Roster projections: Bring back an old friend?
by Tre9er on Aug 17, 2010 7:37 AM PDT
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Now that we've had a few roster moves and the first pre-season game of 2010, I'm making slight changes to my projected 53-man roster. The obvious one being replacing Glen Coffee with Brian Westbrook as the second RB on the roster...but still...I stopped at 52 men because of something I thought of. Check out the roster below, then after the jump I'll make a few cases for the 53rd man.
Many have suggested the 49ers will only keep four CB's and use a safety as the Nickel back. I was hesitant at first to follow along with this theory, but Reggie Smith did in fact sub-in a lot in Nickel both in practice as well as the game against the Colts last Sunday.
I have Paymah making the team because I watched the guy play and he's a few things that I like and I think the coaches will too: He's pretty fast, and he plays big and physical. He even looked bigger than I expected not to mention he was mixing it up, getting into the pile, etc. He also plays special teams which is a big plus for that fourth CB.
I suppose the easy choice for 53rd man would be a third TE. I'm still not sold on this idea though, especially with two FB's and three RB's. Maybe this will happen...maybe not.
One could also argue against Curtis Taylor making the squad as the 5th safety, but I think if you're going to use three safeties regularly on defense and the fourth on special teams as well as serving as the backup...you want a fifth guy. Maybe I'm wrong though.
The potential player for the 53rd spot could also be a fifth CB...but not so much because he's needed there immediately. Let me explain further:
So far I was not impressed by Ted Ginn in the return game. Even on kickoffs, his specialty from last season, he looked like he went down easily and didn't find a seam. Kyle Williams looked great in my opinion and should be the favorite to be BOTH the KR and the PR.
Still, Williams brings a lot to the table on offense and so maybe we don't want him playing so much in the return game. I'd like him to be the punt returner and the backup kick returner. So if I don't like Ginn and I want to keep Williams fresh and healthy for some work in the slot...who could be the kick returner?
Re-enter LeRoy Vann.
I know, he's a cult hero, LRVWOF...yadda yadda. The kid has a great attitude and we know he has skills, they just need to be honed. He didn't drop any punts in training camp, that was all early-on in OTA's. He's put in extra time and is a confident kid with a good approach to life and the game of football. Personally I think that kind of guy is good for a football team.
Talk amongst yourselves.
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I'm guessing by "Re-Enter" you know
that Leroy Vann was cut from the roster….
I dunno I still would prefer another CB like Will James on the roster. If you only carry 4 CB’s and one gets injured, you’re in some trouble (even if we have some fast safeties)
yes, that's why I said re-enter
and the title is “bring back an old friend?”
Yeah, IDK about the CB thing either. Guessing they try to PS both Adams and Stoudamire and call one up if necessary. Or cut Taylor (which I don’t like that move) and roster another CB.
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James
He’s injured and presumably for the remainder of preseason. Considering he was late to enter the picture and the team seems to think highly of Adams, I would imagine he’d be elevated from the PS if we needed another CB. James might sit on the market as well if we release him, though that’d be tough considering how much B’more is hurting at corner.
by 9thevolution on Aug 18, 2010 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah I don't know how you can make the team
being injured to start the off-season (OTA’s and mini-camp he barely practiced at all) then have a few nicks in training camp, then end up missing half of camp and 3 of the 4 preseason games due to injury…that doesn’t give you much practice in a new defense nor does it bode well for your health going into the reg. season…
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Injury settlement is what I'm thinking
Like what happened with Walt Harris. The only question then would be do we bring in another CB or keep Adams on the ready on the PS. The most logical choice I would say is to do the latter. We have Smith who can play both S and CB if needed.
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I think Adams on the PS or the 53
at this point it’s going to be hard to bring a guy from the outside up to speed and if they’re mostly playing ST’s and being an emergency guy, why spend resources trying to find and train a guy?
