49ers Offensive Line Battle: Alex Boone versus Barry Sims
One of our many discussion points heading into the past two preseason games has been the play of the offensive line in general, and Alex Boone's battle for a roster spot in particular. One useful way of assessing the battle to date would be looking at Matt Maiocco's always useful player-by-player recaps. He takes a look at every player and provides a rundown of playing time and a few quick thoughts on each player.
At this point, it would seem like Barry Sims and Alex Boone would be battling for a roster spot. Obviously both could make the roster at the expense of a third player, but given the swing-man type of role involved, they are a good comparison.
@ Indy
Boone: "Entered at beginning of second half at left tackle and played the rest of the way, 31 snaps. He was called for a holding penalty, but his feet looked much better than last summer. He did a very good job in the second half of handling defensive end Ervin Baldwin one-on-one."
Sims: "Did not play, coaches decision."
vs Minnesota
Boone: "Entered at beginning of second half at left tackle and played 12 snaps. Then, he moved to right tackle, where he played the final 23 snaps. Surrendered a sack on his first snap, as Brian Robison blew past him to drop Davis for an 11-yard loss. After that first play, he turned it around and held his own."
Sims: "Entered at left tackle in the fourth quarter and played 23 snaps. Did not allow any pressures."
Based strictly on playing time, Boone is obviously getting a bit more time overall, and in particular at the always important left tackle position (as well as some RT time). However, given that this is the preseason, and comparing Boone with Sims, I'd imagine the team has to believe they already know what Sims brings to the table. Boone is getting a lot more action this year now that he's gotten in shape and improved his mechanics.
The question at this point, at least in my mind, is whether Boone is making the necessary strides to potentially supplant Barry Sims? At this point, with Heitmann on the shelf with his broken leg, it's going to be tough to keep both Sims and Boone. I suppose you could factor Tony Wragge and Adam Snyder into this equation, but I suppose that will depend on how flexible the 49ers feel they can be with their offensive line depth. Snyder can play guard and tackle. Wragge can play guard and center. Boone and Sims can primarily play both tackle positions, but not guard or center.
Given Heitmann's injury, does the team feel it has to keep Wragge for now as a backup center? In that case, since Wragge can swing over to guard, does the team cut Snyder loose in order to keep both Sims and Boone? Choices, choices.
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Wragge has to stay for now
he’s the only backup center for game day (who’s been backup C before, the better of the options). They have to keep 9 for now.
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
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Snyder
I need to watch him more to see if he’s improved since last year. That he can “play” guard is a plus, but is it just that he knows the position or can he actually hold his own in there? I don’t want a guy who “knows” Guard and Tackle but can’t play either worth a lick (which has been Snyder’s M.O. thus far). Wragge has been seeing time at Guard too…why not keep Sims, Wragge and Boone?
The other question is why isn’t Boone getting any Guard reps or is it that they don’t want to put too much on his plate, rather let him focus on being the best Tackle he can be for now?
Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
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Boone
Maybe I have let emotion judge Boone instead of how he really plays. I want this guy on our team, he is talented and has shown a ton of heart. The problem is that he is still unproven. Snyder is being judged by emotion too but on a different swing from Boone. I still think that he is better as he has the experience, but Boone will surpass him if we can keep him.
Smash-mouth football...
needs depth at offensive line and RB, and we finally have that. I think we need to march into the season with a ton of linemen and less WRs. So we have 5 receivers instead of the sixth that would never get action and bring in a lineman who would.
5 WR's is all but certain
however the DB’s might also take a hit…4 CB’s, 4 Safeties is a distinct possibility. I see a lot of LB’s on the team
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Crabtree, Morgan, Williams, Zeigler, Ginn
Clements, Spencer, James, Paymah?
Goldson, Lewis, Smith, Mays
Does seem a bit strung out but we have too many good LBs and we need line depth. Im cool with that
Thats easy to do.
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by rlott#42 on Aug 24, 2010 9:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Clements Spencer Brown Paymah (Adams)
5th CB will be the option
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Crabtree, Morgan, Ginn, Zeigler, Williams
Clements, Spencer, Brown, Paymah, Adams
Goldson, Lewis, Smith, Mays, Taylor
It will be nice when Mays is a year older and better and
Lewis and his 5M isn’t on there anymore.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Lewis and Clements plus a future 6th
For Nnamdi
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 26, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Why can't Boone be backup at RG?
Is he too slow? Wouldn’t seem that way.
Is he too tall? maybe? but see Gallerey
Is he too good as a T?
If we already have both starting T positions covered for years to come, it seems to make sense to turn Boone into the new and improved Adam Snyder. Any thoughts?
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
mostly no need to move him there
until we’ve found out he was a failure at T
by foosball4949 on Aug 24, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
that's what I was asking elsewhere
unless the plan is to see just how good of a LT he can be for either a stellar swing tackle backup or trade value. Staley is signed thru the rest of his career (seriously) and isn’t old at all, Davis is only 20…I mean, Boone would be a nice insurance policy if Davis doesn’t pan out but after that…
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I think there's a decent chance that Davis doesn't pan out
he was a boom-bust pick
by foosball4949 on Aug 24, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll say there's a chance he doesn't pan out
but I’m not assigning any percentages to it yet
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The kid's already looked much better from week 1 to week 2
and you’re getting ready to write him off?
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Even I will give credit where its due
Though I’m more worried about a Haynesworthesque off-season workout regimen
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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Haynesworth actually lost a ton of weight in the off-season
something like 30lbs—the dude looked good. The reason he failed the conditioning test is because Shanahan made it almost impossible for a man that size to pass it.
