Colts/49ers Ask a Fan Thread
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:12 PM PDT
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PrintReady to launch a new season with the first pre- season game with us? Hope so cause it is upon us. This thread me and other Colts fans hope will be able to be active between us and you up to the game. Lets get to know one another and especially each others teams. Lets see who we expect to have an impact this season, who the key injuries, or players may be and ect. You will see multiple Colts fans coming here to talk as well as myself so I hope we can have a great convo. and lead up week to this game.
Also please keep this civil on both sides, Thanks
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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Yes i can't wait.
It’s been a long 7 months.
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
Yes.
Yes it has.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
We have two injuries but no info on them. I don't think they will be key injuries.
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Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
we've had 3 major ones.
1. best st player out for year.
2. key backup olb lacerated kidney.
3. starting center and best o-linemen went down today with a leg injury.
Um, how am i supposed to sign this thing? It's a computer?!
Yikes.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Well in fairness
calling McKillop our best ST might be a stretch. He did lead the team in ST tackles but I wouldn’t call him our best ST guy.
Brooks’ injury should be fine—he’ll be ready to go by the season opener.
Heitmann broke his fibula and is out 6-8 weeks. That’s a major one.
We’ve also had a bunch of nicks and bruises including a couple of mild concussions.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
LT Charlie Johnson has a sprained foot
though it’s probably nothing major. Their 3rd round pick (CB Kevin Thomas) hurt his knee in OTAs and had surgery. Most thought he’d be out for the year, but he still hasn’t been placed on IR and at camp people say he’s walking around with no brace or limp.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Update...
LT – CJ is recovering from a sprained foot. No time table for return
LT/LG – Ugoh is injured off and on
C – Saturday is recovering from surgery
OG – McClendon is out for some reason or another
TE- Santi is on IR
K – Swenson is on IR
CB – Thomas is recovering from an injury during the walk around of OTAs, may not be back for the season…
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Any deep threats on the Colts this season?
It cost the SB last season. N.O. waited til the 4th Qtr to jump those predictable short routes.
Well we had one last year in Garcon but he will only be better this year and we got Gonzo who is looking great back.
That to me isn’t why we lost the SB though.
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Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, and Anthony Gonzalez can all get pretty deep.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Bow chicka bow wow
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Gonzo?
He’s not hurt yet?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
No...
But he’ll be puttin’ the hurt on your defense in about a week.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah
Tarrell Brown was statistically the best nickel CB last year.
Gonzo will be playing slot right?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, then it depends on how long he stays in the game.
Brown will likely be the LCB for most of the game.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Only if they play a Wayne/Garcon/Gonzo package.
Then I could see them having him at slot just to try the mix. I fully expect Garcon, Collie, and Gonzo to rotate between those two spots with Gonzo switching between Slot and wide depending on whether garcon or Collie is out.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
I doubt it.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Yet?
Are you expecting him to get hurt?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
He's always hurt
Burned me in FF last season.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
1 season is not always.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
▲THIS▲
I, amongst many other of the core contributors at Stampede Blue, are officially boycotting the site due to the deplorable "leadership" of head blogger BigBlueShoe. We ask, but do not expect, support, from you, our fellow fans, no matter your team affiliation. The ideals of fairness and respect that are the foundation of this great sport that we all love should not stop at the chalk on the boundaries of the gridiron, but should continue through the fans and beyond. To show your support you may email dhalprin123@gmail.com at SBNation and respectfully ask for removal of Brad Wells as head blogger of Stampede Blue. Thank You.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Pssht
He broke my heart.
Not going to forgive so easily.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Let the pain go.
You’ll feel better.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Correction, Gonzo has only had 2 injuries in his pro career that made him miss time.
1 injury for turf toe I think that put him out of one game, then the sudden snapping of his MCL.
This is a touchy subject….
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
sounds like a play-calling issue to me.
the colts are loaded at WR.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
They lacked a deep threat at receiver. Marvin used to be their deep option. Garcon might have the ability but didn’t have that element last season.
uuuhhh yea he had that ability last year. His hands just struggled at times.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that's what bignerd meant
It’s like us saying Ted Ginn has the ability to be a deep threat.
He has the speed but not the hands.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess
I read it as him saying that “Didn’t have that element last year” as he was unable to be a deep threat. Thing is he was that deep threat and was successful a lot it is just his success rate was only in the 60% tile probably. Anyway the point has been made.
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Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
He didn't have that element?
That’s about the only thing he can do. Well, that and pick up penalties.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
I don't know probably only 2 series or so.
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Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
2 series, the end of the 1st quarter,
or the first big hit on him. Whichever one comes first.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Oh god, that means he'll be in all of 90 seconds....
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Random question...
Why are you boycotting Stampede Blue?
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer
Because of the head writer.
Lead organizer of the annual 7 round live mock draft at MtD and Moderator of MtD, AnaheimCalling, and Coltszilla
Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Poor quality writing? Or other issues?
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Aug 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Both.
Lead organizer of the annual 7 round live mock draft at MtD and Moderator of MtD, AnaheimCalling, and Coltszilla
Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm, too bad.
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Aug 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Its ok I am now part of a different Colts blog as you can see in my sig.
Lead organizer of the annual 7 round live mock draft at MtD and Moderator of MtD, AnaheimCalling, and Coltszilla
Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
That's good, always nice to have a quality blog to go to.
-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Staff Sports Writer
by Brett the 49er on Aug 9, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
That doucher
That called our head coach a bum?
by mr. instigator on Aug 9, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes that is the head guy.
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Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
That guy.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
we will trade you Fooch for Peyton Manning.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
Manning is about to sign his last contract. Fooch, on the other hand, is still young and hasn’t reached his full potential. Maybe if they sweeten the pot a little. They are kind loaded at DE now after drafting Jerry Hughes and Mathis is looking for a new contract. I bet Mathis would make a great 3-4 OLB.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Aug 10, 2010 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions
We'll give you Adam Vinatieri...
And his walker.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Fooch is worth way more than that.
Def. Manning and Mathis.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
How about...
We throw in a DT that likes to get drunk and pass out in ditches?
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
We already have that in Alex Boone
Except he’s an OL.
Maybe he could use a buddy.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Who also needs counseling for his problems.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
You are my hero
rec’d
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
That isn't the main reason but is one of many things no one agreed with him about.
Lead organizer of the annual 7 round live mock draft at MtD and Moderator of MtD, AnaheimCalling, and Coltszilla
Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah...
That was really crossing the line. One of the many unclassy things that eventually led to a lot of us permanently leaving the blog.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 9, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I hated that,
but it didn’t make me leave the blog.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
well not everyone here is
(obviously since I’m still a site writer)
I like BBS personally and his heart is certainly in the right place, I also like chatting with the “defectors” a lot. So I didn’t leave the site, but I still e-hang with the boycotters wherever they wander while still posting/reading/commenting on SB.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
His "heart" wants to destroy others (Singletary) to elevate himself. He is seeking admiration.
“Egomania is an obsessive preoccupation with one’s self 1 and applies to someone who follows their own ungoverned impulses and is possessed by delusions of personal greatness and feels a lack of appreciation. 2 Someone suffering from this extreme egocentric focus is an egomaniac. The condition is psychologically abnormal.”
I was referring to the drama on the site more than any stories he posted
he’s certainly quite unreserved when it comes to his opinions on football.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
*sharing his opinions
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Look everyone...
We knew when we decided to come over here and put up a Q&A post that there were going to be some hard feelings because of some of the things that were said by BBS last year and to be honest, I have no love for the guy either, but in the interest of moving forward and mending some fences between Colts and Niners fans could we agree to keep the talk to football and maybe some friendly trash talk?
/extends olive branch
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 9, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I Agree
I am not here on behalf of BBS or SB, We are here on behalf of Colts fans to talk Colts vs. 49ers and that is it.
Lead organizer of the annual 7 round live mock draft at MtD and Moderator of MtD, AnaheimCalling, and Coltszilla
Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
How much trash talk could you have for a preseason game?
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
We play the Vikings in Pre-Season Week 2. If a pre-season game could elicate a emotional response, it'd be against them.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff
The New and Improved Bay Area Connections:
Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Aug 10, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Trash-talk needs it's own preseason to seperate the starters from the backups.
I wouldn’t want to go into Week 1 against the Texans without my best material locked, cocked and ready to rock. Those guys are freakin’ animals.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Which team in your division
do you hate the most?
by mr. instigator on Aug 10, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
We don't really hate any of the teams in our division.
We mostly feel sorry for them. But if I had to answer I’d say the Tits. They’ve been known to play kinda’ dirty against us and their fans really think they are the greatest team in the universe. Why? I have no idea.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd have to agree
Do not like Titans’ fans.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Aug 10, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Jags.
Dirty team that actually beats the Colts from time to time.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
send them to los angeles.
we will trade you the rams for the jaguars.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
The Tacks.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi.
"If I couldn't play for the Colts, I would probably stop playing football." - Peyton Manning.
by gizzardfanny on Aug 11, 2010 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there an actual olive on that branch?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry...
Olives are for regular season competition only.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
but we are 49ers fans.
we are the wine-and-cheese crowd.
we need olives for our martinis.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you worried your division rivals suffer from “Overtrained Athlete Syndrome”?
by bignerd on Aug 9, 2010 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
hahaha saw that earlier I don't think anything will come of it. And no I have no worry there.
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Well I have had it with Stampede Blue for the time being... Officially Boycotting along with many other regulars.
by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would I be worried about that?
It makes me happy.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
The Colts have been good for many seasons now
however, their O-line last season was nothing to brag about. Great QBs like Peyton Manning have the pocket presence to get rid of the ball before it’s too late, so it can mask pass protection flaws. I did not notice any off-season moves to help the O-line other than releasing Lilja. I thought that was strange because I seem to remember Polian mentioned something about becoming more physical at the line, since the Colts were not very successful running the ball. So my question to you is are you happy with the O-line/not worried about it?
they drafted a guard in the 4th round, but speculation is that he's been pulled out of the competition at guard
to focus on being groomed as Jeff Saturday’s successor at center.
The line is unlikely to be worse than last years, but it’s hard to see a massive improvement with what’s basically the same group of guys, plus a few veteran cast-offs. I think the hope is that Tony Ugoh (former starting LT) finally has his head on straight and will take to his new spot at LG while they’ll get solid play from one of the numerous young interior guys who were lackluster last year, at RG.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Your guy's RG from last year, Kyle Devan
Went to my high school, hopefully he’s still starting this year
I miss Joe Montana/Steve Young/Jeff Garcia
by Mr HowsYourWife on Aug 9, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I like him,
but it looks like Pollak is the RG right now.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Which is sad really.
I always like the underdog, and DeVan really did do quite a bit better than he’s given credit for. As I’ve made the argument before, its Diem that is the weak link in the chain. He basically necessitates a TE to help him block.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
The O-line absolutely scares me to death.
I don’t trust anybody there besides Saturday.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
And Saturday just had surgery.
/commits ritual suicide
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
ritual?
this was planned before he had surgery?
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
As Colts fans...
We always have a nice ritual suicide planned when it comes to our O-line. This harkens back to the days of Jim Harbaugh a.k.a. Capt. Hike the Ball and Run For Your Life.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 4:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Our O-line is the worst in the league
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
No chance
The 49ers OL (sans Iupati and Davis) is atrocious.
Actually ranked 32nd last year.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but have Davis and Iupati now
We were 32nd in running, and it’s all because of the line.
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
you have*
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh
They have to get better then right?
Continuity?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
No.
Our line doesn’t have to get better.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Football Outsiders has some theory on continuity
Gives hope for improvement.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
see sig
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Haha
Is there a way I can change my name on here to that?
by mr. instigator on Aug 9, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that I'm aware of
I poked around a bit and didn’t see any way to do it, but obviously there has to be someone who can do it (Fooch, you listening?)
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I like the new handle. Just don't take it to Stampede Blue.
