2010 49ers Roster Projections: Fullbacks
So here we are, at our third roster projection throughout this offseason. Fooch gave his thoughts on the quarterback situation, in which Alex Smith and David Carr seem enamored as the one and two, while Nate Davis is the majority third. He also recently posted his projection for the running backs, or the halfbacks that will make the final roster. He decided to handoff the fullbacks post to me, and since I possess hands that Adrian Peterson can only dream of, I'll get started.
It's an odd post to approach, considering the person who I'll be listing as my "lock" is thought by many fans as to be on the way out, yet just about everyone who "covers" the team believes he will still be here. I'm talking, of course, of Moran Norris. I have to wonder at times if anyone is actually disappointed with the way Norris has played (certainly he has declined, more on that later) or if said people are just excited about Brit Miller and what he could bring. It's not necessarily an unreal thing, either, because Miller appears to bring something to the table.
Included on this list is Michael Robinson, who doesn't necessarily need to show he can be a backup fullback to make the roster, but he'll get a look either way. Nate Byham looks to be a wildcard, because he's in the mix for the backup position.
Locks
Moran Norris
Bubble
Brit Miller
Jehuu Caulcrick
Wild Card
Michael Robinson
Nate Byham
Make the jump and we'll get talking.
I've listed Caulcrick on the bubble but I want to make it clear that Miller is currently ahead of him in the race. Caulcrick seems to be the best runner of the group, having a highly productive career as a running back in college. He went undrafted, and has been on both the Jets and the Buccaneers practice squad before signing with the team. He is definitely the biggest of the backs the 49ers have, but we won't know anything really about him until the pads go on.
Norris, as I've listed him, seems to be the lock. He's the best lead-blocker of the group. He's been dependable in the past, but offers not much else as far as running goes. He's been occasionally reliable when you toss him the ball and just send him at a group of guys, but beyond that, he's here because Frank Gore likes him in front of him. Norris had a great year in 2006, but after a stint with the Lions has never looked quite the same. Still, he's the best lead blocking option the team has.
Michael Robinson will likely make the roster as the DST, as someone else called it--the designated special teamer. I am of the opinion that he's not really competing with any of these guys, but as Matt Maiocco said it, Robinson is likely a shoe-in--but definitely has work to do. As a fullback, Robinson was serviceable, but was prone to being overpowered on blocks.
Byham is a player who has the most to show in training camp. For the team to keep him on the roster as a blocking tight end, he'll likely need to fulfill a backup fullback role as well. At this point, it doesn't look like the team would keep a number 3 TE and another 2 FB, so if Byham makes it, that means Miller and Caulcrick are out.
Brit Miller is the player that everyone seems to be excited about. He certainly has a lot to offer the team. He plays hard and showcases a lot of athleticism in what is a very deceiving package. He doesn't look like much, but in practice Miller is one of the hardest workers and seems to have established rapport with the guys in the locker room. As a lead blocker, Miller is still learning the position, and will need to prove himself on special teams as well to continue being on the 53-man roster. He has a leg up on Byham and Caulcrick, and is just behind Norris as far as what he can offer over all. Miller stands as the only player who can actually challenge Norris for the starting fullback job.
The question is simply whether or not Miller can make enough strides as a blocker to beat Moran Norris for the starting job--then that would definitely ensure two of them were kept on the roster. At the same time, Miller is still going to have to make a huge effort to convince the team they even want to carry a dedicated backup fullback. Byham and Robinson will need to show at least a passable ability to ensure a roster spot, and Caulcrick will need to be an absolute bruiser once the pads go on. Maybe knock out Isaac Sopoaga once or twice in training camp. Please.
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I have no freakin idea
Norris has them in spades on experience…but he’s just not that great anymore. Miller will probably make some mental errors being he’s a converted LB, converted to TE, converted to FB…Caulcrick has the best running and receiving ability of the bunch, and is a big load…but can he block and pick up the system quick enough to supplant Norris?
I’d like it to be Caulcrick and Miller honestly…but I don’t know if it will be. Especially with all this “Frank Gore loves Moran Norris” crap…
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so why doesn't he just MARRY him!
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"Caulcrick has the best running and receiving ability of the bunch"
Let’s take into concept what a Fullback is in this day and age. Sometimes you want to have a Fullback be an H-Back where he’s as much a deep tight end as anything. Byham can do that and Miller can to a degree. They also must block and probably blocking it’s either Norris or Byham, just guessing on that to a degree. Versatility is on the side of Byham and Miller I’d say as well as youth. To me Norris has an upper hand and Miller is close behind with Byham with an insurance policy of also being a great blocking TE. Caulcrick seems to be the odd man out. Odds are that Miller and Byham get some good looks in preseason and camps and Norris has the edge with a very short leash.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jun 4, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't just throw Byham into that mix
He’s an inline blocker. How will he react to having to lead through a hole? Pass protections from the backfield? Not exactly the same thing as being a TE.
