Negative Nancy
by supraman on Aug 21, 2010 12:26 PM PDT
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Unlike the majority of NFL fans, I don't have the 49ers winning the NFC West. I've been swaying back and forth now throughout the offseason trying to play Ms. Chloe and I just don't see it anymore. Before the Heitmann injury, I thought the Niners had the best chance to win the West. The Heitmann injury weakens an already inexperienced offensive line. Come opening day, here's the ages of our linemen from left to right: 26, 23, 29, 24, 20. That makes for an average of 24 years and 4 or 5 months of age. Expecting a lot of penalties (especially with two referees in the backfield) and many missed assignments.
QB play is another doubt. Lets face it, Alex Smith doesn't have the makeup of a starting QB. With all the high passes, lackluster arm, and spotty decision making, he's only here to disappoint and polarize the fanbase. Depending on how Nate Davis does these upcoming weeks, as of now, I have no hope for any of our QBs.
Possibly overworking the players. I think this is hard to ignore. At the end of the Dennis Erickson Era, I remember Kevan Barlow (yes, The Great King Barlow, 1k as a backup!) complaining about how harder Nolan worked the guys during training camp. Since it has only become more strenuous. This could explain the lulls the Niners seem to can't get passed after the 1st quarter of the season. When other teams open the season they're adjusting to getting hit again and playing full length games. This year we have a tough opening schedule. I see 2 wins in the first 5 games; with losses to the Falcons, Eagles, and Saints. Just by following the Niner's tendencies the last few years, that may spell trouble for them. On a side note, with the players that have quit in the week(s) or so, I'm being to think Singletary is losing his voice in the locker room. Maybe the motivational speeches are getting a little old. Coffee going from Saban to Singletary, I can imagine why he'd want to become a minister. And well, Balmer just pretty much released himself.
Nate Clements, this year will prove why he's such a liability. Just about everything from coverage to tackling Nate Clements can't do it anymore. Though he is a smart player as of now he lacks the talent. I'd like to believe Baalke and I are on the same frequency, so I'm expecting Baalke to get rid of Nate after the season comes to another end in December.
Who's going to win the West this year?
The Seattle Seahawks. I can be a little more optimistic for Seattle because their QB has actually had success in the NFL. With Housh as #1 and Deon Butler at slot and Carlson playing TE, I believe they can do some damage with that receiving core. Forsett is going to show the NFL that he's a force to be reckoned with. They think they've really help themselves in the secondary by drafting Earl Thomas. Their heavy D-Line should be interesting, because I'm wondering where their pass rush is going to come from.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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1. Penalties
Our offensive was very disciplined last week, with only two penalties. As a team the 49ers had 8 penalties for 73 yards, but 36 of those yards came on a defensive pass interfence against Stoudamire and one a bogus hands to the face call on Bruce Davis
Our offensive line only had one two penalties the entire game—one false start on Anthony Davis and one holding on Alex Boone. The other offensive penalties were a false start by Byham, and an illegal substitution on Jurovich late in the game as we were getting into victory formation.
By contrast the Patriots last week in their first preseason game had 4 offensive penalties—three holding and one false start.
2. Missed Assignments
I expect them—but I also expect more positive plays. We had plenty of missed assignments last year without the good ones to make up for it.
3. Alex Smith
Alex Smith performed well enough last year to rank him solidly in the middle of the pack as far as starting QBs in the league are concerned, which completely negates your complaint. Will he ever be a star? Maybe, maybe not. Can he be at least average and at least competent? Sure. His completion percentage last year was better than McNabb’s and tied with Cutler and Palmer. His average yards per completion were better than Hasselbeck and 2/10ths of a yard behind Matt Ryan. He ranked ahead of Matt Ryan and Carson Palmer in yards per game and his QB rating was also better than Ryans and Hasselbeck’s.
He’s certainly capable of being a starting QB.
4. Overworking players
This is garbage. Last week half of the practices were without pads. Most of the veterans only do one practice per day due to vet courtesy. Accidents happen and are a part of the sport but Singletary’s camps certainly aren’t harder than anyone else’s, despite his reputation. Coffee quit to follow another passion. Balmer quit because he wasn’t being played. There’s not been a peep of discouragement from anyone else.