A mere whiff of instigation will get you the banhammer over there.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
I’m glad our moderators aren’t tyrants
by mr. instigator on Aug 10, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Or to Field Goals
they banned one of NN’s users solely based on his name
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I noticed...
They’re a little uptight around there.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
what was the name?
I know I had seen one but not from NN’s. He had swearing in his username.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The user's name was Rod Blogevich
In reference to the ex Indiana governor
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
interesting. Wasn't the guy I was thinking of.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The Canadian guy?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know who that is
How is that offensive to SEA fans?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You've got to be kidding.
I, amongst many other of the core contributors at Stampede Blue, are officially boycotting the site due to the deplorable "leadership" of head blogger BigBlueShoe. We ask, but do not expect, support, from you, our fellow fans, no matter your team affiliation. The ideals of fairness and respect that are the foundation of this great sport that we all love should not stop at the chalk on the boundaries of the gridiron, but should continue through the fans and beyond. To show your support you may email dhalprin123@gmail.com at SBNation and respectfully ask for the removal of Brad Wells as head blogger of Stampede Blue. Thank You.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
He is being serious
You are better off posting your college homework assignment than anything football related on that blog if you want a conversation.
Of course as soon as the blog owner figures out your screen name is a reference to another non-Seahawk football team he’ll give you the band hammer.
So much for an "Ask a Colts fan," Open thread out of sportsmanship then.
I know we’ve gotten into some heated arguments here, but to be honest this isn’t too bad of a collaboration. You guys didn’t have to accept us here, especially after the BBS tirade, so it is nice to debate with opposing fans, even if it is just for a pre-season game.
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Wow.
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It's not the mods...
Just the head blogger. Everyone else there is cool as hell. You know, one bad apple…
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sadly that's who gives the rep
same case as with BBS
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And that one bad one has to be the head guy.
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Really makes us appreciate Fooch and James here on NN.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
What's the word on a new deal for Peyton?
i know that Polian wants to make him the highest paid player in the league but is there any other news from that end? What’s the feeling among fans? 5 years? 6 years? 4 years?
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Hey haven't gone back to your front page yet but maybe you want to make the post. here is some info on those injuries you had this morning
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Latest-news-from-NFL-training-camps-August
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
and No we don't really have any other info on Peytons contract.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 9, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I would guess 6 years.
The Colts don’t really want to do the new contract until the CBA is resolved. They want to know what rules they’re playing with so they can try their best to get around them.
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Well they can't wait too long
doesn’t his contract expire this year?
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It expires after this season,
but they can also buy some more time buy sticking the franchise tag on him and finishing the contract negotiations during the summer. That’s what happened the last time (2004, I think.).
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What?
That would be like 5x the current highest contract in the league. I love Peyton, but even he is not worth $500 million.
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Probably.
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Two questions for you...
And thanks for doing this.
1) How’s your interior line depth? Obviously, your freakishly fast DE’s are well-documented, but I’m curious who’s on your depth chart on the interior, in terms of getting a feel for watching Iupati take them on.
2) Do you think the Colts would trade Manning for Alex Smith and Kentwan Balmer? They’re both first-round picks, and Smith was number 1 overall, just like Peyton!
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the colts already traded us the pick
that we used on Kentwan Balmer.
i believe they got Tony Ugoh out of that. any winners there?
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by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure
The other 30 teams in the league.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 10, 2010 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, especially the eagles
since we could have taken DeSean Jackson instead.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Taylor Mays will play bump and run on DeSean all day
and mostly nullify him. Mays is the only guy on the team that can run with DeSean. He plays right on the line of scrimmage and jams him hard enough to knock him on his 175 pound butt every play. If, and probably when he gets beaten, it will be up to the other 2 safeties to try to defend. Should they fail, Taylor might not be able to break up the pass; however, what he can do is swat DeSean’s hands so hard he literally tears his little girly arms off and then Mays can secure the ensuing fumble.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Aug 10, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
seems a bit overly optimistic.
desean has already proven himself at the nfl level, while taylor mays is still a second stringer waiting for his first preseason game.
and taylor mays isnt exactly known for playing bump-and-run right on the line of scrimmage. he played so far off the line in college that you could see him from sarah palin’s house.
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by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want Peyton
He has a playoff QB rating of like 72, sorry, not interested in winning the regular season..
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 10, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions
87.6.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00/splits/
Do some research next time you throw numbers out.
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I stand corrected
So he’s won .500 of his playoff games and has been as good as Joe Flacco and Kyle Orton were last year over the course of his playoff career. Still a pretty significant drop off in play from regular season to playoffs. I’d rather have a QB that’s better in big games.
Interesting tidbits:
just started looking at QBs that I know had logged a lot of playoff games and Terry Bradshaw had one of the best improvements from regular season to playoff QB ratings, a 12 point difference.
Brady’s regular season and playoff ratings are almost identical to Manning’s over their careers.
Steve Young’s numbers were very close to Manning and Brady’s and looking back Young had a great career, but he did lay quite a few eggs in the playoffs.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions
It makes sense...
That QB ratings should drop in the playoffs. The regular season schedule has a lot of crap teams to inflate a QB’s stats. Most playoff-caliber teams’ defenses won’t allow for scores like 51-45 (ahem, Cards and Packers).
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a fair point
And last year’s playoff run and SB were in my opinion the best Peyton has played over a post-season so I’m sure that helped his playoff stats.. I’ve made this point on a post on your boards before too, but as dominant as the Colts have been the last decade, really they’ve been even better than the Patriots in the regular season, they should have more rings and I think Peyton playing poorly in some key games is a big reason. In fairness I’d make the same criticism of Steve Young, but I know that’s going back an era.
Manning hasn’t blown his team’s chances to the extent that McNabb thew away Eagle playoff games and Romo is also on pace to be remembered for some serious choke artistry, I’m not putting Manning in that category.. I just don’t want to see his name mentioned in the same breath as Montana or Johnny U unless he puts together a playoff and SB winning run where his excellence is the reason for his team’s success in the playoffs rather than them winning despite his bad play (Chiefs wildcard game). It also annoyed me that he got so much credit during the Colt’s SB (winning) run and it was so undeserved because of the way those games played out.
A guy who’s played in the same time as Manning who I think should be rated higher is Kurt Warner, he’s just done more with less and his play has been best in the biggest games. He’s not nearly as funny as Manning is in commercials though and I find his faith annoying, so overall I like Manning better, but given a choice between the two of them in their prime, I’d take Warner. I’d also take Brees over Manning on any given Sunday right now and most especially in the playoffs.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions
About Warner over Peyton:
http://18to88.com/oldarticles/old-articles/apples_to_apples_debunking_cold_hard_football_facts.html
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Good read and it makes some fair points. Some of it, in my opinion is just Manning apologist though and I think it has some of the same logic flaws that it’s accusing another article of and a lot of the evidence presented is anecdotal.
Examples:
First the article says this: “Kurt Warner is 48-37 for a .565 winning %. Manning is 105-55 for a mark of .656. Manning’s team have made the playoffs in 9 of his 11 seasons. Warner’s team’s have made the playoffs 4 of his 9 seasons (although in 2003 he only started 2 games for the playoff bound Rams which I didn’t count in either category).”
Later is says this: "The irony of these stats is that while Warner’s teams are 8-2 in the playoffs, Manning’s teams only went 6-4 in these 10 games. So Manning played BETTER than a guy who went 8-2, but his teams still lost. "
I shouldn’t need to explain the conflict between these statments.
Also: “The sample sizes are so small as to be meaningless. We’ve talked about this a lot, and you either accept it or you don’t. No one would claim that one QB is definitively better than another after 10 games, but that’s what CHFF does here. In fact, the sample sizes are so small, that one bad game by Warner could completely alter the numbers. If he has a bad game against Pittsburgh next week, his QB rating could easily plummet by 5-7 points.”
This is ridiculous. Athletes are and always have been defined by what they do on the largest stage in their sport, nobody cares who the fastest track guy is in practice, it’s whether you win the gold medal. “Sample size too small”… So Olympic athletes shouldn’t be judged by how they do in the Olympics because that’s such a small sample of their races? Give me a break, you can’t really believe that? Close your eyes and pretend we’re not talking about Peyton…you don’t really believe that do you?
Than there’s the Warner was injured more comparison.. News flash, Warner got hit a lot more than Manning, this article makes no mention of Manning’s superior offensive line..this article makes no mention of any information that might run counter to it’s theory. No mention of all that Warner played for an offensive coordinator who is well known to ask his QBs to hold the ball forever and take monster hits.
I can’t believe I’m defending Warner, I really don’t even like Warner, I hate the Rams, I hate Arizona and I’m not a huge fan of evangelical Christianity…anyway…
The AFC is a harder conference so Manning played against better competition…The Colts were a better team so he played with better competition too.
I know the article you’re referencing is a response to a perhaps biased article, but it’s pretty obviously biased as well.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
OK.
1. Where’s the conflict? Peyton played better in that set of 10 games, yet the Colts lost 2 more games. Are you trying to say that it’s a conflict to say that the QB played better but lost more? I hope not.
2. Yes, I do believe it. First of all, this is not track. Even so, there are hundreds of other races every year that the track athletes participate in. They are judged by how they do in those too.
I don’t care if we’re talking about Peyton, Brady, Warner, or Ryan Leaf, you CANNOT judge how good a QB is and who is better by taking an extremely small slice of his games and shining a spotlight on it. You will never get me to say anything otherwise no matter how you twist the words around.
3. Peyton’s good offensive line ended after the 2006 season when Tarik Glenn retired.
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In his prime Glenn was the most underrated O-Lineman in the league. Than again, I think Saturday is over-rated.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
First part is true,
second part is false. Saturday is great and the only reason Peyton isn’t dead right now.
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He’s smart and by all accounts great at QBing the line. He get’s pushed around at the point on run plays more than someone rated as highly as he is should.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree,
but that kind of thing is really personal opinion based on our eyes. No way to prove it either way.
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You also think you know everything about football. But you don't!
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I think I know everything about everything. I mean, I know I’m wrong, but I think I’m right..follow?
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s really no reconcile to a difference of opinion on whether postseason play should be weighed heavier than regular season play. All I can say is that I’m glad Montana and Rice were EVEN BETTER in the post-season than the regular season because it was awesome growing up to five super bowls (yes, I know he ONLY won four of them).
On the subject of guys who Quarterbacked four winning SBs, Bradshaw also had a QB rating about 10 points higher in the postseason. Granted his regular season rating was around 70, but still he played his best in the post season and has four rings.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
But then you'd still rather have Peyton than Bradshaw wouldn't you?
Even if you accepted the existence of Clutch performance it’d be better to have a QB with a 95 QBR in the regular season and 88 in the playoffs than one with a 70 in the regular season and a 80 in the playoffs.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I was going to say, if you are wanting "Clutch" then...
you should really look at 4th quarter comebacks. That is a display of extreme pressure where the play of a single player like the QB actually can be reflected.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
looking at 4th quarter comebacks
is a good way to find a QB who gets off to a slow start.
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I'm going to pass on this question
Because Bradshaw was before my time. There could be an argument made that all QB ratings were much lower in Bradshaw’s day, but I don’t care enough about this issue to do the research necessary to see if that’s even a good argument. I also don’t really know how good the pieces around Bradshaw were.
I will say that I’d want whoever I thought would give my team the best chance to win the Super Bowl so if Manning’s 87 in this era is better than Bradshaw’s 80 in the 70s than yes, I’d rather have Manning. If an 80 in the seventies is relatively more impressive, than Bradshaw gets the nod.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 12, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
my problem with clutch as a commonly used concept is expressed in my sig
I think 192 games is a much better sample to evaluate based off of than 18. It’s not unreasonable to think that one playoff game tells you more than one regular season game given the higher level of competition and lack of anything being held in reserve, but I think it’s absurd to weigh less than two dozen games as anywhere close to as telling as nearly 200.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Kurt Warner has done more with less?
he never made a Super Bowl without an elite pair of wide receivers. not just one elite guy or two pretty good WRs or even one elite WR and one good one. we’re talking either Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce or Fitz and Bolden. not to mention Marshall Faulk was on two of his three SB squads.
no matter what he did with it, that doesn’t sound like he had “less” to me.
