49ers Roster Transactions: WR Jason Hill signs with 49ers
by David Fucillo on Sep 14, 2010 3:58 PM PDT
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PrintWell that was certainly quick. The 49ers announced they have signed former WR Jason Hill and released CB Tramaine Brock. The team also released LB Bruce Davis from the practice squad.
I'm curious if this is meant to give Michael Crabtree a kick in the butt, or if the team wants Hill for his special teams prowess. Any thoughts on this move at this point in time?
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Ted Ginn must be a little more injured then originally thought.
Also Special Teams might have been worse then coaches thought. Looks like Philip Adams, Kyle Williams, and Josh Morgan are the primary returners.
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by Hoopers Judge on Sep 14, 2010 4:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I love this move
I feel we might have been good to develope Tremaine Brock but Jason Hill is needed.
He will challenge Josh Horgan and crabtree.
I hope to coin a new name for jason- sure hand with two feet in Hill.
Welcome back home Jason Hill!!!!
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 14, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds right.
The move is perhaps more a reflection of Ginn’s injury, and what’s his name’s toe not healing.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 14, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
First Off
Fooch…… your damn fast…… Now, I really have no clue what this means. I hope it’s only for his special teams prowess and not that our #1 receiver might be benched.
press release
It was mostly luck. I’m at the Seattle airport and it came just as I opened my email (thankfully they have free wifi)
by David Fucillo on Sep 14, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
WTF
Is with Crabtree? This guy looked excellent last year with little to no practice and now he looks like hot garbage, and his attitude seems questionable. I need somebody to feed me theories because I’m starting get really freaked out over here.
Theory # 1
He was very upset that someone had stepped on his all white pumas, and could no longer get through the day without being mad and dysfunctional
Michael Crabtree will have a big day next Monday I’m calling it right now
close to 100 yards receiving and a TD
by 49erEmpire on Sep 14, 2010 4:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank and here is ..... Theory # 2
Crabtree couldn’t focus on the game as he was still trying to figure out what a diva was and why people were calling him a diva… This week he’ll be ok, i shot him an e-mail saying he’s not a diva he’s technically a divo, since he’s a guy. So all is well
Well in that case
He must whip it.
by mr. instigator on Sep 14, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
Now if sing can just get him to work in the coal mines.
A proud member of the epic "Green Thread" that was Pitts nonsigning of 3/24-3/25. Oh and I was there for there for the Carr nonpresser too.
Right after
he says let’s talk
A proud member of the epic "Green Thread" that was Pitts nonsigning of 3/24-3/25. Oh and I was there for there for the Carr nonpresser too.
Meanwhile
Ochocinco and TO, the original divas are like Starsky and Hutch in Cincinatti.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
More is expected of him
Obviously. But last year, he was only given a handful of plays that weren’t too difficult and he could use his talent to make plays. This year, he is expected to know the playbook inside and out. I think he is struggling with taking it all in. I think his lack of complete knowledge of the plays is keeping him from being lined up correctly, running good routes, and playing faster.
And also keeps him from making a tackle after an interception?
I don’t think lack of playbook had as much to do with it as lack of effort did.
Just another opinion concerning Crabtr ...
Given his I-don’t-need-practice position, his milking a minor injury into avoiding practice and all pre-season games (creating Favre-like seperate rules from teammates), and his piss-poor play in the Seattle game, I would just as soon sit him on the bench until he decides that he (1) wants to become an adult, and (2) really wants to work at becoming a decent player. Until then, if it ever comes, I rather play somebody who you know will give it full effort — Zeigler. Maybe less talent, but a LOT more reliable.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 14, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Zeigler's mother
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
I don't know what you are talking about.
This is a great idea. I mean a #5 receiver who has been on the Practice Squad for the last 3 years will definitely be better than our most talented receiver. Plus that dude can jump.
Yeah, but can he dance!
"I always thought that Crabtree was a hard worker. He's not faking it. He's not the type to hide behind the curtain... he's always been a guy that works hard."
---Roger Craig
We’ll see when monday comes around
49ers los mejores!!!
by 49erSalvatrucha on Sep 14, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions
it really is crazy
how much one game has affected my confidence in this team/coaching staff.