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I would be for bringing Vann back, but
He’d unfortunately end up being victim of the numbers game and he doesn’t really add more of a dimension other than PR/KR. I’d like him back for now mainly to see what he can do while KW is down for the next couple weeks. If he tears it up, the Williams/Ginn/Vann connection would be pretty formidable.
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likin the 2 weeks idea
give Ginn some formidable competition while KW is out. Ginn has not looked great in the return game thus far and he needs to be pushed.
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Could be a moot point if he gets in with DET
But if not, let’s start the petition now! hehehe
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Hmmm ... what the he!!Tre, that's twice with no BOONE ...!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
Can't quite give him edge over Sims
but he’s gaining ground. Got some nice compliments on his game on Sunday though against lower competition. He, like a few others, needs to get in with the 1st team and see what he’s got. The rookies played A LONG TIME on Sunday, longer than I’d think. Then again, when exactly did Boone get in the game?
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Definitely Boone over Sims, especially since Sims is lousy at RT.
Adams will make the club as the 5th CB
Both Norris and Miller won’t make it as they already have Robinson
You didn’t list the ST players of Robinson, Nedney, Jennings and Lee.
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I didn't realize that I had to click on the picture to expand it and see ST.
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depends on your resolution
I have a 19" widescreen on one side and a 22" WS on the other…on my 19 WS it shows up fine.
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I don't understand people wanting an untested young guy over a veteran tackle
I’ll be shocked if Sims isn’t on the roster come September
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because you're done with Boone if you cut him
he wont survive waivers. So you’re taking Sims, a guy who’s gonna give you 1 year, if that…he’s 35 dude. Boone has upside and sometimes that’s worth more…sacrifice now for 8 years (ie.) of future.
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And if it comes to Boone being cut or staying
why not get rid of Wallace or Wragge?
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I'd cut Wragge for Boone
but who’d backup G/C? Snyder? Why not just cut Snyder instead and keep Boone, let Wragge be the backup at G and C?
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Baas
Starting O-line: Staley, Iupati, Heitman, Rachal, Davis
Backup tackle Sims, Boone
Backup guard/center—Baas
Backup guard—Snyder/Boone/Wragge (whichever one makes the roster)
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that's what I meant
right now I’m talking in terms of right now…EH is out. We will roster 9 OL’s. I think Snyder should be gone for now because we need Wragge to backup Baas until EH is back. Boone is a better backup at Tackle than Snyder anyways, IMO you can’t get much worse than Snyd.
When EH comes back I think you cut Wragge.
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3rd string?
boone could be the primary backup at both tackle positions for years to come.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Based on what?
What production has he had to show he can be a solid backup?
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Just because he lost 15 lbs over the off season and looks good in pads
doesn’t mean he’s ready to be a solid ball player
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his feet looked much better Sunday
and there were really no protection problems from the Left side when he was in the game. That’s a step in the right direction.
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he obviously doesn't have any production
because he hasn’t played yet. but you can’t deny that he has the potential to be a long-term quality backup
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
So does De La Puente
Every rookie in camp has the potential to be a long-term quality backup.
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Boone has talent.
Projected 2nd round pick before jumping on some cars.
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by Hoopers Judge on Aug 17, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Boone has looked much better, I mean in play not just his body
although he is sexy
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51?
I count 48 players in your list. Adding Nedney and Lee gives 50. Assuming you bring on M Robinson as a STer, that’s 51. Are there 2 spots open, or is there another pure STer?
click on the image
he’s got brian jennings and m-rob on special teams as well…
sorry
I have a widescreen monitor and don’t know much about embedding images, like to make them auto-fit everyone’s screens…sorry
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Fred Smoot Dre Bly, maybe pick up one of the CB's that the Bengals will release.
I did notice Terrail Lambert making our returnman fumble vs the Colts.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
you saying that's what you'd add to my list?
over a guy like Philip Adams, Nate Byham (or Curtis/Finley), or Vann?
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which is fine, just curious
"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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Bly is already with the Lions if I remember correctly
by 9thevolution on Aug 18, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
yep
I had forgotten that too but yep
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How about Jeff Garcia?