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by these3words on Aug 11, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Correct.
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Seriously
Manning has done more with less, though Kurt is one of the greats.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Also,
just using rating as an indicator of how a QB did in the playoffs isn’t good. QB play is way too complex to quantify with one convenient stat.
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I agree
I’ve watched him play badly in the playoffs.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
And I've watched him have some of his best performances in the playoffs,
including, but not limited to:
2003 Denver and @ Kansas City
2004 Denver
2006 @ Baltimore and Patriots
2007 Chargers
2008 @ Chargers
2009 Baltimore, Jets
See, I can cherry-pick stuff that supports my theory too.
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He shouldn’t be mentioned among the best that have played the game with an 8-8 playoff record and an 82 playoff QB rating. He shouldn’t get a pass for being the primary reason his team exited the playoffs so many times or for performing better in the regular season than the playoffs. The greatest players play their best games in the postseason and their stats reflect it.
I’ll concede that he’s played some very nice playoff games, but overall he’s been pretty unspectacular in the playoffs by tangible measures.
Let me ask you this, starting with the premise that the Colts have been at least as good as the Patriots for the last decade, why do you think the Colts only have one SB win?
Next question. If Manning had played as well as Drew Brees (spectacular) and if Brees had played as well as Manning (solid, but not spectacular) do you think that the Colts would have won the SB last year?
The year that the Colts won the SB, do you think they still would have won all three playoff games and the SB if Peyton had been injured in the first quarter of that awful, awful game against the Chiefs and Sorgi had had to play out the stretch?
Again, just opinion, but I think if the Colts had an “average” QB, they’d still have the same one SB win they have now.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
1. Isn’t worth awensering.
2. D and teams they had to go through. Look you should no better than to think the best team always wins cause they don’t. Again Talent doesn’t = championships and rings, Execution with talent does.
3. not sure why im awenering but No I don’t think so. I will argue that the QB play wasn’t the deciding factor in that game. It was injuries and defense. Both QB’s did play well and don’t even dare to bring up that last interception wise your more ignorant than I thought.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
1. If it’s not worth awensering than can you at least answer the question, I guess you misunderstood me, I wasn’t asking for awensers.
Sorry man, but if you make it that easy to make fun of you….
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh..
And about that last interception that I’m not supposed to bring up..why is that? Interceptions in super bowls are only bad if QBs not named Peyton throw them?
Am I being mean to Peyton?
Are you going to cry now?
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at my #7 below.
And you’re being very condescending.
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True
But I wasn’t being condescending to you, I was being condescending to the guy who didn’t think my question was worth “awensering”..
I mean the interface underlines misspelled words in red..it’s not that tough.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
.......
1. QB’s aren’t responsible for wins and losses. Teams are.
2. 87.6. I posted the number a few comments up. Get it right.
3. He’s not the primary reason for the Colts exiting the playoffs in any game but the 2003 Pats game whether or not you want to believe that.
4. The best players give it their all every game, not just the postseason.
5. By tangible measures, you mean 2 stats?
6. I’m not going to accept that premise, because that premise is false. The Patriots were the better team from 2001-2004 and 2007, both in the regular season and in the playoffs. The first time the Colts were better than them was in 2005. I not going to answer a question based on a false premise.
7. Once again, a question based on a false premise. Peyton was spectacular in the playoffs and Super Bowl last year. You can bring up the pick-6 all you want, but that was Reggie’s fault (not my opinion: http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2010/2/19/1302008/rufios-playbook-breaking-down). Peyton was great in that game.
8. WHAT?!?!?! You think Jim Sorgi would have beaten the Ravens or Patriots? Did you watch those games? The Ravens and Pats were both really good teams that year. Sorgi (or an average QB like Orton or Shaun Hill) wouldn’t have stood a chance against them.
9. That’s a load of crap.
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This guys is saying more outrageous things each time lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
The biggest thing is that the Colts offense was better than the Pats O for a long time
But our D was soooooooo much worse than the Pats D that the overall difference was that the pats were an overall better team.
Eventually both the O and D of the Pats declined enough that we passed them in recent years.
Also, the Super Bowl play from Manning was superb. He was completely on his game. The Receivers on the other hand, were not. They dropped alot more passes overall and no one proved to be a reliable outlet that game. Our Defense was also a massive mess. If our D had been healthier, we could have made up for our receivers. If our receivers had played better, we could have made up for our D. Manning had the passes on target and in the hands of the receivers. He did his job, the receivers didn’t.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Right on both counts.
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I'll buy this
I’m sure you guys watch more AFC games than I do and obviously more Colts games. Hey, if Colts fans are saying the Pats were a better team..not going to argue that one. And I guess if you guys are happy with your one SB, that’s cool..just seems low for all those great teams and first round byes. The Colts have won the most regular season games in the last 10 years though and set a decade record for 115 wins..but whatever, I’m really not arguing with Colt fans that the Colts were the best team of the decade..will you guys settle for second?
I honestly don’t know who the guy who wrote this is and was just trying to verify that the Colts had won the most games, but since he supports my point I’ll bless his journalism credentials and agree with him.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Link wouldnt post
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/01/07/nfl-standings-for-the-decade-colts-patriots-are-the-best-lion/
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Eh, no we claim best of the decade.
Years when we weren’t overall better than the Pats (like losing playoff games becuase our D couldn’t do jack), we were number 2. Then when we passed the Pats we stayed on top. When the pats dropped, they dropped well out of second.
We accept that we weren’t as good as the pats at the beginning of Mannings career because our defense just wasn’t there. The Pats leaned on their D heavily. The Colts had to lean on our O. We are happy with our SB win, but we aren’t content. Every year Manning steps on the field we expect to have a good shot at a Super Bowl. We are hopeful this year because our defense is finally healthy to start a season, which was key to our SB victory, and last years SB loss. The health of our Defense makes or breaks our post-season aspirations.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Well said.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
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You really can't claim team of the decade....
60s: Packers
70s: Steelers
80s: Niners
90s: Cowboys
Why? Those teams won the most championships in a given decade. The 00s belong to the Patriots. 3 Super Bowl titles with a 4th AFC Championship.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Some of the best race horses during their career
Never won a Triple Crown. Some of the best international soccer teams didn’t come out with a World Cup title. In every sport there is a great deal of luck. The reason the Colts are the best team of the 00’s is because they succeeded DESPITE our deficiency at D. We won the most games in any decade because of the greatness of our team as a whole. Our Defense was a liability, while our offense was the single best in the league, but as a team we pulled out each and every win possible as a TEAM, either on the back of our defense, or on a final defensive stop. THAT is why the Colts are the best.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Dude that's like saying
The Bills were the team of the 90’s.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
If you are going to base the "best" off of a single games performance
Especially given the fact you’ve got over 100 different pieces to the puzzle all making an impact on the result, then you might as well just pick a single game out of a hat and compare that. Who has the most super bowls in a given decade? You might as well have said, “Who has won the most week 12 games in the past decade?” The Super Bowl is a single game. It is a single point of data. The “Best,” in a DECADE requires alot more consideration than a single point of data.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
by Jamkel on Aug 11, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd.
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Wow
Just wow. YOU PLAY TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS!
Not 12 win seasons. You just marginalized the reason teams play the game, the Super Bowl. It’s JUST ONE GAME? Again with that logic, the 2007 Patriots must be the BEST TEAM EVER???
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the best.
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because of the nature of football
a single game elimination playoffs is the best actually do-able way to decide a champion.
I find it hard to doubt though, that if it was realistic to play series or double elim, or just replay the single elim with the same teams, that you wouldn’t sometimes get different champions than what came out of 1 run of single elim.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, how is that my logic?
The 2007 Patriots had a weak bottom half schedule, and only barely beat a Colts team that a ton of injuries. Honestly, last years colts team was more impressive than the 2007 Pats team in my opinion.
Also, Who doesn’t play every game to WIN. The desire to win any single game is no less than any other game. The difference is the repercussions.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
LOL that's INSANE!
The ‘07 Pats were a thousand times more impressive than the ’09 Colts. They both lost the SB so that’s a wash. But winning that many games straight in the NFL is downright impressive.
BUT you play to win the SB, so the Pats had the worst collapse ever when they lost to the Giants. I’d rather see my team go 10-6 and lose in the WC round than go 16-0 and lose in the SB like that…..
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How were the pats more impressive?
They played a weak schedule, ran up the score on the weakest of the guys, and had good health through the season.
The Colts played a tough schedule, had tons of injuries, AND didn’t even really play the final 2 games, meaning they effectively had the same record as the ’07 Pats. The Colts achieved more with less, and are therefore more impressive.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Neither were the '89 49ers
End of discussion. The ’07 made it to the SB hiding their defense. The ’09 Colts made it to the SB hiding the sudden lack of explosiveness in their offense.
I would have taken to the ’04 Pats and ’06 Colts over either of those squads.
Winning the SB
Is the point of the NFL, that’s what the teams are trying to do. I’m not going to say you’re “wrong” because all this is opinion, but I don’t think many fans outside of Indy think the SB is just another game..
Super Bowls are the measure of success in the NFL.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 12, 2010 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions
You beat the Pats by 3 games
3 games does not decide the crown when the Pats won twice the AFC titles and 2 more Super Bowls.
You play to win Super Bowls, not win the most regular season games.
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THANK YOU!
This is seriously getting silly, I mean to say the Colts are the team of the decade, when the Pats and Steelers had more successful seasons is ludicrous!
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
extreme hypothetical
over a decade, team A wins 14+ games every season, but only 2 titles. Team B had 7 years in which they went 0-16, but won 3 titles in the remaining years.
Which team had the better decade?
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Team B
More SUCCESSFUL seasons
If your standard of SUCCESS = Super Bowl.
If not, then it could be team A. Depends on what you consider a SUCCESS. All 32 teams are vying for the SB. That’s the REASON you play. So team A winning 2 vs team B winning 3, that’s case closed.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I find that silly
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
regular season and pre-SB wins are successes in-themselves
not merely a means to winning a title
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
So..
You would forsake a SB season for a 14 game win season and no SB?
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The Chargers think...
nothing is wrong with not winning in the playoffs. #chargerjokesarealwaysfunny
"Lord, beer me strength."
no
because entailed in that SB option is at least an 8 win season.
I would take perennial contention with less titles over more titles with the team an abject failure in most/all other seasons.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
A title is worth more than a regular season win
or even several/many regular season wins, but I think there’s a point where more years of regular season success can outweigh less titles.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Because you
define success and failure differently than I do.
Success = SB title
Failure = anything less
by my logic those 14+ win seasons are just as much a failure as an 0-16 season. I ADMIT, that the 14+ win seasons would make more money and attract more viewership and be more exciting, but a failure is a failure.
I wonder if the Bills fans would give up 3 of their “successful” SB losses for 1win??
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions
and I think that's ridiculous
Would you prefer the Niners go 2-14 or 10-6 (without a title)?
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Even if no title is considered failure there then has to be varying degrees of failure, unless he’s trying to say that we were no better than the Rams last year. If that’s the case why not give us the first pick in the draft, I mean, we obviously failed just as bad as the Rams did, right?
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
but the question is how many reg. season wins is a SB title worth?
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
10-6 of course
But that’s for so many reasons. How many reg. season wins would you say is equivalent to a SB title?
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
If it was based solely on number of titles won then
wouldn’t it be called “the title’s champion of the decade”? Not “The team of the decade”? It is about more than the championships.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not
denying the value to stats other than SBs. I’m saying let’s say you have two teams with 3 SB wins in a decade each. Then you can look at the rest of the stuff as a tie breaker. But you gotta START with SB titles, no matter how crappy the other seasons were.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
So again, you think Team B is a better team of the decade choice
even if they had 8 winless seasons?
