49ers Training Camp: Nate Davis and Anthony Dixon to be tested
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Earlier today this topic came up in discussion, but upon receiving the transcripts from today's media sessions, I thought it was worth pulling it out in a separate post. Earlier today offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye spoke specifically about preseason playing time as it applies to running back Anthony Dixon and quarterback Nate Davis:
On whether RB Anthony Dixon's performance against Indianapolis solidifies him as the No. 2 running back:
"I think he put himself in position, obviously, to warrant more snaps and earlier snaps against better competition to see if there really is something, if that really manifests itself when he plays more snaps and against better competition.
On what earlier snaps means for Dixon:
"Earlier in a preseason game."
On QB Nate Davis' progress in games versus practice:
"Well, visually yes. I mean from an aesthetic standpoint, yes it would be. He has progressed you know, he has. The one ability that he has highlighted when he plays in the parts of the game that he plays in because if a guy is open, he'll hit him, he will get the ball to them. He is another guy that's in a position where he needs to play early on against guys who have played in the NFL. He needs to play in that level, and see where he is in his development, depth wise."
On whether that could happen in the upcoming preseason games:
"Yes, we need to do a couple of things at that position. So in terms of earlier play in the second and third exhibition games, we will experiment with some of that."
As I mentioned a couple days ago in regards to Nate Davis, the time has come to get a better idea of what Nate Davis brings to the table. In the current context, that means more snaps earlier in preseason games. Obviously your starters need to work on getting rid of the rust, but the preseason is also about seeing what your young guys can do.
The same holds true for Anthony Dixon. And in fact, it's an even bigger deal with Dixon. Frank Gore gets banged up on occasion and Brian Westbrook has had a lot of injury concerns over the years. Dixon is likely to see more playing time in the regular season than Nate Davis, so you might as well see what he does against first and second string defenses instead of slightly tired second string defenses and then third and fourth string defenses.
This kind of discussion actually gets me even more excited about this Sunday's game against the Vikings. Let's hope we see a lot of both of them.
Offensive Coordinator Jimmy Raye
Post- Morning Practice - August 18, 2010
San Francisco 49ers
On evaluating exhibition games:
"Well basically what we try to do is, and I think I alluded to this earlier last week in the time that we were here, is we try to give them an opportunity for the first time with a simple installation, to be able to go down the street and fight their brother because they've been practicing against each other and have been around each other since March, and practicing against each other and gotten pretty comfortable in that environment. So then we like to see them in a competitive environment without a whole lot of assignment responsibility changes, just see them play in a competitive environment and evaluate that process. You incrementally increase that as you head toward the final exhibition game as you get more solidarity and head more toward a game plan situation to start the season. So the stats are not functional for us in an exhibition game, particularly the first one and the second one. We're really looking to see how clear the picture is and let them use their athleticism and play within the framework of what we've given them up until this point."
On QB Alex Smith's development:
"I think it has been outstanding. I think the game, the pace visually and mentally, has slowed down for him now. I think he's comfortable with what he's seeing and what the calls are. I would expect as he builds toward the start of the championship season that he'll hit the ground running. I think it would be asinine to judge a quarterback in an exhibition season, based on the idea of people and plays and changes that are in and out and not a game plan situation. To make a judgment on statistics, statistical analysis on what a quarterback does, for me in the preseason, would not be wholesome at all."
On whether he is changing schemes now that RB Brian Westbrook has joined the team:
"No, not we haven't done that at all. We will, I don't really know Brian Westbrook as a player. I know his reputation. Until we get him indoctrinated into the things that we run, the fundamental that he has to learn, we'll make the decision on that going forward. We would like, you know obviously with his experience and the kind of production that he's had, we'd like to get in a situation where as we go forward that maybe we can incorporate him in some things that would take care of his abilities, but as it is right now he's in the same road that [running back] Glen Coffee would have been in; in a position to learn and play some snaps behind [running back] Frank Gore. And I would probably feel a little differently about this had we not experience what we did over in Indianapolis on Sunday because to me it's not an open-and-closed deal. I think [running back] Anthony Dixon is very much in the running for vying for time at that position as the guy that goes in to replace Gore."