I think he could push Alex Smith for the starter’s spot.
They're called RUNS for a reason.
believe he signed in the UFL last week
"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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He was on Pros Vs Joes last week....
and it looked like he could play freakin Strong Safety, laying the wood lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 17, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
i have seen it twice....
but just because there was absolutely nothing else on lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 18, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I was hoping for Vann, but looks like the niners have moved on. Wish they had kept him for a few more weeks (seriously, why release him so early? Especially with KW hurtin a little now?)
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by theghostofjasonellison on Aug 17, 2010 12:21 PM PDT reply actions
they're still at 79
awaiting Franklin, who I’m guessing returns next Monday or the following one. Still, they could have kept him until the last minute
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Did anybody else spend any time focusing on Ricky Jean Francois on Sunday?
I watched him more than the more established players, and I thought that he did a pretty good job. Considering that Franklin will make $7 mil+ this season, I’m not all that certain that we need him back (but we will need another nose as a backup to RJF). Granted, it was only one game, and I didn’t focus on him every play, but I’m not as concerned about the nose as I once was…
Back to the topic… I was one who jumped on the miniVann’s bandwagon as soon as I saw his college highlight reel. I was sorry we didn’t at least give him a chance to show what he could do in an exhibition game or two, so I’m with ya on this Tre (though I have a few misgivings on your “52”.
And as far as Tre’s comment “So far I was not impressed by Ted Ginn in the return game. Even on kickoffs, his specialty from last season, he looked like he went down easily and didn’t find a seam.” I’ve been preaching that ever since we traded for him. My line has always been that “Ginn has great physical skills, but NO fysical skills”. I’m beginning to feel at least somewhat vindicated, now that somebody with as great a reputation as Tre is at least beginning to lean my way…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Ginn
I saw him fold over like a noodle on the one return and I saw him shy from contact a few times. I’m thinking we were all dumb to think he’d be anything more than a “Go route” receiver and little else.
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Nose Tackle
I watched Khalif Mitchell too. Kid has a large base and looked strong and disruptive. He’s played outside and inside so I think he’s earning a roster spot. He could backup NT if RJF was the starter, and Sopoaga is the emergency NT with McDonald sliding into his spot (or Evans or Tukuafu or whomever you want to argue)
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misgivings on my 52
I’m all ears.
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actually my wife'd say...
I’m all nose…I got a honker, but I digress…
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nothing major, but...
FB: I’m keeping only 1, and it’s Miller.
TE: I’m keeping a 3rd, who can also be an H-Back and ST contributor (if it’s not Byham, then we PS him)
WR: I’m not keeping Ginn. With his lack of courage, when (if) he catches a 3rd down pass late in a game and needs to turn up field and get another yard or two to keep the drive alive, he’ll go down (or OB) short of the 1st in order to avoid a big hit. I’m keeping Hill… gunner on punt team, etc.
DL: I am now waffling on Franklin being one of them, as I said.
LB: I’m keeping 9 instead of your 8-the same 8 you mentioned, +1 (LBs are usually the core of your STs). I liked what I saw from Bruce Davis on Sunday.
I’m keeping 9 DBs, as you are, but I’m waiving Lewis due to a combination of salary/age/history of concussions, and keeping James (assuming he recovers quickly enough from his injury) or Adams (if he progresses quickly enough)
That’s 53.
If we re-sign Vann, give him another try and he sticks, we have to create a roster position for him. We could possibly go with 8 OL, or 6 DL, if we keep him strictly as a STer, or get rid of my current 9th DB (waive James, or PS Adams), if we keep him as a CB.
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
They will go with 9 OL until after Heitmann returns.
At that time I think Wragge goes.
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reaction:
Wouldn’t hate keeping only Miller, though he’ll play every special teams unit, so he’ll be tired and possibly injured.
Don’t mind keeping the 3rd TE if he really impacts games…but not completely sold on it.