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
MR I before you awenser we are talking about the decade not just a few seasons.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
well even with the most generous interpretation of the Team A vs Team B hypothetical
You set the exchange rate at over 130 regular season wins for 1 title.
Team A had 1 less title but 130 more wins (14*10-16*2)
I would set it far below that.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here.
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Conversely
If you were a player would you rather be on a team that goes 16-0 each season for 10 years straight but loses in the first round every year, or be on 9 straight 0-16 teams but win the SB in the 10th?
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Id go with A.
And I think the majority of players would as well. No one wants to be on a team that constantly is like the Lions or Rams. Also there is a greater chance of team A winning it all the 11th year than the B team winning another one in the next 5.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd probably rip my hair out in frustration from either
but I’d take A. I’d rather always fall short of the final goal than be an abject failure for almost a decade before a miracle run.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll take a miracle
I’d rather be a champion once and a loser 9 times over than simply mediocre for my whole career.
Actually it would probably be so much more painful to be on those 16-0 teams and fall short 10 years in a row.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Well obviously not even 16 wins = 1 SB win
Just ask the Pats….
It is a non-equitable equation. There are no amount of regular season wins that equal a super bowl win.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
My point.
So why would anyone chose 1 less SB win during a decade in exchange for more reg. season wins? THANK YOU!
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Because you haven't had a SB win in 16 years!
So I’ll excuse you. When you are struggling to just get REGULAR SEASON wins, I’ll forgive you for simply aiming high and saying that one SB win is all that matters. Why do you think nearly every other professional league around the world has 2 championships?
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Even take this case...
Who was the better team last year, the Bengals, or the Jets?
Obviously the Bengals. They were consistently better week after week, but the Jets got lucky, not because they were better, but because they happened to get favorable circumstances. If you are going to value titles, then the Jets were obviously “better,” but if you are going to value actual play, then the Bengals took that title.
Why do you think the BCS is a load of bull? If all you value is titles, then lets just stop playing the regular season and pick the 2 teams we think are the best and play a championship.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
careful now, I think that's a bad example
By DVOA or Pthag Wins the Jets were a much superior team.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Don
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't forget the head-to-head.
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I couldn't think of any other close examples.
Every example is going to have problems. The fact that the Bengals faded at the end of the year is the wrinkle in this, but then again, the Colts could have put the Jets away for the Season, so they were 1 colts decision away from sitting out the post-season.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Logic doesn't apply to some of these guys.
:(
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
No one is believing his regular season win argument besides him.
BTW, who does he think he is talking to? He’s trying to lecture a fan base that spent close 20 years watching their team compete for a SB. Listen tad pole, we aren’t the Jags or Texan fans who can barely comprehend the playoffs.
We’ve been on the perennial playoff contender ship for a much longer ride and can unequivocally state that winning SB’s is all that matters. The 49ers have flushed down twice as many winning seasons as these Colts and their isn’t a single silver lining to brag about or cling onto.
Looks like we are done talking lol.
I mean seriously if you believe that in that sinario that team B is better then I must say that is very dumb and I think you will find almost no one would agree with you.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
But that's not the situation
You have one team with 115 regular season wins, 2 conference titles, and 1 Super Bowl title.
You have another with 112 regular season wins, 4 conference titles, and 3 Super Bowl rings.
Honestly, it’s not even close. That’s not to discredit the Colts who were quite successful, but the Patriots had a more successful decade that is on par with the 60s Packers, the 70s Steelers, the 80s 49ers, and the 90s Cowboys….all who won tons of games and multiple championships.
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I know it's not
I’m just seeing if Mr. I would take his high valuation of titles to an absurd conclusion.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the argument that should
be debated, not the extreme hypothetical. That being said, the Bills went to 4 straight and lost.. That’s EXTREME. But a loss is a loss. It wasn’t a successful season. The Bills can’t claim team of the 90’s because they DIDN’T HAVE A SUCCESSFUL SEASON. Was it a good run? sure.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
According to his scale it would be . . .
60’s Colts
70’s Raiders
80’s Broncos (I’d dunno)
90’s Bills
00’s Eagles
Finally a sane poster. I was battling the Coltards all by my self!
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope.
I’d have this argument with you every year, even after the 2006 season.
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Being right is not a battle and it’s not a popularity contest, when you call people “Coltards” it reflects poorly on your ability to form an argument, reflects poorly on you and weakens your arguments.
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 12, 2010 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Knock it off
You’re the most condescending poster here. I was joking around anyway. Go play in traffic.
by mr. instigator on Aug 12, 2010 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Because traffic is so fun!
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Truth hurt much?
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 12, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a silly and extreme hypothetical
But I’d still go with team B because they won more Super Bowls. What the hell is team A’s problem? Seems like they must choke in the playoffs a lot..
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by Johnnysixnut on Aug 12, 2010 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe its because you guys are in a down time for your franchise...
But the philosophy that you only have to win 1 game to be considered “great,” obviously hasn’t done you guys well. You NEED to win atleast 10 games to get into the playoffs, and you need to win atleast another couple to get to that one game. If you go in with the philosophy that winning any single game doesn’t matter so long as you win that last one is complete bull.
There is so much more to winning a championship than just winning A SINGLE game. Thats why I said you might as well say, “Who has the best record in week 12 games?” because a win is a win is a win. Where it comes, how it comes, etc is beyond the point. If you are going to base your whole mentality off of 1 set of games, then you are deluding yourselves.
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by Jamkel on Aug 11, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't base it on one game.
I compared the resumes. The Colts had 3 more regular season wins, but the Patriots won 2 more conference and Super Bowl championships which push them over the top.
Great run by the Colts, but to say that the Colts are the team of the decade based on 3 more regular season wins (despite 2 fewer Super Bowl titles)….honestly, I can’t see how that argument even works.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I don't really care about team of the decade
Colts are clearly the team of the last half-decade though!!!! WOOOO!!!
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
HAHA
right after the Steelers, sure..
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
so the Colts winning 15 more games and making the playoffs twice more
doesn’t make up for the difference in winning vs losing a Superbowl?
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell no.
Again, the purpose of playing a season is to win the SB. Your extreme example aside, you can’t marginalize the importance of a SB like that… It’s not like the Steelers had these horrible seasons, they were pretty much contenders the last 5 years, and one twice as many SB as colts.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe we just look at the game differently on this
I’d rather watch a constant contender that didn’t breakthrough as much as you’d like vs a team that was often sub-par with major breakthroughs.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
The purpose of every team is not to win the Super Bowl
The Rams? I’m sure they’d like to win 4 games.
The Lions? 6+ Wins.
The Jaguars? Staying Jacksonville. /zing.
The Texans? Making the friggin’ playoffs.
The Colts? Win a Super Bowl.
Everyone says SB or bust, but fans have more realistic expectations.
In the case of team of the decade, you start at Super Bowls. Successful season is different though.
The 2000s Colts are successful, but I’m sure the fans would trade 115 wins and 1 ring for the Pats 112 and 3.
"Lord, beer me strength."
And that's where the argument has deviated it seems
Team of the decade versus successful season(s).
"Lord, beer me strength."
Right
I’m coming from a perspective of a fan that EXPECTED a SB each year. If not, it really was a huge disappointment. Each team WANTS to win the SB, do they Anticipate it? No way, but that’s the nature of sports. Make no mistake, each team suits up week 1 because there’s that prize that the just might get..
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Even Organizations not just fans have different goals.
If the Rams were to give you an honest awnser they wouldn’t say they are aiming for a superbowl this year or were last year. They have a goal of probably .500 or at most playoffs but not SB. They know its not an attainable goal this year.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I would
of course only in the sense of swapping successes. I couldn’t stomach rooting for the f’ing Pats.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you also take a look at SOS?
The Pats have had a weak schedule year after year. Winning games is easier when you play worse teams. The Colts won 3 more games while playing CONSISTENTLY tougher competition than both the patriots and steelers.
Whats more impressive, Florida’s NCAAF titles, or Mount Union’s? Florida played tougher competition so obviously they are better than Mt. Union.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
That's college and why ...
… there has never been a true champion , and that’s why the colt’s come up short of being team of the decade
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
Seems like a wanting cake and eating it too thing..
And what a stupid expression that is. Why would anyone want cake if they didn’t want to eat it?
Anyway, yeah, I don’t think you can have it both ways. Than again, it’s your mind, think whatever makes you happy and I can think you’re wrong.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 12, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
87 rating, typo
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 11, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
an 8-8 playoff record is not that bad.
it’s extremely difficult to have a winning record in the playoffs when you frequently have a playoff bye week, as the Colts have over the past decade.
without playing in wildcard weekend, you would have to win your conference and make it to the super bowl just to have a winning record in that year’s playoffs.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
True.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Hooray for the voice of reason!
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Correct, an 8-8 record is not "that bad"
It’s just not “that good” either. If you’re the best team in the decade in the regular season than you should be able to pull off a better record than .500 in the postseason. Now if you’re the 3rd or 4th best team in your conference for a decade than a .500 record in the postseason would be about what’s expected.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 12, 2010 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm, interior line?
1) Well, oddly enough, we aren’t sure. Technically we’ve had some movement of DTs to DE according to our initial depth chart, but we are hoping that was just a drunken tirade by a secretary.
As for the real depth, we’ve got Antonio Johnson and Daniel Muir. They are… Solid, i guess you could say. They provide basically 0 pass rush up the middle, but tend to clog the line. Our problem in the running game tends to be when there are late hand offs because Mathis and Freeney can get so far out of place that its only Mookie (Johnson) and Muir there to stop the run. That means a LB or safety (Sanders now) has to come up to make the play.
we are also hoping that Fili Moala out of USC will break the USC curse and mature enough to take over as our 3rd DT in the rotation. Currently Eric Foster is our 3rd DT, but he is kind of like Brock in that he is all of 265 lbs. or so, but is just a little slower than Mathis, making him a hybrid, but more of a pass rushing threat up the middle.
2) No. Polian will get Peytons replacement in a year or two and we’ll have our own Aaron Rodgers waiting in the wings when Peyton decides he’s had enough.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
clarification
Interior DEFENSIVE line depth….ah, the wonders of proof reading
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
the starters Antonio "Mookie" Johnson and Daniel Muir are solid but nothing special
behind them there’s Eric Foster who is undersized and playing a lot of end recently, but can be disruptive up the middle. Fili Moala, last years 2nd rounder wasn’t much of a factor last year, but his offseason progress has been talked up quite a bit and he’s got all the talent to be a big time contributor. The last guy I’ll throw in is Mitch King. He was a stud, 4 year starter at DT for Iowa. Didn’t catch on with the Titans as an undrafted FA last year but he fits what Indy does. He’s still a bit small, but not as undersized as Foster. He lived in the opponents’ backfield while he was at Iowa and I’m hoping he can replicate some of that as a disruptive 3-tech as he learns the system.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Do you think you guys fixed the o-line issues that bothered you during the Super Bowl
especially in reference to the comments that were made about getting pushed around?
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
I don't think it's irrational to think the OL will be better
but it’d be a tough sell that they’ll be a lot better given that they didn’t add much. Ugoh taking to his new position at guard and/or some of the young guards from last year making a leap definitely could offset cutting Lilja and Saturday/Diem being a year older, but no one reasonable is expecting elite line play.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
Brandstater
Do you think he’ll get significant playing time? He has only been there for a few weeks. And don’t you have something like 4 or 5 QB’s in camp?
We've got Peyton, Painter, Hiller, and Bradstater.
I doubt you’ll see Brandstater as Painter needs a lot of time and Hiller seems to be above him in the depth chart.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
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Why does Painter need time?
For his semi-pro league he’ll be playing in this year?
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
that's not fair.
he might make it as a backup to JaMarcus Russell for the Omaha Nighthawks. they’re a full-time pro team, right?
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Just to clarify, CH's comments do not reflect Colts opinion.
He is an adament hater of Purdue and everything to come out of the school, so take his words with a grain of salt.