It's not one game
That’s why you feel like that. It’s been a collection of years, even with this coaching staff. Now when things were supposed to be different they weren’t. And the fact that it is the same things over and over makes it feel that there will be no end in the near future.
yep...
I had completely forgotten about that.
by David Fucillo on Sep 14, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Ginn is out a few weeks
Kyle Williams is out so the team needs a 4th WR. Didn’t make sense to keep Brock on the roster over Hill to begin with, even if he had a terrible camp.
LOL
I hated the release of Hill, and now I’m stoked to see him signed back on, also it is because they want to put pressure on crabtree and other receivers, Hill can be what we envisioned when we drafted him, he just needs a chance, sucks we had to release a CB since we are thin on depth on that posiotion as is.
Yeah, seems like Ginn is more injured that we thought. It’s a good move, Hill knows the offense, can play on special teams for us, and fill in here and there at WR. Not really a big move. I think he’d still be behind Ziegler on the depth chart for NO.
"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
Tweet Tweet.
here is a great article from yahoo
about communication problems with the niners, and much more in-depth on jimmy raye’s problems and everything. might be worth frontpageing if you believe yahoo.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AnyGneLwYIwEFfVMwsqo4MhDubYF?slug=jc-directsnap091410
Wow.
If that’s true, which it probably is, then Raye really is the bumbling old man he’s characterized to be by all his detractors. How in the hell could he not call the plays right w/ the correct verbiage and then expect Johnson to read his mind? No wonder Alex Smith is so pissed off.
I like Sing and think he’d be a great position coach, but overall it’s clear w/ stories like these that he doesn’t have the skills to run an entire team—especially in the heat of the moment. I’m off the kool-aid. BUT, to avoid too much pessimism, I’m still hopeful for a solid season—just think we’d be better off w/ an experienced coach.
"The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self improvement, about being better than you were the day before." ~Steve Young #8
by Young_To_Rice on Sep 14, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
good article
heres a concept: why not have Jason Michael sit in the booth with Raye and collaborate on plays, then speak it over to Mike Johnson, who relays it to A. Smith? Seems like it will rectify the translation issue at hand, and ensures clear communication since Raye will not speak into any sort of head set. Bonus: Jason Michael could make sure Jimmy stays awake the whole time and change his adult diaper when needed!
by Rep the Bay on Sep 14, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is actually a great idea
It’s so simple too.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Problem Solved...
Fire Jimmy Raye, make Mike Johnson the OC and have him call plays from the sidelines. There, now can we get back to winning some games!
by Jayhov on Sep 14, 2010 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i have a feeling
this will basically happen mid-season…Raye will still be OC in name but Johnson will be doing the play-calling, and at the end of the season Raye can retire gracefully.
Raye can consult from the booth and help draft game plans during the week. MJ can call the plays thus eliminating the play clock issue and hopefully the lack of creativity issue.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Sing said
“that’s why Jimmy’s here…[to call plays]”
uh…no, a lot of QB coaches or HC’s call plays even though they have an OC on staff. OC comes up with plays, game plans, etc. Play caller is someone with a better view of the game, what’s going on, adjustments, scenario, etc.
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
Please no!
We would have the Hostler debacle all over again! Lets find an OC with experience! Like Rathman!!!
It's not whether you win or lose... no, wait... of course it is!
by W.Tyler #26 Kicks @$$ on Sep 14, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope you are right.
I seem to remember having a good feeling about Hostler. Under Norm, Alex was doing great and everybody figured keeping Hostler (same offense, play calling, etc) would continue his development. It didn’t happen, and we ended up with the worst of our 7-straight OC’s… not because he was bad, but because I think he wasn’t ready. So the question is… is MJ ready?
It's not whether you win or lose... no, wait... of course it is!
by W.Tyler #26 Kicks @$$ on Sep 14, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I never had a good feeling about Hostler. It was like Nolan was stuck with him after Norv bolted and always came across that way. Hostler didn’t even sound prepared to take the job, his noted plan was try to mimic Norv.