I believe we have no control over Franklin at this point, correct? He signs, he get’s the money…we’d be fools to cut him then. Can we cut him now? I might Keep Tukuafu and Mitchell…I like the DL depth we have.
If I’m keeping an extra LB I don’t know…it’s either LaBoy or an ILB because Wilhelm is really, really average. LaBoy has to show something or he’s a goner. I know Wilhelm has experience but I saw him in the vicinity of several plays only to be in on none of them. Too many passes completed within 3 yards of him, too many tackles he didn’t get to…
Not against 5 CB’s, especially if we use a Dime CB sometimes and have 2 of them playing ST’s. Have to cut a Safety though…Taylor has looked good but would be a candidate…sucks he’s not PS eligible though.
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Miller
Dude won’t get worn out just from playing special teams. That’s like saying a player is worn out after two series of play
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well just sayin
running down as gunner on KO then staying out to play FB for a few plays, followed by punt team (hopefully not) and then 3 plays later, punt return team…I guess a few guys are this active on the team though so I suppose you’re right.
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We won't be using a FB on every offensive snap
No FB when we’re in the spread/shotgun, no FB when using an H-back
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
hey
doesnt miller play TE and FB? couldve sworn we used him on both postions last year? the kid has potential i rather keep him then norris who is still on the team because he is GOREs guy.
he's a good receiver
but I don’t think he’s really played much/any TE to know the playbook
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thought it was interesting
they used Delanie Walker as an H-Back a few times on Sunday…if that’s the plan it might end up being 3-TE’s and 1 FB (Miller). Miller looked great as a blocker I gotta say.
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Hmmm
I thought you were talking about Walt Harris. Never mind—he signed a 1-year deal with the Ravens.
I may hate your timing, but I can't hate your reason for leaving. Vaya con Dios, Glen Coffee.
then they waived/injured him
and did an injury settlement with him…I believe he’s currently unemployed is the bottom line.
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I agree with your list except
Instead of Wragge i would keep Cody Wallace and instead of Evans i would keep Will tuakufu or whatever his name is. I would have Will James as the 53rd man if heals up fast enough otherwise keep Adams
cody wallace
is a BIG waste of time. he has not produced or shown any flashes he will be good, it amazes me how he is still on the team. especially now that baas is probably gonna end up being the back up C and wragge behind him. get rid of wallace.
i don't think they need to keep Moran Norris.
if Brit Miller goes down, M.Rob could fill in as the emergency fullback for the rest of the game, and then after the game they could elevate Jehuu Caulcrick from the practice squad.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Caulcrick...he's in his 3rd or 4th season
I’m betting his PS eligibility is gone by now…but I like him as a better Norris in time. Not gonna cry if they cut Norris, but Miller will be playing so much ST’s that I hope he doesn’t get hurt.
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caulcrick has played two seasons on PS.
so he should be eligible for one more year.
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I change my projection
Cut Snyder, Boone makes it in his place. When Heitmann comes back we cut Wragge. Baas may challenge for Chilo’s spot by then too if Sing doesn’t “knock him [Chilo] out” first. Then cut Wragge. If EH get’s hurt again move Baas back in the middle and Rachal get’s RG back.
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Why Ginn looked bad - Sing?!
That’s right Sing. He wants them to “hit that there” not “out there” so Ginn “hit that there” and “there” just so happens to be the middle of the field. Ginn needs to be set up outside, not inside. Sorry Sing, but let the guy run where he wants to.
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
Ginn had one return
One.
One of his TDs against the Jets came on a return up the middle
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This is true
Then he turned it outside where he smoked the D. I think it might be harder to set up outside returns with the lack of a wall.
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
Yeah
Your basic point is true—he definitely returns better on the outside (most players do anyway since there’s fewer guys to avoid).
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We need to seal the edge
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I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
I frequently don't agree with you Tre, but in this case I like your roster, except ...