As for Painter, He has the arm and accuracy of alot of the 2009 first round QBs, he just has a major case of the jitters. His problem is completely mental. His technique and method is what we’d like, but we’ve got to break him of his fears. Thats why he’ll see significant time, especially with some first teamers. Hopefully we can build his confidence, and with Polian saying he’s our number 2 guy already that can help with the pressure. Painter has serious upside, but he is very delicate in terms of pressure, and I’m actually afraid week 16 will have completely ruined Painter as an NFL QB.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
And to further clarify...
CH is a Notre Dame-loving nancy-boy.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 4:48 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL.
Painter’s not going anywhere right now. He did look awful at the Blue & White game though.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
He blows
Hiller is going to win the job.
And quit Cassing a thread on another site. I’m sorry, people. That’s why we usually don’t let him out of our threads.
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
Guess we got to get some new locks huh. Ill get on it.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
try running an electric current through them.
more effective? maybe. more entertaining? yes.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
very good idea.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Wah wah.......
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Since it's pre-season...
the outcome is meaningless. As a Niner fan, I know what I want to see (something promising from Alex Smith, the rookie 1st rounders performing well, and Taylor Mays)…..so what do Colts fans want to see out of their team?
"Lord, beer me strength."
A Niner fan?
Aren’t you a Texans fan? I know that I’ve seen you at BRB frequently.
Oh, and I want to see a healthy defense, accurate kicking by Vinny, and some competence out of our O-line.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Are you interested/excited to see Anthony Gonzalez?
I liked him coming out of college and he was doing fairly well before getting injured. How is his recovery going? He should see a good amount of time in this game, right?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Aug 10, 2010 2:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I seriously doubt...
He’ll see a lot of time in the 1st preseason game. His recovery seems to be complete as he has been seeing a lot of reps at training camp. However, I think the Colts will probably try to slowly ease him into it the 1st couple of preseason games. From what I’ve heard he’s been looking pretty damn good at camp, though.
We’ve got quite a few talented guys fighting for that 5th receiver spot after Wayne/Gonzalez/Garcon/Collie. I have a feeling we’ll be seeing a lot of 2nd-stringers after that first series.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Is AGON
your clear #2, or has he been supplanted by Garcon/Collie?
by mr. instigator on Aug 10, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Oooh...
Touchy subject amongst some of us Colts fans there. First off, Collie is pretty much going to be nothing more than a slot receiver for the time being. Secondly, there seems to be a lot of debate as to whether Garcon or Gonzo will emerge as the #2 receiver coming out of preseason. I, personally, believe (and I DO NOT have any magical inside “sources” to quote on this) that if Gonzo is healthy he will emerge the #2 receiver. Garcon has some awesome speed and a nasty disposition (he may be one of the best blocking WR’s in the league behind Hines Ward), but there’s been a lot of concern about his hands. They seem to be made of a hard rock-like substance that doesn’t appear to be primarily designed for gripping a football so much as they are for stiff-arming guys in their faces and knocking them out. If he could get beyond those dropsies and all the illegal blocking penalties, though, and Gonzo comes up looking healthy then we’ve got a serious situation on our hands…
It’s called wide receiver heaven.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I see. I thought Gonzo would be #2
by mr. instigator on Aug 10, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
this
is the winner comment of the thread, especially with the user ID
How can you not love a team that does this?
yes the new ID :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
yea just be careful wise you may get banned easier on other blogs lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I rarely visit the other blogs to post
If they’re so sensitive to ban me then I probably wouldn’t have cared to post there anyway.
by mr. instigator on Aug 10, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
No my point is that your handle along with you being one to it seems at times stir up emotions that are negative could make you quicker to be warned/ banned.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Rec this!
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi.
"If I couldn't play for the Colts, I would probably stop playing football." - Peyton Manning.
by gizzardfanny on Aug 11, 2010 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't Gonzo have like a 70% catch thing?
I read it somewhere, and if it’s true…amazing.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
72% in 2008 I think
Like 5th in the league.
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Woah
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
In 2007 as primarily a deep threat he had 67%
in 2008 playing 4th option (Behind Wayne, Clark, and Harrison) he had a 70.4% including playoffs, which was 3rd in the league behind Welker and Hillard (TB).
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
I agree.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Both
I’m not big on dual fan-dom, but this was an unavoidable case.
Niners fan from birth (Due to California family and a huge undying love for the GOAT). However, growing up in Houston and seeing a team built from the ground-up….you can’t help but get into it.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Think'n they want to see ...
… better special team’s play … especially the onside kick’n part …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
Hank Baskett is already gone.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
I always do.
I don’t like missing anything, and I have no life.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
I feel ya ...
… i juz now got cable after 15 month’s of not having it … i did seem too roam the blog’s a bit …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
yep thats how he rolls. He does this in 1000 plus comment threads also. He is odd.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I never claimed to be normal.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
good cause...
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Guns is projected to be our Kick Returner, so crossing our fingers.
If he can get 25 YPR in 20 degree weather and 6 inches of snow, I’ll be interested to see what he can do normally.
Also, it may be touchy, but it was leaked a while back that the colts had been pondering replacing Baskett with Guns, which may have made a significant difference, because who is gonna mess with this guy…
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/95107/samuelgiguere.jpg
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
For you non-Colts fans...
Guns=Sam Giguere
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 4:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks PUD :-)
I forgot to put the explanation in there. We call Giguere “Guns,” because of the picture I linked.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
I want to see the Colts
exit the pre-season with no more injuries
How can you not love a team that does this?
I second this
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
We want to see Manning own for the limited time he's out there...
And then we want Painter to throw less then 2 picks during the game. Just avoiding the ball getting into opposing hands with him would be a step up.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
don't feel too bad if he throws a lot of picks.
Niner’s defense was a takeaway machine at times last year.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2009-12-31/49ers-defense-on-takeaway-spree
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
He threw 3 picks to the same guy in a mock scrimmage.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
ouch.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 12, 2010 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Newton.
An undrafted safety from Buffalo. Sigh.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
do you think mike newton will make the team?
maybe ahead of curtis painter on the depth chart at QB?
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 12, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
Newton is a safety. Why would he affect Painter’s status? Painter isn’t going anywhere though, BTW.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
it was a joke.
i was saying that if curtis painter throws 3 INTs to the same undrafted safety in a mock scrimmage, then maybe even that safety would be a better QB than him.
i don’t actually expect a safety to be put on the QB depth chart, no matter where curtis painter is.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 12, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh.
Make your jokes better next time then.
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Ouch!
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
how's this one:
your momma’s so fat, she fell over sideways in the ocean once, and they left her there and called her Australia.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Nope.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
its hard to please some of us with jokes. We do it so much in our threads.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 12, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Uh-uh.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Keep it Civil? Singletary is a cheater right? ROTFLMFAO....
Good thing it’s just preseason….
Black Sand Ninja!!!
Obviously you don't get it.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't mind him
I believe he is joking.
If he’s not, then yeah, he doesn’t get it.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Aug 10, 2010 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions
My feeling is he opened the thread and commented without reading anything in the thread.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much
rlott is a busy man.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
rlott was quite upset at the big blue dork and hasn't forgotten what went down.
"But, what he accomplished last year was great and very few individuals can pull that off..."
---Mike Singletary on Michael Crabtree
prediction: 49ers 35 Colts 0
and then the second quarter will start.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Sounds about right.
We rarely win a preseason game. In fact, there are many of us that consider it to be good luck when we lose all of our preseason games, since that was the case in our championship season.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Wanting to win in the preseason..
Is inversely proportionate to success the prior regular season.
I remember when we had that “problem”..
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 10, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
True.
When you’re coming off of a losing season coaches seem to be more concerned with proving something in the preseason than do the coaches of winning teams.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I believe that happened in 2005, not 2006.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Yes,
because I’m always right ;-)
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
You are correct.
Ironically enough, New Orleans was the only team we beat in 2006. :(
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Give Peyton at least 3 points.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
fine.
Peyton Manning 3 Colts 0
and then the pre-game warm-ups will end, and the 49ers will start playing.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 10, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it true?
That in the off season Peyton Manning had a surgical procedure to reduce his fivehead to a forehead?
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 10, 2010 6:40 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
The second guy is not Peyton Manning
Just doesn’t look like him.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 10, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Thats crazy,
Just shows how big of a difference something small can have on how we look at a person.
by Poundtherock on Aug 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure Peyton will cry himself to sleep on his giant pillow made of money while his beautiful wife comforts him.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 10, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Very odd.
I, myself, am a HUGE fan of the fivehead.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
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by peytonsthebest on Aug 11, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Or me, myself and I?
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Aug 11, 2010 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions
the after picture
makes him look like a douche. I prefer the fivehead as a partially balding man myself.
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Nice
I have to agree with you. What’s funny to me is how little photo-shopping I actually did, really just removed about a one inch rectangle from his head and than moved the top down.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 16, 2010 5:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Dude, you did that yourself?
Excellent work.
"But, what he accomplished last year was great and very few individuals can pull that off..."
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the second
looks more like Eli
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I noticed this too.
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by WeHaveCrabsAndVD on Aug 12, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
49ers @ Colts- preseason game
last year the 49ers were the only team to keep manning from throwing a touchdown pass in a game. the colts did win the game, it was close. but i EXPECT the 49ers to remember that game, and will be out for revenge, even if it is a preseason. DONT put manning on the field, mr. willis will make him wish he didnt play that day, and may put him out for the season. look out colts, the 49ers are BACK!!!!!
I was at that game
We sucked badly, especially our offensive line.
And that’s not going to happen unless you think someone will be head-hunting in a freaking preseason game.
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
You think that Willis will purposely try to
injure Peyton in a preseason game because of a game last year? And you would support that?
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Don't mind him. He's most likely a troll.
The only 6 comments is a dead giveaway.
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by Hoopers Judge on Aug 10, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Curtis Painter
Is this your version of Nate Davis?
He was impressive in the preseason last year but looked horrible against the Jets.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
Pretty much
He sucked in college though while Nate Davis was an absolute monster.
"Haters, suck my balls, TWO TIME"
by Colts Homer on Aug 10, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Ummm, no offense CH, but Painter at Purdue > Nate Davis at Ball State.
I loved Nate Davis at Ball State, but the level of competition was no where near the same. Its kind of like comparing Gonzo to Garcon coming out of college. Gonzo got second or third billing as a receiver and wasn’t considered great, while Garcon was the absolute man in D-III. In reality they are alot closer than most would have thought, but competition plays a significant role. I think all things being equal Painter has better physical tools, but Davis has better mental toughness. Although after last season I don’t think any rookie QB would have survived.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Painter has better physical tools?
any specific examples? because I have seen youtube videos of Nate Davis throwing 65 yards through the air.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
While on the run.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Painter has better physical tools, but Davis has better mental toughness.
Nah.
Nate Davis is a better athlete but the knock on him is his learning disability.
Most detractors are concerned that he will fall apart if there is an OC change (can’t learn a new offense quickly enough)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome
Great to have another aboard the Nate Davis bandwagon.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, except
Nate Davis hasn’t even played in the regular season yet.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
I'd say that's addition by subtraction in this comparison
Painter’s regular season play was really (REALLY) bad.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
that was my point.
i meant that you cant knock Nate Davis for playing well in the preseason just because Curtis Painter did too and then he sucked in the regular season.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Colt's fan's ...
… what’s your thought on the new …Umpire , Rule Change … think’n Manning might not be a happy camper …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
We'll have to wait and see on that one.
On the one hand, it should theoretically slow down our hurry-up offense and give defenses more time to make substitutions (so they don’t have to fake injuries all the time to get it done). On the other hand, we’ve been making moves to beef up our O-line in the off-season to improve the run game, so I’m thinking that the hurry-up might be slowing down a bit anyway. It’s a bit harder to run it with the bigger guys, especially later in the game as players tire.
Either way it’s definitely going to remove one of Manning’s weapons.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 10, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm ...
