Most Intriguing Camp Battle?
When Fooch comes back from his fancy-pants lawyer stuff, he'll be looking at each training camp battle (he said they were his favorite posts to do), but in the meantime I'm just going to get some discussion about what you might find to be the most intriguing battle going into camp.
Do you find the battle for kick returner and punt returner the most interesting? Do you wonder who will be starting at kick returner between Ted Ginn Jr and Kyle Williams? Is Brandon Jones in that mix? LeRoy Vann? How about the punt returner game, where the primary battle seems to be between Williams and Vann? That seems to be Vann's only hope for making the team - can he do it?
Or is the battle at right tackle doing it for you? This one seems like it "could" be a legitimate battle between Adam Snyder and Anthony Davis, depending on how raw the rookie truly is. Most of us believe that Davis will win it, but who knows? I'm not including the battle at left guard because the battle at right tackle is a stretch enough as it is. Make the jump for more.
Do you lay awake at night, tossing and turning, wondering just who will be the backup running back behind Frank Gore? Will it be Glen "Morning" Coffee, or will Anthony Dixon take the spot from him? The team reported really likes what both players can do, and hey - it just might mean a roster spot.
Are you wondering what's going on between Curtis Taylor and Reggie Smith? Alex Boone and Barry Sims got you in a tizzy? Or is it the wide receivers who are really making you think? Brandon Jones, Jason Hill, Dominique Zeigler, Kyle Williams - between those four only two, possibly even just one of them will make the roster. I suppose three is a distinct possibility but definitely no more than that.
Well none of those do it for me. The most intriguing battle, to boring ol' Ninjames is the fullback battle. Moran Norris is the favorite by just about every beat writer and analyst, while the majority of the fanbase seems to think it will be Brit Miller. A small percentage is sitting there, arms crossed, frothing at the mouth are the group of people who are saying "Just wait until the pads go on", with Jehuu Caulcrick jerseys on.
Norris, again, seems to be the favorite - based on the fact that he's shown he can run block, and that's what the 49ers primary focus is for their fullback. I, too, would love to see what the veritable man-beast Caulcrick can do but I'm not going to hold my breathe and get hopes up, thinking he could make the team. However, I'm thinking more and more that both Miller and Norris will make the roster. Think about that one a little bit.
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Tough choices
It came down to Vann Bandwagon and JHIOF. I also will be looking at kissing up, but I just can’t do it right now, sorry man! But with really decent talent at WR, IMHO it’s got to be the competition I’m looking forward to watching. Can’t wait to see what Williams can do. Hill is playing for a new contract somewhere and he likely will have a career year. I’d really like to know if we’ll be dumb enough to continue to overpay Jones if he doesn’t improve several hundred (more like thousand) percent over last year. And yeah I know he had injuries, but still. Ginn will be good for a few gamebreaking plays. Seems like it will be a few more than what we had last year. Crabs will continue establish his place in beastdom. And Morgan hopefully will prove he’s a legit #2. WR.
The KR/PR follows right behind because all of a sudden we have all these legit competitors. Should be fun to see what combination we get, hopefully between Ginn, Williams, Morgan and Vann.
26 days to go. . .
I voted WR battle
It’s always interesting to see how the 49ers find a way to keep J. Hill off the field. IMO, he should be our slot guy. And last year(minus Ginn) I thought he should have been our #2. There seems to be some resentment for Hill among the 49er staff, maybe for not being “Fsyical” enough.
Why didn’t the Niners at least try J. Hill as an option at Punt Returner? We tried just about everyone. The Brandon Jones saga was horrific, why the guy was granted the PR position to begin with is mind-boggling.
Now, when Hill gets in a game, it’s almost as if he has to draw all the attention to himself, just so maybe someone would notice he’s producing out there (ex: vs Titans).
This is the last year remaining on his contract, would be very surprised if he re-signs.
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 5. John Estes C 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Stephfon Green RB 7. Julian Posey CB
I'm tempted by the PR battle
But in keeping with Sing’s focus on winning in the trenches, I went with OLine. I’ll admit that whenever I saw a highlight of some other teams PR taking one to the house, I’d wonder aloud “why can’t we do that?”. But when it really comes down to it, all I really want out of a PR is 2 things: 1) don’t fumble; 2) don’t fair catch inside the 10. Maybe I’ve been conditioned by recent mediocrity to have low expectations, but it is what it is.
The OLine is a compeltely different story. There is no other battle we can point to and say: “if these guys turn out to be pretty good, we’re looking at several years of .500+ football”. I get all hot and bothered just thinking about that.
