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49ers Training Camp Open Thread: How banged up are the 49ers?

As I've been poking around training camp news, it seems like a lot of what I read is about different players getting banged up in some manner. Whether it be David Baas' concussion, Chilo Rachal's dehydration, player X's stinger, or player Y's gimpy ankle, injuries seem to be the story of the day. Obviously all teams deal with injuries and something like Rachal's dehydration isn't exactly unique to 49ers camp.

Earlier today, Edggy posted a FanShot to video of Peter King at 49ers camp talking about the team. I know folks have their opinions on King, but as with Mortensen's stuff yesterday (more the written version than the video version), it's always nice to see what national media have to say about the team.

In the video, King mentions how Takeo Spikes told him that this was the toughest training camp in which he'd ever taken part. I actually think he said something similar last year, but I can't find it in the archives. The point being, with the nut-cracker and generally hard-hitting nature of Singletary, how physical is too physical early on? In the end I probably shouldn't be all that concerned because this is not the first time Singletary has run a physical camp. Last year camp was physical, but: a) Singletary went to no pads at a certain point to keep the team fresh, and b) the 49ers won 3 of 4 to close the 2009 season so we can't exactly say they ran into a wall.

Seeing as I don't exactly follow other teams nearly as much as I follow the 49ers, maybe they're all experiencing early bumps and bruises. After all, while players have generally stayed in shape (minus Albert Haynesworth of course), it's still been a long time since they got particularly physical (minus Vernon Davis and his ladies). In the end this is probably a non-issue, but I'm still curious what people think about it.

Feel free to use this thread to discuss this topic, as well as today's practice info as well. I've linked some Twitter feeds to check out. Maiocco is in Canton for Rice's HOF induction ceremony this weekend so he's not at practice.

Sources
Barrows Twitter
Barber Twitter
Lam Twitter

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I read somewhere this off-season

that everyone says “this is the toughest camp ever…I’m in the best shape of my career…QB XYZ looks better than I’ve ever seen him…” so I don’t put much stock in that. TKO is getting older after-all. Plus he wants to maintain the blue-collar image of hard working, hard hitting players that Singletary and Co. have created.

My friend Turron went to 3 practices this week. He said generally they are popping and stopping…ie. popping the pads then releasing. Sometimes they are only pushing or smacking the player’s pads (who has the ball). Still, it’s a game of giant men running fast and close together…stuff happens.

I don’t think it’s an indication of the practices been too tough.

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 5, 2010 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

very nicely put.

It’s not like we are the Super Bowl champions and can afford to not have a challenging training camp. The team is just beginning to understand its potential and must embrace the identity of the coach. Which for the most part it has. I believe in Mike Singletary and his philosophy. Most of the vets are getting rest when they need it, and the young ones need to get through this. I have no problem with this..

by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Aug 5, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

very nicely put.

It’s not like we are the Super Bowl champions and can afford to not have a challenging training camp. The team is just beginning to understand its potential and must embrace the identity of the coach. Which for the most part it has. I believe in Mike Singletary and his philosophy. Most of the vets are getting rest when they need it, and the young ones need to get through this. I have no problem with this..

by Iupati_like_its_1999 on Aug 5, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Practice

Barrows figured practice was in Monterey to prepare for (or simulate) the misty, cool conditions the team would likely face at Qwest opening day against the Seachickens.

I think it’s also to cut back on dehydration and keep the energy flowing, change of scenery, etc.

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 5, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Walker and Baas concussions

concern me a tad. We can’t average two concussions a week. The NFL is taking care of players who sustain concussions, as well they should be, and we’ve seen players plagued by them miss time, even retire.

They need to do something to remedy this.

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 5, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

sorry to post-whore

but Barrows now saying Singletary says LaBoy may have mild concussion after today’s practice…hmmmm

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 5, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That completes the three

Should be done with them for awhile.

by bignerd on Aug 5, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

refresh my memory of last year or previous years

or was it Michael Lewis who got all three?

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 5, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well look's like they need ...

… to bust out the Steve Wallace helmet , remember seeing it for the first time and think’n he look’s juz like ( The Great Kazoo ) from the flintstones …!!

Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!

by Edggy on Aug 5, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wallace and Kazoo ...

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.helmethut.com/DrDelrye/Dr102808a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://foru

Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!

by Edggy on Aug 5, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fail ...

Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!

by Edggy on Aug 5, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Actually it fits the principles that things happen in threes.

by bignerd on Aug 5, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

?

Lewis, Ulbrich, ?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Aug 5, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yup

michael lewis concussed two times in one week last year

Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!

by DreZ on Aug 6, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

not concerned..

This is football not ballet. One principle you work on is replicating the environment of play, or in layman’s terms practice like you play.

