49er Personel Strategy (in a nutshell)
BEWARE rest of the NFL, Mike Iupati is a giant scary nut!
Bigger, stronger and faster. Want to see a roster stacked with ridiculous size/speed combination, look no further SF. The 49ers have used high picks like on players with production (Mays, Davis), injury (Gore, Ray McDonald) and character (Crabtree, RJF) questions. Aside from a few need picks over the last few years they don't seem to draft anyone in any round that isn't a physical beast. Last year we started to see the tangible benefits of this philosophical approach as V.D. and Goldson had break out years and Willis put together another All-Pro campaign. Crabtree did what he could to address the Diva concerns with play that certainly surprised me and I think surprised a lot of people.
The 49ers have showed a great willingness to roll the dice on players who have all the physical gifts but may have red flag that would scare other teams away and they've done it without developing a "Bengals" culture where they blotter and team news are side by side in the local paper.
I'll even give Mike Nolan some credit on this one, he knew when to cut his losses (Antonio Bryant). For the most part though, the 49ers just aren't getting into trouble. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the team had only one arrest this off-season when Ray McDonald was arrested for a DUI, that would be pretty damn good for any organization of 55 or so 23-29 year old males, but for an NFL football team that doesn't even really seem to draft for character as a priority.. Amazing! Of course Singletary has to get a lot of credit for this, but it also seems like the 49ers have a lot of players who have stepped up as leaders and are creating a culture of success both on and off the field.
I'm really excited to see what this year’s class of monsters can do. I think Taylor Mays is going to be a starter early in the season or at least get very significant playing time, and I think he'll make a lot of people regret passing on him, just a hunch. I also think we'll see more of Navarro Bowman than anyone expects, and I think he's another guy that five years from now will look like an absolute steal.
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is going to be a good player he has the drive. Iupati seems to take it all in stride. Davis worries me a bit, but not unduly. Dixon I have high hopes for and think by the beginning of next year he will be looked on as the solid #2 at RB. Williams will be a good returner and possibly a good receiver. Byham has the possibilty to turn into a Cooley or Brent Jones type just based on underestimation of him. We have a good corps of new recruit so long as we don’t expect them to break the bank. I like what Sing is doing in “raising” these “kids”. And we have a good OLine staff and a good WR coach and Manusky has some really great ability on Defense. Overall the chances look good. We have a good crew being built up.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 17, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
As I have said (opined?) before
Rookies are fun to project as starters, and it actually happened with Michael Crabtree because our WR core was so lousy. But the interesting emerging monsters are the 2nd and 3rd year players who have (hopefully) matured physically and mentally, and refined their skill sets when we look for the new starters (or reliable regulars in nickel and dime packages) of 2010. RJF is a possible, as are Kentwan Balmer, Smith, and Taylor on the defensive side. On the offensive side, the FB position seems to be up for real competition (is Miller ready?) and RT is a black hole so we all are waiting to see how good the new improved Alex Boone really is. If Ginn is good enough to play substantial passing downs in the slot, that is another opportunity for someone other than a rookie to step up for substantial minutes.
I agree with most of that. I my hunch that Mays will start is in large part based on my opinion of the current starter (Michael Lewis). He’s a tough and likable player, but I think at this stage in his career he’s too much of a coverage and speed liability. I’d love him as a mentor and first guy off the bench, but he’s making premier safety money. Also SS isn’t the hardest position for a rookie to come in and be pretty good at, I think at the end of the day Mays will be an upgrade early in the season.
Bowman, I think has little to no chance of taking a job from TKO but I think he may get some third down snaps and I’m hoping he’s a terror on ST.
I think the Davis and Iupati will start, and I’m buying the hype on Iupati (or he wouldn’t have graced my graphic) but I’m going to temper my expectations since rookie offensive line play is a pretty mixed bag.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Jul 16, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I see Iupati finishing the season looking like a boxing contender
16 – 0 with 16 knockouts. Linebackers and NT/DEs will try to stay away from him.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Ginn at slot?
A good point was made of another poster that Ginn is not a slot kind of guy. I think Williams will fill that slot postion and Ginn will play the switch out #2 (outside) position. This year we have to consider that yet again we are rebuilding to a degree. We are molding ourselves into a multiyear combatant instead of a one year wonder.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 17, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Post Johnny,
I agree with what you said completely.
I think we are reaping the benefits of the Singletary Effect, his ability to motivate and mentor players and help them reach their potential.
Two players I’d like to see the Niners consider for this year:
Marshawn Lynch and Fred Smoot
I think Marshawn needs a change of scenery and would fit in well on the Niners, the culture can absorb him and bring out his best, and his ability would be great, especially when you consider that Frank Gore is normally out for two to three games a season.
When you factor in ages and relative wear and tear, I think Lynch is a great fit on the team, and could probably be had for David Baas, Barry Sims, Glenn Coffee or a 4th round pick.
