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Best in the Biz: The Inside Linebackers

Continuing our presentation of the NFL Network's "Best in the Biz" series. Solomon Wilcots presents his view of the best linebackers in the business. Like the other series I'll post his list, then we'll look at stats and my view of the best.

5. Lofa Tatupu

4. DeMeco Ryans

3. Jon Beason

2. Patrick Willis

1. Ray Lewis

Star-divide

Here are each of these player's with their 2009 stats

 

2009 Stats:

Ray Lewis--134 tackles, 3 sacks, 7 PD, 0 INTs, 2 FF

Patrick Willis--152 tackles, 4 sacks, 8 PD, 3 INTs, 3 FF

Jon Beason--141 tackles, 3 sacks, 7 PD, 3 INTs, 1 FF

Demeco Ryans--123 tackles, 1 sack, 2 PD, 1 FF

Lofa Tatupu--32 tackles, 1 sack, 2 PD, (he was hurt most of the season) His last full season was 2007 and he had 109 tackles, 1 sack, 9 PD, 4 INTs, and 3 FF that season

 

I have real issues with this list. I have problems putting Ray Lewis #1 overall when two linebackers had better seasons last year. The last time Ray Lewis led the league in tackles was back in 2001, almost 10 years ago. I realize that being a middle linebacker is more than pure tackles but I don't see how this listing is anything more than a lifetime achievement award. 

I also have real problems with listing a linebacker who hasn't been healthy the past two seasons. Yeah he's a terror on the field when he's playing but he has a tough time staying on the field and you can't be the best in the business if you're not in the business.

 

Here's my list:

1. Patrick Willis. Three seasons, three Pro-Bowls. Hard to beat that.

2. Jon Beason. Another young star who's been incredibly consistent.

3. Ray Lewis. He had a bit of a resurgence last year and is still a force to be reckoned with. His skill and experience are worth a great deal. 

4. Barret Ruud. This choice will probably surprise a bunch of people. Ruud has always been a strong inside linebacker but the last two years he's simply exploded. 137 tackles in 2008, 142 in 2009.

5. London Fletcher. Dude is old but he's still playing at a high level and is actually still getting better. 142 tackles last year, 133 the year before.

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smileyman's
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I voted smileyman without even seeing the list

But I’m upset guys like DJ Williams, Curtis Lofton and yes even Kirk Morrison don’t get more love. In all honesty though, it’s Patrick Willis #1, Jon Beason #2, and the dogs can fight over the scraps for the remaining posiitons. There are a lot of good to borderline great ILBs in the league right now, and it’s a thing of beauty.

by Andrew Davidson on Jul 20, 2010 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Pretty much

Lewis is somewhere around 3 or 4 now.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morrison is a fantasy stud but not a great MLB. He did get a lot of tackles but he also missed a lot of tackles. There’s a reason they drafted a MLB top 10…haha

by 49er4life on Jul 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its probably a little too early to put Lofton in the top 5, but he’s one of my favorite players in the league and if he has another solid season he should definitely be considered up there. Everyone forgets about Urlacher too. 2008 wasnt one of his greatest season and he was injured in 2009 but hes still a great MLB.

1. Willis
2. Lewis
3. Beason
4. Urlacher
5. Ruud
6. Fletcher
7. Ryans
8. Williams
9. Lofton
10. Posluzny

by 49er4life on Jul 20, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

honourable mention to Dansby, Tatupu, Laurinaitis, Vilma, Harris

by 49er4life on Jul 20, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

good call on Laurinaitis.

you obviously did your homework. He will be a stud.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Urlacher is overrated

Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority

by smileyman on Jul 20, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

He hasn’t been as productive as of late but he is a really good player still, despite injuries.

by ericalancanty on Jul 20, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really good is not the same as one of the best

which people still seem to think he is.

Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority

by smileyman on Jul 20, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He makes big plays when big plays are needed. In 2008 team specifically tried to run away from him which is when we saw a spike in Briggs numbers. Urlacher got hurt last year and teams ran away from Briggs.

by 49er4life on Jul 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nick Barnett

at Green Bay is pretty solid. consistent.

by t p on Jul 20, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was enjoying

A nice hot Mountain Mike’s pizza and some cold beer while I anxiously awaited this list on NFL Network. All was going great until I barfed my pizza and beer up into my lap when Solly announced Bam Bam as #2. What a joke. Is he related to Ray Lewis? What a clown.

by mr. instigator on Jul 20, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Pizza and beer ...

… mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ….

LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.

by LondonNiner on Jul 20, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ray Lewis should be #2

He is so much more to the Ravens Linebacking core then just free tackles and is so much better then his stats indicate.

by manraj7 on Jul 20, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He's not who he used to be

He’s no longer making the amazing plays that he used to make.

Beason is definitely better.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2009/12/20/insider-willis-best-linebacker-in-nfl

The following quotes are from NFL scouts, coaches and front-office personnel, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

• “There was a play that Patrick Willis made against Tennessee in the fourth quarter in Week Nine. (Vince) Young is in the shotgun and they run a fake dive on an option (play), and Young goes left (in an attempt) to scramble for the first down on 3rd-and-5. Willis steps inside — as he has to do — they can hand off the dive (if he doesn’t). He sees the fake, steps — never crossing over or stepping toward line and shuffles with Young and goes to make the far-shoulder, head-across-the-body tackle. It almost looked like it was a tackling drill. Willis did it so perfectly at game speed — that’s what it usually looks like at half-speed. He is such a technically sound, great football player. For 99 out of 100 other linebackers, that is a first down. This was a three-yard gain. You cannot teach or draw it up any better than he can do it. If there is a better linebacker in football right now, I have not seen him.”

by mr. instigator on Jul 20, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Citing Pro Bowls isn’t what I’d do since the Pro Bowl is a bit of a joke (and Ray does hold the record for most Pro Bowl selections by a ILB/MLB). The All Pro carries a bit more weight. They both were 1st team All-Pro last season (again, Ray holds the record for All Pro ILBs). Willis is on the rise while Lewis is in the twilight of his career, so I’d have them 1 and 2 respectively. However, I could understand why some may put Ray there because he’s still turning in good years at his age.

Beason’s 3rd. Fletched 4th for the reasons you pointed out. I’d put DeMeco Ryans 5th because he has been nothing short of consistent since he came into the league.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jul 20, 2010 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow

That is exactly how I would make my list. I agree that I could see someone putting Lewis first because he is a great leader and diagnoses plays well because of his experience. I would say that Ruud is good, but tackle numbers can be inflated, and Ruud has had to play clean up for that defense. While Ruud may become better than Ryans, I think Ryans has the edge on him.

I think it is pretty sad how unnoticed Fletcher is in the NFL.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Jul 20, 2010 1:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Okay "Best in the Biz

I have to agree (gulp) with Soloman on this one. He is the best MLB and we have to go off body of work. His defense won that championship for them and Willis jersey number is 52. Willis WILL be the gold standard when it is all said and done but for right now I cannot give the title to Willis right now. Ray Lewis knows how to run that defense. I would love to see him and Willis on the same team just for one season lol.

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by chriscream on Jul 20, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

No, just no.

It was stated when these segments began that they were not lifetime achievement awards.

Right now, Patrick Willis is the best linebacker in the NFL, and it’s not really close.
Ray WAS great when his team won the SB, but he’s not on PW’s level now.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of a no brainer that Willis is #1.

Not only can he fill a stat sheet, he’s a physical specimen. I’d love to see Ray Lewis try to rundown a WR from behind.

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by Hoopers Judge on Jul 20, 2010 12:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Ray Lewis gets the #1 nod (from the guys) because of his consistency and of how good that defense is. He’s able to put up those numbers with a good defense around him, as opposed to Patrick Willis who really had nothing around him so he got all the stats

Just my idea

Dashon, Mays, and Bamm Bamm will get the record for most decapitations in one season

by MichaelClutchtree on Jul 20, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions  

It works both ways

I can say that Lewis has remained successful because of that great DL in front of him.
Patrick Willis has always been awesome, even before Aubrayo Franklin and Justin Smith.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Patrick Willis has always been awesome, even before God and Jesus. Fixed, even though I may get struck down by lightning for this comment.

