Re-Welcome to Niners Nation
Now that football season is back in our life (for which we bow down in thanks every day of the week and twice on Sunday), the traffic here at Niners Nation is picking up. The traffic is picking up both in terms of visitors to the site and commenters on the various posts, which is obviously a good thing.
A good chunk of the increase in traffic is due to many folks returning from the offseason. However, we also get a lot of new visitors to the site. I've noticed a few folks that are new, some of whom introduce themselves as being new. Welcome to all of you. In the past I've tried to welcome people individually with a quick reply, but as the site grows and grows that becomes a bit more difficult.
As SB Nation has grown, more and more people have become aware of what the network offers. However, plenty of folks are only discovering SB Nation for the first time. For those folks, and as a reminder to new folks, I wanted to post some information and a couple useful links so you can really enjoy your time here at Niners Nation as we welcome another season of 49ers football. If you get a moment, here are some useful links of information from the site worth checking out.
If you have any questions about any of this (or anything else related to the site), post a comment or email me at ninersnation@gmail.com. The comment option is preferred because then if somebody else has the same question, my answer to yours will help others.
The two biggest areas that people need to know about are the site's general code of conduct, and the use of FanShots and FanPosts. As to the code of conduct, it's actually really simple with one important rule. The general idea is to be respectful of fellow commenters. We shouldn't have to explain this, but as often happens on the Internet, people feel the need to get in other people's faces (so to speak) and make disparaging remarks. It's unnecessary, but I'd imagine being able to hide behind the anonymity of the Internet makes it easier to do this.
A corollary to the respect rule is our one major rule: there is no swearing allowed outside of game threads and the live draft threads. Sometimes we'll make exceptions, but unless otherwise indicated, swearing is only allowed in game threads and the live threads during the draft. The reasoning is that for live events like that comments are instantaneous reactions in the heat of the moment. For any other thread, people can take a few minutes to think over what they want to say and re-word it without the swearing. I realize swearing is a part of many people's vocabulary. I just feel that the discussion can be at its best when people aren't swearing. Generally this includes using symbols to block out parts of words.
There is one exception to swearing in game threads. While you are allowed to swear, that does not mean you can cuss somebody out for something they said. It logically follows from the idea of respecting your fellow commenters. Even if you think that person is an idiot and has no idea what they're talking about, calling them a dumbass does nothing to further the conversation. Provide reasons backed by evidence for why you think they are wrong and move on. It's as simple as that.
FanPosts/FanShots/Comments
The second important area is the use of FanPosts, FanShots and comments. Check out this link to get a more thorough idea of each, but I'll give a basic rundown.
Comments: I don't think I need to explain how the comments work.
FanShots: The FanShot is used for short quick reference type posts. Links and YouTube videos are probably the two best examples of FanShots. If you check out our recent FanShots, all of these are good examples of FanShots. A lot of times, you'll see something you want to mention but you can't find a front page post or a FanPost that would be applicable. For those, the FanShot is your best bet. FanShots are especially beneficial for off-topic stuff.
FanPosts: The FanPosts are for broader discussions of topics. It can be a non-49ers topic, but if you do that I'd recommend prefacing your title with O/T (Off Topic). If you want to write about a topic that already has a FanPost on the main page, or is already being discussed in a front page post, there's a good chance your comments would be better suited as comments in an already existing post.
Some quick things to consider when writing a FanPost: There's a minimum number of words required for a FanPost, so if you have to add in filler words to meet the word minimum, your comments are probably better served as a FanShot or as a comment in an existing post. If there's a related FanPost or front page post already up within the last day or two, your post often is better suited as a FanShot or comment within an existing post.
At the same time, if you have a unique angle on it and you want to go into some depth about this angle, that could potentially work. For example, when the 49ers signed Brian Westbrook, we had several front page posts related to the signing that included the first mention of the signing, a post about his press conference, a post about how he'd work with Anthony Dixon, and a post about how this reflects well on the 49ers organization as far as the respect it gets around the league.
Generally you'd place comments about Westbrook in one of those posts. However, say you wanted to provide analysis about Brian Westbrook's injury history, or you wanted to look at his role in the Eagles offense last year, that could be worthy of a FanPost. Really all I ask is that you think about your post and how it fits in with other posts before publishing it.
Conclusion
I don't want people to feel constrained by too many rules at the site. At the same time, we need to have a little organization and structure so the site doesn't fall into chaos. If you ever have any questions, comments, or concerns about anything related to the site or anything about the SB Nation network, I have an open email policy. Feel free to email me at ninersnation@gmail.com.
