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49ers Contract Situations: Who gets extended first?

Earlier today, I had a post about the restructuring of Michael Lewis's contract and what that means going forward. There are several ways to spin it, one of which was that taking money from him could be a move inspired by needing cash for other players. I don't think we should jump the gun and assume such things, especially because I think that the money was freed up more so because they don't feel that Lewis should be paid much more than the $1.7M they restructured to. Still, it's worth (another) look at who is coming up and due for an extension and pay raise, or as it shall be known, an "anti-Lewis."

Because it literally will be the opposite of what happened to Michael Lewis — rather than lose two years, a given player will get at least another two and rather than a pay cut, a given player will get a pay raise. I'm sure you know all of this, but I tend to rant on without particular rhyme or reason, though I think I may have one here.

If some of this money were to go to a player coming up on a contract year, who do you think it goes to? The 49ers already have some cap room to spread around, but so far it seems like they've only had semi-significant talks with pro bowl tight end Vernon Davis. I think it might be someone else, personally, so make the jump to find out who.

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Alex Smith comes to mind for the first extension, not because i believe he's done enough to deserve it, but because I get that kind of vibe from the coaches. Singletary and Jimmy Raye (not to mention a sizable portion of the fanbase) seem to be pretty happy with Smith as the starting quarterback. What we do know is that Singletary is, at the very least, uneasy about the backup quarterback position and pretty dead-set on keeping Alex Smith healthy and well-protected.

I'm not suggesting a blockbuster deal or some righteously large extension, but the team was well-off in the regards to cap room (note there isn't a cap, presently) before this restructuring of Lewis, and it wouldn't be a bad idea to take that money and throw it at Smith and kick on one more year to his contract based solely on the fact that quarterbacks can be problematic to sign at times and that's one last thing we have to worry about if Smith suddenly breaks out and demands the big bucks while we have some of these next guys coming up.

Vernon Davis is the next obvious choice, and definitely the most deserving, in my opinion. He had a pro bowl and record-tying year, and nothing he did really appears like it could turn out to have been a fluke. He's coming up on the end of his contract and has already had preliminary talks with the team on an extension. He's confident that a deal will get done, and has expressed that he "isn't worried about it."

Dashon Goldson is a player who's difficult to gauge as far as the likelihood of returning is concerned. He's been rumored to want "top safety money," and the 49ers have been rumored as reluctant to give him as such. After all, he really only did have eight really strong games last season (read: the second half of the season) and it's easy to see why the team is reluctant at this point in time. The team could always use the franchise tag on him, but I'm almost certain he's below Vernon Davis and possibly Alex Smith on the priority list.

Other names include Aubrayo Franklin and Manny Lawson, two players coming up soon. I think Lawson gets an extension before Franklin does, but I'd rate the two of these guys pretty low on the food chain. Ricky Jean Francois makes Franklin a little expendable at the moment, so if he's asking for much, well, that's that. Ahmad Brooks, Diyral Briggs and Travis LaBoy all are crowding around the starting job at either outside linebacker position right now, so it appears Lawson is expendable. It's worth noting, though, that Lawson looks like a different guy this offseason after coming on strong last season. Whether he gets extended depends on his play this year and the play of the Brooks, Briggs and LaBoy, but I do think Lawson's stock for an extension goes up every time he sees the field.

One last name is Shawntae Spencer, who doesn't need an extension so much as he may deserve a pay day. Andy Lee, as well could do with a bit more buck for the bang he provides.

Poll
Who do you think is MOST LIKELY to be extended first?
Alex Smith
124 votes
Vernon Davis
1281 votes
Manny Lawson
30 votes
Dashon Goldson
55 votes
Aubrayo Franklin
39 votes
Other (Please specify in comments)
4 votes

1533 votes | Poll has closed

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Come on now, you guys didn’t even read it.

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by James Brady on Aug 31, 2010 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Speed readers…

Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?

by kinglouie33 on Aug 31, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glen Coffee!

Dashon, Mays, and Bamm Bamm will get the record for most decapitations in one season

by MichaelClutchtree on Aug 31, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Singletary and Jimmy Raye (not to mention a sizable portion of the fanbase) seem to be pretty happy with Smith as the starting quarterback.

lol wtf have you been smoking?

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by MichaelClutchtree on Aug 31, 2010 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Think the Niners might draft a QB early next year? Or trade?

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by kinglouie33 on Aug 31, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of unnecessary, don't you think?

People have been happy with Smith so far, be it due to Carr being awful or what have you. A lot more than past seasons.

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by James Brady on Aug 31, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

-1

Smith is the best chance we’ve got this year. How about showing some support?