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The thing is
Norris could do nothing and have the job still. Everyone else has to WORK to get Norris gone.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
I don't think Sing is a sentimental type of coach.
He’ll play whichever FB is the best. And I just don’t think Norris is.
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by Hoopers Judge on Jun 4, 2010 6:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't agree at all!
I didn’t vote in the pole because I don’t like ANY of the choices. Even considering CB and LDE, I believe that FB is the single weakest position on the entire roster. Norris hasn’t had “it” for the last two years but, because he’s Frank’s buddy, he has remained on the roster. I hope that that ends this summer. My first choice would be to try to make a trade wtih Baltimore for McClain, although that propably can’t be done. My second choice would be Miller or Caulcrick, but I don’t think that either one of the is ready yet. Hopefully one or both of them will prove me wrong in training camp. Robinson should make the roster but as a designated ST player, not a RB or FB. If neither Miller or Caulcrick are ready, start watching the waiver wire.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jun 5, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It's not a matter of me wanting Norris.
I think that’s what you’re getting at. I don’t want Norris, I’m speaking objectively here.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
youre kind of proving my point. to me a lock is someone that’s a lock to make the team even if they have a poor camp and others behind them on the depth charts have great camps. If Norris had a poor camp and someone else had a good camp, hes not so solidified on the roster that he wouldnt get cut. whereas a guy like justin smith can have a terrible camp and hes still gonna make the final 53.
Byham showing enough to beat out Norris would be the ideal situation
I have no idea what he can do, but having him as a 3rd TE and the starting FB, with Miller or Caulcrick kept on the practice squad for depth certainly opens the door for other players on the 53 man roster.
I can see Byham making is as the 3rd TE and also the BU Fullback with Miller being the main FB
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I voted "other"
Because I think (hope) that it will either be just Miller or just Caulcrick . Byham is a TE and has an excellent chance to make the team as the 3rd TE,not a Fullback.
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I hope happens. Why roster 2 FB’s if we think Byham could even remotely do the job? Plus would Miller have PS eligibility? I think he does. If our FB got injured we’d stick Byham in for the remainder of the game then sign a FA or elevate a PS guy. Not ideal but I don’t imagine we’ll run 90% of our plays from 21 personnel anyways.
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I think
we should keep robinson and norris because even though robinson isn’t a good runner he’s one of my favourite players and he is an integral part of the special website
Gotta find some way to fit miller on the team
It will be hard for him to overtake Norris, but if he can continue to show the all-around skills he did last year, who knows? It would be cool to put him in with the first unit a few times in preseason & see what he does.
72 days to go. . .
by Mangoman on Jun 4, 2010 11:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
OK maybe not quite all-around, but definitely ST skills and his two TD’s certainly can’t be ignored.
72 days to go. . .
by Mangoman on Jun 4, 2010 11:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I really don't think Norris is a lock
I do think he has a leg up on the competition. If I had to rate the probable order of starting it would be:
Norris
Miller (but I don’t think he’s far behind)
Caulcrick (who I think would need a miracle to make the team as a FB)
Byham (if he makes the team it won’t be as the starting FB)
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The more you can do, the better. I think Norris had quite an edge over Miller last year because of experience alone but they were both learning a new offense. Miller has a year under his belt and is more familiar with the position and the playbook. I’m hoping that coaches seriously see this as open competition and pick Miller because of all the other things (age, health, receiver) he brings to the table that Norris doesn’t have.
I think it is an acknowledged open competition between Norris and Miller
First of all, Miller made the active roster by the end of the year, and played on special teams.
He went from waiver pickup to practice squad, practice squad to 53, and 53 to 45, all in one year while learning a new position.
They see something in him.
Second, Tony Richardson, an old FB that Raye always spoke very highly of, was an unrestricted free agent this offseason with the Jets, the Niners had a chance to get him, he knows Raye’s system really well, (he played for Raye at KC and NY), and the Jets were a hard running team last year. But the Niners didn’t sign him, (we don’t know if they had talks).
Third is time, 2006 was four years ago, a lifetime in the NFL.
I think this means that Norris has a chance to prove himself at the start of practice, but if he isn’t getting it done, I think they will promote Miller so he can get the reps.
If you look at Robinson’s Height/weight profile, he just doesn’t seem to be the type of fullback Raye uses. I think Raye appreciates his skill set, but i think MROB is make or break based on special teams performance, with offense only a bonus.
They're called RUNS for a reason.
A FB doesn't have to
if he’s a pass-catching threat in addition to his blocking
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