Fred Smoot is almost three years younger than Dre Bly, and is a starting caliber NFL cornerback. If you look at his size and weight, he is likely to have two to three years left as a starting caliber CB. If Singletary is okay with bringing him on board, I’m okay with it. He is also a good candidate for the CB to FS transition down the road, ala Lott and Woodson.
Both of these guys look good to me, I think they would be great fits from a personnel perspective, addressing team needs. But I say this with the caveat that Sing needs to sign off on them coming, prior to a signing.
They're called RUNS for a reason.
Disagree on Lynch but Smoot would be sweet.
Dixon is our Lynch and for a much smaller buy in point. Marshawn to me brings about visions of Adam Jones and such. They think their abilities make them so they are impervious.
But Smoot would be a great pickup, I’m sure a contract could be made with him for a 1 or 2 year contract.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 17, 2010 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Lynch, YES!!!
I’ve been mulling over the possibility of Lynch coming to the 49ers. IMO, he would be a near perfect fit. He would give us a backup to Gore that would be nearly seamless. Neither Coffee, who is way overrated, nor Dixon can provide adequate backup at this vitally important position. I know many hear like Coffee and I have no idea why other than that he is a 49er and folks tend to be loyal and see the positive in him. He was not that good in college and is not particularly fast or strong or elusive. Lynch is a horse and is very talented.
Like VD he needs some Singletary singular attention and he will be OK. Buffalo is the armpit of the NFL and it isn’t surprising he wants out of there. The way he’s gone about has not been intelligent, but he is not a thug. He would give Gore enough of a break without losing production so that both could be fresh all year, including the playoffs. Running backs routinely get hurt and we need a strong backup. Almost a co-back situation so that the back-up is always prepared to take over. Lynch is that guy and he can be had fairly cheaply.
Lynch
Possible trades to acquire Lynch:
WR Jones—Buffalo needs wide receivers and Jones does not fit here.
Or Buffalo’s choice of Coffee or Dixon and a late round draft pick.
Give them Jones and Coffee
and get a pick from them and Lynch. Say a 5th rounder and Lynch for the two players? Then pick up Smoot since he’s waiting around anyway. And then get rid of Paymah and James. Smoot on a 2 yr deal and then get a young CB in the first or second of next years draft. We’ll be pretty nicely set up for the draft as wel. We’ll have two 4’s and two 5’s at least (I’m thinking we might get a 5th rounder as compensatory, if not that then we’ll get a 6th and that would give us 2 in each round of 4-7) Just thinking out loud here.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 17, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
My God, CBay, as I was reading Petillius' post, I had EXACTLY the same thought....
Send Coffee and Jones to Buffalo for Lynch and a draft pick… you know what they say about great minds…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
LOL or when two old farts get together eh?
Yeah I still kinda don’t want Lynch he worries me a bit but if we were to go that way we could get a a 5th and Lynch probably (I mean Lynch wants the heck out of there big time doesn’t he?) Heck keep him for a year or two and then either trade him (or Gore in the way outside that Lynch shines big time and Gore’s skills are declining) and build Dixon up and get a COP back in there. Hmm interesting. LOL I think I’m changing my own mind about it now.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 18, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
With our age, we are supposed to gain wisdom, are we not?
Yeah, Lynch worries me a bit, as well, but I have a lot of faith (and it’s ever increasing) in Sing’s ability to reach many of these troubled young men…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
You're Bat***t crazy if you wanna give up Dixon for Lynch
Dixon is going to DAMN good.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh who said Dixon?
Give the Brandoff and Caffe latte
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 20, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think much of Coach Singletary from an Xs and Os perspective...
…but he is absolutely the best “father figure” head coach of which I’m aware, the coach who’s able to take some of these troubled young men and enlighten them on their current lot in life, the crossroads at which they now find themselves, and the steps necessary to take the fork in the road that we all hope these troubled souls take…
We also have a terrific locker room dynamic… our leaders are the positive, work and success oriented players on the roster who serve as wonderful role models and mentors for the others. As Coach said not too long ago, we’re on the verge of something special around here…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
I would argue that this is exactly the situation that you want!
To equate the situation to the executive management of a business …
It is the job of the VPs (i.e., coordinators) to be the experts and leaders in their individual functions (i.e., the leaders of the Xs and Os activities); they are assisted in executing the plan by the middle managers (i.e., position coaches).
It is the job of the CEO (i.e., head coach) to be the direction setter and inspirational leader.
Bill Walsh was a very unusual guy in that he could do both … but he still had a lot of help on both sides of the ball. Belichick and Reid are other such examples. The critical key is for that individual to know without question when he needs to be playing which role.
Examples of current or former head coaches who failed because they continually fell back into the coordinators role when they should have acted as the head coach include Lovie Smith, Mike Martz, and Jim Mora Jr.
I believe that we (finally) have the right approach — both a strong head coach as the CEO AND strong coordinators as the chief Xs & Os guys. I’ll grant you that I would much prefer a more dynamic OC but believe that continuity is far more important to the offensive players at this point in their development.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Jul 16, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Sing is a lot like a great sgt or even my Dad.