5. Nate Clements
First clements isn’t the entire team—his peformance will not determine the record for the 49ers. Secondly I’m willing to wager that (assuming he stays healthy) he’ll return to form and easily be a top 10 CB.
6. Seattle Seahawks winning?
This is a team that’s happy to have Balmer on their line to add depth. A team with as many problems on o-line as ours (without the offensive line coach that we have nor the two first round picks we spent on the offensive line). A team that doesn’t have a clear #1 RB, nor a top flight WR (even if they work something out for Jackson word is he’s going to face a suspension). They have a head coach who’s never succeeded in the NFL and a defense that’s laughable.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
by smileyman on Aug 21, 2010 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
6. Seattle Seahawks winning?
This is a team that’s happy to have Balmer on their line to add depth. A team with as many problems on o-line as ours (without the offensive line coach that we have nor the two first round picks we spent on the offensive line). A team that doesn’t have a clear #1 RB, nor a top flight WR (even if they work something out for Jackson word is he’s going to face a suspension). They have a head coach who’s never succeeded in the NFL and a defense that’s laughable.
6a. Balmer is a capable player. You said it yourself when you did all that research focusing on the DL/OLBs.
6b. Seattle fired Mike Solari last year
6c. Forsett is a player I’m high on. (Opinion)
6d. Singletary hasn’t succeeded as a Head Coach either.
First clements isn’t the entire team—his peformance will not determine the record for the 49ers. Secondly I’m willing to wager that (assuming he stays healthy) he’ll return to form and easily be a top 10 CB.
5a. What’s the wager?
4. (Opinion)
3.
Alex Smith
Alex Smith performed well enough last year to rank him solidly in the middle of the pack as far as starting QBs in the league are concerned, which completely negates your complaint. Will he ever be a star? Maybe, maybe not. Can he be at least average and at least competent? Sure. His completion percentage last year was better than McNabb’s and tied with Cutler and Palmer. His average yards per completion were better than Hasselbeck and 2/10ths of a yard behind Matt Ryan. He ranked ahead of Matt Ryan and Carson Palmer in yards per game and his QB rating was also better than Ryans and Hasselbeck’s.
3a. Last year Alex Smith faced the easiest schedule for a QB that played over 10 games I believe. Not record wise, but in terms of the defense’s passing rank.
Forgot to add in the Ahmad Brook’s injury takes away arguably our best pass rusher for who knows how long?
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB
Last year Alex Smith faced the easiest schedule for a QB that played over 10 games I believe. Not record wise, but in terms of the defense’s passing rank.
So then what is the appropriate adjustment to make? Does he really go from being “totally adequate” all the way to “not capable” because of an eyeballed defensive adjustment to his rankings?
DVOA does seem to rank him pretty poorly for last season, so your claim isn’t unfounded. It would just be nice to know that you’re basing it on something more substantial than “easy schedule”.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m confused? Never did I say Alex Smith was an adequate QB. — The stats were thrown out there to show explain to smileyman why Alex Smith had decent stats last year.
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB
No, my point was that smileyman pointed out that Smith’s stats were perfectly average last year – totally acceptable production from a starting NFL quarterback. Your response was “he played a weak schedule” without any kind of quantification on how that affected his numbers.
Maybe I phrased it poorly above, but you made absolutely no attempt to tell us how much salt we should take his 2009 stats with. You just said “it’s misleading” as though that proves that his totally average production last season was, in fact, a total mirage.
What would we have seen from him had he played a tougher schedule? How much would his numbers have changed – and why that amount? Your assertion is that he’s not a capable starting quarterback in the NFL, and your reasoning for that is that his 2009 stats are misleading. Well, that’s not really enough.
Your position is probably totally defensible, as I hinted at by mentioning DVOA. My problem is that you’re not actually defending it.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 21, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
No, my point was that smileyman pointed out that Smith’s stats were perfectly average last year – totally acceptable production from a starting NFL quarterback. Your response was "he played a weak schedule" without any kind of quantification on how that affected his numbers.
Maybe I phrased it poorly above, but you made absolutely no attempt to tell us how much salt we should take his 2009 stats with. You just said "it’s misleading" as though that proves that his totally average production last season was, in fact, a total mirage.