DEE FENSE
nothing intrigues me more than the DB battle. I feel like this is a weak spot on the team, and if it improves, will make our defense elite. It’s also got a little drama to it. Shawntae worked out in PA…Clements worked out in AZ…the rookies worked hard (and got props) in mini camp…and will james worked out um…uh…
Something else, not mentioned above, RJF getting some playing time at the nose. I really like the guy- he seems like such a great fit in the locker room. If he steps in and makes some noise, the system is truly working.
I want teams to fear this defense. More than than they already do. I want QB’s to cherish every precious mili-second of time they get to see anything but red. Nobody comes in confident, and nobody leaves confident. They’ll all believe.
Need for Speed
I voted WR. An offensive need last year was speed, outside & up the field. Acquiring Ginn was consistent with Niners drafting Dixon & Williams instead of a CJ type RB.
I get all tingly thinking of the speed WR catching a bomb, busting a screen, end-around and all that highlight stuff. Now that Florida Danny has burst my bubble about the OL/team impact, gotta go with the adrenalin rush of watching our speed WR kick it into high gear. That position will be won by training camp heroics. Can hardly wait.
Fullback battle
I think that’s the only spot where there’s true competion for the starting spot. I’ll be surprised if Baas and Snyder are starting instead of Iupati and Davis. We know who our starting WRs will be, as well as starting CBs.
Backup running back is backup running back.
The only other starting position that might be up for grabs is that of safety opposite Goldson.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
BTW, speaking of Kory Sheets
there’s as much a battle over him with Miami fans as there was with 49er fans.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Without Question
The O Line! Two of our first draft picks (cj spiller discussion was awesome) were to address the need for the running game. We got Boone (he was a chatroom draft discussion) in shape ready to make an impact. The previously starters are playing at a higher level. I am definitely going to watch the preseason, twitter, and NFL for all updates. The key to us getting into the playoffs will start with them and follow through with Alex Smith.
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The imaginary battle at LDE
I say imaginary because it sounds like Sopoaga is entrenched as the starter, yet he is arguably the worst starter on the team. So I would like to see someone step up and take the spot from him. With a healthy Balmer who seems in shape and focused, RJF who has been working hard at NT, or McDonald in his third year, I would hope that someone can at least challenge Sopoaga for the spot and make it a camp battle.
But since that probably won’t happen, maybe I will work on installing blinders in RB’s helmets so they can do their best Zoolander impression and not see the giant hole where Sopoaga used to be.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Jul 20, 2010 11:07 AM PDT reply actions
I went with the LOLine battle
Not because the battle will be most entertaining or anything, but because the key to the offense begins with an effective OLine. Less shotgun, more blocking please (no, that doesn’t mean I don’t want to see the Alex Smith formation at all, it just means I’d like to see the team run a more balanced attack formation wise).
I’m intrigued by the DB battle, should be interesting to see what scrubs make the team after Nate Clements, Shawntae Spencer and T-Unit.
The returnman battle should be fun to follow too, but I’m confident the right guy will be chosen by the end of preseason. I’m not so confident about the LOLine.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 20, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions
AD, by "T-Unit", are you referring to Taell Brown, Taylor Mays, Curtis Taylor, or Tremaine Brock?
My guess is it’s Tarell Brown because he’s a CB like the other two you mentioned, but you stated “DB battle”, so it could easily be safety Taylor Mays (the other two are less likely, but still possibilities).
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Brown
just wanted to refer to him as T-Unit for funzies.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 20, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Between the Vannwagon and the Backup RB's
I actually voted on the RB’s because I am exited for Dixon. Don’t know exactly what it is, but I have a good feeling about him as a predecessor to Frank the Tank. The loline is intriguing though with Davis as raw as he is.
The Coffee is garbage option
I can’t wait for Dixon to just blow Coffee away. Coffee wouldn’t even have been drafted this season.
Gimme 1 round!
I really can't believe we wasted a 3rd rounder on him
That is like Al Davis football. I’d trade him for a nice cardigan and a box of 10mm ammo.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Coffee will beat Dixon.
Calling it now.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
No skills
Very little upside. Coffee will be a career 3rd down back.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
No skills?
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
No skills running the rock
catching is a different story. He actually could be a decent receiving threat out of the backfield and is a solid blocker.
Sorry didn’t make that distinction, thought it would come through on the fact that I listed him as a career 3rd down back.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
We'll have to agree to disagree.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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How is that Al Davis football?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Jul 20, 2010 1:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Drafting guys way higher than they should go?