On whether he finds Westbrook's reputation as a receiver intriguing:
"Yes it is. And then I have to measure that against the exposure of the quarterback with a young offensive line. I can't get so enamored with trying to get something done for Brian Westbrook that it doesn't allow us, to allow the offensive line guys, to develop so that we can stand up and play upright. So all of that will take care of itself as we go forward, but we have a maturing thing that's going on in terms of the continuity and the front, and until we solidify ground with the front, then all of the frills and thrills of the external part of it has to take a back seat."
On whether RB Anthony Dixon's performance against Indianapolis solidifies him as the No. 2 running back:
"I think he put himself in position, obviously, to warrant more snaps and earlier snaps against better competition to see if there really is something, if that really manifests itself when he plays more snaps and against better competition.
On what earlier snaps means for Dixon:
"Earlier in a preseason game."
On what Dixon showed in the preseason game against Indianapolis versus camp:
"The physicality of which he ran with the football, his ability when people would cut clean on him in the backfield to take a minus-five-yard play and make it a 19-yard play. His ability to play without the ball was something that we had some concerns about. He demonstrated, again it was his first outing, but he demonstrated that he has different from what we've seen in practice in a live situation. So I think it helped him get in a position where he should get more consideration and more time and be vying. He was a very good special teams player and you can't judge that until you actually get a live situation. So all in all, the performance with the ball was, for a first-year guy and a first opportunity, was pretty good."
On how he will incorporate Westbrook:
"Well if I tell you that then I might as well tell the whole league. We'll determine that as we go."
On how important it is for the first-team offense to build success in the next two games:
"I think it's important. I think it's like anything else; you need to have some reassurance that what you're doing gives you some instant gratification. You don't want to go into the start of the league season not having made first downs, not having converted on third downs, wondering are we going to, if this going to turn around when the season starts - because now you're in a hope situation rather than an expectation situation and what you'd like to get done, as they play 15 plays, or a quarter, or 30 plays, or two halves, you'd like for them to have some success so they can realize what they're doing in training camp; all the time and energy they put in and headed toward their league season that they're in a position to go play, rather than wondering if it's going to come together."
On WR Dominique Zeigler:
"Dominique has had an outstanding camp. But a year ago I saw in him do the same things. It just didn't come to fruition because in the last exhibition game down in San Diego he got a high ankle sprain. He had shown the same qualities. This time he's stayed, he's been healthy and he's taken another step in terms of his familiarity and the confidence that [quarterback] Alex Smith has in him. Right now it's what you've seen in a pretty good performance."
On whether Zeigler's injury last year affected his roster spot
"He was certainly in contention to make the active roster, yes."
On whether the absence of TE Vernon Davis and WR Michael Crabtree stalls the development of the offense:
"Yeah, it's always a constant changing deal for the quarterback, and at same point the unit needs to be together and practicing together, and that has been hit or miss with the injuries. You kind of expect that in training camp a little bit, but it's gone on, for us it has gone on longer than usually. So we have one in and one out or both out, not in; but we have to adjust to that and go on and whenever they're healthy and they're ready to go, then we'll try to pick up and do double time and get ourselves in a position where we get to where we want to be going into the league season."
On QB Nate Davis' progress in games versus practice:
"Well, visually yes. I mean from an aesthetic standpoint, yes it would be. He has progressed you know, he has. The one ability that he has highlighted when he plays in the parts of the game that he plays in because if a guy is open, he'll hit him, he will get the ball to them. He is another guy that's in a position where he needs to play early on against guys who have played in the NFL. He needs to play in that level, and see where he is in his development, depth wise."
On whether that could happen in the upcoming preseason games:
"Yes, we need to do a couple of things at that position. So in terms of earlier play in the second and third exhibition games, we will experiment with some of that."
