Niners Nation Podcast: The Beginning!
Why hello there, Niners Nation. For about two years now, I've forced you to read my words. I'm not sure how long smileyman has been here, but he as well has done some forcing of his own. Now you get to hear us. This is our first attempt at a Niners Nation podcast. It's something that we're hoping to do about twice a week, with occasional live episodes with reader participation and the like. It's the NN Podcast with J & J, that's: John and James. Some quick notes..
Future iterations will be recorded with much better quality, this first one we actually had issues where he didn't record correctly and then my program crashed, so we had to go re-record a couple things and cut and paste them into it. The sound quality isn't that great, I'm quiet most of the way through and you can hear smileyman breathing, but this is the first of what we hope to be many, many iterations. Next time we're actually recording in such a way as to block all feedback except for a bit of air noise. So stay tuned. Make the jump for more
Covered in today's podcast...
-Introduction
-A look at players who impressed us against the Colts
-A look at the large number of linebackers currently on the roster and the position battles concerning them
-A look ahead at the storylines for the Vikings game tonight
-Closing
That being said, do take into account the issues above and that this is our first - but we are looking for as much feedback as possible, here! Next week we're looking to have Tre9er on, and in future iterations, be them live or recorded, we want to work heavily on user-questions and suggestions, with people calling in and emailing us opinions and the like. We want this to be something that you have to listen to every week. So please provide any suggestions and things of that nature. Do you like the length? Should the file be broken up into segments? Are you interested in being on? Are you awesome and want to provide some theme music? Let us know!
If the embedded player doesn't work, you can find the direct link here. And if neither of those work, I've got one more link for you here. If none of them work, you probably suck. :]
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Jimmy James
can barely hear you…BTW, is your username supposed to be pronounced “Nine-James”? I always thought it was “Nihn-James” kinda like Ninja but Ninjames…
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He pronounced it wrong.
First time through we recorded it I corrected him. Then we had a program error and had to re-record.
As far as the volume, it’s because we went with his recording. Next time we do it, all parties involved will be recording it on their end, and then they’ll be sending the files to me and I’ll be syncing them up. So really good quality, providing I can sync them correctly.
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
also
anyone successfully install the plugin for Firefox to listen to this here on NN in the embed above? Mine came up “no plugins found”…what’s the plugin and link?
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It should just be Quicktime, and it's not a plugin at all, it's just, you know, having it installed.
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, wife's laptop mustn't have quicktime on it
it says missing plugin
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have the smae problem
says no plugin found
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
go to the second link...at least I did
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I know you probably are making some joke that's flying over my head
But you are aware that your first direct link goes to a screen shot of this page playing the podcast, right?
Fixed that.
I’m silly at 4 a.m.
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
you gotta start sleeping fool!
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I wish
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
bout to shove my earphones in on the mp3 player and finish this
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Listening to this again.
I hate that the quality is low, but I think the content was good. We had good talks about stiff arms and rathman, and some of the players, etc. Quality will definitely be improved upon, folks. Since each file will be recorded and synced up, it should be professional quality for cheap.
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I’ll definitely be listening to this later. Hopefully I’ll have something useful to say.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
We need to get you on
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m down. I’m starting school this week, so I still don’t know how crazy my schedule is about to get, but once I get into a rhythm I’ll work something out.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
good luck in high school
are you a senior yet?
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I only have one trip as a senior left in me, and that’s going to be in about 40 years or so.
I’m starting grad school, yo.
"I just struck out looking three times, but in any other ballpark those would have been home runs." - Aubrey Huff
by howtheyscored on Aug 22, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
i'm foolin with ya bro
nice, good on ya.
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Impressed guys.
This is pretty cool—especially in its first time version. As the quality improves and you guys get used to doing this, I can see this getting better and better. Awesome job.
this is good
I’m always looking for podcasts of 49ers talk. Keep it up, you guys did a good job…sound quality was eh, but you guys talked about things all us 49ers want to talk about. If anything, maybe add some music for an intro and end of show?
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Aug 22, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions
Did you want to make us some music we can legally use? :]
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I can sing you a sweet little jingle intro
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it would be hilarious
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oh...right.
well, I play the yukalaylee.
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by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Aug 22, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
good stuff
about halfway through it so far. have some things in mind to improve that I’ll talk to you about James.
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just finished
good stuff. knowing as much as we know about the team i don’t think you guys said anything questionable (except I might disagree on Dixon’s role if Gore went down…but that’s contingent upon him continuing to show that he can handle pass protection and being smart with the football, etc.). That’s speculation though.