by Andrew Davidson on Jul 21, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You still there?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wilcott...

must be related to Lewis or have ties to the Ravens,since it is obvious to everyone else that Willis is the best ILBer in the NFL. Lewis is still probably #2 but he is on the decline as Willis is still on the rise. When Willis is at his peak in a couple more years,he will be so much better than Lewis at his peak that even Wilcott will be embarrassed to lie about it.

by TIM___ on Jul 20, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I take great issue with Solomon Wilcott

He must not watch that much football because he list is ridiculous

1. Pat Willis
2. Jon Beason
3. Ray Lewis

I love Ray Lewis to death, sure fire hall of famer but this list should not be a career award it should who is the best right now in the league and that is Pat Willis followed Jon Beason. Pat is an all around player, he can play in run and pass defense and he is a sure tackler with amazing speed.

And remember this comes after the NFL network did a list of the top 5 TE’s and had VD at tied for 5th with Jermichael Finley, COME THE HELL ON. HOW IS VERNON DAVIS TIED FOR 5TH WITH JERMICHAEL FINLEY. HE IS IN THE TOP THREE, he has the best speed of any TE in the league and is the best blocker at the position and he is tied for 5th. I’m sorry a bit off topic but i hope i got my point across that these list are utter BS; anyone who knows real football will tell you that right now there is no better linebacker than Patrick Willis and that is not me being a homer that is fact and the stats back that up; he excelled in both the 43 and 34 and whatever the hell Mike Nolan was running when he was here

by Lok on Jul 20, 2010 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

OMG

I lost my lunch for that one FOR SURE. Not as bad as the P. Willy snub, but I thought VD was a “click-clack” LOCK for top 2-3 if not #1 outright. Dude’s a BEEEST of a blocker, fastest TE in the league and tied the NFL RECORD for TDs by a TE. He’s not perfect, but damn near it.

by mr. instigator on Jul 20, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

To me Patrick Willis is hands down the top Linebacker in the league. I swear, when people make these lists they do it inaccurately. They talk about who is the best in the league. but they always base it on past experience also.

by Cameron Laine on Jul 20, 2010 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not that insulting to say that

P52 is behind Ray (the 1st ballot HOFer who is still a 1st team All Pro ILB) who is still putting up great seasons in his mid 30s. That’s just respecting Ray. Are they showing Ray too much respect? Yeah, cause P52 is putting up some beastly seasons…but it’s not as if they’re saying…..(looking for an overrated ILB) Lofa Tatupu is better than P52.

In ten years, P52 will get that respect as the grizzled vet who has had a great career….likely the greatest of any ILB to ever play the game at the pace he’s going. It’s how the NFL has always been.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jul 20, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

At his age

Ray Lewis is good, but he needs to find a coaching staff to take him. All the lists remember what he has done, and none can project what he can do in the future, just he should be able to do, the older you get, that one hit that ends it all gets closer. Don’t get me wrong, I like Ray, but it’s time to hang up the cleats.

R.L.

by Equus569 on Jul 20, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

"time to hang up the cleats"?

Find a coaching staff to take him? What are you basing these things on?

by ZeroOneInfinity on Jul 20, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even though my lovely demeco is not on there....I give you the award.

Lofa last played in 2007 (as you mentioned) automatically makes him ineligible.
Patrick willis……beast.

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by Schlauton on Jul 20, 2010 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Demeco is definitely in the top 5 for me though

Very consistent.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Golden age of LBs?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Jul 21, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think even more than that

it’s a proliferation of 3-4 defenses.

Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority

by smileyman on Jul 22, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so sick of NFLN ESPN ect

Having former players do most of the analysis may be better for ratings, but it sucks for ANALYSIS!! These guys are terrible. If I hear Davis, Wilcox, or Dukes make another misinformed projection I’m going to stop watching football news all together.

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Jul 20, 2010 5:09 PM PDT reply actions  

East Coast bias will always be with us .You have to be twice as good to be noticed on the West Coast,(but Willis is twice as good and VD certainly is in the top 2).

by TIM___ on Jul 21, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

The dominance that is Patrick Willis

Aside from the fact that the Niners are my team, I think we can objectively agree that Willis is THE best in the league at his position.