On TE Nate Byham's progress and his blocking abilities:
"Well, we saw some semblance of it in the spring of the year. Usually you can tell about a young guy when he is not in pads and it's an up-tempo drill, he showed no back down and he didn't have pads on so you wouldn't know if it would transfer. Usually if a guy without pads will do the same things with his hat and his head without pads on that he does with pads on, it's a pretty good sign. He has been nicked up some, but to this point he has been pretty good in that area in terms of inline blocking, and he has the ability also to play a little bit in the backfield as a fullback. So the F position has created a good opportunity for him if he keeps developing."
On Vikings' QB Brett Favre coming back:
"I'm coming back! Well having been around him, he is a unique gift as it is similar to Warren Moon when I had him at 44. Those guys that have that God-given talent that throw a football and have their arms tied to their brain, they are very unique, and the fact that he has taken very good care of himself has extended his career so he can still get out of the way. Usually what stops an older guy is the lacking of mobility and the pressure when people blitz him, but he can still get the ball out. He is still in pretty good shape. I think New Orleans went after him pretty good in the one game and beat him up, but he's a warrior. He still has great arm talent and arm speed. And his velocity is still there. And his body is, at least for when I was last with him, his body was relatively young in terms of his chronological age, so he's been able to play and stay healthy. I don't think he has missed a game in probably 300 starts or something, which is rare, but I'm not surprised at all he is still playing."
On whether Westbrook will play this weekend against the Vikings:
"Well, we'll check with the medical staff and the trainers. What we don't want to do is put him out there and he's not sure of what he's doing. He hasn't been to a training camp or an offseason program all offseason, and to create a strain, create a situation physically that we could avoid if were just to be patient and take our time. So that will depend as we get further along in the week. He took some snaps today and was being told what to do. He is a pretty smart guy, so I think he will pick it up as he transfers the terminology from where he's been for eight years to what we're doing and saying, so there's a chance he could get some work if the trainers and the medical people think it's prudent."
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I love Raye's interview's ... he;s very articulate .. ( gotta love that hat ) ...!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
people love him
They may not like his play-calling, but he gets complimented by a lot of folks here about his media sessions.
by David Fucillo on Aug 18, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Think'n he's juz forgetful at time's ...
… like what down it is , how many yard’s to go , did i juz call a run play oh well run it again …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
Or it could be a communication problem ...
… Hey coach Rathman what play we call last time … ( Rathman ) , we ran it up the middle , (Smith ) i need a play coach , (Raye) .. Rathman say’s run it up the middle , (Smith) hmmm ok coach … Hey coach Rathman what play we call last time … ( Rathman ) , we ran it up the middle , (Smith ) i need a play coach , (Raye) .. Rathman say’s run it up the middle , (Smith) hmmm ok coach … Hey coach Rathman what play we call last time … ( Rathman ) , we ran it up the middle , (Smith ) i need a play coach , (Raye) .. Rathman say’s run it up the middle , (Smith) hmmm ok coach … Hey coach Rathman what play we call last time … ( Rathman ) , we ran it up the middle , (Smith ) i need a play coach , (Raye) .. Rathman say’s run it up the middle , (Smith) hmmm ok coach … Etc , etc, etc …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
by Edggy on Aug 18, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Hillarious my man
27 da. . .Shut up mango :P
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LOL
YEah, it wuudnt be zo bad if they ran ouTSIDE once n a whil!
by mr. instigator on Aug 18, 2010 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think people ntlikinghi play calling is not undrstanding his philosophy.
I formation ISO left, and we can’t execue it, why run 44 zig razor 567? If the simple plays aren’t executed to T, hen he is not gonna get into moreifficult stuff and it makes sense, you will enhance blunder oppurtunity.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
hah?
People didn’t like his play calling because it wasn’t very effective. I don’t know what else to say.
by mr. instigator on Aug 18, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
It was effective enough, we won games, we used Davis FINALLY, and Alex threw for 2000 plus
So if your offense can’t execute simple plays I am assuming you’d open up the playbook too? LOL
Black Sand Ninja!!!
And his playcalling wasn't all run all the time either
Despite the common mis-conception in the league.
