It's a good day, 49ers fans.
As you may know, Measure J has passed. If you don't know what Measure J is, well I probably can't help you. Alright, I can help you. It's the 49ers stadium measure for Santa Clara, and yesterday it cruised to an easy win in the polls. This, of course, doesn't mean an immediate stadium for the team to play in, nor does it guarantee that one will come to fruition in Santa Clara. It was simply the first major hurdle in the 49ers quest to get one built, and they leapt over it without looking back. But now they have a whole slew of other things to accomplish--from getting a site to funding.
Still, it's a day to be excited. The 49ers haven't made for much help over the last several seasons as far as excitement goes, and you can make it a productive day knowing that a new stadium is that much closer to being built, and the team can finally move on for the criminally outdated Candlestick Park. But what else should make this a good day? How about the 49ers recent OTA sessions, which showed a lot of promise.
Promise is something you should approach with caution for this team, but it does feel different this time around. It felt different last year, too, but for different reasons.. if that makes sense. Last year, there was a new coach, a new mentality, and the hope that this team could at least perform better. This year they have that same coach, that same mentality, and are miles ahead of where they were at this point a year ago. That counts for something, doesn't it?
When was the last time the 49ers could say they have something approaching continuity? Some time now. So after the jump, I'll post some notes on the teams' OTAs, compiled from the 49ers beat writers. Probably more of a "reasons for optimism" as opposed to a tell-all source of what went down.
11-85 Connection Who isn't excited about this? Davis is definitely Smith's number one target, and yesterday he showed why. Davis went over the middle of the field and hauled in three touchdown passes, and I can see it now. I see each of the 49ers' 2010 opponents and I see them running haplessly behind Davis, unable to catch up. It's a great sight to see.
11-Anyone Connection It was a good day overall from the defense, as TE Delanie Walker and WRs Michael Crabtree and Kyle Williams both caught touchdown passes. I don't care who is catching them, six points is six points.
Iupati and Davis Crack Starting Lineup Niiiiice. There is a supposed "battle" for the starting job. Obviously, Singletary claims that they only started in OTAs because they need as much practice as they can get, but the practice was obviously so they could work with their future starting teammates. They both have looked good, and Adam Snyder showed some stuff snapping the ball--the guy can play all five line positions. As I noted a couple weeks ago to Smileyman, he'd be a very valuable asset if he could play center--he has the skillset and physicality to play that position well if need be. So long Cody Wallace?
Book On Nate Davis Isn't Closed Yet A lot of people were wondering the future of Davis after some comments made by coach Singletary, but Jimmy Raye had some things to say of his own, saying that he hopes Davis would be stepping it up later in training camp and competing with David Carr for the backup job. Wait.. I thought there was always competition? Or is the pseudo-"Carr could compete with Smith; we're leaving everything open" bit forgotten now?
Ginn Can Learn To Catch A Football He can finally make that transition from "pretty fast dude that can make people miss" to "pretty fast dude that can make people miss and also catch a ball" if he listens to the right people. He's getting advice from Vernon Davis, who has spent countless hours working on his own to improve his own hands. He did a good job, and only had a few bad drops last season. If Ginn can make that same transformation and fulfill just a little bit of his potential, we have ourselves some pretty good receivers, no?
Linebacking Speed Intact This comes just from a small little note from Barrows about the teams conditioning, which he was not supposed to report on--in said note he talks about rookie LB Navorro Bowman challenging fellow LB Patrick Willis to see who could cross the finish line in drills first. This ended up making the first two people across the line Willis and Bowman, so if Bowman can bulk up a little and fill that TED linebacking spot, we can have a very fast Takeo Spikes on our hands. Sound good? I've noted that the team has some of the faster linebackers in the league, I wonder if that is by design or it just worked out that way? I don't recall Lawson or Willis being touted as fast as they are now coming out of college.
Andy Lee Isn't Upset This is another small one, but it's still an important one. The 49ers returners looked good fielding punts from Lee's foot as opposed to the JUGGS machine--a few drops here and there but nothing catastrophic. Though I suppose a drop on gameday can be awful. What am I saying? "Suppose?" I know.
Well that's it for now... 11-85, baby.
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It's not so good a day
I will be upset if the 49ers leave San Francisco, mostly because I can get from home to my seat in under half an hour now.
I would rather see games at Candlestick as it is now than have to go to freakin’ Great America to see the boys.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
Thew new stadium really will offer a whole new experience.