… i see you change’d name’s … but in true too your name i was think’n you should be ask’n question’s in true form … such as , how does one feel after your team lost the Superbowl or where does all those T-shirt’s and hat’s go … juz say’n since we never had to go thru that …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
lol yeah man
how do you like the new handle?
by mr. instigator on Aug 10, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It's good
But you have to take your comments to a new level.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Question for a Colts fan so I don't have to go to SB
Why did the Colts cut Raheem Brock?
"Lord, beer me strength."
Why would you ever go back to SB? lol.
they didn’t he asked to be released so they obliged. not sure why he did that though.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 10, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was a mercy more than anything else.
They knew that with the way things were going Brock was going to be seeing less and less of the field even though he still had a few good years left. They just didn’t have a place for him anymore, and given how much he’s meant to the organization, they granted him a favor so he could make use of his last few “peak,” years for a team he could possibly make an impact for.
Problem is, not many teams are looking for a good, but not great DE/DT hybrid that lacks the speed of a pure DE and the size of a DT. He was a system player that is going to problems finding a place in a number of other systems. Still wish we’d kept him, but our roster is already full to bursting as it is, so maybe we cut Brock so we can keep Pierre Garcon V2.0 (Sam Giguere).
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
The only thing that came out was that he asked to be released.
The most popular theory (and one that I subscribe to) is that the Colts asked him to take less money (he was going to make way too much this season), and he refused and asked to be released.
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If that's the case...
I bet he’s wishing his jobless ass had taken a little less money.
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 5:08 AM PDT up reply actions
No doubt.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
How long can Peyton play at a high level?
Will it be his arm or legs to go first?
I don’t think that at all… and of course this is all speculation on your behalf
by Drew K on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 PM PDT
I'd say 6 years or so.
He has legs? Since when?
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
he's no Bledsoe
he can move quite a bit in the pocket.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah,
but it’s more fun to make fun of his running.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
How many Brett Favre records will he break?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends how many more years Favre waffles...
Currently, in terms of average Manning years, he is between 1 and 3 years from breaking every record except INTs. The longer Favre keeps dragging this out the longer it goes. Regardless, I think Manning will play past 40, simply because he has taken so much less punishment than many of his contemporaries.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
I'm guessing that this is Favre's last season.
So by 2013 Peyton should break most of his records?
Put an end to all that Favre is the best QB in the history of the NFL nonsense.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, 2014, just checked.
Here is a useful tool to look at.
http://www.indystar.com/manningmeter/
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
All of them but the interception record.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
how far behind is he?
manning threw more than twice as many picks as favre last year, even with sitting out the last game.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 12, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
126.
He throws ~ 12 a year at this point in his career, so it would take around 11 more seasons to break it. I can’t see Peyton sticking around that long.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
hmm.
you’re probably right.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
by these3words on Aug 12, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you Colts fans
Trade your 1 SB win in 2006 for an extra 20 regular season wins throughout the 2000s?
For an extra 50 wins?
well the Colts only lost 45 regular season games in the 2000s
a significant minority of them being the result of pulled starters.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Darn you for being a faster researcher than me.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
I'd say no, because regular season wins are subject to diminishing returns
the difference between a 10 win and a 14 win season isn’t that big of a deal.
Adding extra wins would only get the Colts 1 more season as a contender (2001).
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I almost circle back to a position like yours
at least in some aspects.
I think the best measure isn’t something like raw wins. It’s seasons as a contender. It’s not binary success/fail, but I would call contending clearly on the success side of the continuum.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
We don't have an extra 50 wins to get.
We only lost 45 games in the 2000’s.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
OK,
Throw in some wild card wins etc. LOL
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
'02
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
I don't see a point to the question.
This originally started when one person claimed that he didn’t want Peyton because he’s not interested in only winning in the regular season.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Sorry
My question has NOTHING to do with JOhnnysixnut’s thing.. We were debating SB vs Reg season wins.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I took the question at face value
didn’t follow the conversation closely above, because the whole rings things (a) has to do with teams, not individual players (I think you pointed this out), and (b) the team being compared to the Colts got their rings in a dubious manner, IMO.
Would be interesting to compare the Colts of the 2000s to the 49ers of the 1980s.
How can you not love a team that does this?
I honestly wouldn't know where to start
after the obvious (SB wins, QB ratings, etc.)
How can you not love a team that does this?
I wouldn't trade a thing.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK
I also wouldn't trade losing 20 more games
to guarantee 1 more SB.
Things are the way they are – I deal with it.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK
That being said
you don’t have any delusions that the Colts are the team of the 2000s right?
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I personally don't care about that designation
What does it even mean? Why limit it to the Roman calendar? Why not have “the team of the period June 2005 to August 2008”?
How can you not love a team that does this?
The Colts put out the best team
on a whole from 2000-2009 – most consistent team in the league. All I need for me to think they are “TotD”
That doesn’t matter to me though because there will never be a general consensus.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK
You don't need to ask that in a loaded manner.
Just ask a straight question.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Question for Colts fans
Besides Johnny U and Peyton
Who are your Fav. Colts QBs?
Fav. QB from any team?
Yep.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
I wish.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
I was in Indy for the Pats game last year. Nuts
But there were all these street vendors selling Tony Romo is a Homo shirts.. lol
Why the hate for Romo in INDY??
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
We hate cocky, annoying teams like the Cowboys in Indy.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
That game was off the hook though.
Yeah I loved seeing those shirts.. Also the Tom Brady Sucks, Belicheck Swallows.. haha
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
We use it a lot.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
As a Cal grad
I hate to say it, but I also like Harbaugh
How can you not love a team that does this?
1. I only know Peyton. I'm 19 years old.
2. I like Schaub, McNabb, and Eli for different reasons.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it either.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
probably Jim
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Barely saw any QBs before Peyton
but as for QB’s I like… Rodgers, Eli all I can think of at the moment.
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Jim Sorgi
Aaron Rodgers
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
haha (Random I know)
Angels won with a walk off homer :)
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sorry I had to do it man lol
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Well at least you can admit that being an A's fan.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm disowning them
And their BS Moneyball.
by mr. instigator on Aug 11, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
you should but then what team will you follow instead?
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
They did pretty damn good for a consistently bottom 5 salary team
that’s why the Cap/Floor need to come back in the NFL. I hate the imbalance from payroll difs in baseball.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." -Isaac Asimov
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Texas just lost
Woot!
Those ESPN guys sure are [site decorum]. Claiming that Cliff Lee was the best pitcher in baseball.
I mean, WTF?
Jered Weaver had a MUCH better game on the same day and they’re still knee deep in Cliff Lee’s [site decorum] after he gave up 4 ER in 6 innings.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Aug 11, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
The colt's have been a great team ...
… and good for you fan’s of the * U * … and it must of been along time wait’n .. enjoy the ride , becuz the NFL seem’s to come around full circle’s … think’n your window of opportunity is coming to ahead , Two , three year’s max … and you should be proud to have the second best team of the decade …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
OK then.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
def. strange...
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 11, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
the nfl only comes around full circle
when you stop drafting well. last i checked, the colts were still one of the best teams in the league at identifying and drafting talented players at positions they will need in the near future.
if they can find a QB to take over for Peyton, the window of opportunity will not close on them at all.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
That's how I feel.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
Mmmmm . . . I would not 100% disagree
Defensively they are finding some gems still. On offense not so much, I think Manning is keeping that ship running all by himself much like Young did in the late 90’s. I can’t see any of those young WR having that same kind of production outside Manning nor could I see that offensive line even being viable without great #18 constantly erasing all their sins. Also like the 49ers of the late 90’s, cannot find a RB to hold the job down no matter how hard the franchise tries.
Hmmmmm............
1. Reggie is still one of the best in the league, Gonzo is awesome, Collie is a great slot receiver, Clark is still in his prime, and Garcon has one of the highest ceilings I’ve seen (all he has to do is stop dropping the ball). We’re good on receivers for the foreseeable future.
2. The offensive line sucks. I think we’ve established that now.
3. What’s with the Addai hating? I love him. He’s probably the best blocking RB in the league, has a nose for the endzone, always falls forward, has a nice burst through the line, and can catch the ball well. The only problems with him is that he can sometimes be tentative and you never really get to see his downhill speed. Donald Brown has potential if he would stay healthy, and Mike Hart is a massive fan favorite. The RB’s aren’t the problem.
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Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: Starcraft 2 + Bonus stars in Super Mario Galaxy 2 + 2nd season of 24 = Happy Cass.
that's just silly
they lost Marvin Harrison and Anthony Gonzalez last year and had 6th and 4th round picks at WR come in and tear it up. If they have a blind spot for talent it’s the OL, not the whole offense.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I think both comments missed point about your WRs. I’m not saying they don’t have talent. Am I am saying on any other roster these guys are still in the development stage and not producing so much on the field. Manning is the reason these guys jumped on the field and produced right away otherwise they’d be like everyone else’s young receiver “hoping they get it in camp”.
I would say on any other team they'd actually produce more.
They were held back because there are so many of them. Manning had 6 consistent targets last year in Wayne, Garcon, Collie, Clark, Addai, and Brown. Now they are adding Gonzo and Guns. They may still be “developmental,” but the problem isn’t that they haven’t developed enough, its that there is only 1 ball, and only so much time. If Manning only had Wayne, Garcon, and Collie, each would be 1,000+ yard receivers, but because their are a half or dozen more reliable targets, their totals get cut down considerably.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
I think you need to start looking at other offenses
Most teams don’t have a QB who can make two receivers look productive let alone 4-5-6 like you are complaining about with Manning. You assertion is kinda comical. Trade Garcon, Collie and Gonzo to one of twenty other teams and the QB can’t even figure out what those receivers are good at doing let alone the ability to find them the ball during a game.
Collie is an extremely impressive slot receiver.
Garcon is an impressive wide receiver. Gonzo has amazing potential as both slot and wide. All 3 would be number 2 guys on a dozen teams. Other QBs may not be as good as Manning, but Collie/Garcon/Gonzo would have alot less competition. They get open. They do their jobs. A large number of other teams would LOVE to have them on their roster, even just one of them.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
My point is the #2 WR on most teams don’t even produce. The 4th, 5th and sometimes 6th options in the Colts offense outproduce the 2nd option on most teams. It’s all #18, I’ll trade you the 49ers WR fodder and Manning will make them seem ultra productive.
But to be fair, a lot of teams only have 1 good receiver
and their number 2 guy is near useless. Improving the overall quality of the receivers increases the productivity. Having 2 good options to throw too makes both better.
But your point is well taken. Peyton Manning can make nearly anyone look good. He took a kid out of the crowd at Training camp and threw the ball to him and the kid caught 1 out of 2.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
I don’t think the 49ers #2 or #3 receiver are useless it’s just that the offense/QB doesn’t know how to use them. I’m confident the 49ers could make Garcon, Collie and Gonzo look just as useless.
I wasn't meaning the 49ers in particular.
The Rams could use any of the 3, so could the Browns, Bears, or Lions could. There are some organizations that struggle to field one good receiver. Some organizations like the Colts have too many good receivers.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
Well if you look ...
… at the short history of the NFL … Ten year’s seem’s to be the norm for team’s to be in the upper tier of the league …!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
First of all,
you have no evidence to support that. Second, Peyton Manning is not the norm.
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Ummm ...
60’s Packer’s , 70’s Steeler’s , 80’s Niner’s ,90’s Cowboy’s, 2000 Patriot’s … !!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
Evidence.
*’60’s Packers had winning seasons from ‘60-’67. They made the playoffs 6 of those 8 years.
*’70’s Steelers had winning seasons from ‘72-’80. They made the playoffs 8 of those 9 years.
*’80’s Niners had winning seasons from ‘83-’98. They made the playoffs 15 of those 16 years.
*’90’s Cowboys had winning seasons from ‘91-’96. They made the playoffs 6 of those 6 years and 2 more times in ‘98-’99. 8 total in the ’90’s.
