San Francisco 49ers @ Oakland Raiders: A Preseason Prospector's Guide
by David Fucillo on Aug 25, 2010 10:00 AM PDT
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The 49ers make a quick jaunt trip across the Bay to face their long time geographical rivals, the Oakland Raiders. Although they are in close proximity to each other, the rivalry exists mostly between the fans, as opposed to the organizations. Even still, this is a huge game for both teams because it is the magical "third" game of the preseason. Generally, the third game is when we see starters playing for an extended period of time. The 49ers have played their offensive line more than most thus far, and it wouldn't surprise me to see the 49ers offensive line go deep into the third quarter.
The 49ers travel to Oakland to face the Raiders in what will be the 10th consecutive preseason the two teams have matched up against one another. With Oakland holding a 19-18 advantage in the preseason series, the 49ers will look to even up the tally and win back-to-back games for the first time since winning five consecutive games from 1991-1993, 1999 and 2001.
Off to a 2-0 start for the second straight preseason under Singletary, the Niners are coming off a 15-10 victory last week over the Vikings at Candlestick Park. After receiving the ball on the opening kickoff, QB Alex Smith led the offense on an impressive 12-play, 70 yard drive, going 5-6 for 49 yards. Rookie RB Anthony Dixon, who capitalized the drive with a four-yard TD run, currently leads the NFL with 151rushing yards this preseason.
49ers-Raiders Connections
Coaches
• 49ers offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye served in the same capacity with the Oakland Raiders during the 2004-2005 seasons.
• Raiders defensive coordinator John Marshall coached with the 49ers from 1989-1998, serving as the defensive line coach from 1989- 1993, linebackers coach from 1994-1996 and defensive coordinator from 1997-1998.
• Raiders quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett was a quarterback/receivers coach with the 49ers (1982-85).
• Raiders passing game coordinator Ted Tollner coached in many capacities for the 49ers, serving as quarterbacks coach (2002-03), of- fensive coordinator (2004), offensive assistant (2007) and quarterbacks coach/assistant to head coach (2008).
FORMER RAIDERS - 49ers T Barry Sims played nine seasons (1999- 2007) with the Raiders, starting 115 games for Oakland...49ers PK Joe Nedney played the final three games of the 1999 season for the Raiders and converted 5 of 7 field goals.
RAIDERS NORCAL CONNECTIONS - T Elliot Vallejo played at UC Davis from 2004-2006 where he started 32 consecutive games...Rookie free agent FB Manase Tonga is a native of San Mateo and holds school records at San Mateo High for most rushing yards in a game and in a season...DT Ryan Boschetti is also a peninsula native as he is from nearby Belmont, California...T Langston Walker is an Oakland native who starred at Bishop O Dowd High School...DE Greyson Gunheim is from Sebastopol, California where he attended Analy High School.
BROTHERLY LOVE - 49ers RB Brian Westbrook was a teammate with Raiders TE Tony Stewart with the Eagles during the 2001-2002 seasons.
BUCKEYE! - 49ers WR Ted Ginn Jr. was a teammate of Raiders DE Jay Richardson from 2004-2006 at Ohio State University.
TEXAS TWO-STEP - 49ers CB Tarell Brown and Raiders S Michael Huff roamed the secondary together at Texas for three seasons (2003-05).
SUN DEVILS - Raiders LB Travis Goethel played with 49ers rookie WR Kyle Williams from 2006-2009 at Arizona State, while Raiders G Brandon Rodd played with both of them from 2006-2007.
IN HUSKY HEAVEN - 49ers S Dashon Goldson played with Raiders DE Greyson Gunheim and T Khalif Barnes from 2004-2006 at the University
Preseason Series Highlights
Preseason Matchups: 37
Preseason Series: Raiders lead series 19-18
First Preseason Meeting: 9/3/67, 49ers win, 13-10, at Oakland
Last Preseason Meeting: 8/22/09, 49ers win, 21-20, at San Francisco
Current Streak: Won 1
Longest 49ers Win Streak: 6 (8/4/84 - 8/12/89)
Longest Raiders Win Streak: 7 (9/1/73- 8/11/79)
Most 49ers Points: 42 (8/15/89): 42-16 at Los Angeles
Most Raiders Points: 42 (8/31/69): 42-28 at Oakland
49ers Shutouts: 2 (Last - 8/8/93): 27-0 at Palo Alto
Raiders Shutouts: 1 (9/3/77): 33-0 at Oakland
2009 Statistics
| 49ERS (rank) | RAIDERS (rank) | |
| 8-8 (2nd NFCW) | Record | 5-11 (3rd AFCW) |
| 20.6 (18th) | Points per game | 12.3 (31st) |
| 290.8 (27th) | Total Offense | 266.1 (31st) |
| 100.0 (25th) | Rushing Offense | 106.3 (21st) |
| 190.8 (22nd) | Passing Offense | 159.8 (29th) |
| 29:46 (18th) | Possession Avg | 28:18 (27th) |
| 17.6 (4th) | Points allowed/gm | 23.7 (23rd) |
| 326.4 (15th) | Total Defense | 361.9 (26th) |
| 97.0 (6th) | Rushing Defense | 155.5 (29th) |
| 229.4 (21st) | Passing Defense | 206.4 (7th) |
| 44 | Sacks | 37 (t-11th) |
| 47.6 (2nd) | Punting Avg (Gross) | 51.1 (1st) |
| +9 (5th) | Turnover Differential | -13 (t-30th) |
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Was gonna buy tickets to the regular season game against Oakland...
But was afraid I’d get stabbed…….from Ray Lewis ; )
Both of these teams Offenses were not that great last year, but both should be much better this year.