The few articles about Mike Johnson paint him as a driven guy. While working his way up the NFL ladder he’s used his precious spare time to go learn offense from different practitioners with different philosophies. I don’t even think he shares a lot of philosophies in common with Raye but hitching himself to Raye was his opportunity to move into an eventual coordinator position.
Okay, I'm sold!
I didn’t like Ray from the start, so you’ve convinced me. Call Sing and tell him I approve of his changing OC’s! It’s not too late to have 8 OCs in 8 years! And that will give us another year of excuses for Alex! (ha ha – sorry, couldn’t resist!)
It's not whether you win or lose... no, wait... of course it is!
by W.Tyler #26 Kicks @$$ on Sep 14, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Why?
I do based simply on the fact that he’s not Jimmy Raye. But beyond that, he’s a mystery. Actually he seems to have presented a problem according to the yahoo article, since Jason Michael was the guy last year, and we really didn’t have that problem until he and Mike Johnson switched roles
by mr. instigator on Sep 14, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
But they did have these issues last year.
They had “headset issues”, blew timeouts and had delay of games all over the place. I was willing to give Sing the benefit of the doubt last year as it was his first real season, but he clearly isn’t figuring things out. This is becoming unacceptable.
You are right
But the article I read basically said those issues didn’t happen, at least not as dramatically as on Sunday.
I dunno. I want to be OC for just one game.
I honestly think I could do better than Raye, just give me the playbook, I’ll come up with a strategy, script some plays and have a bunch of contingency plays ready for any situation.
I promise to keep it mixed up and the defense will not be able to expect what’s coming. I’ll sub different players, use creative packages and throw down field from time to time.
I will call play action on 1st down, I’ll take shots deep on 2nd and 2 and I’ll have runs designed to go OUTSIDE. I’ll be the best OC we’ve had since Norv Turner.
by mr. instigator on Sep 14, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Geesh
Ginn is hurt and we need a WR that knows the offense.
Okay! Enough small talk let's get this division!
Paraag on the sidelines
sending in the signals.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 14, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
just not Baalke
he talks like he just smoked a carton of cigarettes and washed them down with gravel
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
i hope they
fill that open PS spot with tremaine brock now. we need to develope more of our own young corners. instead of filling the roster with aging mediocre CBs every offseason.
Crabtree
Apparently not everyone was listening to the radio, but Plummer really blasted Crabtree – and not just for running bad routes and failing to make catches. He didn’t seem to know where to line up, and had to be helped by other team members. At one point Smith had to reposition him on the other side. One has to wonder what’s really going on – is there an elephant in the room we’re not talking about?
Damn Oakland A's Elephant keeps getting out and messing up the 49ers
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
I posted above
I really think he is struggling with the playbook. Sing said that he wasn’t sure Texas Tech had a real playbook with the spread offense. If he’s struggling with playbook, the mistakes will continue for several weeks and his production won’t look anything like last year.
So get someone to TUTOR both Crabtree and Nate Davis on the playbook.
Kill two birds with one stone.
In the above Yahoo article it says that Johnson is now getting the calls on the sideline and not Jason Michael, so why not have Michael tutor these two?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
There's no way he's struggling with the playbook.
I mean, I guess there “is” a way, but I don’t think it’s likely at all.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The plays for him last year were kept simple
I really think it’s just that he didn’t practice them. Simplist explanation most likeliest
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Maybe not to a Davis degree
But what else could it be? I’m not saying I’m right. I honestly don’t know for sure either. I guess it could be mental errors?
Yeah but, there's a difference between not being up to speed and struggling with the playbook.
Struggling implies that he’s having problems understanding things. I don’t think that’s the case.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
Give Crabtree the benefit of the doubt
Let’s see if he rectifies the situation first.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Eh... nah.
We gave him the benefit of the doubt around game three of the preseason. I’m angry with him now, I’m just making the point that I don’t think he has problems understanding things.
I want him benched for week 2.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
I didn't mean he didn't understand things
I meant that because he had more on his plate than last year. But having all off season and arguably trying to skip preseason games, I agree that he should have been ready to go.
I’m pretty much in this camp.
Probably more like the “extremely short leash next week” camp for me.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 14, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Why
What has he shown you to give him the benefit of the doubt? He doesn’t like to train with the team. He doesn’t like to play in exhibition games. He is slow and can’t stretch the field.
