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2010 49ers Roster Projections: Offensive Line

Late last week we took a look at the 49ers roster projections for the defensive line. The general consensus was that Isaac Sopoaga (with 46% of the vote) would be the starting left defensive end by the end of the 2010 season. Kentwan Balmer is back from injury and hopefully can make an impact, but I don't think there is a ton of confidence from the fans.Ray McDonald finished second in the vote, but he seems likely to stick in his role in the nickel defense. He's an impact player, but has yet to prove to be an every-down player.

I thought today we'd move to the other side of the line and discuss an always hot topic, the offensive line. To date we've discussed the d-line, the quarterbacks, the running backs, the fullbacks, the safeties, and the cornerbacks.

The offensive line has seen some important additions this offseason in the likes of OT Anthony Davis and G Mike Iupati. It is way too early to tell what kind of impact they'll make early on, but the team obviously has high hopes for them given their first round draft status. Florida Danny is working on a post about the potential impact of first round picks on the offensive line, which should make for some interesting reading. In the meantime, we'll take a look at the roster projections for the 49ers offensive line.

Locks
Joe Staley, Eric Heitmann, Chilo Rachal, Mike Iupati, Anthony Davis, David Baas, Tony Wragge, Adam Snyder

Bubble
Barry Sims, Alex Boone, Cody Wallace

Long Shot
Brian de la Puente, Chris Patrick, Matt Kopa

Star-divide

Last season the 49ers kept 9 offensive linemen with 2 centers, 3 guards and 4 tackles. If you consider my rundown of locks, bubble players and long shots, you probably have a few questions about locks, most notably the trio of David Baas, Tony Wragge and Adam Snyder. Considering Baas was a second round pick who has shown promise, and can play a mixture of positions, he's not going anywhere, and could very well be starting week 1. The team got him some snaps at center during May OTAs so if he can show some adequate skill there, it only increases his chances of sticking around.

Snyder is in a similar situation because there's a good chance he could be starting week 1 if the rookies don't come on strong enough. Throw in the fact that he can play decently at tackle and at guard, and you really don't give up that kind of versatility. I know he gets a lot of crap from some folks, but as a depth guy I think he's perfect.

Tony Wragge is getting up there in football age (he's 30) but he can still play both guard positions and center if needed and is like an older version of David Baas with a bit less upside. Wragge is signed through this year and I see very little downside to keeping him on the roster at this point.

Where it gets interesting is what looks like a potential 3-way battle for the final roster spot. The 49ers kept 9 linemen last year, and our locks have us at 8. That leaves one spot for a battle between Barry Sims, Alex Boone, and Cody Wallace. The team could very well carry ten offensive linemen, but I'm just not seeing that as there are a variety of other guys who bring more to the table in terms of their respective position.

Barry Sims proved to be an extremely valuable swing man last year, filling in for Joe Staley quite impressively when Staley went down with his knee injury. The team re-signed him to a 1-year deal this offseason, but given how easily cuts can happen, that contract doesn't necessarily mean a whole lot.

Cody Wallace has been sitting around for the last two seasons, finally seeing some playing time late this last year. Eric Heitmann continues going strong, so any chance of Wallace sticking around would seem to be predicated in part on his offering up some depth. For centers, this seems to mean adding a little bit of guard to their repertoire. The problem at this point is that with the team working in David Baas at center a bit, Wallace could find himself bumped even further down the depth chart. Last year I figured the team wanted to bide their time with the youngster, but this year, time may be running out. He hasn't had much of an opportunity in the regular season, but one would imagine if he had shown something more in practice we'd hear about it. Instead we have not. I would say of the three guys on this list, Wallace is the most in danger of not making final cuts.

Alex Boone is a big time wild card for the offensive line. He's not going to be starting anytime soon, but with all the reports of his much better body, he's showing that he does care enough to make the necessary effort to improve. A strong body doesn't mean much if he can't convert that into performance in training camp and the preseason. After spending his rookie season at right tackle, Boone has been getting practice time at left tackle. If he can show sufficient improvement, the team might not want to risk losing him to waivers (while trying to slip him onto the practice squad). I honestly don't know what happens with Boone at this point. Outside of the starters, Boone might be one of the most prominent players to watch once training camp and preseason games gets going.

Poll
Who will be on the 49ers 53-man roster come week 1 of the 2010 regular season?
Barry Sims
183 votes
Alex Boone
173 votes
Cody Wallace
17 votes
Sims, Boone
292 votes
Sims, Wallace
40 votes
Boone, Wallace
34 votes
All three
74 votes
None
19 votes

832 votes | Poll has closed

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Wragge a lock? Hmmm.

