Who do you think wouldn't survive on the practice squad?
We're facing something that 49ers fans haven't dealt with in some time. We have an abundance of apparent talent, or at least high-potential players, at a few positions and as such, the final roster cuts are harder than usual. Much has been said about which players will or will not make it, which players deserve the spot and the like. Not a whole lot has been made about who, of the practice squad-eligible players, would not survive on the practice squad.
Basically, the 49ers waive a player they want for their practice squad. At that point, any of the other teams in the league can sign said player to their active roster (and technically to their practice squad at the point of having waived them). If the player isn't immediately signed to an active roster, the Niners can then sign him to their practice squad, where he'll stay until they either elevate him to the 53-man roster, they waive him, he signs to another team's 53-man roster (cannot be signed from one practice squad to another), or until, obviously, his contract runs out. Or he goes all Glen Coffee on us.
After the jump I examine some of the players who are considered "fringe," and whether or not they would survive on the waivers. So, you know, jump.
OT Alex Boone
Boone has practice squad eligibility, and he's most definitely a fringe player. Before Eric Heitmann was injured, I was happy to include both Boone and Barry Sims on the 53-man roster. Now that it's happened though, there's doubts as to whether or not he'll make it, with Tony Wragge suddenly becoming useful. With Barry Sims stepping in and playing well, it's hard to say Boone bumps him from the roster. But will Boone survive on the practice squad?
At this point, I'll say that he won't. He's a very big and at one point, very highly regarded by scouts. He played well in college, but fell off due to a myriad of off-the-field issues. After a year in the league on the 49ers PS, he had the best offseason he possibly could, getting in shape and mentally preparing to earn a spot. I think a number of teams jump on this guy if he makes it to waivers. So my verdict is that the only way the team keeps Alex Boone is if they take, say, one less defensive lineman in order to keep ten offensive lineman.
FB Brit Miller
Miller also is eligible for the practice squad despite being elevated at the end of last season. Miller was, how you say, a Niners Nation favorite in the months leading up to the preseason. When my projection didn't include him, I was "pretty much an idiot," which I totally understand. It's easy to like the guy. Right now though, he's buried on the fullback depth chart. It doesn't look like his route to the 53 is playing fullback. It will be as a special teamer. But do the 49ers have the roster space for him? That's debateable - but the question is whether or not he'll survive on the PS.
I'll say yes. Brit is a guy who I actually believe is a good fullback, and as Lam (I think) noted in his latest projection, maybe the team isn't letting him show his stuff so other teams can't take notice and snatch him up. I believe this to be 100% true, and I think he'll clear waivers without hassle.
The team may or may not have room for a fifth safety. With the drafting of Taylor Mays, one has to wonder if Taylor has a spot on the roster. He probably doesn't, and the team will think long and hard on whether they want Taylor or Chris Maragos. Personally, I like Maragos more, but that's just how I feel. Will Taylor survive on the practice squad?
Once again, I'll say yes. I think Taylor clears waivers without incident, with a small chance of being picked up. He showed some good things, and he showed some bad things. A team might take a chance and scoop him up.
LB Diyral Briggs
Briggs is making it awfully tough for the 49ers right now to say "no." He spent the offseason working hard and thus far has been very good in preseason. He made the 53-man roster at some point last year, and it now looks like he'll make it again. But what if the 49ers keep less linebackers? What if Travis LaBoy is too good to pass up and the team doesn't want to keep both?
He won't last on the practice squad. Briggs would be picked up so fast, it's not even right. I think there are a number of teams who would claim him.
TE Nate Byham
It's still possible that Byham doesn't make the roster, and I'll keep this short and sweet, I don't think he'd last. He's looked good receiving, blocking, blocking from the fullback position, and hustles in practice. I don't think he'll be a big contributor this season, but he'll make the roster.
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Boone and Briggs tied pretty much
Tackles who can move, in good shape…at a premium. A lot of teams are hurting and would love to have Boone even if only for a 2nd/3rd stringer on their active roster.
Briggs has shown he’s relentless and strong in preseason this year and with so many teams going to the 3-4 there’s no way he’d survive I think.