What has this narcissistic jerk done to deserve your benefit of the doubt? I would like to know
For the same reason that the entire season is not over from one awful game
I’m just not going to assume that he’s avoiding putting in real work, because he thinks his talent can carry him no matter what. Not saying he should be coddled, but let’s see how he deals with his foul-ups this week.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
I believe Sing said
that Crabtree has to learn the playbook…the whole thing. Did you see his pathetic Isaac Bruce headfake Sunday too? Last year he used that well but this time it was like all he did was the headfake then lazily turned outside with the rest of his body…the DB damned near stopped with a “what the hell was that?” look on his face…
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
Let me get this straight ...
Johnson can’t understand the plays that Jimmy calls;
So, he wings it or let’s Alex call a time out;
When Alex gets the play and calls it …
He then has to explain to his diva WR where to line up and what route to run …
before the play clock runs out;
Then he has to worry about the fact that several of his receivers can’t catch;
Then he has to run for his life because his doesn’t get adequate protection from the OL;
But … God damn it, Alex is a bum — can’t play QB worth a shit.
Do I have that right?
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 14, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
also
Anthony Davis can’t hear the snap count because he’s listening to Justin Beiber on his Ipod…David Baas’ head is so large that his helmet is squishing his face and his eyes are bugging out so he can’t see the protections, Vernon is dreaming of his millions and yelling at Crabtree to line up in the right spot and Moran Norris is wondering if he took all his medicines this morning, especially “Power Blocker” which is actually a sedative but he thought it would make him a more physical FB…
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
Also forgot....
has to try and make protection adjustments and read the defense lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Sep 15, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I like this move.
Seems pointless, to be honest. If he’s here for his special teams, then I’m all for it. If we suddenly feel like we need to give him touches all the sudden, then I’m not so sure.
Then again, it appears like this is all for insurance more than anything. So I’m OK with it, and I’ve always been a fan of Jason Hill.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
its pretty obvious
if crabtree can only run a few routes, HAVE HIM DO IT AGAIN. it worked last year. give him 10 plays instead of 6 and lets go.
Pretty sure it is for ST.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Either Kurt Schott or Sing got some sense knocked into them
Taking on a player who contributes mostly on ST. If Hill was there Sunday, maybe Leon doesn’t return that kick for 41 yards.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
They have only three healthy receivers
If there were any injuries on Monday we’d have to throw out the spread formations Smith is most comfortable in. The team is nothing if not tremendously/notoriously conservative under current management (grrrrrr), so that explains that. Of course, the gunners didn’t exactly have me forgetting about Hill on Sunday so that could also have been a factor.
by BKisforSF on Sep 14, 2010 6:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
SInce he was cut, not signed by anyone, had an awful pre-season and now has zero expectations, Hill will have a 5 REC 78 YDs 1 TD game on MNF. Which would be on par with his career here.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
yep
Hill is best when coming out of the doghouse.
Guys it’s a depth move. A guy get’s hurt, you replace him. You need guys to practice with, and as insurance if you sustain another injury at the position. See: Wilhelm, Matt. A guy we picked up when Ulbrich left just to have another backup…then TKO got hurt a few times and it’s a good thing we had SOMEONE to stick in the game, even if he blows goats. But then he’s released this year cause we have Bowman and I guess Brooks. Depth move.
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
Word on the street (i.e. a sports reporter) here in AZ is that NOBODY on the 49ers likes Crabtree.
Gosh, I hope that’s not really true…
Bullshit! I live in AZ and I love the Niners (and detest the Cardinals)!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 14, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here I go to school in AZ
49ers los mejores!!!
by 49erSalvatrucha on Sep 14, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
i knew what you meant
where u guys at 9erfan50, salvat. im in PHX shoot we might have to catch a game
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
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49ers los mejores!!!
by 49erSalvatrucha on Sep 15, 2010 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah thats crap
him and morgan are real close
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
Cut Out The Cancer
Trade Crabs the cancer now while he still has trade value. If you don’t, he will fake an injury and go on IR and then be worth nothing.