The thing about a well-executed run play—nobody can stop it, even if they know it’s coming.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Bryant Young could.
RIP young, Pre-Ken Nortan JR., helmet-through-your-leg, don’t wanna watch the replay again Bryant Young
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions
This is good to hear, as opposed to last year when they told EVERYONE: We will run 80% of the time lol
“On how he will incorporate Westbrook:
Well if I tell you that then I might as well tell the whole league. We’ll determine that as we go.”
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 18, 2010 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Wrapped in Bacon? Because bacon makes everything better
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by Widowwolf on Aug 18, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Last year he told everyone he'd run 80% of the time
and passed for 80% of the time instead.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Time for the Niners to S[Site Decorum]T or get off the POT regarding Nate Davis!
I apologize for cursing in another thread regarding this same subject. I am just very frustrated with the way the Niners coaching staff has handled Davis. Either he can play or he cant play. Either he knows the play book or he doesn’t. Either run him out there and see what he can do with the first stringers, or cut him and open up a roster spot! It makes no sense to keep him at 3rd string with no opportunities to see if he is gonna cut it in the NFL or if he is just wasting a roster spot. I Really want him to have a shot at the 2nd string and maybe become a candidate for a starting position in the future. But the first step is to let him go against better competition and see what you got. They may find out that Davis is a natural QB with skills and abilities that only show up during live competition. Lets hope the Niners Coaches make an effort to see what they have in Davis, and stop burying him at the bottom of the roster.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 years and did nothing because of Moses (Favre).
This is Nate’s 2nd year, the beggining of it. It’s not like he has sat at 3rd stringer for the last 5 years. I believe that Davis brings more than Carr does and should be the backup to Smith. Smith gets this year to prove them all wrong. Carr is no long term answer. If Smith fails at having a good year, then Davis can callenge to be the starter next year. Raye may not be around for ever, but they do intend to promote from within, as it would keep the same Offense, so Davis wouldn’t have to learn another. If SMith gets injured, then bring in Davis…..
by ericalancanty on Aug 18, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
i say if Smith isn't doing well by game 9 or 10
then we switch to Davis without waiting for the end of the year. then hopefully we can have a better idea of whether or not we should pursue a QB in the first round of the 2011 draft.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
I would imagine they would probably give Carr a couple games first, if say we were in contention, to see if he can put the team on his back. If that doesn’t work out Davis just might happen.
davis?
I have very little faith that Davis could come in and start a game, But Dude is young, and i expect him to get better as the years go by. Preseason is just practice, Plus were going for the playoffs here. I hope Smith can do it, if not then Carr but idk if Davis is ready to win big games in Nov. Just sayen
by On the fifty on Aug 18, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope he's not
It was just like a…If they are in such bad shape that they aren’t condending for the playoffs. As in Smith is so bad he losses his job and Carr ends up not being an improvement either. I hope like hell this does not happen.
Wow
Just no. You don’t put a 2nd year guy from a small school into the fire like that. I’ve got no problem with Davis getting reps during a regular season game to see what he has, but if Alex is falling on his rear it’s gonna be Carr stepping in as a backup and then the team will look long and hard at a QB in the off-season.
Even if Davis has the potential to be a good QB he’s not ready to run the team right now
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
No QB is ready to run a team Day 1, there is always a process of learning and adjusting.
Davis looks to have better instincts than SMith, and that goes far.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
You get a guy who's got all instincts
and you have a Michael Vick.
You get a cerebral player who assimilates the nuances you have a Peyton Manning.
I know who I’d rather have.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Do you really think sitting in the pocket is all cerebral? There are instincts involved.
Pocket presence is majority instinct. Brady has better instincts than Manning and so does Brees and I’d take either of those two. Vick has running instincts, not QB instincts there is a HUGE difference.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
If it's all about instincts
why does it take time for college QBs to learn it in the NFL? If it’s instinct it should be natural.
Alex sits just fine in the pocket when he has one.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
When did I say it's all about instincts? Its both,and Davis appears to have better instincts than Smith.