*’00’s Patriots had winning seasons from ‘01-’09. They made the playoffs 7 of those 9 years. (still going)
*’00’s Colts had winning seasons in ‘00 and from ’02-’09. They made the playoffs 9 of those 9 years. (still going)
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I expect the Colts to beat those odds. ;)
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Colt's are fun to watch that's for sure ...!!
Gotta love a woman that wear's knee pad's to work ...!!
I used to watch the Niners a lot...
When I was growing up. They were my favorite team before we got our own team.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Why did you skip 1999?
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Ooops!
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction:
*’00 Colts had winning seasons from ‘99-’00 and from ‘02-’09. They made the playoffs 10 of those 10 years. (still going)
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
hurry and rec this post
so we can get it in the “reccomended fanposts” section before it gets pushed out of the “recent fanposts” section.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Ah.
I changed the settings on my profile to have like the most recent 20 FanPosts show on the front page.
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Way ahead of you there.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Done.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 11, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
excellent work, guys.
7 recs in under 4 hours. that’s almost minimum wage.
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by these3words on Aug 12, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
This discourse has me thinking
That just as a whole 49er fans and Colts fans cheer their team and maybe view football in different ways. You guys seem a lot less critical for starters. I’m just surprised that there isn’t at least one Colts fan who is unhappy with the amount of success you’ve had in the post-season relative to the regular season because I honestly think SF fans wouldn’t be quite so quick to defend a star QB who didn’t play his best football in the post-season.
I really can’t picture 49er fans saying things about playoff success like “It’s too small a sample to validate findings..” I think we’d just be pissed off our team lost in the playoffs. OK, let me clarify this. Most of us think our team is on the cusp, this year most of us would be pretty happy just making the playoffs and a first round exit wouldn’t be too upsetting (unless we got blown out by Dallas or something, than we’d commit mass-sepuku). That said, I think the expectation is that this team will compete for and eventually win a Super Bowl before they arc downward and if they don’t…..even if they reach the championship game every year..even if they win 12 games for 8 years in a row..even if Alex Smith is league MVP….it will be a disappointment.
Short of winning a Super Bowl, Singletary (as high as most of us are on him right now) will have had a failed tenure if he doesn’t deliver a championship and I think he’d agree with that statement. We have no desire to be the Eagles of the last ten years, none (I don’t think Eagle fans are in love with being Eagle fans either, but that’s another story).
I think all the SBs in the 80s and early 90s have left us with an un-naturally high standard. We’re not fair weather fans, we’ll watch bad 49er teams, we’ll support teams during rebuilding, we just call it like it is and when we stink we’ll tell you about it.
Most of this is speculation as far as how I think we’d treat a 115 win decade with one SB win and an 8-8 playoff record, but I think although we’d cherish another SB win, we’d also be pissed off about the missed opportunities. I’m still pissed we lost to Washington in the championship game and the Vikings in the first round and those games happened over 20 years ago. The Washington game, I’m just mad at the ref that called THREE complete BS PI penalties on R. Lott, I mean just total BS calls Jerry Seaman I think is his name..what a douche, I mean no contact whatsoever..getting off topic..breathing..relaxing.. But that Vikings loss was tough to swallow, really that was probably the best regular season 49er team ever and they get blown out by the Vikings at home in the first round of the playoffs, disgusting..
Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing – Vince Lombardi
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Alright...
Look, man, no one is saying we’re happy we only won one Super Bowl. I mean, if you asked us if we wished we had one 1 SB or 5 SB’s of course we’d say 5 SB’s. Duh! And on the subject of disappointment: Of course we’re disappointed we didn’t win more Super Bowls. Aren’t you disappointed you haven’t won more SB’s? I think any team who has a shot at winning it in any given year is disappointed when they don’t go all the way. Every team that doesn’t win the Super Bowl experiences a missed opportunity, not just us. I personally think we should win a Super Bowl every year. That would be great! And the fact that we are in contention for that honor every season is pretty damned impressive, I think. I love being in the position to be disappointed every season. It rocks! It’s much better than pinning all of our hopes on that one year a decade when we make a run at glory and then totally blow the rest of the time.
The fact is, we’ve done what we’ve done and there’s no use bitching and moaning about it after the fact. You just pick yourself up, get back to work, and focus on winning the first game of next season. The end. Support your team and quit your bellyaching. There’s no point in “what if’s” and “Gee, wouldn’t it have been nice?”.
They are worse than worthless. They get you absolutely nothing.
If they did I’d be riding a gold-plated unicorn with two pornstars on my lap and the abs of a god. And not one of those fat Chinese ones either, I’m talking about one of those ripped-ass Greek gods.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and how!!!
Diehard niners fan and while its always disappointing you are right on the money when it comes to what to do about it. look towards next year and just hope to be in that position year after year. I took it for granted in my 5-18 yo niners years of the 80’s and 90’s and now i only wish i coudl have that back…. even if it meant losing to the cowboys int he nfc championship game. get me a playoff chance every year and i am a stoked fan.
by SuspendingBJ on Aug 13, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't think we don't wish our team had won more championships.
Losing in the playoff is extremely disappointing.
Losing in the playoffs is just not the same as the QB playing bad. Peyton has played just as good in the playoffs and in the last few seasons better in the playoffs than in the regular season. A team can lose even though the QB plays well. For example when either of the two defensive captains are injured and the defense can’t even force a 3rd down (as in the 2nd half of the Super Bowl).
The defense was non-existing until 2004.
Peyton has one bad playoff game (the 2003 AFCCG). Other than that he has played just as well and in recent seasons better than in the regular season. The colts would not be a contender without him. They would not make the playoffs in more than one season (2005) in the decade without him – and they would have lost that playoff game anyway. Peyton Manning is the only reason the Colts have been competitive and a contender year after year. Peyton Manning IS the colts in this decade.
Sure, his playoff record would be better if he just didn’t single-handedly take the team to the playoffs when the OL falls apart, the receivers are injured, the defense decides to take an early vacation and Freeney or Brackett are injured.
"It's the greatest job in the world until Peyton comes off the field and you think his thumb might be broken and there's three minutes left in the AFC Championship Game and you're down by three to New England and you haven't taken a snap all year. Yeah, it's a great job until that point." - Jim Sorgi.
"If I couldn't play for the Colts, I would probably stop playing football." - Peyton Manning.
by gizzardfanny on Aug 12, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say Colt fans aren't critical
I’ve seen them be critical of their team. Heck, I’ve seen their game threads…on gameday, they demand perfection. However, in this case, I think they have a good deal of perspective.
They recognize and appreciate the historical value of the run by Peyton and their Colts. No fan base may see this kind of consistent, high-level of play in our life times so I don’t hold it against them that they’d look at the long-time value of this era. Sure, I bet they want more titles, but there’s no use in being bitter for years about something especially a football team. That doesn’t make them less of a fan, but it shows they can put it in perspective.
Even Buffalo fans now look at 4 straight Super Bowl losses with pride because they realize that no team is going to ever win four, or even three, straight conference championships again. The point being: each franchise has something they can hang their hat on, so you can’t criticize them for being proud of this as they should be.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Aug 12, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd. Thanks, buddy.
I take back most of those things I said about the Texans. And their fans. And Battle Red Blog. And some of your moms. ;)
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
It's different here
Steve Young had a good quote to describe it, something like “each season in San Francisco it’s a Super Bowl or a train wreck”.
It’s still that way, except fans have been expecting the train wreck in September and not January the last few years. A winning season isn’t good enough, ask Steve Mariucci.
by bignerd on Aug 12, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellently put
That’s why I’d take 9 losing seasons and 1 SB win over 10 winning seasons and 0 SB wins. It’s crazy some Colts fans feel otherwise.
by mr. instigator on Aug 12, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That's doubtful...
I’m sure they wouldn’t have a lot to brag about if all they could say was, “We may have sucked for every season we ever played, but it was all worth it because of that one magical time that we got lucky and went all the way…”
That’s called a fluke. No one respects a fluke. It would be like if in the Tour de France right before the finish line there’s a huge wreck that takes out the leading 15 guys and Bob from Jersey cruises past them to the finish.
Yay…
Consistent dominance is what proves greatness.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Go ask Bucs and Saints fans . . . they fit one magical season stereotype
They wouldn’t trade places with the Vikings, Browns or Eagles.
Go ask Vikings fans right now. I think the Vikings currently have the 3rd best winning percentage in NFL history and are absolutely haunted by no SB trophy. I’ve chatted a lot with Viking fans, they don’t care at all about sustained excellence. They don’t consider it a badge of honor, they consider it a cruel curse. What they care about it seeing and feeling a SB trophy before them and their father reach their grave.
Has your Tour De France example apply? The analogy is being great one season compared to being the bridesmaid every season.
To say..
They would trade all their winning seasons is silly.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Just go ask them if you doubt me
See if the Vikings, Eagles and Browns fans are thrilled bragging about all their good campaigns with no trophies to show for it. Ask them how many good seasons they would trade for just one winner. Ask them if they would rather of had a Bucs or Saints track record for 40 years just to cash one in.
+1
Saints fans wouldnt trade their SB win for ANYTHING sports related. all those years of mediocre football and one SB win is worth way more to them than having year after year of excellent football and no SB win. same with bucs fans.
Eagles fans suck so i personally hope they never win one. Actually I am hoping the redskins go win one with mcnabb at the helm so i can shove that in the face of every eagles fan in existance. They are all rude – throw crap at my team (and every other team) and dont know a good thing when its right in front of them.
by SuspendingBJ on Aug 13, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Saints fans would be the wrong ones to ask
because they have never experienced sustained success. Of course they’re going to value the shit out of that SB trophy. I can’t think of a good franchise at the moment that would fit the Colts mold but perhaps the Raiders. Ask them if they’d take several years of sustained success even if it means never winning a Super Bowl? Bet they’d take that in a heart beat.
yep....
I've lived in New Orleans
And I can honestly say that the Saints have some of the best, most fun loving, devoted fans in the league. They’re respectful of away fans and tend to keep football in perspective I’ll almost always root for the Saints if they aren’t playing the 49ers.
I know what I'm talking about, I started at right guard for the 1992 College Park Falcons.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 16, 2010 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Except that the NFL doesn't work that way.
You can’t trade wins or winning seasons to guarantee Super Bowls in other seasons.
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hypothetical questions
learn what they are. i dont think this one gets anymore obvious
by SuspendingBJ on Aug 13, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that is the big difference between the two franchises' fan base
Niners Nation has seen sustained success and championships. They’re a fallen franchise. The Colts Nation is a franchise that has spent most of its tenure in obscurity until the last decade or so. So we’re just enjoying the ride until Peyton retires and we return to mediocrity.
Therefore we don’t fret over opportunity lost we’re just happy to have had the opportunity to begin with. Maybe this year we’ll win it all and we’ll be ecstatic, but as long as they put the best team they can on the field and compete we’ll be happy. We’re dying to win another championship but if we don’t we’ll just move on because we know with Peyton there is always next year.
yep....
by JustAJ on Aug 12, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
REC'd
Excellent memory my friend. Had to rec because its true.
by SuspendingBJ on Aug 13, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
You're right
Good point. I just take issue with the guy who said the Colts were the team of the decade, then they all try to back it up by saying the Pats 3 SB run is somehow less than their 1 SB. The Colts have been the most consistently winning team (at least reg. season) and are very impressive. But let’s not get foolish and say the Colts are the team of the last ten years when the reality is the Pats and Steelers have both done more.
by mr. instigator on Aug 12, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
No, its that your only justification for being "Team of the decade,"
is based solely on dominance in ONE game during the year for a decade. We were making the point that our definition, and the definition we feel is more valid is that CONTINUED dominance in EVERY game for the decade is what makes the team of the decade. No team is guaranteed a victory in any given game, and that includes all games in the playoffs, especially in the Super Bowl. The best team doesn’t always win, sometimes they do though.