He doesn’t want to be here and its so obvious, its stupid. He will never play his heart out here. He will go through the motions and only do what is necessary and that cancerous attitude will destroy the locker room.
Hill might help the ST issue...
But this would not be a problem had we kept Robinson. Granted, keeping Robinson has nothing to do with Ginn getting injured, but weakening ST made the injury more detrimental. I would love to know if Schottenheimer really got his player picks like Sing promised. I am totally losing confidence in this coaching staff.
It's not whether you win or lose... no, wait... of course it is!
by W.Tyler #26 Kicks @$$ on Sep 14, 2010 6:27 PM PDT reply actions
Hill is here because Ginn is hurt and out for a couple weeks and Crabtree isn't ready to do everything yet
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
how the hell
does this much crabtree hate get generated in one day?
yesterday it was alex, today its crabs. calm down guys. it was one game, in week one. we are going to need crabs this season.
by pwarren85 on Sep 14, 2010 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well...
There’s a difference between those two in my estimation: Smith played very well for most of the first half. Crabtree didn’t play well at any single point.
And to add to the difference, Smith is a well liked leader, yet when you see a team captain getting on the guy for his attitude, it makes it much easier to get low on him because it makes him seem like a prima donna. I really don’t buy that he should have sat out all of the pre-season games.
Basically, my point is I find people ragging on Crabtree as more justified than ragging on Smith. Granted, Crabs is young, and Smith has been around a long time with little success, so either way I understand why people rag on each of them. Doesn’t mean I agree with it, but I understand it.
Either way, I hope they both have success. That’s why we’re all 49er fans in the first place, right?
Touchdown Forty Niners!
To clarify one of my statements
When I said “when you see a team captain get on a guy” I meant to switch the subject from Smith to Crabtree.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Biggest difference actually...
is that 31 other teams would take Crabtree on their roster while it is highly unlikely Smith would be playing in the NFL but for the eternally springing hope and bottomless sympathy for his plight of our front office… and fans.
This is not to say that Crabtree’s ornery demeanor couldn’t change that over time, just that in the NFL, raw talent is a very wicked temptress.
by BKisforSF on Sep 14, 2010 7:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Frankly, I think the Smith bashers are not the same people who are here getting down on Crabtree. For one thing that group is too busy bashing Smith to pay attention to anything else. For another, this is a completely different beast: Crabtree has the appearance of being a diva while Smith can never be accused of that.
by cybermaldonado on Sep 14, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Crabs needs help
I think couch sing needs to contact jerry rice, to give this guy (crabs) some lessons on how to run a route. Hell ,I think jerry should be on the couching staff anyway.
R.L.
by Equus569 on Sep 14, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't work for three reasons ...
1. Crabtree wouldn’t accept the fact that Rice is better than he is.
2. He’s too self-centered to accept instruction from anybody else.
3. He will never be willing to work as hard as Jerry did.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 14, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
you are so mad at him
calm down those are just rediculous…he sure seemed to take to the tuteledge of Ike bruce you forget. I think thats exactly what he needs. Right now our best “route runner” is ziggy. So your telling me crab is supposed to get “gametime” advice and adjustments from him? Im not saying we needed to keep bruce but Morgan is the “vet” reciever right now. This was Crabs worst game as pro lets hope it stays that way!
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
I think more players and young coaches should do this but the reaching out has to come from them. If you want to improve in what you do it’s up to you to ask for guidance from people who excelled in your field of work. Otherwise it’s just some former player preaching to you about how things were in his day and what he did to be great.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I agree with Equus869 100 %
Sign Jerry Rice as an assistant WR’s coach if not the main WR"S coach, that would be tremendous help for our present and future receivers.
Also
I remember seeing a video showing that Rice still does the same workouts he used to do when he played in the NFL, let him take our receivers through his routine and see how they do.
by Lyken84 on Sep 14, 2010 7:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think why everyone is so down on him is
because he physically showed a lack of effort. you could see it in the way he played and the way in which he half-heartedly dove for the tackle on the INT. He’s not playing with the same fire he played with last year in AZ for example when he slipped on a catch and still managed to get up and go for the 1st down.