What would we have seen from him had he played a tougher schedule? How much would his numbers have changed – and why that amount? Your assertion is that he’s not a capable starting quarterback in the NFL, and your reasoning for that is that his 2009 stats are misleading. Well, that’s not really enough.
Your position is probably totally defensible, as I hinted at by mentioning DVOA. My problem is that you’re not actually defending it.
You can’t figure out where I’m going with the difficulty of schedule reference? Or are you just being agitating?
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB
All you’re saying is “his schedule was easy, so nyah.” That really doesn’t mean a lot to me.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm with supraman on this.
any moron can figure out that an easy schedule will inflate your stats.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
I’m not saying that the stupid stats weren’t inflated. I’m asking him to please freaking quantify how much. How hard is that?
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
don’t.make.howie.angry.
No crow for me thanks, Brandon Jones cut.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 22, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
IT’S A SIMPLE QUESTION!
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
u really think brooks is our best pass-rusher? no that’s smith.
are you putting the ranks by yards allowed? please those arent real ranks, just fake ones.
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
Smith by far is our best pass rusher :)
I purposefully inserted the word “arguably” because I know that there are some who would argue Brooks is our best pass rusher.
one argument being his production in such little time
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB
Smiley ...
Thanks. I was so pissed about Supraman’s faulty logic in both his analysis and selection of a NFC West winner that I was ready to unload on him. Then I read your response — couldn’t have said it better myself. Obviously neither Supraman or bayarearep94 have a clue — they just don’t get it. Again, thanks for telling them where it’s at!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Aug 21, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Pissed?
First of all, supra titled his rant a self-deprecating “Negative Nancy”.
Secondly, ‘food for thought’ as it were is a product of non- Group Think. Not such a bad thing even if most or all of his arguments are unsupported.
I didn’t agree with most of what he posted. But it was a reality check nonetheless and I’m glad he went to the trouble of posting it.
I'll take cheese on mine.
Clairfication ... nothin the author said , everything Smiley said ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
Overworking players
It generally sounds like this camp has been more low key than past camps. Obviously injuries have happened, but that’s life in the NFL. The most notable difference has been cutting back on the nutcracker. Maiocco talked about the camp a bit.
Seahawks
As far as the Seahawks winning the division, if they stay healthy they certainly have a shot. Health issues aside, I think their biggest question mark could be the running game. They’ve got guys who could potentially be decent running backs but it remains to be seen if that will be the case. If they try and make Julius Jones the feature back they’re in trouble. But if they stick with the Jones-Forsett-Washington rotation I suppose it could be ok.
by David Fucillo on Aug 21, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Fooch, a simple question ...
Is there a single unit (i.e., OL, WR, QB, RB, DL, LB, DB) of the Seahawks that you would trade across the board for the Niners’ same unit? Not me. Yes, they have some talented players but not a single unit that is really solid. You’re right, injuries will play a big role for them, particularly if some of their better players get hurt for any length of time.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Aug 21, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I forget the timeline but didn't he cut back because there were so many injuries.
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB
injuries
They cut back this year because of injuries last year.
by David Fucillo on Aug 21, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Numerous people have come out and said Sing's camp is soft compared to the league avg this year
Even Glen Coffee laughed out loud when Barrows said people were suggesting that camp might be too hard and that’s why he quit.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 21, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You are probably right, Supraman
You left out the strongest argument about how bad this year’s 49ers are on both sides of the line—-the way they were slaughtered by the Colts last week in Indianapolis. That’s a bad sign…..[yes, this is meant sarcastically]
i agree with a few of the things you said.
alex smith and nate clements are both liabilities, and the o-line will probably have some issues in pass protection. but i still believe the 49ers will win the NFC West this year, mostly because the rest of the division is that bad.
the seahawks had a terrible pass rush last year, and their leading sack-artist just retired. they will be starting a rookie at left tackle— a rookie who isn’t ryan clady. T.J. Housh is not a legit #1 WR, and i’m not scared of any RB on their roster. oh yeah, and they need help in the secondary, even with earl thomas.
i would be much more scared of the cardinals this year, because they will have a shot at a winning record if matt leinart works out decently.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
That is being a Negative Nancy
About the only question mark I agree with is Alex Smith. Yes, he does have to prove himself but every team enters the season within someone in a key position having to prove themselves.