It sucks they won’t play in San Francisco, but a lot of teams don’t actually play in their city. Surely travel-related issues aren’t enough to lessen the fact that Candlestick is one of the most outdated stadiums in the league?
The only downside to me is that I’ll probably have to lose my season tickets, I already struggle with bills and what not—the pricing for these seats are going to be awful.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
travel
Do you live in San Francisco or somewhere on the peninsula? One option will be hopping on the train down to Santa Clara. I forget which stop it is, but when I’ve gone down to training camp, I hop on the train up here in SF, take it down there and then take a short ride on the commuter rail to Great America and the 49ers facilities.
by David Fucillo on Jun 9, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Good advice
Designated Driver included at no extra charge eh?
Let he who is without sin... get a life!
I live in San Francisco
I used to live in Palo Alto, so I’m familiar with the game commute going the other way. We found buses to be the best way.
No way to spin it… it’s just worse for me if they move that far.
Granted, this is not the biggest factor in the 49ers decision. But it’s a huge one in mine.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
It's worse you because it will make your drive a bit longer?
For one game a year, or at worst, eight days out of the year? I guess I just don’t see how it’s “huge” for you. Still, it is a logical complaint, just not one I’m sure you understand the 49ers really care to consider.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
Yup
Probably 3-4 hours a day getting there and back instead of 1. Eight to hopefully 10 games a year. Maybe 12 if you count preseason.
The reason it’s a factor for me has to do with personal reasons where taking that extra chunk of time out of Sundays is a noticeable inconvenience. But maybe huge is an exaggeration.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
I should also say
Currently, it delights me that I’m walking around on a relatively uncrowded San Bruno Ave., filled with great cheap restaurants just minutes before and after a game. I only have to spend 10-15 minutes on a cramped bus. It’s one of those great, semi-secret experiences that goes away with a cattle commute.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
It's an old, outdated stadium.
There’s no redeeming qualities about it except for its history. The seats are old and uncomfortable, the building itself is faded, the screens are woefully inadequate… the list goes on.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
Redeeming quality: LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION
Really, we’re not arguing the same points. We’re just making different ones.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
I live in Modesto...
…and it takes 4 hours round trip. If it takes you thirty minutes from the current site, there’s no way it now takes you 3-4 hours a day, sorry.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
Not to mention...
…there’s no guarantee you can really know how long it will take because there are absolutely no real details yet. It just seems like you’re overreacting a little bit, especially with the 3-4 hours line, like you want to disapprove of it for some reason.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
The way is public transportation
Don’t be sorry, you just assumed I’d drive. Are you counting garage to seat time with that 4 hours round trip?
I used to take the 10:00 bus from Palo Alto for a 1:00 game. Granted, we sat around a lot when we got there, but I’m willing to bet I wouldn’t want to leave the house in SF later than 11:00 for a 1:00 start time in Santa Clara. That’s shaving off an hour, and assuming a little faster time for the return trip.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
Now that I think about it
The return trip wasn’t faster because the initial trip was a straight shot (full bus, one destination). The return trip made all the stops because the driver doesn’t know where people want to get off.
Yeah, 3-4 hours round trip is probably low. And Palo Alto is closer than Santa Clara.
Driving the whole way could be faster, but what does it take to get in and out of the parking lot at Candlestick now? 20 minutes going in and 45 getting out? And what’s the walk from your seat to the car? Another 15? That’s 95 minutes eaten up WITHIN VIEW of the stadium.
"That sort of thing only happens to white people."
- Kirby Puckett joking about the fairy-tale nature of his friend, Cal Ripken Jr., homering in his final All-Star Game
Goodbye? I don't get it.
There’s tons of teams that don’t play in their city. The friggen Dallas Cowboys don’t play in Dallas!
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
nor does Washington, heck they play like 30 minutes away
easily, depending on traffic…Both NY teams play across the river, Pats play in foxboro, a 30 mile drive into the country. Besides, did anyone ever think that the team used to have to pack it up and TRAVEL to Candlestick essentially? Now they’ll be across the street.
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Even the proposed new stadium in LA
Isn’t in LA.
It’s in City of Industry, like 45 mins away.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 10, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Because you can't spare an extra 30 mins to get to a nicer stadium?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jun 9, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Has everyone seen the website?