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I'm new to Niners Nation
thanks for the welcome and the info.
Just thought I’d introduce myself. I’m from San Jose and I frequent Fear the Fin (I’m a bit more of a hockey fan than football, but I still love both, especially the Sharks and Niners), so I’m familiar with how things generally work on SBN.
From what i can tell you guys seem to run Niners Nation with the same level of dedication and passion as I see over there.
This site is quickly becoming one of my frequent stops throughout the day to get niner news and perspectives. You run a great blog, thanks for all the effort you all put into it here.
Proud member of the "Bring Back Semenov" Club
<3 Fear The Fin.
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OH AND DON'T FORGET TO OBEY ME BECAUSE I ROCK
Welcome new people! Welcome back other people returning!
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Such awful, awful images from [the name of this board has been deleted due to certain rules]
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Rules one and two.
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see the interview with the marketing/astroturfer from ZUFFA
on that bizzaro website? He admitted ZUFFA doesn’t bother with Sherdog but the other major sites they spam with astroturfers. Its why I can’t stand to read the comments over at BloodyElbow. I got banned from there 3 times because I can’t keep from calling a Noob a noob and a shill a shill.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I've given up on MMA
Constant paid shills on the comment boards. Apologies to any other MMA fans . . . but I find it to be an extremely dumb fan base these days . . . wasn’t at all the case a few years ago. The whole Sonnel thing where I felt a bunch of skin heads came out of the wood work to defend him and applaud his sale/promotion of the fight ended it for me. If a barrage of racial slurs and other offensive comments drive sales than I am out. Also, not impressed with the talent in the sport. The top tier (champions) are good, entertaining the rest I’ve found is a waste of time to watch, entertaining bar fights are still bar fights and never see these guys develop into anything better.
If the sport evolves into a sport
instead of a circus promotion that wants to monopolize the entertainment business. There will be more athletic talent. As it is right now half the fanbase things Muhammed Lawal sucks because he’s not in the UFC.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 21, 2010 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey I'm new to Niners Nation too
Some might recognize me from often lurking at McC. All I have to say is I’m glad to be a member of this site. I’ve been a big 9ers fan my whole life and I can tell that the writers here are dedicated and love the 49ers as much as I do. Thank you for welcoming me to the blog.
"If you got season tickets, YOU DA MAN!"
-Bruce Bochy
Thanks for posting this
I’ve been a fan of Ninersnation for years but didn’t register till last year and have only recently started leaving replies. I moved to Seattle about 5 years ago and check Ninersnation about 10 times a day to keep me sane from the rain and Shehawks fans. You guys are awesome! BTW, I will be very pissed if Ziggy doesn’t make the roster!
ditto
I’ve followed for awhile and check multiple times a day only to start commenting. I’ve been hesitant because most bloggers and sites are stupid and follow blindly to what ESPN and Madden video games tell them to. I love football and I hope the niners become a powerhouse for years to come. I’m in my mid-twenties but my football history is quite deep. This site has great leaders and comments have thought behind them. Get on the bandwagon, its gonna get crowded after 3-0
by mcwagner on Aug 20, 2010 4:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's right
its gonna get crowded after 3-0
"But, what he accomplished last year was great and very few individuals can pull that off..."
---Mike Singletary on Michael Crabtree
After 3-0
Living unfortunately close to “j -e-t-s” land, I can testify that the bandwagon effect will be real and a pain. What a great problem to have being 3-0 and having deal with johnny come latelys and the bandwagon. Personally I’m coming up on my 53rd anniversary as a Niner fanatic – my dad took me to a Seattle played exhibition game in early Sept 1957 – -fell in love with RC Owens, YA and the gang and have not looked back through thick and thin ( a lot of thin). This is THE YEAR of renewal….
New to Niner Nation
but i have been following for a couple of years but didn’t register till a couple of weeks ago. Anyways nice post
Welcome back to the stage of history.
Even with the swearing allowed in the game threads, its a refreshing change to return to the forums here for the battles – the content is considerably more ingenious and less vulgarity (unlike the AngryDome on an LSB thread, where it is nonstop). Perhaps that’s a measure of people given freedom, and therefore using but not abusing it… or perhaps its the quality of the fans that use this site. : D
Regardless – lets get this season started already. Glad to be back.
"Three man rush, and Young stumbles on the way back and fires up the middle - pass is caught by Owens! Owens made the catch!"
"HO-HI-HO-HUAHA!"