I can’t believe you like Seattle. They have a serious shot of being the worst team in the NFL. Seattle appears to be making the same mistake with Hasselbeck as the Rams did holding onto Buldger for all those wasted years. If you read the Seattle blogs the fans are convinced there is a serious issue with Carroll and TJ, some even think TJ will get cut. Not to mention the duo wasn’t devastating last season, why be so worried? I think your biggest mistake is not knowing the talent in Seattle, namely who is their talent? The Rams roster might have more blue chip players. I hate Buffalo’s talent too, but they can at least trot out CJ Spiller to win a game, Seattle has nothing comparable. The Cardinals are the challenge to the 49ers in the NFC West.
I believe your wrong on almost every point.
1) The 2006 New York Jets selected 2 O-Linemen in the 1st round, they went to the playoffs that year.
2) Alex was an average QB last year, he’ll be average this year. No indications or situations say he’ll regress.
3) The Seahawks have very little in the way of good players. Hassleback is good when healthy, Forsett can be good, Tatupu is a solid MLB, Whosyourmama is good but old. Other the that, their roster is not good.
4) The Niners Defense is going to compete for the #1 Defense this year.
5) The notion that Sing is over-working the players is serious bull. Veterns get numerous practises off, and practise in shells frequently.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
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by Hoopers Judge on Aug 21, 2010 4:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I believe you're right on most points
First of all, Nancy, you are a brave little Nancy to go up against the deafening roar of the home crowd. I’m a homer too. And it was painful to hear what you said.
I do think the o-line is better than last year, even with Bass at center (will be even better when Heitman is back) but they are young and will make mistakes. And the first part of the schedule is going to cause problems and some panic in the front office if we lose those three games. Lord forbid, we blow a forth one along the way.
But the true issue here as I see it is:
Alex Smith throws high, can’t improvise, isn’t showing me anything in pre-season, and looked awful against the two worst defenses in the league in the last two games of the season when we were supposed to get him some “confidence.”
So he’s supposed to be hugely better than the last two regular season games he played? Why? Because he’s been watching tape and knows the playbook better?
I agree being in different offensive systems can hinder development. But with Alex, I think those last two games last year showed anyone willing to watch how awful he can be. I couldn’t believe those team’s second stringers were making him look bad in both first halves especially.
He’s not consistent and doesn’t have the burning fire to get pissed off at himself or the team when he needs to. Last week he said, "Well I felt as good as someone with a 7 passer rating could ever feel. Or something like that. You think a great QB thinks like that? How about, “I sucked, the team made mistakes, but I should have been able to overcome them. It’s on me. And next week, pre-season or not, we need to kick some F——— A—!”
Come on, guys, we need a QB to take us to the Big Show. No one here is saying he’s better than mediocre. Physically and mentally he’s not the guy.
Now I know this is radical, call me Nancy II, but the only hope of being a great team this year — not next year — is if by some (not so impossible) miracle Nate Davis is the real thing and takes over the team early in the season. Our Oline will mature each game. Our D is good. Clemens has a shot at being at least pretty good again. I like our safeties and love our linebackers. Good D-line. Got some pass rush. . . . And we have a lot of offensive weapons.
WHAT WE NEED IS A DELIVERY SYSTEM!!!!
Maybe we win the division because everyone else is worse than us. Although I think Arizona could be way better than you guys think because they have a great coach and a lot of experienced winners still on the team. But my point is: the division is just a stepping stone.
We need the guy who can take us to the top tier. Sorry to say, but IMHO Alex is not ever going to be that guy.
Thumbs down
"I sucked, the team made mistakes, but I should have been able to overcome them. It’s on me. And next week, pre-season or not, we need to kick some F——— A—!"
Sounds like a backup that has no confidence in himself to me.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 21, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
There's something you and little Nancy drew fail to realize ...
… is that these coaches , coordinator’s , line coach, qb coach rb coach, wr coach , special teams’s coach ,db coach , linebacker coach d line coach scout’s. trainer’s doctor’s and i wont even get into the front office people ….This is all they do, they live breath and eat football… 11 month’s of the year this is what they do .. they coach the best of the best and if their not the best they will find the best so for you to critique them if juz ( FUNNY ) …you have no clue what they see 11 month’s of the year 12 hour’s a day … juz sit back enjoy the game and whine to those whom have deaf ear’s … Alex is the starting Qb why , because he’s better then Nate and if he not then he won’t be …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
That last sentence.