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by James Brady on Jun 22, 2010 7:16 AM PDT reply actions  

whats up with that?

I don’t see value in keeping him on the roster

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say going into the offseason he was a lock...

…but with Baas and Snyder, you don’t really need him anymore. Once we saw that Snyder could play five spots, and Baas can play three. Slightly outdated logic that he is a lock but it isn’t out of the realm of possibility.

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by James Brady on Jun 22, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah thats what I'm thinking

RT LT backup could be Boone\Sims
G backup \RT\C Snyder
G backup Bass

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

Snyder and Baas provide good backup for both G positions as well as Center.
Snyder also provides good backup for RT
Sims and Boone could be good LT backup and also with Boone as RT backup.
That gives two backups for every point on the OL.

I also agree that if Boone shows enough promise at LT they will keep him on the 53.
I can’t remember where but I seem remember that Solari liked what he saw in Boone early on.

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by Eastbayjim on Jun 22, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds good but a rookie RT being backed up by basically a rookie RT??

I think Snyder makes the team because of this, but Wragge is on his way out, easy pick to release…

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by rlott#42 on Jun 22, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I have Snyder in my 9

But I’d prefer Boone take over the backup at RT\LT. If he really was a second round talent, he has done everything thus far to achieve that potential. We may end up with an extra starting quality tackle!

We could be in position to make a trade.

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's just that we would have two RT's who have never played a live NFL snap.

Snyder was bad, but the learning curve on not one but two tackles may be too much for Rachal and Smith to handle. But when I think about Snyder’s performance last year, it may be back to 09 for them too.

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by rlott#42 on Jun 22, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to clear up what you are saying

because you only play one RT so are you saying that as if Davis would not start right away? Otherwise, I don’t see why it would be important the kind of learning curve Boone takes.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Jun 22, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm saying in the event of an injury to Davis, I have him starting outright.

If Boone is ahead of Snyder on the depth chart, you knw what I’m sayin’?

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by rlott#42 on Jun 22, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got it now

Didn’t think about injuries. But it’s tough to say who will be the backup. Snyder will probably make the team because he can play guard as well. I think if Boone makes the roster, it would be as backup RT.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Jun 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boone would have to be a swing guy

I believe. Otherwise he’s pushing Sims off the roster, or Baas. In that case who’s the backup LT?

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by Tre9er on Jun 23, 2010 2:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sims is Boone's direct competition

Unless Davis looks stellar in camp and Snyder is thought of as purely a tackle (ie. his guard/center play isn’t good). But then you’ve got Davis backed up by Boone and nobody else. If Snyder makes it ALONG with Boone, you at least have a veteran (albeit one who played poorly) as the backup…not just a kid.

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by Tre9er on Jun 24, 2010 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup

and Baas makes it before Boone or Snyder

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by smileyman on Jun 24, 2010 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

that makes sense

Wragge is probably closer to the bubble with Baas getting time at center.

by David Fucillo on Jun 22, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

i know

Baas is probably the closest thing to a lock although I wont say he’s 100%

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

with Baas playing for his spot\life

we could get a lot out of him in the first few games

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

assuming he's healthy, not keeping Baas on the 53-man would be plainly stupid

He had an up and down season last year, but in the second half (when he was healthy), he was really quite good—particularly in the run game as a pulling guard. He was they key o-lineman in the MNF victory over the Cards.

I'm just not sure how much worse what Vick did than what "Ben" did. Glad he's not a Niner.

by grantmp on Jun 22, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Imagine Iupati

pulling

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a wonderful sight that I hope to see very soon!!!

Can you imagine a Linebacker or (Shudder!) a DB coming up to plug the hole and they see 300+ lbs of South Pacific Muscle barreling toward them with a wicked grin on his face? If they were smart, they would dive at his legs and try to roll away before getting crushed! If Iupati can pull, it would be a huge boost to our running game! Gore ran for over a 1000 yards behind a line that didn’t really make any holes for him last year. IMAGINE our much our running attack would improve with the young rookies they drafted in the first round. Gore may have a Career year! Coffee, having gotten a taste last season, will look much better this year. And our wild card is Dixon, who is huge with very quick feet. I am stoked to think of the power running game of the Niners with a lead and the ball late in the fourth quarter of a game! I hope they can grind out those yards to win games this year!

Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!

by FaStRmAn on Jun 22, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Iupati WILL pull

you’ll see it in the very first game, I guarantee it. LG traps were very common last year with Baas in there and Iupati is just as athletic if not more.

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by Tre9er on Jun 23, 2010 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

That pull with Baas

was our most effective run play. It always seemed to work. We used it almost exclusively on that MNF game against the Cardinals and Gore got big yardage out of it.