-Pat's and John's subsequent and intelligible reactions to The Catch II
vulgarity
Every site has its own measure of swearing, vulgarity, etc. It’s interesting going between even the SB Nation football sites. On some sites our rules go to far and on other sites they don’t go far enough.
by David Fucillo on Aug 20, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
hey
This site has been added to my already ridiculously long list of addictions. Thank you.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
~Abraham Lincoln
(SUPPORT ALEX SMITH)
by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Aug 20, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions
Drink, gamble, and hump also on the list
by mcwagner on Aug 20, 2010 5:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I know this has probably been addressed…
Is there going to be a NN iphone app or am I just missing it?
hmmm
Let me ask about that. I don’t have an iPhone so I had never thought to ask about that.
by David Fucillo on Aug 20, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Fooch I might have a buddy who could help with that.
Obviously, find out if SBN has any plans for that kind of thing first, but on an independent front I can ask around. Android, too.
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New as well
I got tired of some of the other sites I used to frequent. I like the writing here and people posting seem a lot more respectful. Keep up the great work.
Already did my intro last week.
I just wanted to say that since signing up a week ago, you guys have been really cool welcoming me into the fold. I hope I have been contributing well. It’s cool to see how Niners bring people together.
Special Request!!!!
Try to use some sort punctuation. Sometimes a person’s point can be rendered incomprehensible by a lack of basic punctuation, and to a slightly lesser extent spelling.
liek if u want 2 say something about how tight frank Gore is he will str8 reck some “fools” becase the other teams dont evan no waht is up am i right?/
"Son, I'm going to break you like a wild horse." - Mike Singletary
punctuation
I do strongly encourage at least passable grammar and punctuation. In regards to responses to people’s punctuation and grammar:
1. You can contribute as much as you want even with poor punctuation, grammar, spelling.
2. However, don’t be surprised if people mention it and ask you to improve.
3. If you call somebody out for punctuation, grammar, etc, make a quick point and then move on.
4. If somebody calls you out for grammar, feel free to ignore them or explain yourself, but please don’t yell at them and call them grammar nazi’s or whatever. Poorly written comments will reflect poorly on the writer and people are less likely to consider your opinion if they struggle to read it. At the same time, once the point has been made about a person’s grammar, it’s not necessary to beat it into the ground.
by David Fucillo on Aug 20, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m a huge fan of the em dash, myself.
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
As an editor, there is nothing more frustrating than someone who cannot use a comma correctly. It actually hurts my soul. I cry a tear of sorrow every time I correct an article (not on Niners Nation) filled with incorrect comma usage.
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t worry. Up in heaven, there is the punctuation god. He feels your pain. You can relish in perfectly good Literature with him some day. The grammar abusers, though. They will be forced to read Twilight over and over again—for eternity.
Did you throw the em dash in there just for me? Aw, shucks…
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
You like the ellipsis, too‽
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty upset that you didn’t comment on my usage of the interrobang!
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha! My apologies. I just thought that was a smudge on my screen. I will say many hail-hyphens tonight to pay for my sins.
One of my favorite punctuation marks! Only slightly less well known than the oft-forgotten en dash!
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You are busting out some obscure grammatical devices. If only my keyboard could create an en dash; if only…
Need I break out the tilde?
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The interrobang does look like a smudge
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 21, 2010 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you have a special keyboard or something?
As far as coach Singletary and the 49ers – Singletary, that dude is legit. He’s legit on all levels. He’s doing what he feels is right.
---Former 49er running back Glen Coffee
I’m a fan of the interrobang, but I will probably never ever use it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
So that's what the three periods is called...
Ellipsis…
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions

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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Technically
“The More You Know” should have an ellipsis at the end
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
No it shouldn't.
It’s a title, and is not subject to such grammatical rules!
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the title of a segment, is it not?
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess.
I mostly disagree with the sentiments that it’s a trademark more than anything. It’s at the end of a segment; closing title more than anything, in my opinion.
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by James Brady on Aug 20, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That ellipsis actually should have had four dots. You still need a full-stop.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The punctuation god is a spiteful and cruel god
Luckily he hates people that I also hate. HURRAY!
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 20, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
revel in perfectly good literature.
relish perfectly good literature.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Punctuation god?
I hope not. Nor a grammar or spelling god. At least the spelling god put a spell check inside a computer. The grammar god has never done a thing to help me out.
It’s because a lot of people just don’t know what a “clause” is. Most commonly, they think commas belong there to signal a spoken pause.
Although sometimes I see comma use that is simply beyond the pale.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking as an English major, grammar was never a point of instruction.