So good job guys, nice to hear your voices and can’t wait to get in on the action.
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James sounds like one of those guys from hostage movies that makes demands through a distorted phone.
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
his voice + recording quality being poor
but yeah, I was thinking:
“It puts the lotion in the basket…”
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by Tre9er on Aug 22, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
name the movie and character!
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ding ding ding!
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by Tre9er on Aug 22, 2010 1:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
a new carrrrrr
dddd table
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it stops making comments about bans!
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When...
Are you guys have it up on Itunes so i can download on to my Itouch and walk around listening to some Niner talk
You can't just transfer .mp3 files?
Because by right clicking that direct link and picking “Save File As” or “Save Target File”, it will download to your computer and be able to transfer.
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Think'n some Infectous Grooves or Meat puppet's would be kewl theme music : ) ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
by Edggy on Aug 22, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Meat Puppets.
Old school right there, you get some props from me. Rec’d.
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice start
Congrats on starting this up for NN. But I’m thinking there’s no way it could be as good for us as it was for you.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Congrats to you guys..James what barrel were you speaking in?
It sounded like Nin was talking from a barrel. Otherwise quite nice. Smiley you do a good job leading the discussion.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Aug 22, 2010 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
That's because we used my recording
Used Audacity to record the program. I was speaking into a mic and Ninjames was coming through on the speakers which is what caused that effect. Next time we’ll both be recording and the two samples will be synced so it’s a mic source for both of us.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I wouldn't suggest recording off the speakers.
You may want to consider some kind of app that records directly from Skype so you can get both your mic and your incoming sound recorded at once. Something like: Skype Call Recorder (lifehacker link) which is free. Then cut with Audacity later.
Either that or check and see if your sound card supports recording straight from your stereo out without requiring you to connect your headphone jack to your microphone jack. Then if you select Stereo Mix as the input source in Audacity I think you can get it to record both your mic and Ninjames’ end of the call. Although I’m just going based off what I’m reading. I haven’t actually done it.
Might save you some work with syncing two sound feeds and resyncing if they get out of sync due to other unforeseen technical difficulties.
Yeah there are some aps that do that
we didn’t have the technical side of things down this time around. Next time I think we’ll probably do a 10-15 min recording and make sure the sound is ok before we do the real thing.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
It was just a matter of being unprepared
Which is easily my fault, haha. We’ll have it next time, guys! You’ll get a little bit of air, I’m sure, but vocally, we should be good.
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
As an avid podcast listener
This was actually quite good minus the production. You two interacted with each other quite well and I definitely felt like there was a benefit to having a conversation between two members. It wasn’t something where I felt like I could’ve had the same benefit from just reading, which is a trap a lot of podcasts that start from communities fall into.
User questions and suggested topics would definitely be nice. One thing this podcast has that a lot of others don’t is a strong potential for a lot of post-show interaction after the show due to the built-in community that already exists.
Using the podcast thread as a place to put show notes is fairly common so I’d actually like to see a more comprehensive summary of the show. If you post the actual questions you ask each other during the show in the thread, then the comments can pick up the discussion where the show left off. Having segments split into files would be useful, but isn’t really a big deal. I think you could probably get away with putting time stamps for each segment so people can skip ahead to a specific segment if they want to.
Also depending on the timing of the episodes during the week, you can do many things with minigames/prediction contests. Over/under, guess the score, etc. Listeners can then participate. Problem is that the discussion community is already in place rather than the normal pattern of building a community around a podcast/radio show, so it’s difficult to justify merging things like contests that may have had their own threads before into the podcast unless they’re small and we want to draw some attention to them.
During the show you alluded to using twitter to take questions live, and I think that might even be unnecessary. SB Nation threads work well for commenting on live sporting events as they happen, and I think you can do the same thing for a live podcast recording. You can take questions in these threads and respond on the air and members don’t have to sign up for a new account on twitter (assuming they don’t have one already). You guys just have to be diligent about paying attention to the thread while you’re recording (which isn’t easy). It’s not quite the same as a live chat like you’d see on some shows, but it’s fairly close and it’s already built in.
The live twitter thing
was more along the lines of doing a live show with twitter responses. Not necessarily doing a live show during an actual game.
You have some very good points and comments.
Regarding the length—is an hour fine or should we do 2 of 30 min each?
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I didn't mean do the show during an actual game.
