flexible and sacrifice some opportunity to carry the ball.
by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
never had a year under 300 yards receiving
after his rookie year. Has been consistent, 3 seasons over 400 yards, including last.
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That's pretty solid for a back
Hope he can keep it up for a while
by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
i get the feeling
that the niners seek the shifty type after solidifying the line. seems like the young’ns we have up front are being pandered to by running a downhill offense. i hope that we go after that LT type once the line is seasoned and capable of running multiple blocking schemes.
Good point
We’ll keep watch in the future. Just don’t think Sing has a desire for that type of player in his scheme, or rather, philosophy.
by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
this
I don’t think we’ll see a primary back in red n’ gold who’s a CJ type…as much as we might want it.
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Maybe when Johnson takes over as OC he'll push for one
Sing might loosen up and allow some more flexibility in the offensive scheme. Just think he’s having Raye stick with what he knows and what has worked for him.
by 9thevolution on Jun 17, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
really, as long as the back is physical
or Fysical, and can hold up to the rigors of a power run game, I guess it’s possible.
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Two words: Quizz Rodgers.
I wish we would have kept Blount some how he’s vastly more talented than Coffee and Dixon combined.
I think LaGarrette Blount's "leaving" the 49ers for Tennessee was his idea, not ours
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
it was
he had agreed to join the 49ers…then he changed his mind when he realized he would be about 3rd/4th on the depth chart
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+1
very nicely put
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Finally
Some reason.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 18, 2010 1:05 AM PDT up reply actions
3!
in over 900 carries I think thats acceptable
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Coffee has skills
He Will Be Better then most you people think. If i could put money on him being the 2 over dixon i would. everyone was jocking coffee in pre season. then he doesnt play much and his one big start comes against the Vikings and their stud line(he might have started another game but not sure) this off season he added 10-15 pounds of muscle and feels even faster then last season.
I'm thinking Coffee is going to to be one of those guys that's on the roster for a few years but never do much
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Drew K, wassup haven't bumped into ya in a while, I will say that I have to see after this season, if he can play in a game with Smith, and what appears to be a better OL.
We’ve been over this before and we have agreed to disagree, but I am gonna reply, and I’m indifferent because I think RB is not as easy of a transition for guys that aren’t super elusive or quick accelerators. He isn’t as natural as Gore but I still see potential, he had no blocking vs 9 man fronts and didn’t put the ball on the ground as said in the post. If he had the carry instead of Gore, one could only think the Niners would have won the Seahawk game. (just a thought)
Plus, I would have to be willing to give anyone a second chance when all of their playing time was with S Hill. (no disrespect to Hill)
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yeah i tend to agree
but i think he will do much more good than bad in his time here. I highly doubt he gets a 2nd contract with the niners though. So like the title enjoy the coffee
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A Corell Buckhalter type of guy?
I could see that.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 23, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
but I don’t think he’ll ever even have Buckhalter’s average
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maybe not
with last years o line but with the holes iupati is gonna make i see it. I think if this oline pans out it could be like denver when shannahan was there plug in anyone and get 1200 rusher. Put someone special like TD (frank gore) 2000 is possbile. So yeah im saying “if” gore were to have 380 carries plus he could get 2000. However i hope gore stays around 280 to 300 and let coffee dixon help as a team and our “team” can rush for 2500 yards
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If Gore gets that many carries
he will more than likely end up injured. I don’t see Coffee doing much much better….even with an improved Oline (assuming it will be improved). Iupati has issues with holding (which could hurt us potentially), and Davis may not be ready yet.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
But hopefully the opposite of what I said there comes true
And Iupati AND Davis are NFL start ready.
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Amen
I pray that Gore doesn’t get anywhere near 280 carries. 250 max, with 280 total touches (including passes)
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
why
in 06 he had 312 his career high. If he gets 280 that means he plays all 16 games and thats under 20 carries a game avg. Come on guys! I projected franks numbers at around 20 carries a game and 5 receptions. I think 25 touches a game at least is what jimmy would like frank to have
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Because 280 carries is enough to shorten his career
running backs with long careers average about 200-225 carries a season. Any more than that and they significantly increase their chances of injury.
No way does he get 20 carries a game. If we’re ahead late they’ll go to Dixon/Cofee (whomever’s on the roster) as a wear ‘em down guy. If we’re behind late we’ll go the passing game.
15 carries a game with 5-7 receptions. 20 carries once in awhile but not as an average.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Ladanian Tomlinson
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD
2005 San Diego Chargers 16 16 339 1,462 4.3 62 18
2006 San Diego Chargers 16 16 348 1,815 5.2 85T 28
2007 San Diego Chargers 16 16 315 1,474 4.7 49 15
These are his stats from year 5 (were Gore is at) to year 7 these are the years esp. 06 that are going to make LT a hall of famer. Maybe you guys dont see Gore as that but I think he can hit these numbers. Maybe not the 28 rushing TD’s of 06, but I think this offense…well team is going to be “special” for the next decade!
But I’m just a 9er nut maybe you guys are being more realistic based on what you’ve seen for the past decade.
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
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Yeah
and did you see how well he did in 2008 and 2009?
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
yes
but i didnt include those years because these were his prime years where frank is at now. By the time frank gets to year 8 or 9 it may be time to part ways aswell and i LOVE frank. But thats the way the game goes.
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
let me ask this
do you want to see frank with less carries and say around 1100 to 1300 yards because you want him fresh for the postseason? Let’s say 250car. 4.4 avg. thats only 1100 yards we know frank can produce more than that. But if your thinking 3 postseason games 125 plus a game cause he’s still fresh than im with ya. I guess im being greedy and want to see frank approach 2000 yards.
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
all about the overall
i know gore can get more than 1100 yards, but i’d be just fine with something around that number. if we could get an additional 500 to 600 yards from the other guys, we’d have an effective run game. and we’d be wearing down the other guys…not our own guy.
I'd say 300 total touches is good
250 carries and 50 catches.
Then he runs for 600 yards and scores 5 TDs in the playoffs en route to winning Super Bowl MVP…….?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 26, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to tell now, really
I still feel that Coffee can have success as a backup off the bench.
He needs to learn how to spell Gore.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 26, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
G-o-r-e (I'm teaching Coffee how to spell Gore)
yeah, yeah, I know that by “spell Gore”, cm meant to give Gore a breather…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

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