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by return2greatness on Aug 31, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

As far as coach Singletary and the 49ers – Singletary, that dude is legit. He’s legit on all levels. He’s doing what he feels is right.
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by 10forTech on Sep 1, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Even if you are a Smith hater, no way Carr or Davis are ready to be a starting QB.

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by Badly Browned on Aug 31, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And another post:

Does anyone know the ramifications of a Nate Clements restructuring or cutting him next year outright? Would there be a cap penalty next year, and what size are we looking at?

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by MichaelClutchtree on Aug 31, 2010 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

The ramifications are that we’d be cutting who is probably our best corner.

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by James Brady on Aug 31, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

nate clements our best corner?

didn’t he get benched for a game last year? i’ll take shawntae, you can have clements.

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by these3words on Aug 31, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

1. Pat Devlin QB 2. Jack Crawford DE/OLB 3. Kendric Burney CB 4. DeAndre Brown WR 4. K.J Wright OLB 5. John Estes C 6. Brandon Saine RB 6. Chris Hairston OT 7. Damarlo Belcher WR 7. Julian Posey CB

by supraman on Aug 31, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

clements was benched due to a mtchup issue not performance.

He holds down his edge and that is the most difficult side to run to. Garcon was another speedy rfeceiver like the ones that torched us before. That benching was stragedy Clements just got hurt. We should have taken 2 CBs in the draft to supplaant him in preparation for the dump.

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by rlott#42 on Aug 31, 2010 5:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1,000,000

I’m sooo tired of hearing that Clements got benched when he absolutely didn’t.

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by smileyman on Aug 31, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's funny

Not that I’m on his side. But Kevin Lynch yesterday said on KNBR that he was “upset about being benched and then had the injury”. I guess there’s debate over what actually went down.

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by Mangoman on Sep 1, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

he didn't get benched?

oh, right, he just had to give up his starting spot for a game because he wasn’t good enough to defend the other team’s starting WR.

that’s WAY different from getting benched.

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by these3words on Sep 1, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would take at least a year or two

But what he’s showing in the early going doesn’t make that too far-fetched.

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by Mangoman on Sep 1, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

"probably."

Down year.

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by James Brady on Aug 31, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. I never said that.

I just called him our best corner, dude.

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by James Brady on Sep 1, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should be like this

1.Davis
2.Smith
3.Goldson
4.Lawson
5.Franklin
Even though i want all of them

by mikeinsp on Aug 31, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Franklin is about Lawson

This team could live without Lawson easily.

I’d actually put Franklin above Goldson as well. Quality NTs are hard to come by in this league.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Aug 31, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know..

Lawson has looked good so far in preseason and I think he’s ready to breakout.

Fanklin is good but Jean-Francois has looked good at NT as well.

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by return2greatness on Aug 31, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ask me last year and I would've agreed with you

but seeing RJF over-perform this pre-season and seeing the improvement from Lawson (hopefully not just due to it being a contract year) and I’m not so dead set on the necessity of signing Franklin.

In fact I think the chances are about 50/50 that he walks at the end of the year

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by smileyman on Aug 31, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm it's a tricky question

Davis would be the most likely if I wasn’t 99% sure he was going to get franchised next year.

Goldson is highly likely to play somewhere else in 2011. I don’t think they can even extend Franklin now until after the season, can they?

Lawson is definitely playing his last year as a 49er.

So, I guess if Smith has a good season he’d be the most likely to extend at some point during the year.

by whistlingmountain on Aug 31, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

if there's a franchise tag

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goldson gets franchised before Davis in my opinion

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by smileyman on Aug 31, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

VD should be easy to re-sign.
Goldson, not so much

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by SportsChicken on Aug 31, 2010 10:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

but the reason Goldson would be hard to sign

is because he wants top safety money, and if you franchise him, you have to pay him top safety money anyway.

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by these3words on Sep 1, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

James

I kinda think Smith might get a short term extension early in the year…especially if he looks good and leads us to a few big wins. Makes sense rather than having to deal with it later and it should be relatively easy to do unless Smith wants to hold out for more…but c’mon…short of a stellar season there aren’t going to be teams beating down his door. Besides, he wants to be here by all accounts.

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I completely agree...

…but considering our cap situation is golden, it’s not far out of the question to take some of that small amount we took for Lewis and just kick it to Smith for an extra year. It’s a very low cost solution to a potential problem.

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by James Brady on Aug 31, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

that’s kinda what I mean…a 1 or 2 year extension

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's MOST LIKELY to be extended

not WHO YOU HOPE is extended first…

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Franklin is unextendable until next year

Rules in place based on the Franchise tag and when he signed it. So he’s out of the conversation.