Alex does not sit just fine in the pocket, there were several pockets last year that he wouldn’t step into. It takes time to learn systems and face the complexity of defenses at the next level. Are you really trying to say instincts plays no part in quarterbacking? I would hope not you would be WRONG.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
Anyone else feel like the coaching staff is listening to us?
I was really surprised by Rayes comments on Dixon when I heard this earlier. I completely thought they had the opposite thought process on him up to this point, and I still think they did until this last game. I’m happy he has proved so many people wrong like I knew he would. And then getting Davis early snaps too, that really surprised me. Happy to hear it though, player development is always good. On top of that Jones being cut, damn we are on a roll here. Lets see what else we can convince them of…
No, I don't think they are listening
However if you ever venture to a Florida Danny post he will tell you the 49ers have finally pulled their head out their * with statistical proof.
I don't actually think they are listening of course
I am merely just trying to say how it feels like our prayers are finally being answered around here some. I must admit I’m still a bit skyptical about Alex Smith, but I feel pretty good for once about everything that is happening.
not sure
Year 2 and he is suppose to challenge for starter. Let’s bring him along slowly. He should be ready for starter next year!
Santa Clara, You are the Father!
by chriscream on Aug 18, 2010 10:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
anyone else notice how Raye started this sentence?
I would expect as he builds toward the start of the championship season…
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
I think Raye missed it too...
guess subconsciously they all believe we’ve got a shot
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
Nate Davis
I think Raye sees what we’ve all seen thus far with Nate. He might not know the plays inside and out. He might be playing against inferior competition. He might wear gloves (but hey, Kurt Warner did too so…). But forget about all that when he drops back for a pass…because he will find an open man and get him the ball. Sure maybe it’s backyard-ish. I venture that he’s had to get real good at simply scanning and finding the open man because of his documented issues with learning the playbook. He’s probably developed those instincts over his entire career (meaning since he was a kid playing even) because he didn’t always know the plays. Maybe I’m wrong in that, but would it surprise you if I was right?
Now, I’m not saying this all means he’s OUR FUTURE and that these recent statements by Raye signify Davis is on the rise to the top of the roster. No. But he’s going to get a shot against better competition. If he continues to show the same skills there, he should continue to get chances to go against better competition (in preseason and practice at least). Then the conversation really has to turn to: Does he take over the backup spot?
That’s all he needs to aim for right now. Win that backup spot. That means you have a decent shot of seeing action in a regular season game, be it due to injury or ineffectiveness. Heck, McNabb got pulled a while back after a horrible first half. Even a quarter of play against starting NFL competition would be a good experience for the kid and show us even more about him.
Overall I’m on the fence about Davis. I know he was a 5th round pick and has as many negatives as positives (argue that however you like). But it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve all misjudged someone only later to find out that for no good reason they just turn out being pretty darn good. So why not start to find out?
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
Or maybe its just that everybody is open
And when they aren’t – Tulsa and Buffalo – he’s not so good anymore.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 5:05 AM PDT up reply actions
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Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
(cont'd)
ll see I guess
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
Davis
I’m certainly not on the bandwagon, but it’s good to know that he’ll see some meaningful snaps. I’ve said since last year that there’s absolutely no way people should be clamoring to get him out as our starter. He was a rookie and put up good performances against scrubs. You can say he was also surrounded by scrubs himself, but I’d bet money that our scrubs are better than almost everyone else’s scrubs.
If he can play against players who will make an NFL roster based on ability and not a lack of depth and succeed, then by all means, it’s time to give him an opportunity to show his stuff. That’s not to say he should start this year or next, but he should be given every opportunity to become the QB we all hope he can be. If that takes the team spending some money in the offseason to get him all the help we can to become even better, then they should absolutely do that. Come next year, he can begin to challenge for the 2nd string spot or even starting if he’s good enough.