I’m really sorry if this got posted yesterday – I missed the open thread on the stadium thread. But the official site for the new stadium is very, very nicely done. http://www.49ersnewstadium.com/. That said, at the time of writing it’s down! But when it was up – and presumably when they bring it back up – it’s incredibly classily done.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
Wow
Outstanding job. I can’t lie, i got chills.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by return2greatness on Jun 9, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I've got to say--that's a gorgeus looking stadium
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I wasn't blown away honestly
but I like the views it offers of the game, the players running by, roof top patios…
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lol at that picture
It looked like they used paint to add the players into that pic.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 9, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't we disagree about this year's draft hats too?
or was that Ninjames?
Either way it seems we have different aesthetic tastes
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I guess it just doesn't stand out
except the grass on the top of the suite tower.
I was looking for a design that didn’t resemble anything out there. What are some key points that set it apart?
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but compared to the Stick, yeah, it's pretty freakin awesome looking
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this

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or this

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I don't like the white...looks cheap to me.
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Definitely the black one
Brings back memories of the Crabtree/DHB fiasco.
The 2009 1st round was much more exciting than the 2010 first round, IMO.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 10, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Love the white
black is too busy. The white is nice and clean.
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Kudos on the new stadium.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
I didn't want the Niners to go to Santa Clara at first
But after thinking about it, I’m glad they have found a home. I live in the Northern Valley and the drive to Santa Clara would add an extra 30 minutes to an already 2 hour drive from where I live.
Then I started thinking about it. I really don’t attend that many Niners home games. I’ve always preferred watching Niners games at my house. So congrats to the Niners management for coming up with the Santa Clara plan and congrats to the voters who voted for Measure J.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
candlestick isnt that bad
i know its really shitty but, it makes it up with the history
by Sfhomie on Jun 9, 2010 9:22 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Nah
The Lombardi trophies are all they need to remind them of the past.
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by SportsChicken on Jun 9, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Psyched about Measure J passing....
I’m in Jersey, so it’s rare I get to see ‘em play live. If this stadium gets built, I’m taking a trip out there to watch the Niners in their new stadium.
NO PSL's!
Jed York just said no PSL’s are planned for the new stadium (per Adam Schein of Sirius NFL Radio)
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That's surprising given that's a major source of revenue for new stadiums
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yeah i heard the interview
any of you guys listen to sirius? it’s awesome ive had it for about 4 years. in the last couple weeks they’ve had anthony dixon, joe staley and tko on. Anyway Jed said no PSL’s but there will be SBL’s which is a “stadium builders licesnce” He said the details are here http://www.49ersnewstadium.com/. You can link to it from london’s comment. ( i know london you put it up first). But what he basically said was that its the opportunity for fans to own seats and will them down and so on. I think with “PSL” its a year to year thing. Can anyone clear that up?
Great Day!
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yeah I listen to sirius
had it for about 3 years now. Getting the home kit now so I can pipe it into my home system and listen while I work (and not pay extra online fee).
Really is the best thing going in football talk. Way better than anything you’ll see on TV on any channel.
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rather, "hear on any tv channel"
obviously you can’t see radio…
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don't you have a LondonNiner post to stalk?
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did you hear anthony dixon
on couple weeks ago on late hits? i have the online as well as the stiletto that i take everywhere!
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oooh the stilletto
man I wanted that thing but don’t have the cheese. Satellite radio you can take anywhere like an MP3 player?!??! Plus it’s an MP3 player? Can you pause the broadcast with it too? I want a sirius nfl radio dvr personally.
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yeah my girl got it for me a couple years back
i didnt even activate it for a year i almost made her take it back it is a lot! I had the sportster in my truck and the boom box in the house. Back when i first signed up i got free internet radio. Well the sportster which did have 45 min of playback rewind finally crapped out and i activated the stiletto. it is awesome!
Yes it is an MP3 player which you can upload music to or just record from the music staions. yes it is basically a dvr you can set it to record entire shows on a dailey basis. I listed to the joe stayley interview 4 times. i just kept rewinding it!
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i'm soooo jealous
I could record times when 49ers would be on and play them back later…oh man! I have to get one now…stupid food!
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yup and since
you use twitter you can follow the nfl radio if you dont already and youd know whenever niners were going to be on. whoops thats probably what you just meant. have you looked a tssradio.com you might be able to grab a used one or something. thats the official site for all the sirius gadgets
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i originally got sirius
for stern but am addicted to NFL radio now. Don’t know about you but movin the chains is my fav show. Tim and Pat talkin ball is the best! Back when they had bam bam on when he got the new deal and he and tim were talking about going fishing together that next day i was soo jealous
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Tim and Pat are the best football talk hosts going
I love Pat. He knows X’s and O’s as well as F.O. stuff and is a cool guy. Timmy is funny and has learned a lot since his playing days too.