Speaking as a lover of the written language, good punctuation is a wonderful thing.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
There are reading and writing comprehension pre-reqs where I went, but you could totally test out of them before you ever got there. University English is the study of literature, not language. By the time you’re studying literature in college, your command of the language should be at least good enough to get by. And if it’s not, good luck with Faulkner.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
And I’m not saying that to be a jerk or anything. I do understand the importance of having a command of the language to study literature, and the necessity to provide supplemental instruction in the language as necessary to make the study of literature more worthwhile. But I am very passionate about the fact that my English degree is not a grammar degree. Few things bother me more than when 100 people use my degree as an excuse to defer to me for a question about style. I didn’t spend four years reading Ulysses or Paradise Lost or Invisible Man or 100 Years of Solitude or Moby Dick or any other of a few dozen different masterpieces just to get a degree that could be fulfilled by skimming the freaking AP Stylebook.
Sorry… I apologize for that. This particular topic tends to make me ranty. This has nothing to do with you.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
No worries.
I’m not offended. I’m not going to pretend that my Literature degree is a grammar degree either. It’s one class for one quarter out of the thirty other I take. I do think, however, that it is a good idea for people to have a grasp on the Language. Personally, I think everybody should have to take a grammar class to graduate from college, regardless of Major. Did I really need to take the class? (well technically I thought I did because at the time I was thinking about the Creative Writing emphasis) Not really. My grammar was fine. I do think, though, that as a student of the Language and its Literature it was helpful to really know the nuances. I’m not disagreeing with you. In fact, you are right. It is more important to understand what makes all the works above great Literature (and though I love Solitude, I would argue that it isn’t English Lit. since it was written in Spanish—semantics, I know…) rather than how the grammar in them operate. I just get all ranty because commas are easy. People shouldn’t be so stupid.
Interesting that you say that about Solitude because I believe Marquez actually said that he prefers the English translation! Just adding another layer to language question….
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t know he said that. I didn’t even know he knew English. If he did say that, though, I might have to reconsider my position.
I’m trying to find a reference for that. I remember learning it in class, but I’ll do my best to confirm it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah-ha!
It should be noted, as these several quotations from the book make plain, that Garcia Marquez is uncommonly well served by his translator. In “The Autumn of the Patriarch” as in “One Hundred Years of Solitude,” that is Gregory Rabassa. In “Basilisk’s Eggs,” his seminal essay on Garcia Marquez and “Solitude,” Alastair Reid writes: “the English translation . . . is something of a masterpiece, for it is almost matched to the tune of the Spanish, never lengthening or shortening sentences but following them measure for measure. Garcia Marquez insists that he prefers the English translation to the original, which is tantamount to saying they are interchangeable — the near-unattainable point of arrival for any translator.” The same is true of Rabassa’s translation of “The Autumn of the Patriarch,” a masterpiece of translation as well as of literature.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39273-2003May25.html
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
This is good information.
What I want to know after learning this, though, is why Marquez didn’t just translate it himself. I’m think like Beckett status.
You must love Cormac McCarthy
/sarcasm
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 21, 2010 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions
LMAO
werd.
There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
by return2greatness on Aug 20, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad 2 be back
Been away for awhile kept checking in from time to time seeing what was up but hardly ever posted. Best time of the year when football comes around. I’m ready to repeat as fantasy football champ and ready for niners to win the division :)
by 49ersAllTheWay on Aug 21, 2010 12:12 AM PDT reply actions
New
I’m also new but I’m not necessarily a big 49er’s fan yet. I have just recently (i.e. last season) starting following football (and hockey about two years ago) more closely and am trying to pick a favorite team. I currently live in San Francisco and have for a few years, but I’m originally from a mix of Chicago and New Jersey and have also spent some time living in Pittsburgh. I’m not really sure how to pick a favorite though; my favorite teams in basketball and baseball came from when I was much younger and all of my close friends (at the time) were big fans making the choices relatively easy. However, I don’t really know any big football fans. I’m hoping that following a few teams in football will help me pick one. So far I’ve only seen positive things from Niners Nation and look forward to hopefully a fun football season.
I'm semi new
And really appreciated Fooch’s individual welcome (a couple of months ago now). Again as a transplanted local – San Carlos – -to the east now (Connecticut) for many years, it is really fantastic to stay in touch with Niner doings in such a detailed and passionate way. Thanks to all who do Niners Nation.
GO Niners!!
new user, but was in stealth mode for over a year
Thanks Fooch. I have been a 49er fan since 1984. I have been reading this website since the Crabtree holdout days.
I enjoy reading the Ninjames everyday. I hope to post more as the season gets going. I work fulltime as a software engineer and a dad at night\weekends.
I hope they can give Nate Davis and Anthony Dixon a chance to shine this season.
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