That is why we are saying that while we are happy with 1 SB win, we aren’t content. We have come to understand and value that there is so much more to a season than just the one SB win. Look at the EPL (English Premier League). The best team during the season doesn’t always win the post-season championship. Same with the Champions League. The best team doesn’t always win. As 49er fans, if you cannot be happy unless you climb Everest every year, then so be it, but we Colt fans have learned that climbing K2 is by no means a feat to be disappointed in.
So lets not get foolish and try to pretend that we are going to agree. You value ONLY SB wins, which is, to be honest, a little New Englandy and naive. We value dominance, and the Colts, not the Steelers, not the Patriots, have been the most CONSISTENTLY dominant team of the past decade. The Patriots fell off, the Steelers fell off. The Colts haven’t. That is why the Colts are the team of the decade. The decade is alot longer and alot more than one SINGLE game, and that is what you have seemed to fail to understand in this whole argument. We get your point. We don’t agree, but don’t patronize us by saying that we are stupid because we don’t agree. We don’t agree with your conclusions because our valuation of the facts is different than yours. You value luck. We value consistency. End of debate. We aren’t going to agree.
"I shall not fear. Fear is the Mind killer. Fear is the little death that leads to total obliteration. I will face my fear and let it pass through me. When the fear is gone, there shall be nothing. Only I shall remain."
-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
It's not just his justification though....
Everyone recognizes that the team of the decades as follows:
60s Packers. Why? 3 NFL Titles, 2 Super Bowl Titles.
70s Steelers. 4 Super Bowl Titles, 7 Playoff births in 10 seasons.
80s 49ers. 4 Super Bowl Titles, 8 playoff births in 10 seasons.
90s Cowboys. 3 Super Bowl Titles, 6 playoff births in 10 seasons.
Now what fits in more?
- 1 Super Bowl Title & an additional conference title, 9 playoff births in 10 seasons.
- 3 Super Bowl Titles & an additional conference title, 7 playoff births in 10 seasons.
In the 00s, the Patriots own the title. In arguments for the Colts, all I hear is 115. Consistent. Never fallen off. How did the Patriots fall off? They won 3 Super Bowl Titles and a 4th AFC Championship. They made the playoffs in 7 out of 10 seasons in the decade. They also won 112 games. So they aren’t the team of the decade because 3 regular season wins matter more than 2 more additional rings? There’s no luck for the Patriots. They were consistent and just a bit better than the Colts in the 00s.
I’ve argued that Colt fans should be proud of what their team has accomplished, but the team of the decade they are not.
"Lord, beer me strength."
But its for the decade, not the half decade.
The Patriots fell off at the end of the decade, and because of their playing style they didn’t sit at the end of seasons. They also stole 1 SB, and lucked out on the second.
Its not the 115 wins. Its the 115 wins, consistently over 10 years, while sitting out about a dozen games that would have been wins if we’d played, and playing distinctly harder schedules than the other two winning teams. Being a top 5 team for 10 years is better than being a top 5 team for 6 years, then a top 15 team for 4. Thats the argument. Its all about consistency. Being a threat for the whole decade is what makes the team the “Team of the Decade,” not getting lucky a couple of years, but then not doing anything the rest of the time.
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Alright, I see where you're coming from
I don’t agree, but I get the point you’re making now. There’s a point to be made for 9 playoff births in 10 seasons….consistency that none of the other “decade” teams had.
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I don’t begrudge people who value the high success of some teams even though they’ve had some down years. I just don’t like basing “success,” off of something as fickle as the playoffs. Its great to achieve that final victory, but playoffs are single snapshots, and require a great deal of Luck. Like the Giants victory over the Pats, it was a great deal of luck. I just don’t like the view that it is the only correct view.
As AJ said below, if the Colts had started their ascent earlier or later than 2000, then this would be a different argument, but because the Colts reign started in 2000 basically, as did the Steelers and the Patriots, who have swapped back and forth. The whole situation is a mess, and regardless of who is given credit, the fact is that the Steelers, Patriots, and Colts all have absolutely legitimate arguments, and while proponents of may poke holes in each argument, it is the total lack of respect for an argument that I dislike. I know I’ve spoken adamantly against just taking SB wins, but the argument is a valid one, just not one I completely agree with. Its kind of like the Stampede Blue argument that Garcon is a better receiver than Gonzo. Both sides have merit, and I don’t begrudge the opposing side of their opinion, I just dislike being told that my opinion doesn’t matter.
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-Frank Herbert "Dune" (1965)
It hurts to acknowledge the Cowboys as the team of the decade in the 90’s. Trust me, I’d like to pretend the Broncos made a late argument. I think I could even prove the 49ers had more wins and playoff appearances than the boyz in the 90’s but it’s not an argument anyone will buy.
Anyways a lot of talk spun off from a preseason game. I think the Colts are legit SB contender this season. I thought they way over achieved last season, even as they kept piling on wins I thought they were quiet beatable. Because their young WR’s and defense gained so much experience last season they could be a fantastic football team this year.
I still think the AFC is a bit weak again this season so I don’t see a lot of challengers for the Colts to deal with. I’m not a believer in the Jets, possibly the Pats if they make strides can challenge. Can never can close the door on the Steelers but not thrilled about their prospects. The Chargers continue to be a running joke (although the Colts are the one team they can beat). Ravens don’t know how to call an offensive game plan, no thank you Fins, Texans fills like a stretch to call them contenders … so far.
I don't get the hype around the Jets....
I honestly don’t. They were 7-7 when they got 2 “easy” wins. They won 2 playoff games against a depleted (physically and emotionally) Bengals team and the always overrated Chargers.
This year, they have a tougher schedule…their best player is unhappy….they got rid of their best RB for someone who’s pretty near done….they added a bunch of players so team chemistry is in question….
And yet, everyone wants to call them AFC East champions and Super Bowl contenders…..
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I'm right behind you there
they snuck into the playoffs last year and then proved why the playoffs are just as much as a crap shoot as they are a measurement of the best teams. No chance in hell the Jets were better than the Chargers or the Bengals for that matter. Now they’re being anointed as the next coming of the 80s Niners. Puhlease.
yep....
I do think the Jets were better than
the Bengals, actually.
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Yeah, but...
the Bengals had been injured and emotionally drained. Those Bengals started strong, but really limped in towards the end of the season.
"Lord, beer me strength."
True.
They seemed kind of flukey to me though. I kept asking myself the whole season if they had been replaced by pod people or something.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know about that
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 13, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
ugh...
The Bengals have some great CBs and a very talented DL.
Antwan Odom would have led the league in sacks had he not gotten hurt so early in the season.
Their passing offense is just too 49er-ish.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 13, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
no way in hell
are the jets the next coming of the 80’s niners. you have that nailed. the jets are an overhyped team that im praying NEVER makes the playoffs because they cant play as a team with all the big names and big contracts. I want rex ryan on a donkey after he has eat all this offseason BS talk
by SuspendingBJ on Aug 13, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
And they did it being . . .
both the #1 defense and #1 running team last year. The odds of them duplicating both feats again this season are moot. They might make up some some ground in the passing game but even dropping off from #1 to top 5 in those other categories is typically a significant difference. Not to mention key parts of that run defense/offense are rather old with a serious risk of injury.
the issue with those teams listed
is that they are also the most consistently dominant teams of their respective decades. This decade is a bit of an anomaly because the Colts were consistently dominant and the Patriots finished on top the most. Every other decade the consistently dominant and best finishers were synonymous. Which is the reason this decade is even an argument.
I can see it both ways. Colts/Patriots
yep....
I dont know if
there even is a “team of the decade” for 2000-2009.
The Patriots won the most Super Bowls, but every single one of them was in the first half of the decade.
Team of the early 2000’s, sure. Team of the 2000’s, i think not.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
yeah
every other decade has been pretty cut and dry. This one has been a cluster sexual activity. If you’re using the SB argument then the Pats win but would you honestly put the Steelers above the Colts? Surely not. If you use pure wins the its the Colts but they only won one SB. So………. Yeah it is very complex to crown a team of the 2000’s
yep....
True.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I always say that the Pats, Colts, and Steelers
should share the team of this decade achievement.
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Peace-keeping hippie.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 12, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Or my actual opinion ;-)
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The opinion of a peace-keeping hippie?
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 13, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL.
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would you say that the 90's
shoudl be shared by the bills niners and cowboys? I disagree with that if you do. 90’s was the cowboys. When it comes to 00’s. Its the pats all the way. Sure they fell off after a PERFECT season which i was happy to see them imperfect against the giants at the end. I hate the patriots. just like i hate the cowboys. But the cowboys were the team of 90’s and the pats are the team of 2000’s.
by SuspendingBJ on Aug 13, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
What the heck you guys? Coffee announced his retirement? Is this true if so that sucks he was a rookie last year right.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 13, 2010 12:48 PM PDT reply actions
yeah, he was a rookie last year.
without him, here is our 2009 draft:
1. WR Michael Crabtree
5. ILB Scott McKillop – currently on IR with career-threatening injury
5. QB Nate Davis – yet to see action in the regular season
6. TE Bear Pascoe – couldn’t even make the practice squad, currently with NYG
7. S Curtis Taylor – currently our #5 safety, might not make the team
7. DL Ricky Jean-Francois – looking good at NT while Aubrayo Franklin holds out
so basically unless Nate Davis turns into a franchise QB, our 2009 draft was Crabtree, RJF, and nobody in between.
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yea I know I have already participated in the one Coffee has retired thread.
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by TheAngelsColts on Aug 13, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn. That sucks.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 13, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Rough draft
But McKilloop showed promise as a backup ILB and ST aces so there’s hope for him when he comes back.
If he becomes a quality backup and if RJF turns it on this year that would make three quality players out of the draft, which is actually pretty good when it comes to drafting.
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Mike Iupati?
The 2009 second round pick turned into Mike Iupati
I’d also argue that McKillop will be the next Ulbrich, which is great for a 5th round pick. Plus Curtis Taylor has progressed well.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 13, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
excellent points,
i provided a rebuttal to my own post below.
however, i’m still not convinced that scott mckillop will be able to salvage his career. he already wasn’t a great athlete and a torn patellar tendon can have a lasting effect on your speed and agility. and i’m sure having a torn ACL in the same knee will complicate his rehabilitation.
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by these3words on Aug 14, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come on now
Ulbrich wasn’t much of an athlete either.
I still feel that he can play for another 5 seasons purely as a ST guy.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
At least you got Crabtree.
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by Cassieper on Aug 14, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And RJF
He seems to be our future NT.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 14, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
If you can get a #1 WR and starting NT in one draft than it’s fairly successful considering the difficulty at finding players at those positions.
Have to examine the 2008 draft. A starting guard and #2 WR aren’t as bountiful.
True
Who else is left from that draft?
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by SportsChicken on Aug 17, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
we made 6 picks that year:
1. Kentwan Balmer – currently a 6th round pick next year
2. Chilo Rachal – currently our starting RG, results mixed
3. Reggie Smith – currently unpopular among Colts backups
4. Cody Wallace – soon to be cut
6. Josh Morgan – currently our #2 WR
7. Larry Grant – currently unimportant, possibly out of league
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Colts backups?
Reggie Smith is the no.3 Safety on the team right now.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 18, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh
gotcha.
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by SportsChicken on Aug 19, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
hmm... looking back, i think i may have been too harsh.
crabtree was a great value at an important position, and getting a starting NT in the late 7th round in unheard of.
it’s not like they could have foreseen coffee’s early retirement or mckillop’s injury, and the 2nd and 4th rounders both went towards mike iupati, who is already looking excellent against first-teamers.
nate davis has plenty of upside for a late 5th rounder, and while it’s true that curtis taylor “might not make the team,” as i said before, i still think it’s more likely that he does make it.
so really the bear pascoe pick is the only one that scot mccloughan deserved to be smacked for. smacked or demoted to spying on the seahawks.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Spying on the Seahawks
Is that like the CIA spying in on Finland?
by bignerd on Aug 15, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
sadly, yes.
the 49ers lost to the NFL equivalent of Finland last year.
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Nooooo!
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by SportsChicken on Aug 17, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
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