Although it is physical now it will be physical on a whole new level once event the preseason games get here. To not prepare for that would lead to a greater chance for injury.

The “concussions” sound like a vague term for “getting clocked” at the rate they are occuring and if it is a true concussion—-like Baas’ perhaps—-then it is prudent to keep them out.

The bigger concern to me are the number one injury to football players: knees. So my prayer and hope is that Mckillop has a 3-4 week sprain and nothing serious.

by 11allstar on Aug 5, 2010 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

It's better to have these guys

dinged up now instead of week 1 of the regular season. Missing time is critical no matter when it happens, but at least when injuries happen now, other players get a chance to step in and show what they have. In the end, that could make roster cuts a whole lot easier, and give the team confidence in its reserves should any injuries occur during the regular season.

I will gladly eat crow if Brandon Jones does well for the 49ers in 2010.

by Andrew Davidson on Aug 5, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I think that's right

Most of the vets don’t need to practice to learn, just to get back in the rhythm of what they already know. The rookies are the ones who NEED to get that practice time.

by mr. instigator on Aug 5, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off topic stuff

So a few months ago I finally caved to the powers of HBO and other premium movie channels.
Anyways, I noticed something (maybe it’s just me): Do these networks have deals with the actors? Because I see the exact same actors in different films. It’s just weird.

Also:

I’m sure everyone heard Ozzie Guillen’s most recent rant?
I know what “inspired” him. He watched the movie “Sugar” which has been playing for the past 2 weeks or so.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Aug 5, 2010 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

HBO later buys the rights to the movies featuring the actors they promote in their television series. They air these movies around filler, non-premier times as means of promoting there shows. Typically these are movies without much of a following to begin with. Studios are probably happy HBO is paying them any kind of royalty to show it. HBO has been doing this for a few years.

by bignerd on Aug 5, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, I see

It just felt weird to see the same people over and over again.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Aug 5, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

McKillop is having an MRI on his knee today and they will know something this evening.

by TIM___ on Aug 5, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

McKillop per Barrows...

Torn ACL? Patellar Tendon? that is awful…

by mwright84 on Aug 5, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Dang , that sux'z ...

… and if i were Franklin i’d stay away for awhile …!!

Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!

by Edggy on Aug 5, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

“sux’z” and “…!!”

your posts get stranger by the day

Dashon, Mays, and Bamm Bamm will get the record for most decapitations in one season

by MichaelClutchtree on Aug 5, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kewl ...!!

Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!

by Edggy on Aug 5, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Get off his nuts man.

This is the third or fourth time you’ve criticized his writing. Are you obsessed or something?

by mr. instigator on Aug 6, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, not that banged up

The Texans had 10 players held out from practice due to injuries. The Broncos put 2 on IR today and lost Elvis for 4 months. I have heard of other teams having injuries here, injuries there. It’s the nature of the beast really. The hope is to avoid the IRs on stars.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 5, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions  

It's the first week of training camp

No matter how hard these guys have been working out in the off-season it’s still going to be incredibly demanding for them. I expect that we’ll see fewer of these injuries as we progress through camp and players get back into the swing of things.

Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority

by smileyman on Aug 5, 2010 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

pray that the McKillops of the world are the only ones we get injured

not that it’s not a major loss…but better him than…I’ll stop there.

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 5, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, you stop rite there ..!!

Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!

by Edggy on Aug 5, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'd argue that it could be quite big

Because there is only one special teams ace remaining (M. Rob).

Taylor Mays, Curtis Taylor, Brit Miller, Dyral Briggs, and Navorro Bowman really need to step up.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Aug 5, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

not true

Miller was great last year on ST’s too. If Hill makes it he’s quite good and so was Zeigler when given the chance. I also think Bowman and Dixon (if he makes it) will play a ton of ST’s

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 6, 2010 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

They need 3 ace tacklers

Hill is good on punt returns because he gets down-field quickly but he’s no Jeff Ulbrich

IMO Miller needs to replace Ulbrich/McKillop, MRob needs to be MRob and someone has to replace Marcus Hudson (probably Mays?)

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Aug 6, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe he'll forget about the WCO

and how everyone in the world should run it…

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 6, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok, before I get flamed

I love the WCO but you can’t just snap your fingers and run it…if everyone gets the axe in a few years, we can talk about it again.

"They can’t stop us. Throw in our other weapons, and it’s over. What are they gonna do? There ain’t nothing they can do. It’s over." - Vernon Davis
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by Tre9er on Aug 6, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

i know we all are fond of the guy......

but trust mckillop will not be missed this year. Guys like him get replaced all the time. Wish him a quick and full recovery to come back and compete next year. But his production will be filled someone at that camp is just as hungry to make the team and well see it soon enough. Pre Season games here we come!

Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!

by DreZ on Aug 6, 2010 12:32 AM PDT reply actions  

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