UPDATED: The Great Madden NFL 11 49ers Fanpost (Ratings Discussion)

They try and rate the tight ends on a scale for tight ends but it DOES have an affect outside of the position. He needs to be higher than the rest of the tight ends but based on the routes and the way tight ends operate on the game, their coding in the engine (which is unique, by the way), it needs to be a certain speed. You don’t compare a 92 TE with a 92 RB but a 99 TE will still be unstoppable on the game – and he is stoppable in real life. There’s a point where it breaks the game.

Once you start getting near 99 then you start comparing with the fastest of other positions. VD isn’t as fast as Chris Johnson. I think 93-95 is a great speed for him and will be lobbying accordingly.

Burst is that initial burst from contact with the quarterback. Gore always has a considerable burst when he takes a hand-off.. it’s like.. BAM, he got the handoff, and now ACC kicks in to determine how fast he gets to his top speed in the second level.

then they are behind trying to make up ground. Even if they are faster than him they have to gain back all that space.

It’s fine, he’s plenty fast. His speed doesn’t hurt him.

exceptional pass blocker, lousy run blocker. I agree with Heitmann as 10-15 ranking for center

If Staley is a 15-20 LT, and Heitmann is a 10-15 center and you have to be better to play the LT position, then it would stand to reason that Staley is the best O lineman….Period. Besides, I have never heard…not one single time…ever….that any media or comentator thinks that Heitmann is the best lineman we have….They always say it is Staley….

I like Staley, bet feel like Heitmann would be easier to replace if injured.

The game is going to be broken no matter what.

While I believe he does deserve a little bit more strength, the top strength for a safety is 80 I believe, so if that is the top, then where do you think Mays belongs ratings-wise?

Yeah, a lot of scouts had McCoy better than Suh even though McCoy only did 23 reps at the bench while Suh did 32 reps. So would the teams that rated McCoy better know what they are doing even though Suh had the better college stats and better Combine?

Not great but serviceable.

with nothing to inspire Taylor to greatness that Burnett could very well have ended up better. The way it played out Taylor will be an all-pro.

it’s about different team needs.

I dunno what to tell you. The guy is so raw he makes Anthony Davis look polished. He’s got upside but there is no way I spend a 3rd round pick on him if I don’t need a tackle. Which the Cowboys didn’t. But they were still willing to spend a high pick on Bulaga if he slipped. This is basically a matter of Bulaga being really good right now and the Cowboys willing to take BPA and those other guys you mentioned not being very good and not being ready and the Cowboys not wanting anything to do with them till the 6th or 7th.

And I’ve read nowhere that Jerry is competing for the starting job. When last I checked he’s the #2 guard and while not on the bubble is not amazing anybody.

I agree with them all as well.
I like Kindle more than Misi but thats personal preference.
I think Lee is more of a traditional MLB which the Cowgirls needed vs Bowman who is more of the elite athlete OLB where the Girls already have DeMarcus Ware. I think the fact they had Bowman graded in the first round on their board says a tremendous amount about the guy when they have absolutely no use for him.
Veldheer is more raw than Alex Boone 2 bottles deep on Rye.
Suh is better than McCoy ;) Despite what many scouts say.

I mean all players ratings are NOT exact.

You can’t say because he’s the best player on our offense that he deserves a higher rating, it just doesn’t make sense. At best he needs a couple more points in strength, and if that gives him a higher rating then fine. Gore has always been a beast in Madden.

You do understand that while Gore has put up good stats, Jackson, Jones-Drew, Johnson, Peterson have put up better stats, right? The only one that hasn’t put up stats comparable to Gore’s is MJD, but MJD would drop two points at most because of his unique skill set and still be better than Gore.

he’ll be a 92 by week 8

He’s an 84 overall and a powerful run blocker. The only things that could possibly go up would be to raise his strength (which I agree with) and his awareness. However, it makes sense for his awareness to be low as a rookie. He’s not that great in pass blocking so it’s not surprising when you look at the breakdown of the stats. 84 is more than fair for a rookie.

Unfortunately, my clout doesn’t extend that far.

In one of my seasons, I had Justin Smith coming off a 10 sack season and he dropped a point. He had a good number of tackles so I have no idea what is the explanation for why he would drop. It makes sense if a player does bad as he gets older, but a player who is still productive should not drop just because of their age.

You’ve got it all wrong.

Iupati is not in any way shape or form a prototypical OT. He’s built like a guard. OT does not require more athleticism—it requires a different skill set.

You claim Heitmann would be out of the league in a year playing LT. Same goes for Staley switching to center. It’s a completely different skill set, just like LT and RT are different skill sets.

So I’m not going to argue with you. You’re saying Staley is a better athlete so he can probably play center better, when the best offensive lineman aren’t necessary crazy athletes. You don’t judge a player on athleticism. Tony Mandarich ring a bell?

Heitmann makes less mistakes and handles more defensive players better than Joe Staley does. That makes him our best lineman.

Center controls the rest of the line if he’s good and makes everyone better. Staley would probably be out of the league in a year at Center. Completely different jobs and completely different skillsets. Heitmann is a better center than Staley is OT and by a good margin.

we knew that when we drafted him. All I’m saying is that if you’re going to compare bench press results compare them with guys of the same size.

It’s about stamina with the bench press. It takes months to be able to build up to thoses kind of numbers. Some guys don’t lift as well as others, or as much.

When whatever show that was had Trigg on it called him was awesome. “What do u think about the fight Donny?” “GSP by RNC… Trigg can’t defend the choke.” Que Trigg exploding.

Leaked in a video and then I have a buddy at EA who sent me over some things.

I don’t forsee any good things for this USC team….

What’s wrong with that? :[