I hope that the starters don’t play into the 3rd QT. The O-line has play alot this season to get hem as much game experience as posible, but it is still a preseason game and don’t want to risk injury against bubble players still trying to make the team.
Ahh come on man
I already bought my tix for Oct. the 17th, the game is gonna be awesome and we need all the Niner faithfuls there. Don’t worry bout getting stabbed its in our backyard not the blackhole (That’s what she said)
I think it'll be ugly
we’re very deep and very good this year.
Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter
Be very interested to see what the Niners starters get done against a team they should beat this season.
Also, be interesting to see what the Niners throw at the Raiders in this preseason game, as they play one another later in the season, when the games count. Might be more vanilla than we’d like to see this time around.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Aug 25, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions
Off topic but
how do you change your name? I remember someone saying they did but can someone let me know?
Just go down to the county courthouse and change your name.....Ochocinco did.
by ericalancanty on Aug 25, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
here on niners nation?
You have to e-mail the tech guy.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 25, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
hey raiders fans
go buy some damn tickets so we can watch the game on tv!
by pwarren85 on Aug 25, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Tape delay till 9PM on Saturday, great. Thanks a lot you losers.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
The New and Improved Bay Area Connections:
Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Aug 25, 2010 11:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
now now'
if you were a raider fan, would you shell out money to see the game?
(Side note: we also need to get rid of that stupid blackout rule)
if their fans weren't a bunch of deadbeat criminals
id pay to go watch it.
Their fans seem to hate us a lot (for whatever reason). You'd think they'd pay to see them play.
Is the regular season game in Oakland? God I hope it isn’t blacked out if it is.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
The New and Improved Bay Area Connections:
Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Aug 25, 2010 1:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The regular season game is at the Stick
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Oakland Blackouts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRfCq7sPqf0
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
How %#$!% nice for you!
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
A Couple Things
First off, we play them again this season so you want see much of the proverbial “tipping of the hand” in terms of scheme. I suspect that the 49ers and Raiders for that matter will not be blitzing as much. In the same breath each team will have 5 regular season game films to view before the 2nd meeting. So one or both sides could show their hand. That will be interesting to look at.
Secondly, the 49ers are a much improved unit, but so are the Raiders. Especially with the additions of Campbell, Mcclain and Wimbley. So this should be a good test for the Niners.
Considering that it appears the 2nd to final game takes on the most importance in terms of starting playing time this could be a good evaluation of where the 49ers are. On the surface we are a vastly more talented team, that’s really not in question. But, are we ready to take care of businees against inferior teams? Remember we lost against Seattle and Houston last season. Two teams that in my opinion we were more talented then.
Either way, Oakland takes more importance in winning pre season games than do the 49ers. That was evidenced by having some of their starting D in the game in the 4th quarter against Dallas during the 1st pre season game. Teams that are not expected to make it to the playoffs have a higher motivation in winning pre season games, simply in order to build confidence. Teams such as the Niners who are expecting to make the playoffs are attempting to fill the final few roster spots, and a couple starting roles. They are not taking as much of an importance in winning, rather they are experimenting with the “bubble” players
"He who lives on hope will die fasting" Benjamin Franklin was a fool
"If we are thinking playoffs, why not look towards the mountaintop"
I like my quote better
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 25, 2010 11:57 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
here's what I heard:
blah blah blah, 49ers DOMINATION!
Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter
Gore should just hitch a ride on Iupati’s shoulder all the way to the endzone.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Iupati in the backfield
followed by Byham, followed by Gore…UNSTOPPABLE!
ok, in all seriousness i know this wouldn’t work so there’s no need to tell me it’s a dumb idea, though if you feel you can’t control the urge to do so anyways, that’s fine too.
Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter
What should happen?
With real competition going on for essentially all of the backup positions, there should be no decrease in effort as the 49ers go to 2nd and 3rd team players. That probably means as much, or more, in preseason than talent. Look for the 49ers defense to dominate and a win (lower score perhaps than we might want to see) for the 49ers. This is a good test of whether the effort will be there against the 2nd tier teams, a real weakness in the 49ers pre-Singletary.
I believe one poster said it best...
Oakland fans are nutz! “They’ll stab your BABY” NUTZ! All the voodoo silver and black paint and the skulls are just outta control. How many skulls do you have to wear to get into the black hole? NUTZ! As I see it, the Raiders Nation is still a third world nation. The Logo on their helmets should have a patch over both eyes. And I say the Niners win by 2 touchdowns! Now I dont hate the Ray-DUHZ, because I am a guy that dont believe in hating. But I have a serious dislike for the fans, players, team, ownership, and mystique. The owner of the RayDUHZ, Alice Davis, strolling around on his silver and black LARK, wearing silver and black diapers that Tom Cable contractually has to change 3 times a day, is the weirdest mofo in the NFL! He used to be a decent NFL person, but he has degenerated into whatever that scary sack of bones on wheels is now. Alice Davis is scarier that the dummy in the black hole with 15 skulls on and about his person. Does that dude have a skull in his underpants? He probably also has silver and black diaper going. Lets face it, Ray-DUH fan is a freak! They are the ANTI-Family Values team. They use to be a team of renegades that Davis gave a chance and they flourished. Now, they are just a bunch of suspect draft picks…UGH!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
That bad huh???????????
Try watchin the Eagles play in Philly. Makes the black hole look like a joke.
Come on now
We all know Cleveland fans are the worst. This is hard, but, Braylon took his talents to New York and Quinn took his talents to Denver.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
And Wimbley has a better situation in Oakland!
Go figure
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Yee-ah
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
by Amigo on Aug 26, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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