"We are not a charity, we cannot GIVE them the game." -Mike Singletary
geez there is alot of nonsense in this post
Hill was brought back for ST and whatever he can contribute on offense. He’s a veteran by being cut and resigned after week 1 his contract is not guaranteed its week to week now for him.
And with Crab guys get over seattle time to move forward. I love me some Crabtree but after sunday I was ready to burn my crab jersey without even wearing it yet. However I calmed down and realized I KNOW he will do what it takes to improve imediatly. Yeah last year seemed so easy because all he had to learn was the game plan for each individual week at 1 position. Yeah I expect more but now he has the whole playbook to know and from 3 different positions. Has anyone pointed out all his F ups where when he lined up in the slot. Apparently he doesnt know the scheme from there as well as he thought. But I am a believer that while of this pissing and moaning is going on here Alex and Crab are putting work to get this shtuf right!
We didnt sit through an entire off season to give up on our team now! Come on 9er faithful let the game go and lets get ready for MNF!
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
THIS
We didnt sit through an entire off season to give up on our team now! Come on 9er faithful let the game go and lets get ready for MNF!
Thanks man
"Came to see an offense and the wrong one showed up" - Randy Cross referring to the 49ers' offensive dominance over the Dolphins in Super Bowl XIX
by TexanByChoice49erFanByBirth on Sep 14, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
no prob man
but im sure you see this on here. Someone has to rally the NN troops before we revolt. i mean i love ya (on here bro) but ninjames your calling for crabs to be benched. “Come on man” how about hoping he lights it up MN and we can bask in it all next week. James i expect you to pump up my morning with the nuggets. Now monday it was called for but its time to move forward and get ready for some primetime!
Sidenote if you see this smileyman as a fellow manny lawson observer i was pretty impressed with his play
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
Yes
It’s MNF at home!! Home opener!! We’re supposed to be pumped. These doom and gloom attitudes are pathetic. Get over it. We want the players to have heart. What about the fans? have some faith. Some LOYALTY to our team. If we’ve hung with them for the last eight years why would we give up over one dang game?
"Came to see an offense and the wrong one showed up" - Randy Cross referring to the 49ers' offensive dominance over the Dolphins in Super Bowl XIX
by TexanByChoice49erFanByBirth on Sep 14, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not one dang game
It’s one dang game on top of another on top of another. Until this team becomes a winner, there is no it was just one dang game. Because it’s been one dang game for the last 8 years. Yes it was only the first game of the season and I still expect them to show up next week and win, but that one dang game was one to complain about for sure. That was about as bad as it gets collectively.
I want crabtree to be benched
After his abysmal showing on Sunday he doesn’t deserve to start. It’s one thing if he simply got outplayed due to better talent. It’s another thing when you go to play and you’re freaking clueless as to what’s going on.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Wow
You’re not actually very “smiley” are you?
"Came to see an offense and the wrong one showed up" - Randy Cross referring to the 49ers' offensive dominance over the Dolphins in Super Bowl XIX
by TexanByChoice49erFanByBirth on Sep 14, 2010 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't find anything to smile about
when the team suffers an embarrassing loss to an opponent whom we should’ve humiliated ourselves
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Agreed
And I’m pretty pissed off about the Crabtree situation too. I have a zero tolerance policy for not being prepared. I’m just on the fence about benching him. I guess I could only make that call if I were fully informed. We get a lot of good info, and we can deduce a lot on our own, but we don’t have ALL of the information. Maybe benching is what he needs. Maybe not. I certainly don’t want anyone coddling him though. If he’s got an attitude problem best to nip it now. If it’s something else then just deal with it accordingly and get his head in the game so he can contribute.
"Came to see an offense and the wrong one showed up" - Randy Cross referring to the 49ers' offensive dominance over the Dolphins in Super Bowl XIX
by TexanByChoice49erFanByBirth on Sep 14, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
we all felt this way monday..
but tuesday in the NFL means next week. Monday is to watch film see what the f ups were and get it corrected. its tues night alex jimmy mike and mike are coming up with the game plan for this week right now which will be introduced to the team tomorrow morning around 830 am.
