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49ers Offensive Line Battle: Alex Boone versus Barry Sims

One of our many discussion points heading into the past two preseason games has been the play of the offensive line in general, and Alex Boone's battle for a roster spot in particular. One useful way of assessing the battle to date would be looking at Matt Maiocco's always useful player-by-player recaps. He takes a look at every player and provides a rundown of playing time and a few quick thoughts on each player.

At this point, it would seem like Barry Sims and Alex Boone would be battling for a roster spot. Obviously both could make the roster at the expense of a third player, but given the swing-man type of role involved, they are a good comparison.

@ Indy
Boone
: "Entered at beginning of second half at left tackle and played the rest of the way, 31 snaps. He was called for a holding penalty, but his feet looked much better than last summer. He did a very good job in the second half of handling defensive end Ervin Baldwin one-on-one."

Sims: "Did not play, coaches decision."

vs Minnesota
Boone
: "Entered at beginning of second half at left tackle and played 12 snaps. Then, he moved to right tackle, where he played the final 23 snaps. Surrendered a sack on his first snap, as Brian Robison blew past him to drop Davis for an 11-yard loss. After that first play, he turned it around and held his own."

Sims: "Entered at left tackle in the fourth quarter and played 23 snaps. Did not allow any pressures."

Based strictly on playing time, Boone is obviously getting a bit more time overall, and in particular at the always important left tackle position (as well as some RT time). However, given that this is the preseason, and comparing Boone with Sims, I'd imagine the team has to believe they already know what Sims brings to the table. Boone is getting a lot more action this year now that he's gotten in shape and improved his mechanics.

The question at this point, at least in my mind, is whether Boone is making the necessary strides to potentially supplant Barry Sims? At this point, with Heitmann on the shelf with his broken leg, it's going to be tough to keep both Sims and Boone. I suppose you could factor Tony Wragge and Adam Snyder into this equation, but I suppose that will depend on how flexible the 49ers feel they can be with their offensive line depth. Snyder can play guard and tackle. Wragge can play guard and center. Boone and Sims can primarily play both tackle positions, but not guard or center.

Given Heitmann's injury, does the team feel it has to keep Wragge for now as a backup center? In that case, since Wragge can swing over to guard, does the team cut Snyder loose in order to keep both Sims and Boone? Choices, choices.

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Wragge has to stay for now

he’s the only backup center for game day (who’s been backup C before, the better of the options). They have to keep 9 for now.

Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 24, 2010 7:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Snyder

I need to watch him more to see if he’s improved since last year. That he can “play” guard is a plus, but is it just that he knows the position or can he actually hold his own in there? I don’t want a guy who “knows” Guard and Tackle but can’t play either worth a lick (which has been Snyder’s M.O. thus far). Wragge has been seeing time at Guard too…why not keep Sims, Wragge and Boone?

The other question is why isn’t Boone getting any Guard reps or is it that they don’t want to put too much on his plate, rather let him focus on being the best Tackle he can be for now?

Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Tedd Ginn/Delanie Walker, Frank Gore, Brian Westbrook...which one is getting the ball and where?
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 24, 2010 7:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Boone

Maybe I have let emotion judge Boone instead of how he really plays. I want this guy on our team, he is talented and has shown a ton of heart. The problem is that he is still unproven. Snyder is being judged by emotion too but on a different swing from Boone. I still think that he is better as he has the experience, but Boone will surpass him if we can keep him.

by mcwagner on Aug 24, 2010 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Smash-mouth football...

needs depth at offensive line and RB, and we finally have that. I think we need to march into the season with a ton of linemen and less WRs. So we have 5 receivers instead of the sixth that would never get action and bring in a lineman who would.

by mcwagner on Aug 24, 2010 7:14 AM PDT reply actions  

5 WR's is all but certain

however the DB’s might also take a hit…4 CB’s, 4 Safeties is a distinct possibility. I see a lot of LB’s on the team

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 24, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crabtree, Morgan, Williams, Zeigler, Ginn
Clements, Spencer, James, Paymah?
Goldson, Lewis, Smith, Mays
Does seem a bit strung out but we have too many good LBs and we need line depth. Im cool with that

by mcwagner on Aug 24, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clements Spencer Brown Paymah (Adams)

5th CB will be the option

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 25, 2010 5:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Crabtree, Morgan, Ginn, Zeigler, Williams
Clements, Spencer, Brown, Paymah, Adams
Goldson, Lewis, Smith, Mays, Taylor

by mikeinsp on Aug 24, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be happy to say good bye to Lewis this year

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by smileyman on Aug 25, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd do it

if Al wants to pull the trigger on that.