Exactly.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 21, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
edggy- i like your style
i always enjoy reading your posts.
He will be
Even if he has another 3 for 9 for 37 yards outing tonite.
That said, he’d better be…well…better against favreking Minnesota or the Boo-Birds are going to swarm around him again a la Alfred Hitchcock.
I’m looking forward to seeing more Nate D. tonite myself.
Onward!
I'll take cheese on mine.
Negative Nancy?
More like Apocalyptic Annie or Suicidal Susan.
On a side note, with the players that have quit in the week(s) or so, I’m being to think Singletary is losing his voice in the locker room.
Well, God’s voice will always be stronger than Singletary’s in Glen Coffee’s mind. The kid didn’t quit because of a rough camp or Coach Sing picking on him, he quit because he doesn’t love the game. When Coffee first retired, I was upset and shocked and even ready to call him a cupcake, but after reading his interviews and explanations, it much deeper than simply quitting because football is hard.
Kentwaan Balmer is a borderline scrub, and he’s the only other 49er that’s quit on the team. Coffee had a reasonable explanation, Balmer’s just a bad player that was sulky because he couldn’t crack the lineup. Pete Carroll is going to fix that? Good luck. I don’t think the players are being over worked and I certainly don’t think they’ve given up on Singletary’s leadership. He hasn’t lost the locker room, it’s really premature claiming his voice is quieting.
I agree that QB play is a doubt. Am I 100% comfortable with Alex Smith starting at QB for the 49ers? No. Do I think he has the potential make-up to be a starter in the leauge? Yes. Does the 49ers season bank on Smith? Yes, for the most part. Alex Smith had an easy schedule last season, but it’s not like the 49ers are facing the toughest schedule in the league this year. Smith’s performance proved that he can take what a defense gives him, something starting QBs in the NFL have to be able to do.
As for Seattle, I’m not really impressed by the team’s receiving corps and Justin Forsett has a long way to go to prove he’s a feature back. I like John Carlson too, and I like the potential of Forsett in a complementary role, but I don’t think these two players are going to make Seattle’s offense dynamic enough to compete for a division crown. Seattle’s defense still has several question marks, but should be improved. I just don’t see Pete Carroll walking into the NFC West and taking a division title immediately, especially with his track record at the NFL level.
No crow for me thanks, Brandon Jones cut.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 22, 2010 12:08 AM PDT reply actions
Singletary
I agree with your comments on Balmer and Coffee.
In regards to the post, supraman made some strong points, but his comments about Singletary losing his voice makes absolutely no sense given the context of the players that left. Those are the kind of comments we see from national media and non-49er fans that don’t both paying attention to the context of the respective situations.
by David Fucillo on Aug 22, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe Supraman’s ultimate plan is have a follow up Fanpost entitled, “Positive Petey”. Otherwise, I don’t get the comments about Coffee and Balmer either. Deep down, I think many 49ers fans are biting their nails regarding Alex Smith and the OLine, so I agree that supraman definitely brought up some reasonable points.
No crow for me thanks, Brandon Jones cut.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 22, 2010 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Yah that was pretty good
I like the Apocalyptic Annie especially
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 22, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, God’s voice will always be stronger than Singletary’s in Glen Coffee’s mind. The kid didn’t quit because of a rough camp or Coach Sing picking on him, he quit because he doesn’t love the game. When Coffee first retired, I was upset and shocked and even ready to call him a cupcake, but after reading his interviews and explanations, it much deeper than simply quitting because football is hard.
He lost his passion for football while in he was in college. I’m just wondering if he could have went to a less demanding coach, would he have stayed in the NFL longer. Could there have been a coach out there to make football fun again? was there anyone who could have motivated him to continue playing football? When stepping into the HC role, Sing’s biggest asset (forulated by us fans) was his motivation. This was a thought theorized by me, not the national media or even local(sf) media. It’s just thoughts that popped into my head,
hence,
Just my thoughts, compiled into a minddump, on your screen
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB
Coffee leaving was a blessing in disguise....
because now the Niners have a better, proven, PRO BOWL running back in his place to back-up Gore
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 22, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure about that...