I think Smith is the most likely from a bargain standpoint. Sign him now for 2 more years (next year is too uncertain for a 1 year deal). If he wins even a single playoff game (which we all are hoping/expecting) then his price point will be a LOT higher than it is today.

Davis needs to get done he’s only going to get more expensive but I don’t see him going anywhere. Goldson would be nice, but I think he’s comfortable waiting the season out.

by Dave R. on Aug 31, 2010 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

wait

I thought he can extend but cant change this year’s money at all? How does that work again? If they can’t extend him now, what’s the date and is it before Free Agency period begins?

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

VD first and foremost.

Franklin is expendable if his demands are to high. Goldson could become the same if Reggie Smith and Taylor Mays continue to develop. Even Manny isn’t safe from Brooks and Briggs get better.

I’d think it would be best if Alex gets extended a year alongside VD getting his new deal. If he does have a good year, the Niners are covered one more year to negotiate a new deal with him, instead of fighting other teams for him.

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by Hoopers Judge on Aug 31, 2010 2:34 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

If Franklin has another good year

I would want to place the franchise tag on him, if there is still a franchise tag. If he doesn’t want to play on the franchise tag, trade him. Teams would trade for a 30 year old NT.

I’d be alright losing Lawson. I want to see more Brooks.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Aug 31, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You'd really want to pay Franklin $14.7m for two years???

That’s absurd. A NT isn’t worth that much money, and there’s no guarantee you could trade him. He either signs long term or he walks. I wouldn’t be opposed to signing him and then taking trade offers if we feel good enough about RJF taking over. He’d only command a 3-4 year deal at his age and the price wouldn’t be staggering.

by 9thevolution on Sep 1, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is exactly the market rate for top tier NTs

Casey Hampton signed a deal this off-season for 3 years, $21 mil at the age of 32. Vince Wilfork got a new deal of 5 years, $40 mil at the age of 28. Sounds about the right price for Franklin then if he shows that he can continue to play at a high level.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 1, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

With no CBA in place for next year, I don’t see how any predictions of extensions can be made.

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by zenbitz on Aug 31, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

What if there is a Lockout?

I don’t know how likely it is but it is possible. I think everyone on the list besides Alex waits to see what they can get from other teams. The 49ers don’t have to extend anyone because there are suitable backups at each position, but that doesn’t mean it wouldn’t be in their best interest to extend these guys. I think Lawson signs first because he will be the first to realise he won’t get much more anywhere else. I think he is solid and marketable but I doubt he will demand top money. Alex’s fate will be decided mid season, I’m sure, and then both sides can wait for the dust to settle before applying the ink. I bet Franklin doesn’t stay. This is his last chance to make serious money and he’s going to the highest bidder. Vernon will always be a 49er (I hope) I don’t know why he doesn’t have an extension but I’m sure both sides need more information about him and about the coming CBA, if there is one. Goldson I think is going to be a franchise tag option, I would tag him. He won’t stay unless you pay him alot, and one more year we may have his position covered for less. I recommend keeping him however, whatever the price.

by Pat Willie on Aug 31, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

No suitable backup for VD...

Sure Walker is good, but he’s not in VD’s league. That’s an absolute must. Nothing to worry about though, he’s happy here and the franchise will pay him his due. Completely agree with Franklin walking, and that’s fine. Goldson should get the tag if it exists beyond this year, and I think they’ll do it so Mays can develop a little bit more.

As for Lawson, you are underestimating the market. Someone is always overpayed in FA and Lawson will be one of those guys.

by 9thevolution on Sep 1, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nate Clements

If cut prior to June 1st we save $4.584M in 2011, $11.167M in 2012 and $11.27M in 2013, with a dead hit of $6.584M in 2011.

Or if cut after june 1st we save $7.25M in 2011, $8.603M in 2012 and $11.27M in 2013, with dead hits of $3.917M in 2011 and $2.667M in 2012. With no Hit in 2013.

by AB83Rules on Aug 31, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Franklin just shot himself in the foot.....

By sitting out and waiting till just the beggining for the season to start, he allowed RJF to showcase himself in the NT position. RJF doesn’t get paid squat compared to the 7 million Franklin will make this year, or how much he will make with a long term deal. The 49ers have to be giddy over the way RJF has handled himself out on the field so far. RJF has played most of the snaps in the preseason and against 1st team players. I’m not sure if the 49er resign Frankilin after this year. It is always about the money.

by ericalancanty on Aug 31, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly.