When he says jump.. they say, “Is this high enough”. There is, from what I have read, a lot of respect from all the coaches and players, for coach Sing. Players will play for someone like that.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Just to be clear, my post was in NO WAY an indictment of Sing...
to the contrary, I love what he brings to the table. Walsh was an Xs and Os guy, Sing isn’t. An old adage says “there’s more than one way to skin a cat”… In this day and age, with many more young athletes having “issues”, I think a guy like Sing is probably more necessary than a guy like Walsh (but I’d love to have a Walsh as “O” coordinator…)
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Funny you should mention that, Singletary reminds me specifically of the best GySgt. I had in the Marines.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Jul 17, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Good leaders:
Know their strengths and know their weak areas, and act accordingly.
Mays has quickness and The Geez d'ya see that factor
Reminds me of #22 Hicks back in the day
RED AND GOLD ALWAYS BOLD>
Johnny Boy!
Good assessment J! I am looking forward to Mays getting after it!
I love Gore but he's gonna need help/replacement sooner rather than later
First time posting.
So, if Lynch could be had for cheap, that’s an idea, but I don’t think we’d get him for a 5th and (a cup of) Coffee. That said, if Iupati and Davis work out the way they should, it won’t matter as much who’s running the ball, we’ll still pick up yards.
I want the Jets to keep pissing off Revis Island; add that guy to our defense, we’re talking top 3, and just being able to smother people come the post-season.
Lynch
He’s not exactly that young either dude.
He’s already 24 (only 2-3 years younger than Gore) and not much more talented.
I’d rather draft a RB when the time is right.
Gore is signed through 2011, I believe…and he’ll likely receive a 2-3 year deal after that.
Which means a rookie RB can be had in like 2012 or 2013
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jul 19, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup
this is what I would like to do as well. Give a 3 year extension to Gore in 2011 (assuming he’s still performing well), and draft someone in 2012 or 2013. This is assuming that Anthony Dixon or Glen Coffee isn’t being worked into more of the load by then.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
No way dude
Revis is looking for HUGE money. That money would come from VD, Franklin and Smith. I’d rather have the 3 of them and Ras-I Dowling than Revis.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
TRAINING CAMP AND FOOTBALL SEASON FOLLOWED BY HAWAII 5.......0
LET’S GO, IT FEELS LIKE TIME IS STANDING STILL, AM i ALONE ON THIS FEELING?
CAN’T WAIT FOR………..TC………..FS…………….
AND HAWAII 5..0…………BOOK-IT-DANO
You may have a serious medical condition
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
wasn't actually serious about Revis
but it would be nice to get someone significantly above average in there, and while Dowling will probably be a nice player, corners are a lot better year 2 than they are year 1, and the position needs an upgrade sooner than that.
And, we could save a lot of money by ditching Nate Clements if we found someone else worth paying. I can’t believe we temporarily made him the highest paid CB in the NFL.
People seem high on Dixon; I really hope he impresses, cause Coffee does not.
Is it football season yet?
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
Clements' contract isn't nearly as ludicrous as Michael Lewis' contract
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
At least not yet
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions
It's more money
but Clements has at least shown some value on the investment.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
So on an accounting basis
you’re saying that Clements has better ROI eh? Speaking of monies, wonder what Mays will come in at. Would be nice if we can get him at a good price for a bit of a long contract to have good ROI there. If he can step it up, which I feel he can (yes I admit it I didn’t like him pre-draft) that could be one heck of a back field with him, Goldson, Spencer, Clements and Brown.Though I would still like to see us look at picking up Smoot and getting rid of Paymah and James.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jul 21, 2010 3:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Lewis has played better than Clemments, IMO
He’s fantastic at what he does.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you still wet from the other day?
I hear pampers are pretty good for incontence issues . . .
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I'd like to know why you don't think Lewis has given the 49ers a good return on their investment though
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Jul 23, 2010 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Cost compared to his play
In 2007 we signed him to a 6 year deal worth $30 million. The deal included $10 million guaranteed.
2007 was his best year by far with us. He ranked #1 amongst DBs in tackles with 104. He had 1.5 sacks, 7 PD and 2 INTs
2008 his play declined. He was still top 10 but he was ranked 6th in the league in tackles with 96, 2 sacks, 0 PD, and 0 INts.
2009 his play declined even more. He was ranked 26th in the league in tackles with 82, 1 sack, 3 PD and 1 INT
Basically we paid him top money for one excellent season, one above average season and one lousy season.
His play has declined each year, including a dramatic decline in 2009 over 2008. I expect a further decline in 2010, especially with Taylor Mays pushing for playing time.
I would not be surprised to see us cutting Lewis after this season.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
If he'd been signed to a $15 or 20 million deal I wouldn't be nearly as
opposed to him. That’d be average pay for average play. Instead he’s getting top pay for average play.
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