I meant that our thread/commenting system on SB Nation works for live games, so it can work for a live anything. Including a live podcast. Real-time commenting and feedback. Instead of a game thread, it’s the live podcast thread. Basically I’m just saying use Niners Nation threads to interact live with listeners instead of twitter. The podcasts I listen to benefit a lot from instant feedback through a live chat.
Imagine you’re trying to use a specific play from a game a few years ago as an example but you can’t remember who made it. Someone listening live can answer your question in the thread and you can see it and you don’t have to wait until after the show to look it up and correct yourself. Or you could be having an argument and someone in the thread brings up an interesting point and it completely changes your discussion. It doesn’t have to be limited to question and answer. Like a radio show but everyone gets to “call in” when they want to.
An hour is fine. Most shows tend to stick with that. From a listener standpoint, I personally find 30 minute shows a little short, especially if I enjoy the topics being discussed. I think 30 minutes works well for daily podcasts, especially news ones, but I don’t think you guys want to go that route.
Two 30 minute shows would be okay but then you have to consider that you have a bunch of setup time and you need to solicit questions and topics for every show and set aside time for two different editing sessions. The amount of work isn’t always proportional. Whether doing all that work twice a week for two shows with half the content each is the same amount of work or more is up to you guys to decide.
Although if you can come up with a natural topical divide for the two shows, it wouldn’t be a bad idea. Like one to focus on the previous game recorded on Monday or Tuesday and one to focus on the next game on Saturday or Sunday. Although personally I think you’d probably end up dragging it out to 45 minutes each if you split it that way and get really in depth. Which is good in my opinion.
What you need is....
A studio mic, you can find one at a resonable price. A condenser mic is ideal as you can have it 5 feet away and it will pick you up crystal clear. This is the type of mic that they use in recording studios and live broadcasting (ESPN). You can find them cheap, around $50 bucks at Musiciansfriend.com
Here is a cheap but nice condenser mic, these usualy start at around $100 for a decent one. i use them when I record vocals in a studio, but you will find the quality amazing for just talking into.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/MXL-990-Condenser-Microphone-with-Shock-Mount?sku=273156
Since the Mic requires Phantom power to power it up, you need a mixer that supplies phantom power. this is one of the cheapest and has the right type of plug in (3 prong) at both ends. Phantom power can not work with a 1/4 in jack at the other end, both sides must be 3 prong.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-EURORACK-UB802-Mixer?sku=631238
You will need a stand, a desk stand would be cheapest and a cord, not too much money. All in all you will be out about $130-$150 dollars but the quality will be there and the equipment will last a long time. The Mic should have a foam cover on it to reduce the breathing noise and filter out the other sounds that you don’t want.
A little music in the back ground will go a long ways. After editing all the audio, just lay down a few tracks of music and keep the music volume low. It makes it more entertaining for us and provides a better show.
Problem with the music is finding something we can use legally
we can’t just take a snippet of music and put it in if we don’t have permission from the copy-right holders.
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Thanks for the suggestions.
I already have a new mic on the way! The main downfall was the fact that it was a straight up recording using feedback in the speakers. Next time it won’t be that way. :]
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Really good "pilot" guys
Just a technical issue with the sound, but nothing that can’t be easily taken care of I’m sure. As far as content, doing a regular question/answer segment from tweets or just over the threads here would work. Damon Bruce on KNBR 1050 already does a segment like that on his show. There could be a post put up at the beginning of the week with content suggestions and choose the ones that are the best by a certain point during the week. You can have whoever made the suggestion make a guest appearance if they want and be involved in that particular segment.
As far as show length, I’d be more for doing 2 of 30, but that’s just me.
With theme music, If you could find someone to put together something original for you that would be cool. But if you used some popular recording that would work too. Someone known for long intros like Metallica.
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no really
I can sing a catchy intro with some dope beats from my kids’ $10 electronic drum machine…it’ll be pimp!
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That or
I’m sure one of them would be willing to be your human beat box!
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by Mangoman on Aug 22, 2010 4:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
oh I do that too...I can just sync up a few layers
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Not allowed to use any licensed music.
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by James Brady on Aug 22, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a chance to listen about a quarter of the way through this earlier today, and will likely get back to the rest of it after the game. Every trial run has its hiccups guys, so don’t get discouraged about technical difficulties (although I’m sure you guys aren’t). What’s important is you guys keep performing at high levels, which shouldn’t be a problem.
No crow for me thanks, Brandon Jones cut.
by Andrew Davidson on Aug 22, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
Glad folks enjoyed the content!
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