Substitue Boone for Sims at OT (all the reasons given above)
Add Byham as third TE
Then add the four specialists — Jennings (LS), Lee (P), Nedney (K), Robinson (ST)
With Robinson available as a backup FB (and possibly Caulcrick on the PS), I would much prefer to keep Jason Hill as a sixth WR and ST player than keep Moran Norris as a FB. However, I don’t think that I can talk long and loud enough to convince the group on that one. It’s difficult to assess Norris vs. Miller in preseason because Norris doesn’t get many snaps; but every time I watch Norris I see him going south fast.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Aug 17, 2010 8:17 PM PDT reply actions
Byham played well
and he’s rather beastly. I hope he makes it on the 53.
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
Byham played well?
You’re blind and either didn’t watch the game or just naive. Byham caught two balls but blocked like an overmatched rookie. No bloody noses there.
No need for personal attacks
Although it’s good (for me) to hear that Byham sucked.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 19, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
the specialists are there, you have to click the picture
I must have a different screen res. than most of you because I shrunk the image so it would all show up…I’m only on a 19" widescreen on this, my second monitor and it all shows up for me without clicking the image…weird
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he's back in practice now
he should play some on Sunday barring anything else happening.
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So Wilhelm...
If I told you we had to cut him (which I’m really starting to think about) who would you sub in his place? Balogun? Kristick?
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Kristick was all over the field on Sunday. If he doesn't make the 53 (I don't think he will) then he should make the PS
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I'm thinking Wilhelm still makes it because of experience
But if we had to, I’d say Balogun. He showed really good potential last week and comes from a better program.
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I really like what I saw from our 2nd team D-Line on Sunday too
McDonald, RJF, Mitchell
These guys held the point well and MItchell get’s good penetration for being over 3-bills. He was all over, really they all were. Feeling a lot better about our DL now that I’ve seen them, granted it was against the 2nd team but still they showed strength to hold and the ability to shed and pursue.
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u guys really think they will keep miller over norris? not gonna happen.
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
i hope they aren't stupid enough
to start norris over miller.
seriously, brit miller is a stud.
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how bout this:
italics = listed elsewhere | (parentheses) = injured | * = return coverage unit
QB Alex Smith, David Carr, Nate Davis
FB Brit Miller*
RB Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook, Anthony Dixon
WR Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Ted Ginn, (Kyle Williams), Dominique Zeigler
TE Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker*, Nate Byham
RT Anthony Davis, Adam Snyder
RG Chilo Rachal, Tony Wragge, Adam Snyder
C (Eric Heitmann), David Baas, Tony Wragge
LG Mike “Papa T” Iupati, David Baas
LT Joe Staley, Alex Boone
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DE Justin Smith, Demetric Evans, Khalif Mitchell
NT Aubrayo Franklin, Ricky Jean-Francois, Khalif Mitchell
DE Isaac Sopoaga, Ray McDonald
WLB Parys Haralson, Diyral “Lance” Briggs, Travis LaBoy
MLB Patrick Willis, Matt Wilhelm*
TLB Takeo Spikes, Navorro Bowman
SLB Manny Lawson, (Ahmad Brooks)
CB Nate Clements, Tarell Brown*, Phillip Adams
CB Shawntae Spencer, Karl Paymah*
SS Michael Lewis, Taylor Mays*, Curtis Taylor*
FS Dashon Goldson, Reggie Smith*
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K Joe Nedney
P Andy Lee
KR Ted Ginn
PR (Kyle Williams), Ted Ginn
STC Michael Robinson*
NOTE: there is still one spot TBD on the return coverage unit, due to Glen Coffee’s retirement. it would probably come down to Briggs, Bowman, and possibly LaBoy.
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Practice Squad:
QB Jarret Brown
FB Jehuu Caulcrick
TE Tony Curtis
WR Bakari Grant
CB Patrick Stoudamire
S Chris Maragos
OLB Bruce Davis
DL Will Tukuafa
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possibly
try and get one of the ILB’s on the PS too…Kristick of Balogun. I’m not confident in Wilhelm and he’s not going to be around forever.