The money we save between Lewis and Clements would pay Nnamdi’s contract

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by smileyman on Aug 26, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why can't Boone be backup at RG?

Is he too slow? Wouldn’t seem that way.
Is he too tall? maybe? but see Gallerey
Is he too good as a T?

If we already have both starting T positions covered for years to come, it seems to make sense to turn Boone into the new and improved Adam Snyder. Any thoughts?

I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT

by goatfather on Aug 24, 2010 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

mostly no need to move him there

until we’ve found out he was a failure at T

by foosball4949 on Aug 24, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's what I was asking elsewhere

unless the plan is to see just how good of a LT he can be for either a stellar swing tackle backup or trade value. Staley is signed thru the rest of his career (seriously) and isn’t old at all, Davis is only 20…I mean, Boone would be a nice insurance policy if Davis doesn’t pan out but after that…

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 24, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll say there's a chance he doesn't pan out

but I’m not assigning any percentages to it yet

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 24, 2010 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea

but I’m feeling…uneasy

by foosball4949 on Aug 24, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

The kid's already looked much better from week 1 to week 2

and you’re getting ready to write him off?

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by smileyman on Aug 24, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even I will give credit where its due

Though I’m more worried about a Haynesworthesque off-season workout regimen

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haynesworth actually lost a ton of weight in the off-season

something like 30lbs—the dude looked good. The reason he failed the conditioning test is because Shanahan made it almost impossible for a man that size to pass it.

The rumor is that Haynesworth was trying to lose the weight so he’d be too small to play NT

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by smileyman on Aug 25, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was apt to believe that too...

Then after Suh held out on his contract they gave him the same standards and he made it with like 3 seconds to spare on each one…

Then again Suh is a freak with HoF potential… So its not just some schlub.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 26, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Suh had a different coach

with a different conditioning drill.

Each team runs a different one. Here’s what Shanahan wanted Haynesworth to do. The test consisted of two 300 yard shuttle drills, 25 yards each shuttle (so six shuttles). First test has to be done in 70 seconds, then a 3 1/2 min rest and then 73 seconds for the next one.

For a big man it’s not necessarily the running that’s the problem but the stopping and starting and bending.

The other thing about this test—it’s not required for everybody on the team, just those that missed 50% or more of the off-season workouts. Basically it was a test designed to humiliate Haynesworth and it worked.

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by smileyman on Aug 26, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Staley is sign'd threw the turn of the century ....

… Davis , is gonna be kewl , no worries here …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!

by Edggy on Aug 24, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Snyder

I understand Snyder’s capabilities and experience. The experience in particular can’t be denied. But MY experience is the guy hasn’t played up to expectations. And I would let him go. I am definitely not worried about Davis after what I saw last week. He’s improving quickly. I’m more worried about Rachel, actually.

Wragge should be there as a back up guard and center (he’s been good over many years for us as a back up) as well as Bass as a back up when Heitman comes back, and Boone and Simms at LT and RT tackle.