As for how they should use him now, I think he should get some snaps against 1st team defense this week. This is the week where the starters will play a little longer, but still not extensively. Let Alex play a few series and then let Nate step in. As it is, we won’t have all our starters, so if he can make something happen against Minnesota’s starting defense, then we can all start the NDIOF chants. The following week, that’s when Alex needs to go out and shake off all the rust, so let him play that first half+, then check Nate in against 2nd team. At this point, there’s no need to let Carr have meaningful snaps. We know what we get from him, so he can sit around and watch.
Maybe, in the end, Nate will prove to be capable and worthy of being the #2, and we can trade off Carr for a late round pick and sign another veteran without a job to come in. Personally, I’d rather have a veteran who’s seen some success to help Nate along rather than Carr and Smith who’ve had to try to ressurrect a franchise and failed. The adversity hasn’t proved to be very helpful for either of them.
Prediction
If Davis gets lots of snaps, he’s your starter. Talent always rises to the top. The controversy isn’t about who has more talent between Davis and Smith, it’s about experience. On the talent side, it’s not even close.
This “playoffs or bust” attitude isn’t the right one for where the team is at the moment. I’d gladly sacrifice the playoffs if it gets the Niners to the NFC championship or better in a year or two.
We'll be there this year
and on Nate Davis. He doesn’t even have more talent. The tale of his career is he feasts on scrubs. But look what happened when he played good teams in Buffalo and Tulsa.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions
This "playoffs or bust" attitude isn’t the right one for where the team is at the moment. I’d gladly sacrifice the playoffs if it gets the Niners to the NFC championship or better in a year or two.
That’s the wrong attitude. Playoffs this year translates to experience needed to win in said playoffs.
by 9thevolution on Aug 20, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions
this
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
I have one foot on the Davis bandwagon and one foot off, but it's the same as the SMith bandwagon.
I’m all aboard the Niners wagon though. I honestly would like to see Davis earlier than Carr, and I would like to see our rookie RB get the start over RObinson, and I still think we need another RB, I wish could have taken Redman from Pittsburgh.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
Finally we get what we want
Dixon and Davis will make this a very exciting game. Up until now I was ALREADY sick of preseason. I cannot wait untill sunday NIGHT!
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
The real question is...
if Davis plays say, a little more than 1 quarter of the game…say from mid-1st to the half…what happens if he puts up 200 yards and a pair of TD’s? That would make things REALLY interesting.
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
Smith is the starter
If we start out 2-3 after the first five weeks, then the media starts flying off the handle about how Smith can’t do it. Playoffs or bust and if Davis looks like he can go out and win games, then I think Sing is eventually left with no choice but to put his faith in Davis to lead. It’ll really have to take a performance like Smith started 2007 with to get to that point though. I still think they’d go to Carr first.
Problem is when Carr steps in and it looks like O’ Sullivan is back under center, we have no choice but to cross our fingers and hope Davis can light it up.
by 9thevolution on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I was talking more about Davis taking over the #2 role at that point
but yeah, once he’s in that position…if Alex bombs and we’re at .500 (like 5-5) then I think #2 get’s in the game.
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
ok maybe more like
under .500
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter
Well Raye has said he hoped that Davis challenges for the #2
Maybe the talk earlier in the offseason about Davis not being ready and he should be further along was just to light a fire under him. Hell, Sing sent Davis to the locker room mid-game and dropped trou to get his guys to focus, so why not publicly say this guy should’ve already got it together to give him a little push.
Again, I’m reserving my judgement on Davis until he plays against some better competition, but if he does well in that regard, I have no problem with him taking the job this year if we struggle or competing for it next year despite how we look going into next season
by 9thevolution on Aug 19, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Smith's start in 2007 was fantastic.
It just didn’t last long
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Then we put Carr in early the next game and see what he does
and if Carr puts up similar numbers then we keep Davis at #3 because of the experience factor.
If Carr can’t put the same numbers up as Davis then I have no problem bumping Davis up to #2.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
that's what I mean
Smith got what, 3 series against Indy? Carr played against the 2nd team defense. If Davis plays well against the 2nd team defense too, it’s becoming even. Give them both some shots against 1st team perhaps and see what happens then.
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
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