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they can have
Tony Curtis’s spot. PS-quality TEs are easy to come by.
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I would swap out somebody for Balogun or Kristick
Unless we pay for one of them to live outside the U.S. then we can have nine. Seriously, that’s what the rule is.
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wierd rule.
maybe we could give Kristick a houseboat 12.5 miles offshore. that’s international waters, and it’s a lot closer to SF than Canada.
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hahaha
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hmm...didnt know that (obviously)
but dont worry, i already gave his spot to keaton kristick. he’s still got a good 3 years left.
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youre missing Jennings on Special Teams
so there’s your last spot.
That’s pretty much what I have but you’ve subbed Byham for Norris, Boone for Sims (which I don’t mind, or Boone for Snyder), You have 5 OLB’s and 5 CB’s and no Brian Jennings.
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totally forgot about Jennings.
Longsnappers don’t cross my mind very often, surprisingly enough.
i guess he gets Khalif Mitchell’s spot, and Mitchell takes Bakari Grant’s spot on the PS, if he clears waivers.
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nooooooooo
Mitchell has to make it. He’s legit DL depth.
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so should i cut laboy or try to get phillip adams through waivers?
or see if i can trade them both for carmelo anthony?
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by these3words on Aug 18, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
bwahahaha
cut LaBoy…missed practice this AM (padded practice) and will return this PM, guessing that’s going to be a “shells” practice…SMH
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LaBoy
Has been a waste thus far. I’d rather just stick Takuafu on the roster and sub him in as a nickel rusher and STer. He might be able to put up decent sack numbers if given the chance like we did with Brooks.
by 9thevolution on Aug 19, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
good point
kid played some LB in college before Sr. year…so if we had a weird scheme where we dropped the DE into coverage it wouldn’t be completely alien to him. He’s got a motor too…as a situational, backup pass rusher would be a good way to develop him, plus he can play special teams too, which I bet LaBoy wouldn’t do.
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I really think that the coaches have no intention of investing in high priced pass rushers
If we can constantly bring in OLBs and develop them slowly like Brooks and Briggs, why bother spending high picks on a pass rusher? The Steelers do this all the time. Once a LB gets really good and has high market value, his replacement is ready to step in and there’s little to no drop off. I really think that’s what they plan on doing and with our scheme, it works really well. WT also fits this mold quite well, so if he doesn’t make roster, he’ll be on the PS. Question is, who gets cut for him to make the 53? It would likely be a DL or secondary player. We already have our top 8 LBs set for this year.
by 9thevolution on Aug 19, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm an advocate of keeping 9 LBs. They almost always make excellent STers
I agree that our top 8 LBs are pretty much set. I really liked Tukuafu’s motor last Sunday, but I liked Bruce Davis’ motor at least as much, probably more. I think that LaBoy’s gone, we need somebody who’s not injured all the time, that either Davis or Tukuafu makes the 53 with the other being PS’d.