If RJF is even remotely as good as Franklin, there’s no reason to pay him $8-9 million a year when a 7th round pick could do the same for around 15% that. Though the FO might have to throw Ricky Jean a bone to keep him happy.

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by Hoopers Judge on Aug 31, 2010 10:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

However

I see RJF moving to LDE with Franklin back. Or at least, that is what I’m hoping for.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 1, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want McDonald at LDE

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by smileyman on Sep 1, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do too

but he hasn’t taken the job from Sopoaga yet, so I’m under the impression that he’s not good enough. Therefore, if Franklin is back and RJF has put in the work, why not try him at LDE?

by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 2, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

By your reasoning

RJF isn’t good enough either since he hasn’t taken the job from Sopoaga.

McDonald was actually the starting LDE in 2008 and then got hurt.

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by smileyman on Sep 2, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The league will already throw him a bone

They have compensation for players who overachieve for their salary. Forget what they call the bonus, but it exists. Either way, the organization will likely be smart and extend him early at a reasonable price.

by 9thevolution on Sep 1, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t remember the name either but Josh Morgan got a hefty chunk last year because of it.

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by smileyman on Sep 1, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

i dont know

Anyone else notice how well Travis Laboy has played. I think maybe he deserves a little credit

by nyrangerfan16 on Aug 31, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

does anyone know how long he is under contract for?

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by these3words on Aug 31, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

on my mobile but

My recollection is it was a 1 or 2 year deal. They won’t tack on another year to a 1 year deal unless he’s healthy and performing at the bye week

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 6:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just my thoughts on what we should do

I think we sign Smith for two years sooner instead of later. Because when he does well its going to be a lot harder to keep him on. If he does well we can draft a QB early next year and make Smith play for another year as he matures.
We extend VD first, because he is arguably the best TE in the league at this moment.
Goldson we will probably extend even though I think he plays for the money and not because he loves playing so he will slump as soon as he gets paid.
Lawson and Franklin are basically expendable due to our deep NT and OLB, but I say we sign Franklin and deal him because a good NT is very pricey.

by manraj7 on Aug 31, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Davis, Davis, and Davis....

Alex Smith comes to mind? Says who? Davis helps Crabtree and Gore more than Smith ever will. Our offense is at instant success status, just add consistent Qb here……Not giving up on Smith, but he is not that important to the offense. Goldson can forget it, he is overrated anyway. Lawson Id keep because he is clear cut the best all around olb. Franklin may get another tag, everyone else can go.

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by rlott#42 on Aug 31, 2010 5:24 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

so you want

Vermon Davis, Nate Davis, and Bruce Davis?!? ;-)

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 6:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Just Vernon, 3 times......LOL

I think he is that important, plus Brady will be here anyway.

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by rlott#42 on Aug 31, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

+ anthony davis

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by these3words on Sep 1, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Vernon is much more important than Alex right now

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by SportsChicken on Aug 31, 2010 10:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You're right.

The Niners don’t need a QB. I’m sure the empty space behind Baas/Heitmann could deliver the ball effectively to our weapons. Of course, it’d always smart to turn a blind eye to the guy that made VD a Pro-Bowler.

/sarcasm

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by Hoopers Judge on Aug 31, 2010 10:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

alex smith did not make VD a pro-bowler.

if anything, VD made Alex look better than he is. alex’s stats last year were mostly similar to the rest of his career or a little better, but his TDs per attempt went way up. throw in the fact that more than half of his touchdown passes last year went to Vernon Davis, and it becomes clear that Vernon emerged last year as an extremely talented red-zone threat.

those 13 TDs last year were VDs talent at work, not Alex’s.

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by these3words on Sep 1, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell are you talking about?

Alex Smith is the one that has to deliver the ball to Davis…one can’t exist without the other. In 5 games with Hill as the QB, Davis had 3 TD’s, with Smith he had 10 in 10 games. SO don’t tell me there isn’t a difference between the QB’s. If Smith doesn’t play last year and Hill is the QB all season, Davis has maybe, maybe….6 or 7 TD’s and we win 6 games total. So, yes! Alex Smith made Vernon Davis a Pro Bowl TE.

by ericalancanty on Sep 1, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matt Leinart couldn't have done it

I don’t think Hasselbeck could’ve done it either.