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by smileyman on Jun 23, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

and now there’s gonna be more nasty involved

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by Tre9er on Jun 24, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's part of what makes him so special

He’s actually fantastic at pulling.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jun 24, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boone

Have there been discussions on NN about the fact that Boone has been working at LT?
Its starting to seem more and more like if we don’t put him on the 53 that someone else will. In that interview they suggested he was a 2nd rounder?

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 7:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I do believe Boone's off field problems were what dropped him from the 2nd or 3rd round.

He seems to have gotten his head on straight and is working hard to be a Sing type of player.

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by Eastbayjim on Jun 22, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

he a drunken college kid

who acted stupid and paid for it. Looks like he’s got his life turned 180 now. We better roster him or somebody else will.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jun 22, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

what we know

is that Sims wasn’t good at RT, but was borderline great at LT…maybe it was just that nobody was good early on.

Snyder on the other hand never played particularly well at RT but always wanted to play G exclusively, as he thought he could be good at it if allowed to focus on it. Now he’s showing he can play some Center too.

Boone meanwhile seems like he could possibly be a swing tackle as he’s very big but apparently quick enough to get some reps at LT.

Wragge is the incumbent for the G/C dressing backup…that’s about all we can say.

I think Boone stands a good chance to make it as a swing tackle if he has a good camp.

Then you’ve got one spot for G/C (dressing backup) which would be between Baas, Wragge, and Snyder at this point.

Then you’ve got either a backup T or G. Perhaps Snyder makes the roster because he can “kinda” play both, and maybe he’s better at T this year than last.

So I’d say Boone, Baas, Snyder is a very versatile group of backups. Boone does have to beat out the veteran Sims though.

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 7:44 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think there is a good chance the following 9 make the 53. It gives multiple backups for both G, C and RT/LT

Joe Staley
Eric Heitmann
Chilo Rachal
Mike Iupati
Anthony Davis
David Baas
Adam Snyder
Alex Boone
Barry Sims

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by Eastbayjim on Jun 22, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looks a bit Tackle-heavy...

but that’s exactly the line-up I would’ve come up with.

Here’s how it looks on a depth chart:
LT: Staley, Sims, Boone
LG: Iupati, Baas, Snyder
C: Heitmann, Baas
RG: Rachal, Baas, Snyder
RT: Davis, Sims, Snyder, Boone

Now, the next question is whether Boone will play well enough that we can drop Snyder off that list entirely. The Tackle-heaviness of that set of 9 suggests that the team might be better served by subbing out Snyder for Wragge. That would yield the following depth chart:
LT: Staley, Sims, Boone
LG: Iupati, Baas, Wragge
C: Heitmann, Baas, Wragge
RG: Rachal, Baas, Wragge
RT: Davis, Sims, Boone

Assuming that Boone becomes the player we all hope he can become, I hope the second option is the one that ends up happening.

I'm just not sure how much worse what Vick did than what "Ben" did. Glad he's not a Niner.

by grantmp on Jun 22, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

also...

the latter option (Staley/Heitmann/Rachal/Iupati/Davis/Baas/Wragge/Boone/Sims) gives the team more flexibility going forward. Assuming that Baas and Sims aren’t back next year, you want to have a back-up Tackle with starting potential (Boone) and a solid back-up Guard with some youth (Wragge) rather than a bench-player only Guard-Tackle (Snyder).
I still think it’s more likely that Wragge’s dropped and Snyder makes the 53-man, but I’d prefer that Wragge make the 53-man.

I'm just not sure how much worse what Vick did than what "Ben" did. Glad he's not a Niner.

by grantmp on Jun 22, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dog

Wragge is 30.

Short of the fountain of youth, his upside is minimal.

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm

you’re probably right, then.
I thought he was like 27. My bad.

I'm just not sure how much worse what Vick did than what "Ben" did. Glad he's not a Niner.

by grantmp on Jun 22, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

all good

I’m just not real high on Wragge for more than stopgap player. I think Boone needs to make the squad this year or he’s signed by someone else.

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

so would you rather have Sims and Boone or Boone and Wragge?

I'm just not sure how much worse what Vick did than what "Ben" did. Glad he's not a Niner.

by grantmp on Jun 22, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boone and Snyder

and Baas. Two backups for G/C and two backups for RT, one for LT.

