49ers Training Camp: Jimmy Raye on rookie improvements and offensive contributions
Jimmy Raye spoke to the media yesterday afternoon and as always I thought there were a few comments worth pulling out. People generally seem to enjoy his media transcripts because he provides a bit more insight than we might otherwise find.
Raye spoke in depth about the development of rookies Anthony Dixon and Nate Byham. This is particularly pertinent given our recent discussion of Brit Miller and the fullback battle. I realize Byham is listed as a tight end and plays mostly tight end, but the team has utilized him in a fullback and H-back type of role, so it's useful info:
On the blocking improvements of RB Anthony Dixon and TE Nate Byham between the first two preseason games:
"Tremendous from week one to week two. And as I told them Tuesday, we got sacked over in Indianapolis four times, we got sacked the other night once, and we had one penalty on offense; so we played much improved. The versatility of Nate is increasing in terms of his ability to play, to move position in the backfield and then on the line, tight end. And Dixon played better in pass protection; he's ahead of schedule in the run part of it because that's the easier part for him; it comes easier for him. He played better a week ago. We're continuing to have blitz periods in practice. Communication for him and being able to see things when they switch, but it's not so much the sacks I'm worried about, it's the hits on the quarterback. Those are the ones that you have to try to cut down or eliminate. If we can get that down to a minimum because that affects the quarterback more than being sacked, if you get hit, that causes you to start looking at the rush more than the coverage. Sacks, you get sacked to get tackled. But when you throw it and you step into it and you get hit and you keep getting hit and knocked down, that's what we're trying to shore up and eliminate at this point."
Miller has gone through quite the seesaw among 49ers fans. Early in camp he was the guy everybody was psyched about. Now, while people might still be pulling for him, the crowd support is not quite so vocal. Although the 49ers have only played half their preseason games, one would imagine this week is a big one for backups to make some noise. Obviously there's the fourth game against the Chargers, but at that point, it's going to be tough to make a different impression.
Raye was also fairly forthcoming about his views on Josh Morgan in the upcoming season:
"Well I think Josh has made tremendous strides and improvements in terms of being a route-running receiver. I wouldn't refer to him as a possession receiver, but the quarterback is very comfortable with him in the short, the immediate area. He has ability to get up on top. I would think he would be a factor and his play will improve because of the other people on the field and we'll give him more room and opportunity to work against the side of the field that he's on based on where [WR Michael] Crabtree and [TE Vernon] Davis and [WR Ted] Ginn are displaced. So I would expect his contribution to be greater than it was a year ago."
In light of my comments about Morgan's potential fantasy impact in 2010, this is certainly an intriguing bit of news. Obviously it's only talk right now, particularly in light of his numbers (or lack there of) in the preseason. However, it makes sense that Raye would see him getting open more frequently given the weapons already on the field.
The final major talking points were in regards to the offensive line:
"I'm getting better with it. I think the test Saturday will be another examination of where we are. I think the Raiders have a huge front, a good rush front, big people; [DE Richard] Seymour and [LB Kamerion] Wimbley in particular, and then [DT John] Henderson. It'll be a good test. It'll be another evaluation process that will help us and understand that it is an evaluation process so that we can further gauge where we are going into the season and what we expose our young group to; what risk-reward factor we take. So, I think we're doing OK there. The continuity is getting better, but it's still youth, it's still young and the preparation and evaluation going forward will help us in terms of planning for them going into the season."
I'm definitely happy the offensive line is getting a ton of playing time together in the preseason. The first game of the regular season is at Seattle, which will be a very tough challenge for Davis and Iupati. You can't really prepare for the crowd noise all that sufficiently in practice. It's really just something the young guys will have to experience and adapt accordingly.
Offensive Coordinator Jimmy Raye
Post-Morning Practice - August 25, 2010
San Francisco 49ers
On whether TE Delanie Walker was in bounds on catch made in practice:
"He was in. It was in the booth. It would have been a booth replay. He sped up a little bit, or he had the route. We'll have to look at the tape and see. The official was right there and said his foot was on the line, even though he drug his inside foot up. But it was, it was an interesting scenario. It's probably one of the toughest calls you ever have to make to win the game, fourth-and-four at the four. You got what we refer to as one of our ‘got-to-have-its' best play, and missed it by a toenail I guess."
On measuring the red zone offense against the red zone defense:
"Yeah, well, we're very good there, in the red zone. We're one of the top five teams in the league in the red zone. A big part of that was in practicing this morning, was number 85. When you set that you got to determine the coverage mechanism on him, but the fact that they're so good, and with the versatility that we have, the combination of it gives us very good work. And the combination coverages that we see and the pressure that they mix forces you to get good really, really fast. So it's very good, very competitive and it helps us to maintain the level of play that we have down there."