I’d also put Khalif Mitchell in that category because he’s a guy who can play all over the line in the 3-4, though perhaps better suited for DE due to his height.
I’d really like to see all 3 of these guys kept on the 53 and I think it will pay off very soon.
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Picked the same two
Desperate teams with dead weight would really want Boone. Maybe Pittsburgh or Dallas. He would come cheaply too. Briggs can be a starter on a team with lesser LB’s than our stacked roster.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Briggs could probably go back to a 4-3 DE too
either way, we signed LaBoy as a PRS, so someone would sign Briggs I think.
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I agree that Briggs, Boone and Mitchell won't last on the PS. They are too good to let go.
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had to vote for Briggs
but i wish i could have put in a vote for Boone too.
neither would last more than a few weeks on the PS if, by some miracle, they cleared waivers in the first place.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Sing just said ST's will play a role on 5-7 roster spot decisions
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I picked Byham.
I dunno, I like what I’ve seen from him so far.
I’m curious, how much are PS players generally paid?
$5,200 a week minimum as mandated by the CBA.
not sure what they get paid during the offseason, when the practice squad doesn’t really exist.
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by these3words on Aug 30, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think Jarrett Brown would last?
I think once Alex grows into his own, and they’re finally sick of Carr, they may upgrade Jarrett to #3 and Davis at #2.
I think Brown is safe on the ps, for now.
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by jacobtaylor2002 on Aug 30, 2010 12:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He's definitely safe....
Undrafted and taken no snaps in games. If they really are down on N. Davis, Brown will be on the PS this year. Personally, though, I’d wait to see which other rookie or PS eligible QBs are cut and measure them against Brown before saying he’s a lock.
The Cards have two rookie QBs that are decent and could be good projects. Someone else would likely take a flyer on them and put them on as a #3 QB. I definitely think a QB should be put on the PS unless they already know next year is the time to draft a QBotF
by 9thevolution on Aug 30, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
both the Cards rookie QB's
are good prospects. I really think they should deal Leinart for a bag of chips and let the kids learn and possibly play when they realize they wont make the playoffs…so, in like week 7
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I think it'll be pre-week 7 when that becomes the realization.
I imagine their QB situation will be a carousel much like the browns in ’09.
by 9thevolution on Aug 30, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
but they’re gonna win the division!!!
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Not only the division....
but the Superbowl AND the Universe-bowl lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Aug 30, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I was raving about Max Hall last year
nice to see that he’s vindicating me somewhat.
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naw, they shouldn't deal Leinart for a bag of chips.
they should let him inflate his stats by throwing to Larry Fitzgerald all year and then trade him for more than he’s worth. Like, two bags of chips, or one bag of really good chips. Garden Salsa Sun Chips, to be specific.
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but if you take a QB from the waiver wire
or another team’s practice squad, you have to give him a roster spot immediately. i can’t see us keeping 4 QBs on the roster for long, so if we poach a QB from the Cardinals we have to be prepared to hand him the reins as our third-string QB right off the bat, without any experience in the 49ers system.
so yeah, it rarely makes sense to poach a QB off of someone else’s practice squad.
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Agree with you on that
I think Sing, JR, Johnson should seriously consider putting Brown on the PS. QB is one of the positions with the least depth if not has the least depth. If Alex goes down, I think we’re in trouble. We want to fortify that position with better options for next season and heaven forbid this season!
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yeah, he will definitely last on our PS.
when a team gets desperate for a QB they usually sign a veteran free agent (i hear Jeff George is available;-) rather than steal a raw QB from another team’s practice squad.
the only reason a team could have to take Jarret Brown is if they think he has loads of long-term potential, and if another team thought that he wouldn’t have gone undrafted.
also, it’s possible he could be our #3 when the 49ers get Carr-sick, but it’s also possible they just draft someone.
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They don't get paid in the offseason
They just get paid for the 17 week season. So a practice squad player only makes $88,400 a year. Decent money for a kid right out of college but a lot less than the $285,000 minimum for a first year rookie that makes the 53 man roster.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
They also get the camp fee
which is like $1200 a week (I think that also applies to the OTAs)
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Isn't that an older number?