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by Tre9er on Jun 23, 2010 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Boone has shown enough just getting in shape

to at least get signed to somebody’s PS. There are not very many athletic men at 325+ lbs who come out of the the Big 10. And the few that do get drafted/make a roster, and are given a shot somewhere. Boone is a very interesting player. He went from drunken car smasher who was out of shape and nearly out of football to giving his all on the practice squad last season and then showing the necessary dedication to get into great shape and redesign his body into a physical specimen! He is just the kind of reclamation project that Singletary LOVES. If Solari is high on this kid, he is gonna make the 53 man roster. I am pulling for Boone not just because I am a Ohio State fan, but because I love a good rags to riches story. Imagine if this kid can play and he becomes part of the young cohesive unit along with Iupati and Davis? They could be playing for many years to come.

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by FaStRmAn on Jun 22, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

he changed his drug of choice

from boozing to working out all the time. That’s the kind of guy that won’t get lazy either.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jun 24, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snyder would also be 3rd center

so basically he’d be a 4-5 position depth guy.

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm on the Boone bandwagon ...

…i’ve seen this plenty of time’s , when you think your untouchable and then reality smack’s you in the face , a little humility goes along way,i think his rock has hit bottom and he’ll enjoy the climb…!!

Kewl

by Edggy on Jun 22, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

tre9er summed my thoughts up perfectly

I want to add that I think Barry Simms has legitimate trade value in this league. He has proven that he can play Left Tackle at a competent level, say league average.

Somewhere in the league is a team that could use an upgrade right now at LT. Somewhere else is a team that will need an upgrade by the end of preseason due to injury.

If Solari thinks Boone can handle the position, after practice starts, I expect to see the Niners shop Simms for a Cornerback, Fullback, or a 3rd through 5th round draft pick in the future, possibly packaged with another NFL caliber player having a hard time fitting on our roster, Brandon Jones.

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by connie mack on Jun 22, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

trade options

Interesting: BJ + Sims for a CB would be about the Niners’ best case scenario.

I'm just not sure how much worse what Vick did than what "Ben" did. Glad he's not a Niner.

by grantmp on Jun 22, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be all over that

BJ is as good as some team’s current starters and can definitely add depth. Sims did play well last year. Give me someone who can immediately play Nickel while challenging Nate/Tae for the starting spot and I’ll pull the trigger on that deal.

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

but who

would take up BJ’s contract?

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 23, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

restructure

hey, it’s in his best interest. Otherwise he’s getting cut.

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by Tre9er on Jun 24, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

his year-on-year salary isn't terrible, is it?

the Niners would be on the hook for his guaranteed money anyway, so if he’s getting cut, why not get something for him?

I'm just not sure how much worse what Vick did than what "Ben" did. Glad he's not a Niner.

by grantmp on Jun 24, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

or a returner.

They're called RUNS for a reason.

by connie mack on Jun 22, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Returner?

Are you saying trade a returner or trade for a returner, I see that we have at least 3 competent returners right now.

by jobharve on Jun 22, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

we have a bunch of guys who are all having a hard time catching the ball thus far

and none of them has been a punt returner in the past few years in the NFL. Not saying we’re in bad shape but if you could get a proven PR who has a few successful seasons doing it, and offers you something at another position, maybe Dime CB or something…

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m still freaked out about punt returns

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 23, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

can't blame ya

after last year and what we’ve heard thus far in the off-season

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by Tre9er on Jun 24, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Wragge is a lock while Sims is on the bubble. Don’t know about that one. This is how I’d select the O-Line:

Starters (from LT to RT):
Joe Staley
Mike Iupati
Eric Heitmann
Chilo Rachal
Anthony Davis

Backups:
Barry Sims- LT
David Baas- all interior
Adam Snyder- RT and both Guards

Would love to see Boone make it as some sort of utility guy. But the team might have some problems trying to roster more then 8 O-Linemen.

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by Hoopers Judge on Jun 22, 2010 10:21 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

What I’m getting at is that there is absolutely no one on the roster that can play backup LT (which most people will agree is the most important O-Line position) at the same level that Barry Sims can. Not having a good backup LT is just asking for bad things to happen.

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by Hoopers Judge on Jun 22, 2010 10:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

going into last year

Sims was a huge question mark himself. He couldn’t play RT (which I’m sure didn’t inspire much confidence in him playing LT) yet he ended up doing a good job later in the year. So at this point I don’t think we know who else could be a potential LT. Boone certainly is a big, fairly agile guy who’s gotten reps there. Let’s see when the pads go on. We could all be surprised.

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah can't argue with that

funny he played so poorly at RT, and virtually locked down the LT. Although you could also make the argument that having Smith over Hill\Sullivan could account for the difference.

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

but going into the season we didn’t expect that kind of performance. Similarly we may end up with a surprise performance in camp, pre-season, etc. by a guy like Boone or even (yes) Snyder.