On the drill when there was a lot of excitement in practice:
"The period is dealer's choice. It's ownership period, so the defensive signal-caller calls the defense. The coaches aren't involved. On offense the quarterback gets to call whatever play he wants. It's a three-play segment. This morning it happened to be red zone, yesterday it was two-minute situation; 1:35 with one timeout, need a touchdown, and the offense converted that. It gives them a chance to see what they would call in the given situation and then it becomes a competitive deal. You got to win four of the, if it's six you got to win, you got to win four out of the six opportunities. And then in two-minute, if that's the situation, you either have to get a field goal, touchdown, whatever the situation is to extend the game or win the game, touchdown. So you get to see where their thinking is along with what they would call and what they like in those situations and it lets you see them, see them play without the influence of the call of the play from a coach, and what they would go to in a situation if they were calling them themselves. It's a very good period that way."
On whether the players have ownership of the play calls in that drill:
"They have all the ownership, yes."
On the blocking improvements of RB Anthony Dixon and TE Nate Byham between the first two preseason games:
"Tremendous from week one to week two. And as I told them Tuesday, we got sacked over in Indianapolis four times, we got sacked the other night once, and we had one penalty on offense; so we played much improved. The versatility of Nate is increasing in terms of his ability to play, to move position in the backfield and then on the line, tight end. And Dixon played better in pass protection; he's ahead of schedule in the run part of it because that's the easier part for him; it comes easier for him. He played better a week ago. We're continuing to have blitz periods in practice. Communication for him and being able to see things when they switch, but it's not so much the sacks I'm worried about, it's the hits on the quarterback. Those are the ones that you have to try to cut down or eliminate. If we can get that down to a minimum because that affects the quarterback more than being sacked, if you get hit, that causes you to start looking at the rush more than the coverage. Sacks, you get sacked to get tackled. But when you throw it and you step into it and you get hit and you keep getting hit and knocked down, that's what we're trying to shore up and eliminate at this point."
On the importance of getting RB Frank Gore in the game with the rookie offensive linemen:
"It's unimportant to me. It would be different if Frank was a second or third-year guy. But we're talking about a guy that is a Pro Bowl player. I think he can get ready in practice. He's ready. He can handle the ball plenty."
On whether it's important for the offensive linemen to get used to RB Frank Gore's running tendencies:
"Maybe psychologically because what it does, the runner makes the offensive line better. So if you have that kind of runner like we happen to have, they'll play better.
On how much more he expects from WR Michael Crabtree this season:
"That's been a thorn in my side. He's been here but missed a lot of valuable time with the whiplash that he had on the fall ten days or so ago, and we're to the point where the continuity that we have to have, we still haven't at this point gotten a total group together with all the components he and [TE Vernon] Davis and [TE Delanie] Walker and [WR] Josh [Morgan] and [WR Ted] Ginn and [RB] Frank [Gore]; we haven't gotten that all together yet. And we're 10 days out or 14 days out, so we have some time, but we can't go back and get some of the time that we've lost in terms of the consistency or the ‘feel good' for the quarterback and him. His work has been good, his improvement has been good. I think he's such a natural football player, he'll play good. The nuances of the things that we mess up or miss in terms of formations and adjustments, the coverage; those are the things that are of concern right now. Understanding where the hots are, if he's out of position where he normally plays, which he will be some to try to create matchups for him. The nuances of learning to do all of that and the quarterback being comfortable, that is where we have to make some hay here in the next ten days or so."
On how much WR Michael Crabtree will play in Saturday's preseason game against the Raiders:
"At this point no, we haven't talked about it. We will talk about that at the end of the week and weigh that against what happens the following week. On the short week we come back and play Thursday, and how much exposure we get Saturday night with that group, with a short week coming up and then a cut down and then being able to go to Seattle, we got to make some hard calls here in about 72 hours."
On how he envisions WR Josh Morgan's contributions this season:
"Well I think Josh has made tremendous strides and improvements in terms of being a route-running receiver. I wouldn't refer to him as a possession receiver, but the quarterback is very comfortable with him in the short, the immediate area. He has ability to get up on top. I would think he would be a factor and his play will improve because of the other people on the field and we'll give him more room and opportunity to work against the side of the field that he's on based on where [WR Michael] Crabtree and [TE Vernon] Davis and [WR Ted] Ginn are displaced. So I would expect his contribution to be greater than it was a year ago."
On the progress of RB Brian Westbrook:
"I'm OK with it; I'm OK with it. It's hard; it'd been kind of like the situation a year ago with all of them when the system they walked in was different and in a change. You play one system of football for eight years and it's comfortable, you know what the system is, the plays the formations. And then you get this change and he's trying to transfer things from the terminology that he has and make it like so he understands it like what he is used to, conversion wise. And it will take a little time, but his physical play once he plays; he's a very good screen runner, he's a very good receiver and has matchup potential. We don't know anything about him as a pass protector. There's some things that we don't know; they bring two to the side of the back. But he's made three Pro Bowls. It's just a matter of him; I think it'll be like for him and [WR Michael] Crabtree at the stage we are rather than try to go back and learn all of the offense and all of the fundamental bases of it, he'll start to learn the game plan, which is easier, and what he does in the game plan. And you just have to live with the fact that until you get to the offseason and get started from the beginning that he gets the full understanding of what he's doing."