I do agree that Brian Westbrook was a great player. (hint: WAS…) however, his seasons for the past few years have been plagued with an assortment of different injuries that have sidelined him for long stretches of time. And even when he did try to come back early, he didn’t have the ability to overcome them to a degree that he was really effective. Admirable, but a liability to the team as a whole. If anything,. I think this pre-season has cemented Anthony Dixon as Gore’s back-up. To be honest, I think in reality Coffee’s departure only gives Micheal Robinson a shot at staying.
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by DarkkStarr1 on Aug 23, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Then you're thinking wrong
Westbrook will be the backup because he won’t make any big mistakes and he still has a ton of offensive talent.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 23, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s an interesting thought, and we’ll never know what could’ve been had Coffee gone to a team with a different coach. By the way, I’ve got no problems with you expressing your thoughts. Doesn’t matter what you’re posting, I have an interest in reading it, because you have a different take on things around here.
No crow for me thanks, Brandon Jones cut.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 22, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know...
Football coaches are usually tough bosses. Singletary was miked up on the sidelines in Sunday’s game. What I heard was certainly a little in-you-face and demanding, but not even remotely comparable to a chat with a USMC drill instructor during basic. After going through a college football program, I doubt that Singletary did anything Coffee hadn’t seen before.
That’s what supraman’s point was I think, not that Singletary is a drill instructor, but that Coffee went from one motivational coach to another and it was something Coffee was used to. What supraman implied (if I interpreted it correct) is that maybe Coffee’s passion would’ve been restored had he gone to a team with a different type of coach than something he’s already seen.
No crow for me thanks, Brandon Jones cut.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 23, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Seattle
watched their ps game last night….meh.
hass looks good, and the passing game isn’t horrible.
but their running game…not scary at all. i don’t get their trio…fors, jones, and wash- they’re all so similar. i agree that forsett’s got some skilz and can be a good back in this league- but with his size, they really need a guy to pound the rock in SEA. With forsett and hass being their offensive stars…against this niner defense….brother please!
Seattle
watched their ps game last night….meh.
hass looks good, and the passing game isn’t horrible.
but their running game…not scary at all. i don’t get their trio…fors, jones, and wash- they’re all so similar. i agree that forsett’s got some skilz and can be a good back in this league- but with his size, they really need a guy to pound the rock in SEA. With forsett and hass being their offensive stars…against this niner defense….brother please!
Obviously no one is noticing that I have the 49ers beating the Seahawks.
This year we have a tough opening schedule. I see 2 wins in the first 5 games; with losses to the Falcons, Eagles, and Saints.
Our first game is against the Seahawks.
1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB
Meanwhile
How long is Okung out for?High ankle sprains are a beatch for big dudes like him.
I'll take cheese on mine.
Yah that is a HUUUUUGGGEEE issue for Seattle
Please let it be at least 4 weeks
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 22, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
There is an article on Yahoo about it (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmC2eVBpy8B_6v2qkpyFiLxDubYF?slug=ap-seahawks-okung)
“For a point of reference at the same position, Seattle was without fill-in left tackle Sean Locklear for six games last season because of a high ankle sprain. Locklear is now starting on the right side but could be headed back to left tackle with Okung’s injury.”
So he could actually be out the first couple of games this year
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 22, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Only the Rams are a pushover team in this division anymore. Carrol appears to have some offensive genious, appears that is.
They are getting pass rush from one end on the field and their DT’s are stout. They killed us with Forsett last year and they now have another RB who may be more dangerous off of screen passes. I’m can’t be definitely sure, but I wouldn’ crown SF yet. Our ofense avgs 20 plus points per and we will win more than the division. If Jackson goes to Seattle we will have huge issues, HUGE wr’s out there with WIlliams who by the way doesn’t look bad.
Black Sand Ninja!!!
I think Tate will be their best receiver soon
He was creating havoc as the game went on
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 22, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Think'n negative Nancy is on (edge ) after yesterday ...
… O ’ boy coach Sing rip’d him a new pooper ( Nate ) …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
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