The main difference between him and Ray Lewis is that OUR #52 murders people on the field, whereas Ray Lewis murders people outside of Atlanta nightclubs. That said, he does probably deserve the career achievement award for on-field activities, though he’s no longer THE best…

After Willis, it’s a reasonably close argument for second, with Beason, Ryans, and a few others all having pretty plausible cases. I think London Fletcher deserves the opposite of whatever Ray-Ray gets; the “most talented/consistently overlooked over more than a decade of amazing production” award, but he’s not top 3.

Other than that, I want us to upgrade the corner position…it’s the only portion of our defense that doesn’t give me visions of a deep post-season run.

"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will

by lottwasgangsta on Jul 20, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Wilcotts

I think Wilcotts is considering more than just stats. Ray Lewis is the absolute, on-field leader of a really good defense (even if they slipped a little last season).

"(I)f you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinsky

by dianemarie on Jul 21, 2010 5:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Ray Lewis vs. Patrick Willis

I haven’t watched enough of Beason or Ryans to make a judgment on anything but their stats, but I watched at least 4 ravens games last year and all the 49er games. My first instinct is to say that at this point in their careers it’s not even close, Patrick Willis is the best MLB in the league. His speed allows him to make plays that other LBs just can’t and he hits like a truck. But I think you can make a case for Ray, and that you can even make a case for him as long as he’s been in the league and as well as Willis is playing, is a testimony to how great a player he is. Bottom line, you’re never going to fool Ray Lewis and he makes an offense/QB look stupid at least a few times a game. He’s the closest thing to a defensive equivalent to Peyton Manning the way he moves his guys around pre-snap and his ability meet the RB in the backfield in goal line situations or when the game is on the line is supernatural. He’s also the mental, physical and spiritual (believe it or not) leader of that team more so than any other player in the league, yes including Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Ray Lewis has demanded excellence from team-mates with a do as I do mentality for over a decade, he reminds me of (Sergeant) Ronnie Lott in that way because Lott was also an in your face leader who didn’t allow other players on his team not to “sell out” as he put it. I think Willis is the better linebacker right now of the two, but personally, as long as Ray Lewis can still strap on his gear put the wood on someone, I’ll tune into pretty much any Ravens game (as long as the 49ers aren’t playing) especially their home games. Because in addition to everything else, Ray Lewis can also work his home crowd into a frenzy like no football player I’ve ever seen, and in that respect he reminds me of a great athlete from another sport – Terry Gene Bollea.

I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.

by Johnnysixnut on Jul 21, 2010 9:20 AM PDT reply actions  

#1 and #2 both coached by Singletary

That’s a nice track record. Even though Singletary only had Ray for one year or so.

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by Amigo on Jul 21, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very

solid argument for Ray Ray.

by mr. instigator on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who is the Ravens "QB" on defense?

I don’t want to knock Pat, but Sing transferred that duty from Pat to Dashon last season. I don’t think that necessarily means that Pat Willis is somehow less of a leader, but maybe that’s one area where Ray still surpasses him, if only because of Ray’s time in the league.

Then again, maybe somebody else does those duties for the Ravens. Still, I would put Pat as the number one linebacker in the league. Ultimately though, who gives a rat’s ass about these lists?

"Son, I'm going to break you like a wild horse." - Mike Singletary

by dutra on Jul 21, 2010 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

putting the green dot on Dashon

doesn’t make him the Defense’s QB. It makes more sense to have a safety wearing the green dot, because that player has a better view of the defense’s alignment compared to the offense. Bamm-Bamm is still the team’s QB on D, don’t fool yourself.

by Andrew Davidson on Jul 21, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

voted smiley over solly but

still think i’d go
1. Lewis
2. Willis
3. Beason
Simply for the fact what lewis does for that defense (QBing the defense). And the fact P Dub hasn’t tasted post season yet. However by the end of this year(after some postseason success) and when doing these FUN polls next year our own P Dub will be the unquestioned best defender in the game!

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by DreZ on Jul 21, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Ryans should still be on the your list...

Cept for that I love the new list.

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by maveric_87 on Jul 22, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

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