On how C Eric Heitmann is still contributing and helping G/C David Baas while injured:
"Well [C] Eric [Heitmann] is like the backup quarterback. He is the quarterback of the line, so he is very good at recognition of fronts and potential pressures and line calls. And with [C] David [Baas], we still involve Eric in the meeting at night when we go through the tape as a unit together when [QB] Alex [Smith] makes the call and he makes the line call, so it helps to have experience. But for the young guys, and particularly for David in that fashion, because he may see it one way; David may see it one way and Eric, through anticipation and experience, sees, through what he sees, to get to the possible, to the right thing. I don't know in two weeks of work that you can give a guy that in seven to eight years of experience, but he's very helpful that way, and particularly to the right and left side where [T/G Chilo] Rachal is and more particularly where 77 [G Mike Iupati] is. That communication is invaluable."
On whether the offensive line has come together to his liking:
"I'm getting better with it. I think the test Saturday will be another examination of where we are. I think the Raiders have a huge front, a good rush front, big people; [DE Richard] Seymour and [LB Kamerion] Wimbley in particular, and then [DT John] Henderson. It'll be a good test. It'll be another evaluation process that will help us and understand that it is an evaluation process so that we can further gauge where we are going into the season and what we expose our young group to; what risk-reward factor we take. So, I think we're doing OK there. The continuity is getting better, but it's still youth, it's still young and the preparation and evaluation going forward will help us in terms of planning for them going into the season."
On whether G/C David Baas has secured the starting center job in C Eric Heitmann's absence:
"I don't know that that's the correct ‘phrasiology' but I would say he's in the lead. He has the lead in the clubhouse. Now the rules official may come and say it was a sand trap and it's a two-stroke penalty, but I think he's the leader in the clubhouse and if he can; if the guy bogeys at [hole] 18, then he has a chance, he has a real chance."
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Sporting analogies
I love it when sports people use analogies from different sports. Jimmy really sucked the dregs out of that golf comparison didn’t he!
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
by LondonNiner on Aug 26, 2010 7:31 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
jimmy raye translation
“Well I think Josh has made tremendous strides and improvements in terms of being a route-running receiver
when its 3 and whatever Josh will run his route past the 1st down marker instead of a yard short everytime this year. Making fans much happier
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
j mo
if Morgan was on defense he could be called the dark defender
by texasniner06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Morgan, the next John Taylor?
"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow
Hopefully
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 26, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I doubt that
That would be more like Kyle Williams. JT was our punt returner. Morgan doesn’t have that kind of agility. Morgan has more in common with Dwight Clark.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 27, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Love Jimmy Raye day ....
…. If anyone could find me a Jimmy Raye hat , please let me know , i’ve look’d and can’t seem to find one …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's juz my game ...!!
I think Byham
will make it because of his versatility. and maybe caulcrick will make the PS
Remeber how angry people were at the Byham pick?
Some people were mad how we were picking a “blocking only” TE with no hands, but I guess Nate has proven them wrong (as well as the scouting reports that said he was a block only guy)
he was hardly thrown to in college
so he was a relative unknown in the receiving area…but yeah, Hoener has done a good job with him.
Alex Boone WON'T survive on the PS...in fact, he wont even clear waivers.
Let's talk on Twitter
I was pissed because they took another TE in the 6th round when they could have had a QB with some potential
by 9thevolution on Aug 26, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Or a
CB, OLB, or DE
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 26, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I could see what they were thinking though
They carried only 2 TE’s last year. If VD gets injured, Delanie would be THE ONLY TE on the squad…. Not a comforting thought at all.
The other positions, I think the 49ers have a bit more backup-stability, if lacking in top-tier talent.
Max Hall comes to mind
don’t be shocked if Hall is the #2 QB for the Cardinals by the end of the year and the starter by next year.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
He hasn't proven anyone wrong (it's only preseason)
I still hate the pick.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 26, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah man, I was totally surprised last sunday with Byham’s receiving ability.
I think the 49ers might have the best TE corps in football, in fact, I think Walker could be a starter on a lot of other teams in the league. I don’t see how teams are going to be able to account for Walker, Davis and Gore/ Westbrook at the same time.
Throw in our receivers, and this team can put together a very exciting offense this year.
Hard to fathom that Jimmie Raye and Mike Martz talk the same language and do the same job.
by DeathValleyCarl on Aug 26, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions
If Raye could call a good game outside of 2:00 min. drives and being down a huge deficit he wouldn’t have haters.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
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Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Aug 27, 2010 1:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think we're coming to the conclusion
That Alex calls the 2 minute drive now. JR’s playbook isn’t bad. He’s just not very creative in calling it outside 4th and 1. We seem to do much better with Alex as our OC…
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 27, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember watching Caulchrik play at Michigan State, and he was one heck of a physical player. I see no reason to keep Norris over him. He is younger, and has much more upside.
Additionally, I was against the pick of Byham in the 6th round, but from what I have seen in him during the camp is an ability to catch the ball as well. He was brought in to be the 3rd TE and to block, but if we can get some receiving out of him it will only help
"He who lives on hope will die fasting" Benjamin Franklin was a fool
"If we are thinking playoffs, why not look towards the mountaintop"
I like my quote better
by nocal81(Vincent) on Aug 26, 2010 12:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

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