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by smileyman on Sep 1, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

there is a difference between QBs.

but my point was that Vernon Davis was a pro-bowler because he has pro-bowl talent, and not because Alex Smith “made” him one.

maybe Shaun Hill couldn’t have thrown 13 TD passes to VD last year; i’m not denying that a below-average QB can hold back his receivers. But I think most starting QBs in the NFL could have done so, and many could have gotten VD more TDs last year, so i don’t think it’s fair to say Alex Smith “made VD a Pro-Bowler,” as Hooper’s Judge said. VD made himself a pro-bowler by getting open in the end zone better than other tight ends.

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by these3words on Sep 1, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting thought about Smith

By week 6 give him a 2 year deal worth about $5 million per plus another couple million in incentives. That’s pretty cheap for a starting QB, even an average starting QB.

By the end of the season extend VD for 6 years.

If there’s a new CBA and the franchise tag is back slap the franchise tag on Goldson (assuming he’s performing at a high level).

Offer Lawson 4 years at $12 million with $6 million guaranteed. If he doesn’t like it tell him goodbye, we’ve got his replacement in the wings.
Try to negotiate a deal with Franklin that falls between Casey Hampton (3 years, $21 million) and Wilfork (5 years, $40 million). I’d be ok with doing 5 years $30 million, or even 5 years $35 million).

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by smileyman on Aug 31, 2010 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

perfect

7 mil per is about what the tag is for Franklin…he should take it. Love all of this

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by Tre9er on Aug 31, 2010 6:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

5 years for Franklin?

I’d give him a max of 4

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by SportsChicken on Aug 31, 2010 10:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

voidable 5th

heck, I’d make each year voidable

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by Tre9er on Sep 1, 2010 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sold...

When are they giving you Paraag’s job???

by 9thevolution on Sep 1, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Contracts

Vernon Davis is a must. If?? the Niners offense can average 24- 27 points a game as I believe they should accomplish with the players they now have on offense. Then the thing to do would be to resign Baas, and Smith as well as V.davis. Then in the off season they could sure up the defense with free agency and the draft. I don’t why some people believe lawson looks any better, after 3 preseason games no sacks looks like the same lawson to me. Parcys haralson isn’t any better no sacks and missed tackles is all I’ve seen forn him so far. Lawson any haralson need to be replaced. Hopefully Laboy and Brooks could become every down linebackers and replace both.I"d be willing to bet CB Phillip Adams will be the nickle or dime back before the season is over.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Aug 31, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Vernon is key

Frankiln needs to prove he is motivated. Lawson needs to prove he is a starter among many outside lb’s. Goldson must realize to get payed like a top safety you must be a. top safety. Smith cannot continue to be the reason why critics are wary of picking the 9ers to make the playoffs. But Vernon being sent to the showers early one year and set records the next..priceless.

by wtlichens on Aug 31, 2010 8:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

HELL NO..Get his name even off this site..I swear if the niners bring in brady i will stop watching them at that moment..We dont need a let me cry to the NFL so i can get rules made especially for me QB here..I would have taken Warner here..but HELL NO to Brady coming to the niners!

Founder of team Omté Caspeen

by Widowwolf on Aug 31, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was not on the Brady train when it was posted, but for two seasons, yeah 'd take him.

Rules changed for him? Ehhhhhh maybe some bad calls, ok a lot of bad calls, but we would at least benefit, I am sure that if we were in the tck rule game getting a Superbowl bid in our favor, I’m celebratin like its 1999.

Black Sand Ninja!!!

by rlott#42 on Aug 31, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would rather just get playoffs with what we have then Superbowl with Brady

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by Widowwolf on Aug 31, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brady won't hit free agency

Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority

by smileyman on Aug 31, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus he's a cali native

and lives in LA in the off season which the pats aren’t all that happy about. Dont see it happening but ya never know. He grew up a huge niner fan, what if he was to tell his agent i want to retire on the west coast with my fam….were not gonna tell his people were not interested

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by DreZ on Aug 31, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

sign brady

He is the perfect back-up quarterback

by mcwagner on Sep 1, 2010 7:10 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah

if we can sign peyton manning too.

When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.

by these3words on Sep 1, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wont get my hopes up

But that would be awesome

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Aug 31, 2010 10:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't see how anyone could be against this...

Despite what you can say about Brady, the guy can win games when it matters. I’ll also take his playoff record of 10-2(?) and the experience he brings. If our defense makes it to the top 10 this year, our offense can be somewhere around middle of the pack or higher, and we make the payoffs, signing Brady in 2011 would likely make the Niners super bowl favorites immediately.

by 9thevolution on Sep 1, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some things are more important than winning

Like keeping Brady away from San Fran. Can’t stand the guy and would not watch football again till he left the team. I also don’t think his personality would mesh well with Singletary.

by Andrew9erfan on Sep 4, 2010 4:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

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