Forget about crab if you wanna look back lets talk about the consistency of manny lawson in the game. Dude looks much stronger at the point of attack
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
Lawson
And still can’t get to the QB. That’s one subject we should be talking about as well. Freaking Manusky! Where the hell was that extravagant D he has been promising with lots of blitz packages? It was virtually the same 4 man rush the entire game. Defensive coordination in that game was probably just as bad as the offensive.
let it go man
MNF football in less than a week time to get the hype machine rollin for this week
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
You and I
Are the only ones pumpin up the volume for next week. I’m over the Seacocks game. Time to bring on the defending champs… Y’ALL BEST BE READY TO PROTECT YA NECK… WILLIS IS COMIN’!!!
by mr. instigator on Sep 14, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Brooks will be back though. He’s finna wreak some havoc on Brees!
by mr. instigator on Sep 14, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
That was sarcasm...
I realize that doesn’t convey very well on here.
"Came to see an offense and the wrong one showed up" - Randy Cross referring to the 49ers' offensive dominance over the Dolphins in Super Bowl XIX
by TexanByChoice49erFanByBirth on Sep 14, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
your a liar and you know it
i know in your heart you rather see crab catch 3 TD’s and redeem himself than ride the pine come one smiley. get over week 1 have faith on this tuesday a typical off day for players crab and alex and the guys were working to get better. I bet if crab can get 1 TD you’ll be smileyman once again!
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
I think that you misunderstand ... it is NOT week #1 in Seattle that's the problem!
The guy is a egotistical diva …
Won’t learn the playbook;
Milks a relative minor injury to dog it for four weeks;
Thinks that he’s too good to have to practice and develop timing with the QB;
Refuses to play in pre-season games to learn the plays, improve his skills, and develop timing with the QB;
Then puts on the weakest performance — both in skill and effort — of anybody on the team.
And, he doesn’t seem to think that there’s anything wrong with this! “I’ll do better next week.” Bullshit!
Bench him until he decides to become an adult and is motivated to earn what he is being paid!
Other than that, I’m OK with Crabs!
P.S. And Singletary let him get away with all this B.S. How’s that for developing team spirit?
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 14, 2010 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions
i think your over reacting
you could be onto somethings or…..
He is not a diva…the guy is way too shy and insecure, is learning the playbook the X, Z, and slot this year most second year receivers are still learning 1 spot think about that seriously. It’s not just run this route from this spot. An NFL offense ok ok UFL/jimmy raye/NFL offense is very complex routes are based off what the defense does. the QB and receiver have to see it the same way.
Yeah this should have been done during camp but just because you and I(tailback all valley 98) have toughed it out through neck sprains doesnt mean, that if crab wakes up and his neck feels any little twinge hes not willing to further push it for practice and exhibition.
The trainer told sing he was banged up crab told him he was banged up thats it. I heard he leaped for a catch had his legs taken out and landed on his head neck. For that i say take all the time you need.He and Alex put in extra time during the off season and i GUARANTEE you while were on here crying about last week last year the last 10 years him and alex are trying to get better in a HURRY!
i wish we still had a Ike bruce like figure around. Who is he supposed to ask about in game on field adjustments. Ziggy is our best practice route runner but has not input for real game advice. And as much as i love him jerry insn’t the guy hes not a coach sure i’d love them to train together but like jerry said at the hall of fame the kid from mississippi is done running routes let him enjoy his retirement and media hoopla hes doing. He doesnt have time to coach.
We both want success but hold off on killing the team till week 8 atleast
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
yeah
i remember sing saying Crab was getting ready to go and the trainer told sing his neck was still tweaked. Sing told him to “shut it down”
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
The entire offense looked completely clueless
So pointing out just Crabtree is making him a scapegoat. Yeah, he was bad, but I doubt benching Crabtree will fix the offense. However, Alex Smith can’t force passes to Crabtree if Crabtree is on the bench.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 14, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
With Ginn's injury I'd like to say
Dear Kyle Williams: get well really soon.
Dear Jason Hill: time to pimp out your special teams abilities and perhaps provide a mismatch in 4-wide sets.
Dear Michael Crabtree: everyone hates you except me and 10forTech. I will love you unconditionally until you retire. Having said that, please step up.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 14, 2010 8:12 PM PDT reply actions
Don't forget
DreZ still loves him too. That makes…mmmm…three of you.