I thought it was somewhere around 7250 now.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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everything on the internet says it's 5200 a week through 2010.
after that will be determined in the new CBA.
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I'm silly, or something.
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Plus the risk of injury to a guy on the PS is minimal
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Singletary on Boone having a longtime future with the team:
“I would like to think that but we have to wait and see how it all shakes out.”
sounds like Sing is in the same boat as us fans;
wants to keep Boone, but finding a roster spot for him is proving difficult.
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Oh boy, having a safety last name Taylor and first name Taylor. That will be fuin, just like it was keeping up with that paragraph
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by MichaelClutchtree on Aug 30, 2010 12:17 PM PDT reply actions
yeah
Taylor and Mays…no, not Taylor Mays, Taylor AND Mays…sigh…
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Since the Niners have the best young depth in the league....
none of them are safe. Too many teams with question marks on the roster and could use depth and youth. Let’s just accept that whoever doesn’t make the roster, won’t be playing for us anymore.
the problem then becomes
keeping Sims equals 1 year of good LT play and sacrificing potentially 10 years of good LT/RT play in Boone…that’s the rub.
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How do you know he won't?
Further more how do we know that the veteran tackle won’t hit some kind of wall this season??? I like Sims but right now we need to keep the future in mind so we don’t end up in a rebuild in 3-4 years.
I don't
but I can guarantee you without a shadow of a doubt that Sims wont.
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Oh no I'd cut Sims or one of the other guys....
If you’re keeping Sims and Boone, you cut Snyder. If you’re intent on keeping Snyder (which they should since Baas might not be back next year), then you cut Wragge. Either way, out of that list, Boone and Briggs should make it and Taylor and Byham would be tough to let go. I’m not worried about losing Miller.
by 9thevolution on Aug 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Snyder has to make it.
he is a backup at every position on the offensive line, so keeping him allow us to have just 6 O-Linemen active for each game, which means the other 3 or 4 O-Linemen on the roster can be part of the inactive 8.
otherwise, you have to declare more DBs/LBs inactive and those postitions are valuable in return coverage.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Staley just got banged up and Sims played well.
We want to be a playoff team now. Sorry, but we need Sims more than Boone now. Right now is all that matters for a team that wants the playoffs now.
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Yup
It’s not even a competition between Boone and Sims anyway. Sims is guaranteed to be on the roster. Boone isn’t. If it comes to cutting an offensive lineman it’ll be Snyder or Wragge in favor of Boone.
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and
if say baas was to get hurt i say go after a vet center like mawae to fill in till hietmann comes back. then you can cut mawae and nothing is guaranteed
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we have to keep Snyder
because of his versatility.
Wragge can go.
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I'd rather have neither of 'em
but yeah if it has to be one of ’em let it be Wragge over Snyder
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Trades?
I wonder how common they are at this point in the season. I guess with the cuts coming, teams may want to take a chance to find gems in the rough and not lose draft picks. I wish we could package Boone, Taylor, et al, for a more advanced DE than we have. Seems like an embarrassment of riches!
have seen a few rookie trades today, bizarre
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Uh, I have to vote for Brit Miller to the PS because ...
Miller is the only one of your five candidates who will NOT be on the Final 53!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Aug 30, 2010 1:06 PM PDT reply actions
Oh man someone better than ICE
That would be wonderful to have a guy who can stay off his butt for a change.
Another question would be who would you be most upset about losing?
I know a lot of people that the world was going to end when the 49ers lost Kory Sheets last year to the Dolphins. BTW, he still has yet to record any stats. I’d be really upset to lose Briggs or Byham but I’m pretty sure both will make the 53 man roster. I’d also be upset to lose Boone but I’d get over it.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Boone or Brigs
biggest impact players I think.
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or even
Briggs
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Impact player and Boone? This love for his story is shadowing whats important, winni the game.
We can take a 4th rounder as good as Boone
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is it possible the 49ers got better UDFAs than draft picks in 2009?