That’s the only station I listen too except KidsPlace for my boys when they’re in the car. My oldest prefers NFL Radio though…
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ive often thought about calling in
seems like the only rep for the niners fans is marcus from north carolina and the guy obviously isnt a NN member because he’s always lacking in his info. But he’s still a good guy
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Turron in Pennsylvania
is a buddy of mine and James (well, on Twitter anyways) but it’s really hard to get in on MTC. Call on weekends or during late hits and you’ll get on. I got on once and rambled for 5 minutes without much host input…finally they had to go to commercial and cut me off!
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awesome
yeah i waited to get on the blitz back when it was the afternoon show for like 40 minutes (with bluetooth) and never got on havent tried since
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yeah back in 07
tim and pat had willis and stayley on (at different x’s) but i remember thinking i wish we could get those guys. they were my first glimpse into willis the man not just the ball player.
they are really good in there interviews about getting a guy to expose if he’s a knucklehead or if he “lives the game” as they say
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check that
the SBLs are basically the same thing…just a different name. York says “lots of options on PSL’s” in interview…so sounds like there will be some form of license for season ticket holders.
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Does anyone know if there is any plan to extend BART to sc?
That would be an incredible advantage to a new stadium if they do extend it.
Well....
Here’s a map of a proposed BART extension from Fremont…..though with BART, you best suspect a looooong wait: http://www.santaclarasap.com/pdfs/Regional_Context.pdf
james
your a season ticket holder already looks like on the site there going to make it easier for a guy like you to stay that way. I hope so that would be another smart move by jed to not price out the average guy….ok so your an above average guy your a true niner nut…but you know what i mean the giants jets cowboys they are pricing out the regular fans with the crazy PSL’s
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I barely, and I mean barely squeak by getting these tickets. I still haven’t fully paid off this coming season’s set. The tickets for the new stadium will be through the roof..
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
Have you considered sharing season tickets?
Like with baseball?
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by SportsChicken on Jun 9, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
We all have to make sacrifices buddy
It’s better than not having any tickets all right?
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by SportsChicken on Jun 10, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
whaaaaaaaaaaat
do they know who you are! We obviously need to work on some discounts for ALL NN members!
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Well..
Samuel Lam is smaller than me. I can maybe beat him up and take his pass?
Then again.. Barrows and Maiocco are smaller than me as well… so is Barber… and Sando.. the probably the security guards…
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
and some of the players
ok, more than some…
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well then i say
we get you some security gear and you can sneak us in. Whos gonna ? the big guy
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PSL's
I believe PSL’s are a one time thing also. It’s just more politically beneficial to change the name to a “Stadium Builder’s Licence” (SBL) so people can feel proud of helping build the place, instead of feeling screwed out of more money :). Anyways, it’s got to be paid for one way or another, and I’m glad that Santa Clara voted it in. I’m hoping to still be able to afford a seat in the nosebleed section without an SBL…
good news is
they’ve kept the seats all relatively low to sea-level (close to the field) so even the higher up seats aren’t as far as they would be in some stadia
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The 'Stick was really good with that, though, too.
Smaller stadium = high seats not so bad.
Frustrated fireworks inside my head..
kinda what i thought
but it does “sound” better
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York's interview and the city of SC's website
indicate that the SBLs are essentially PSLs
:-(
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jed was just on NFL network
he wouldnt even guarantee rich eisen “seats on the 50”. great there went the thought of lookin out for the “regular” guy lol
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question for bay area locals
i’m from back east, but i have a 9er friend from frisco who hates the stadium being in santa clara. what’s the big deal about that? i don’t get it? the giants and jets play in jersey. if we’re still called the sf 49ers who cares? the stadium is going to be the bomb.
also, i’ve never been to the stick. is it really THAT rundown that a complete renovation makeover would be a waste of time?
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Yes
the stick is really TAHT run down,and worse than that !
And even if they could renovate the old gal,it would cost as much as a new stadium and there are no roads etc to get to that area anyway (that is a main reason they are moving to Santa Clara,where there are 3 freeways and many huge city streets to get in and out of the stadium in record time,not to mention heavy rail and light rail stations nearby etc )..

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