We have so many young kids that I’d like to PS, however. Both Balogun and Kristick have shown enough on the inside to justify being PS’d, as well. How do we PS 14 or 15? Maybe we can get 6 or 7 to get IR’d with severe hangnails or something…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
lets try this again:
italics = listed elsewhere | (parentheses) = injured | * = return coverage unit
QB Alex Smith, David Carr, Nate Davis
FB Brit Miller*
RB Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook, Anthony Dixon
WR Michael Crabtree, Josh Morgan, Ted Ginn, (Kyle Williams), Dominique Zeigler
TE Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker*, Nate Byham
RT Anthony Davis, Adam Snyder
RG Chilo Rachal, Tony Wragge, Adam Snyder
C (Eric Heitmann), David Baas, Tony Wragge
LG Mike "Papa T" Iupati, David Baas
LT Joe Staley, Alex Boone
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DE Justin Smith, Demetric Evans, Khalif Mitchell
NT Aubrayo Franklin, Ricky Jean-Francois, Khalif Mitchell
DE Isaac Sopoaga, Ray McDonald
WLB Parys Haralson, Diyral "Lance" Briggs,
MLB Patrick Willis, Matt Wilhelm*
TLB Takeo Spikes, Navorro Bowman
SLB Manny Lawson, (Ahmad Brooks)
CB Nate Clements, Tarell Brown*, Phillip Adams
CB Shawntae Spencer, Karl Paymah*
SS Michael Lewis, Taylor Mays*, Curtis Taylor*
FS Dashon Goldson, Reggie Smith*
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K Joe Nedney
P Andy Lee
KR Ted Ginn
PR (Kyle Williams), Ted Ginn
STC Michael Robinson*
LS Brian Jennings
NOTE: there is still one spot TBD on the return coverage unit, due to Glen Coffee’s retirement. it would probably come down to Briggs and Bowman.
Practice Squad:
QB Jarrett Brown
FB Jehuu Caulcrick
DL Will Tukuafu
ILB Keaton Kristick
ILB Mike Balogun
OLB Bruce Davis
CB Patrick Stoudamire
S Chris Maragos
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really don't know about Byham
Raye’s comments seemed elusive yesterday. Like he kept talking about the potential Byham showed in OTA’s but didn’t comment a whole lot about him playing well right now. Curtis seemed to be the guy lately, if they keep 3.
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we should stop drafting TEs in the 6th round.
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I know
Looking like Curtis will make the squad maybe unless they’re willing to take their lumps with Byham because of some upside they see in him over Curtis…
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words, your 53 + PS looks amazingly like mine (we differ in only 1 of the 53)
I also like all the kids you PS’d… I’d just like to PS a few more (or somehow slip ’em onto IR). But a question: how did you become the heir apparent to Bluto (from the movie “Animal House”) as the official giver of nicknames?
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
apparently i'm not the official giver of nicknames
it seems Mike Iupati will now be called “IHOP” as suggested by mr. instigator in the nicknames thread.
so instead, i am now pushing the nickname “Mr. Gator” for mr. instigator.
P.S. who is the one player you disagree with me on? is it Nate Byham, because i’m thinking of kicking him down to the PS and putting Bruce Davis, Travis LaBoy, or Tony Curtis on the 53 instead.
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No, it isn't Byham. With apologies to those who've already read this from me and feel that
I’m “pummeling a deceased equine”… I am NOT a fan of Ted Ginn. He lacks courage and, in spite of superior physical skills, has NO fysical skills. He’ll take a dive or run OB a yard short of the 1st to avoid contact after a catch, late in the game when we desperately need a 1st down. I’ve played with such a player, and he constantly let us down when we needed him the most. It’s my personal prejudice, but I’m entitled….
I agree that we could PS Byham to create a position for someone w/o any further PS eligibility, such as Curtis or Finley (Curtis is the better receiver of the two, but our #3 TE has to be the better blocker).
And I just caught another difference between our 53s… I have 9 LBs and only 8 OL (I haven’t yet decided between Wragge and Snyder-you had both-I didn’t catch it at first), and my “expanded” PS has an emergency OLman on it (I’m really going to have to work to cut my PS down to 8)
I don’t understand the derivation of “IHOP” for Iupati (nor of “Papa T”, for that matter)…We could call mr. instigator “Al” as in “Al-igator”. I guess you could call me OJ, but please don’t (I’ve never murdered anybody…. yet)
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
i thought about calling you O.J., but i decided against it.
anyway, Iupati got the name “IHOP” because all he serves is pancakes. or so mr. instigator says.
and “Papa T” just sounded sorta like his last name.
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OMG, you're up as late as I am....
Thanks for the info…
After all was said and done, a lot more got said than done.
Later, actually.
I’m in the Mountain Time Zone.
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more than a WR in his mid-30s.
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that was kinda troll-ish
random, and kinda not valid
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