How is it not? DHB and Mike Mitchell. Both guys that were drafted several rounds before they were projected to go. There was talk of Mitchell maybe even getting to UDFA status. Coffee would have been a UDFA in this years much deeper draft but he was nowhere near a 3rd rounder last year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Al Davis drafts on great measurables and speed
seems like Coffee would not be on his radar so not really Al Davis football. And everyone overdrafts players. I mean 49ers took Anthony Davis in the first round and Coffee in the third round. So you could just say it’s the 49ers’ way of overdrafting.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Jul 20, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I guess you’ve got me there
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
10mm...I always wondered about those...
What are the merits of a 10mm over a 9mm or a .41?
Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?
"What are the merits of a 10mm over a 9mm?"
1 extra mm
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Its a .41 Magnum basically
Some of the more powerful loadouts like Double-Tap carry a HELL of a punch. Enough that even if somebody is wearing soft armor it will still crush their sternum.
Hence why I have it. If I’m going to rob somebody its going to be in my body armor. (Which isn’t that hard to get). If somebody comes in thinking they are unstoppable they are sadly mistaken.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
sadly for them and the cleanup crew
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
FBI originally had it
but it had too much kick for some of the females and desk jockey males so the FBI went to the 40 S&W which is basically the same girth but not as long and thus not as much ass behind it.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Body armor is really only designed for smallish rounds
At least most of it anyway.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Will definitely stop a 9 mil
And can stop larger. But can easily be penetrated by specialty rounds. 10mm might go through but either way it will get the job done.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jul 20, 2010 11:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
O-Line depth.
I’m certain that the two rookies are starters Week 1, so that leaves a few guys roster spots up in the air. Is the team going to keep 9 linemen? If so I’d like to see Baas, Snyder, Sims, and Boone make it as the backups. A lot of versitility there with Boone being a high upside project ( also Snyder at interior positions).
WR will be fun to watch as well. Crabs and Morgan are locks, Ginn is almost in the same boat. So that leaves 2, possibly 3 spots left. Will it be Williams, who could be our PR and slot reciever? Jason Hill who still has to prove he can be a productive WR ( though I believe he hasn’t got a fair shake). Brandon Jones who’s getting a relatively hefty paycheck? Ziegler? One of the camp bodies? Personally I’d select Williams and Hill to join Crabs, Morgan, and Ginn as our WR core.
DB? Clements, Spencer, and Brown are locks at CB. While Lewis, Mays, and Goldson locks at Safety. Not a lot of room for extras. We need at least 1 more at each position. So maybe Reggie Smith and Will James?
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by Hoopers Judge on Jul 20, 2010 1:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Fullback's for me ...
… and i’m not kiss’n up to King Jame’s per say ( maybe alittle ) … but i’m intriged at that spot , it’s all about Miller tyme …!!
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I couldn't choose just one battle.... I'm REALLY interested in ALL of them...
I’m really, really excited waiting for the opening of camp. I 100% believe that this will be our most competitive and exciting camp in a decade, we’ll be waiving several players who’ll end up on somebody else’s 53.
I’ve viewed highlight videos of most of the rookies and feel that, top to bottom, this could very well go down as one of our very best draft classes ever. I’m especially intrigued by Kyle Williams, Anthony Dixon, the miniVann, Iupati and Davis, Bowman, and Mays.
I’ve also projected Chris Maragos, Patrick Stoudamire, Philip Adams, Jarrett Brown, Nate Byham, and Bakari Grant as PSers. That’s at least 13 draftees or UFAs making the club, and I want to see what Scott Long brings to the table once the pads go on… Heck, that’s darn near all the rooks…
Also, once the pads are on, I want to see what type of progress has been made by our young players returning from last season: RJ-F at nose, Briggs at LB, Reggie Smith and Curtis Taylor at S, Miller at FB, all the WRs, Smith and Nate Davis at QB, and the veterans we picked up during the off-season.
I’m just excited… let’s get this thing under way so we can stop speculating and start observing….
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
I gotta say that the O-Line battles have to be number one
Anyone who analyzes the “weaknesses” of the team last season almost anyone who didnt say Alex Smith would have said that the Offensive Line was the weakest but now with a talent upgrade in their two first round picks and i’ll even throw in Alex Boone who has great upside and before all of his issues with alcohol was considered to be a late first round to second round talent means potential we could have one of the better line in the league if they live up to their potential and if Davis and Iupati start week one then four of our offensive linemen who have been selected in the first or second round (Three 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder)
WILD CARD!!
TKO vs Bowman?
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 5. John Estes C 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Stephfon Green RB 7. Julian Posey CB
OLine
can hardly wait to see this “NEW IMPROVED” Boone with the pads on.
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