I honestly do want to give him a chance too though. I really want to see him succeed because if he doesn’t get over his “issues” we’re in big trouble.
"Came to see an offense and the wrong one showed up" - Randy Cross referring to the 49ers' offensive dominance over the Dolphins in Super Bowl XIX
by TexanByChoice49erFanByBirth on Sep 14, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
andrew you can always count me in to love crabs too
but im allowed to hate him for a day. Now lets watch him turn all these “feelings” monday night
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
I need/want him to do better....
because i don’t want my jersey to go to waste!!! lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Sep 15, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't hate Crabs
I’m really disappointed in him, but overall I still love him
"All during film, I'm calling him Bam-Bam, like from 'The Flintstones,' because he hits everything. He is the truth" - Chad Ochocinco on Patrick Willis
BTW
When someone asked yesterday what Jason Hill was doing I said waiting at home for Tony Wragge to get cut. Looks like I was right sorta right.
yeah we were talking about this yesterday
totally had that feeling.
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
well then you get half a cookie haha
just messin
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
great
ginn is injured, alex smith is who we thought he was, and jason hill is signed out of desperation. no wonder we’re a laughing stock and will continue to be.
please at least put carr in now.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Alex Smith is garbage...
Well if it gets to that
I’d like to see what Troy Smith can do. Hard to say where he will be the playbook at any given point this season, but I still would like to see it if it came to that.
I agree we are the laughing stock of the NFL
Because who ever heard of an NFL player getting injured, I mean that is just absurd fire the training staff they should have done a better job taking care of our players. I think we should fire the training and conditioning coaches and get the world strongest man to replace him. He looks good and strong he will definitely be able to make all of our players like him.
OMG I can’t believe we signed a player because another one of our players got injured might as well just forget about the rest of the season right now. Fire our Front Office for trying to fix up some holes that we had due to injuries. We should replace Baalke with Bill Walsh he would know what to do and take us back to the Superbowl.
Don’t even get me started on our QB. Seriously Smith that dude was a bust as soon as he put on our jersey. I for one blame our QB coach we should have made Joe Montana our QB coach he was a great QB. Plus he can wear Step ups to the game and still be sponsored by them. The one thing I don’t agree with you is putting Carr in, if we are going to put in a new QB put in Davis that guy is going to be awesome and will lead us to the glory superbowl.
by manraj7 on Sep 14, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
God damn it! Another coaching screw-up!
Releasing Bruce Davis from the Practice Squad is a mistake!
Granted that they have to sign Hill to replace Ginn for the short term.
I understand that you must make room for Brock on the PS, but why waive Davis?
It seems to me that the OBVIOUS (especially after Sunday) correct moves are:
Waive Moran Norris from the final 53. No other team will sign him.
Promote Jehuu Caulcrick from the PS to the 53.,
Sign Jason Hill to replace Ginn for the short term.
Move Brock to the PS (assuming that he clears waivers), replacing Caulcrick.
Why lose a potentially good OLB when you don’t have to? Come on guys, think about it!
Can ANYONE make ANY CASE for keeping Norris? The guy contributes NOTHING!!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 14, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions
I'm not concerned about waiving Bruce Davis
We’ve got plenty of OLBs to develop.
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
don't think we have any on the PS tho
it’s kinda saddening, he played with a good motor. Plus Lawson and Haralson are looking to become run down LB’s only based on their history
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
I liked Davis too
but it’s looking like Manusky has a talent for finding OLBs
Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority
Work
This generational gap…..very few want to work for anything…..Does Crabtree still live at home>>>?? Momma’s boy needs to put up and Man up…Catch the damn ball and run the right routes. There is 24 hours in a day…figure it out….
RED AND GOLD ALWAYS BOLD>
i don't get it
Delanie Walker has been more reliable than Hill as a receiver. He could fill in for 4-wr sets. For help on special teams why not bring back Brit Miller who was doing an outstanding job on special teams and could fill in at fb or even ilb which he played in college? I hope Brock clears waivers. It would be nice to develop corners instead of pulling in other teams cast offs and giving them big contracts.
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