The rumor is that Haynesworth was trying to lose the weight so he’d be too small to play NT
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I was apt to believe that too...
Then after Suh held out on his contract they gave him the same standards and he made it with like 3 seconds to spare on each one…
Then again Suh is a freak with HoF potential… So its not just some schlub.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 26, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Suh had a different coach
with a different conditioning drill.
Each team runs a different one. Here’s what Shanahan wanted Haynesworth to do. The test consisted of two 300 yard shuttle drills, 25 yards each shuttle (so six shuttles). First test has to be done in 70 seconds, then a 3 1/2 min rest and then 73 seconds for the next one.
For a big man it’s not necessarily the running that’s the problem but the stopping and starting and bending.
The other thing about this test—it’s not required for everybody on the team, just those that missed 50% or more of the off-season workouts. Basically it was a test designed to humiliate Haynesworth and it worked.
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Staley is sign'd threw the turn of the century ....
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Snyder
I understand Snyder’s capabilities and experience. The experience in particular can’t be denied. But MY experience is the guy hasn’t played up to expectations. And I would let him go. I am definitely not worried about Davis after what I saw last week. He’s improving quickly. I’m more worried about Rachel, actually.
Wragge should be there as a back up guard and center (he’s been good over many years for us as a back up) as well as Bass as a back up when Heitman comes back, and Boone and Simms at LT and RT tackle.
The 9: Staley, Iupati, Hietman, Rachel, Davis — Bass, Wragge, Boone, Simms. . . .Hopefully Rachel gets it together. He’s up and down. Otherwise, RG could become our weakest link. Could Bass play RG if he had to? I wonder. When healthy he is a good player. Not great. But would he better than Rachel at his opposite guard spot?
Baas would definitely get a shot to play RG if Rachal struggles mightily
but I also think Wragge and Boone could try their hand there as well. I like that lineup actually. Keeps the best Tackle backup, the best upside Tackle, and two guys who can backup C or G
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Yeah
Let’s give Boone a shot there when Rachal struggles.
by mr. instigator on Aug 24, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Life is good
I love being able to talk about getting rid of guys who are of good quality. Can you have too many good linemen? Don’t look now but in a couple years the Niners will be loaded (hasn’t happened since ’94)
I think on our team we could get away with having Boone there
Alex is 6’5" so he can see over the line. A shorter QB you probably wouldn’t want a guy that’s 6’8" as your guard.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah dude is freakin huge
almost too tall
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I think the reason they are playing Boone a little more right now, is because they know what Sims brings to the team. He was solid last season when taking over at LT, so I’m pretty sure he’s a lock to have a roster spot.
Boone is improving, but over the next two games, he’ll have to match the level of play of Sims to stay on the team. At that point, I think they let go of Snyder if they feel Boone is too valuable to give up. The injury to Heitman keeps Wragge on the team, unless the team feels that Heitman will only be out a game or two of the regular season… then they may take a chance praying that Baas doesn’t get hurt until Heitman comes back.
Boone brings the most upside of any of the backups
and more than Rachel IMO. We don’t let him go after he’s turned his life around. He won’t be on the waiver wire for 10 minutes before he’s fielding offers to go be somebody else’s groomed tackle of the future.
I like the idea of letting him compete with Rachel though.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Rachal a lot
Rachal needs to carry over what he learned from the end of alst season to this but I think he can be a very good guard in the league
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Sims IMO needs to stick around
He still appears to have the better skills plus he adds the benefit of being like a mentor to the younger guys. Having him around for one last year I think is going to prove to be pretty valuable to the OL as a whole. If Boone is kept on the PS to learn one more year and step in if and when needed, he will be more than ready next year.
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I agree
I don’t get the crowd pushing for Boone over Sims. I’m fine with keeping both of them but no way would I want an untested Boone at LT if Staley goes down again.
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Sims was a great stopgap last season
Unless he is battling some injury, they should have great confidence in him at LT#2
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Snyder goes even if we have to switch Boone or Sims to take his position
Boone has very high upside and it looks that in 3 or 4 years he might fulfill it. Even if we have a pro bowl tackle (that would be amazing), and a pro bowl guard it never hurts to have a guy that can play tackle collecting, at most, a starting guards paycheck.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions
this
Snyder is getting reps at center though. If this continues we’ll monitor it and it COULD spell doom for Tony Wragge.
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Well interior linemen are getting more bucks
Jahri Evans 7 years $56 million.
nick mangold 7 years $55 million
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We can't PS Boone
There’s no way some team that needs OL help doesn’t claim him.
by Andrew9erfan on Aug 25, 2010 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Wragge knows center, but Snyder taking center snaps in practice now.
Matbe they train Snyder for the next 2 weeks and use him as a backup center for the first 2 weeks. Wragge probably would clear waivers and if Baas gets hurt in a game, Snyder finishes up and they sign Wragge for a game or two. i would take Boone and Sims over Wragge. Wragge isn’t bad, but he isn’t really good either, just OK.
this is actually better than Snyder going
Wragge is the weakest link… Snyder is 2
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Wragge would get picked up though
he’s been a G/C #2 in the league and been on an NFL squad for a few years…he’s more than PS material not to mention he doesn’t have eligibility. So we’d just be saying goodbye to him
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goodbye
I’ll saw it now
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 26, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I think they're giving Snyder a chance to make the roster
if he wants to.
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