The 9: Staley, Iupati, Hietman, Rachel, Davis — Bass, Wragge, Boone, Simms. . . .Hopefully Rachel gets it together. He’s up and down. Otherwise, RG could become our weakest link. Could Bass play RG if he had to? I wonder. When healthy he is a good player. Not great. But would he better than Rachel at his opposite guard spot?

by Since79 on Aug 24, 2010 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Baas would definitely get a shot to play RG if Rachal struggles mightily

but I also think Wragge and Boone could try their hand there as well. I like that lineup actually. Keeps the best Tackle backup, the best upside Tackle, and two guys who can backup C or G

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 24, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Let’s give Boone a shot there when Rachal struggles.

by mr. instigator on Aug 24, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Life is good

I love being able to talk about getting rid of guys who are of good quality. Can you have too many good linemen? Don’t look now but in a couple years the Niners will be loaded (hasn’t happened since ’94)

by mcwagner on Aug 24, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think on our team we could get away with having Boone there

Alex is 6’5" so he can see over the line. A shorter QB you probably wouldn’t want a guy that’s 6’8" as your guard.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah dude is freakin huge

almost too tall

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 25, 2010 5:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the reason they are playing Boone a little more right now, is because they know what Sims brings to the team. He was solid last season when taking over at LT, so I’m pretty sure he’s a lock to have a roster spot.

Boone is improving, but over the next two games, he’ll have to match the level of play of Sims to stay on the team. At that point, I think they let go of Snyder if they feel Boone is too valuable to give up. The injury to Heitman keeps Wragge on the team, unless the team feels that Heitman will only be out a game or two of the regular season… then they may take a chance praying that Baas doesn’t get hurt until Heitman comes back.

by aBulldog on Aug 24, 2010 9:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Boone brings the most upside of any of the backups

and more than Rachel IMO. We don’t let him go after he’s turned his life around. He won’t be on the waiver wire for 10 minutes before he’s fielding offers to go be somebody else’s groomed tackle of the future.

I like the idea of letting him compete with Rachel though.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Rachal a lot

Rachal needs to carry over what he learned from the end of alst season to this but I think he can be a very good guard in the league

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by smileyman on Aug 25, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sims IMO needs to stick around

He still appears to have the better skills plus he adds the benefit of being like a mentor to the younger guys. Having him around for one last year I think is going to prove to be pretty valuable to the OL as a whole. If Boone is kept on the PS to learn one more year and step in if and when needed, he will be more than ready next year.

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by Mangoman on Aug 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree

I don’t get the crowd pushing for Boone over Sims. I’m fine with keeping both of them but no way would I want an untested Boone at LT if Staley goes down again.

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by smileyman on Aug 24, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sims was a great stopgap last season

Unless he is battling some injury, they should have great confidence in him at LT#2

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Aug 24, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snyder goes even if we have to switch Boone or Sims to take his position

Boone has very high upside and it looks that in 3 or 4 years he might fulfill it. Even if we have a pro bowl tackle (that would be amazing), and a pro bowl guard it never hurts to have a guy that can play tackle collecting, at most, a starting guards paycheck.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

this

Snyder is getting reps at center though. If this continues we’ll monitor it and it COULD spell doom for Tony Wragge.

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 25, 2010 5:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wragge getting reps at center today

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by smileyman on Aug 25, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well interior linemen are getting more bucks

Jahri Evans 7 years $56 million.

nick mangold 7 years $55 million

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by smileyman on Aug 25, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We can't PS Boone

There’s no way some team that needs OL help doesn’t claim him.

by Andrew9erfan on Aug 25, 2010 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wragge knows center, but Snyder taking center snaps in practice now.

Matbe they train Snyder for the next 2 weeks and use him as a backup center for the first 2 weeks. Wragge probably would clear waivers and if Baas gets hurt in a game, Snyder finishes up and they sign Wragge for a game or two. i would take Boone and Sims over Wragge. Wragge isn’t bad, but he isn’t really good either, just OK.

by ericalancanty on Aug 24, 2010 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

this is actually better than Snyder going

Wragge is the weakest link… Snyder is 2

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 24, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wragge would get picked up though

he’s been a G/C #2 in the league and been on an NFL squad for a few years…he’s more than PS material not to mention he doesn’t have eligibility. So we’d just be saying goodbye to him

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 25, 2010 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

goodbye

I’ll saw it now

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 26, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they're giving Snyder a chance to make the roster

if he wants to.

Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter

by Tre9er on Aug 25, 2010 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

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