2009 49ers draft picks:
Michael Crabtree
Glen Coffee
Scott McKillop
Nate Davis
Bear Pascoe
Curtis Taylor
Ricky Jean-Francois
2009 49ers UDFAs:
Alex Boone
Khalif Mitchell
Diyral Briggs
Kory Sheets
…and that’s just off the top of my head.
i think Crabtree saves the draft class, but that was a serious haul of undrafted players. next year, when i get excited about all the UDFAs we sign after the draft and someone tells me to get real, i’m going to go right on believing that every one of them will be a great player some day.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
I thought McKillop had a lot of potential
and RJF is really shining through, but yeah that was an abysmal draft class.
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It's Boone
Read the comments on Barrows cut down article. A lot of ridiculous ideas on how to keep Boone o the team along with insults towards the writer.
Pretty much my sentiments
We are talking about a third-string tackle for this year with potential for next year as a backup. If Staley is injured this season, I want Sims not Boone to take his place. If Davis is injured, I would prefer Snyder to Boone.
We are talking about a potential backup this year and starter in 2 years with Boone
You don’t throw that away. I’d bet he’d be better than Rachel RIGHT NOW.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 30, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I doubt we let Boone go
I just do not see it! They have been praising him all off season and by him being one of the on the fringe players everyone knows about the guy.
Briggs can not be let go either since next year Manny may not be with us. Of course that all depends on the play of Manny and Brooks once he gets back!
boome
is definitely my pick…there is so much potential for a guy we got for scraps and I would hate for another team to cash in on him just because we don’t wanna add him to the 53…he was a first team big 10 player and I think he has tremendous upside
by texasniner06 on Aug 30, 2010 1:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Cut Nate Davis
That gives us an extra slot for Boone. By this time next year Jarrett Brown will be farther along than Davis would be in his 3rd year. BYE N. DAVIS
Gimme 1 round!
Its tough between Boone and Briggs
I say keep both at the expense of Wragge. I say risk it on an additional injury on the hopes that in such a rare event Snyder could play C as well.
letting Boone go would surely be the end of his 49ers career, would say the same about Briggs. However, with Brooks and La Boy being legit on the rush I’d say depth at Tackle is more important.
Again the best situation involves keeping both of them. I think with RJF’s versatility and solid play warrants cutting a DE and keeping Briggs.
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
correction DT
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
If I were to rank them in order
Briggs
Miller
Boone
Bynham
Taylor
Briggs showed some flash as a pass-rushing OLB, always a premium position in the league. You can never have too many guys who can get to the QB. Miller was on the active 53 for us last year and dressed for several games as a special teams guy—he’ll be a guy that teams would like to have on their roster. Boone showed some ability at tackle and teams like depth. Bynham looked good as a lumbering TE, so teams might take a chance on him as a backup. Frankly I can’t think of anything that Curtis Taylor brings.
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If we cut Briggs and Miller I'm 100% certain they'll be claimed
Boone I’m about 75% certain, Bynham about 50%. If we cut Taylor he’ll still be around for us to pick up if we want to.
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Briggs and Boone won't make it to the PS.
Given what Sing said about 5 to 7 players for the ST I would bet that gives Briggs, Miller and even Taylor a bigger chance.
Still Boone is too good to let go. Play Snider at C in the next game and let him back up Baas. Then you can get rid of Wragge and keep both Sims and Boone. Remember Sims is not a good RT and Boone can play both.. better than Snyder.
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briggs
hasnt looked very fysical this preseason could be a bum ankle he’s playing through but not impressed on ST. Kinda 50/50 he’s been good on coverage units but as the upback on kickoff return he’s not smashing people he’s slowing up embracing the contact instead of delivering
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off topic
but i think i saw you say it somewhere else…and i agree looks like manny lawsons bull rush/ strenght at the point of attack is much improved from last year. the couple games you broke down (which was great) he had 0 bullrush i know its preseason but it looks MUCH better
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think your right
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i wasn't going to correct you on this,
but you just referred to Nate Byham as “Bynham” twice in a row.
Andrew Bynum fan, are you?
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I would take
Briggs, Byham, Boone, taylor, then miller. They haven’t put in Brit Miller in enough to see what he’s got. Either way, September 12 gets closer each and every day : )
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