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by Tre9er on Jun 23, 2010 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only because he failed at RT, he was an all-pro LT early in his career. If his snaps are down he will stay fresh, he is perfect for LT backup.

Boone hasn’t hit the field, he may be able to hide on the PS another year, unless there is an injury.

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by rlott#42 on Jun 23, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

not with the body transformation and the "Fringe" show

a former big-10 Tackle who fell from grace and has turned his life around? Teams will jump on that and there are enough teams who need help on the O-Line that he has value.

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by Tre9er on Jun 24, 2010 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow is right

completely disagree with these projections Fooch

Lock as starters: Staley, Iupati, Heitmann, Rachal, Davis
Lock as backups: Sims as backup tackle, Baas as backup guard and center, Snyder as backup guard and center

Bubble: everybody else, with Alex Boone leading the charge

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by smileyman on Jun 22, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Sims

Sims was very solid at left tackle last year, pretty abysmal as right tackle before that. Wragge can backup at 3 different positions. If I was going to change it I might move Wragge down to somewhere between bubble and lock, but I’m convinced he has a better shot of making the roster than Sims.

by David Fucillo on Jun 22, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not

You want a guy as your backup that you’re 100% confident of. Wragge’s not that guy nor is any of the other guys we’ve got.

Now Wragge might very well develop into that guy and I wouldn’t be surprised if he got called up to get some reps in, but Sims will be here for this next year and then be gone.

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by smileyman on Jun 22, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

he did

but Staley played with Hill in there, and we all know what that offense looked like…

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jun 22, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to sort of agree with both smiley and HJ, to a point...

I agree with HJ that we’ll only have 8 OL on the 53 man roster, and my 8 are those smiley proposes as “locks”, with 1 exception… I keep Boone rather than Sims.

I realize that I’m battering the deceased equine here, but Sims is 35 and Boone is only 23, and if we try to PS Boone he’ll be claimed off waivers by somebody else (I felt this way BEFORE Boone was being featured on the NFL Network, but now you can take it to the bank).

In addition, we should PS one of Brian de la Puente, Chris Patrick, Matt Kopa, depending upon which one performs better in camp (assuming all have PS eligibility remaining—does Wallace have PS eligibility?)

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 22, 2010 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

de la Puente

has been on our PS before. Chris Patrick has been with a half-dozen different teams (twice with the 49ers). I was going to PS someone besides de la Puente it would be Matt Kopa.

I know Sims is 35, but I think his position is guaranteed for this year at least. You want a backup at LT that you know 100% can do the job. We don’t know that about Boone or Patrick or Wallace or any of those other guys. We know for sure Snyder can’t do it.

IMO Sims is fine for one year (he showed no sign of slowing down last year and IMO played just as well as, if not better than, Staley) whilst we groom another backup.

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by smileyman on Jun 22, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm aware of the history of de la Puente and Patrick, but Kopa has a foot injury

and hasn’t seen the field in OTAs, and may never be physically able to perform. I feel that we do need to PS at least one OL. So who has PS eligibility?

I’d agree with you that Sims would be fine for one year, but I don’t see how we can keep both Sims and Boone, and Boone’s upside is such that I don’t want to risk losing him to another team. We obviously have different philosophies on this, and will never agree, so let’s just agree to disagree, and move on…

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 22, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I firmly believe Boone would not survive on the PS

without getting plucked

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by Tre9er on Jun 22, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wholeheartedly agree!!!!

After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.

by OldJock on Jun 23, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

see above

the fact that he’s conquering his demons (the only reason he went undrafted, ie. the only reason teams didn’t want him before, ie. the only reason he sucked last off-season…drinking, weight) and he’s got notoriety from the Fringe show now (no, not the J.J. Abrams one, although that would be interesting if Boone were really possessed by some alien life form)

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by Tre9er on Jun 24, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It really depends on how many linemen we keep

If we do 8 I think Boone is gone, unless we swing a trade for Baas before the season starts (which is what I would do).

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by smileyman on Jun 22, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

there may be a nick in camp

or preseason that makes up our mind for us

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by Tre9er on Jun 23, 2010 2:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Cody Wallace is almost definitely a goner… question to me is do we keep 2 or all three of Sims/Boone/Wragge. As long as Boone continues to show improvement, I think he probably sticks around. Sims v. Wragge may come down to how good Anthony Davis is looking by the end of training camp. If he looks ready to start, then Snyder gets to be the top backup at tackle and Sims may not be as important to keep around. If, on the other hand, Davis doesn’t look ready, the team may feel the need to keep Sims around as an insurance policy should a tackle get hurt.

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jun 22, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions  

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