49ers-Saints: How to work in Brian Westbrook
One of arguably the more random occurrences this past Sunday was the fact that Frank Gore took every single snap at running back and Brian Westbrook did not get on the field once. The 49ers have spoken again and again about trying to find a running back that could take some of the load off of Frank Gore, so naturally one would imagine they'd use the guys they have.
Coach Jimmy Raye spoke about Westbrook when he addressed the media yesterday:
On whether there is a role for RB Brian Westbrook and why he didn't get on the field on Sunday:
"There is a role on the offense for him, he is [RB] Frank Gore's backup, that is his role. The game, as the game unfolded, the plan to insert him into the game and take some of the reps of Frank, turned in the second half as we got into a two minute offense with 10:29 to go in the third quarter, and from my perspective where we were best in the offense that we were operating in, because of the knowledge of the protection was with Frank there, so we lost the opportunity to get what he had planned to do, we lost that opportunity when we got in a 3 score or 4 score game, and lost that ability to be in a run - pass mix so to speak, because we were trying to two minute and score and get back into the game, and the people to answer your question, Brian is learning what we're doing, but what they were doing defensively in their sub-package in protection, it was more feasible for us to have Frank in there who has knowledge of it than to put someone in there to cut maybe a defender loose and hit the quarterback and create another problem."
I realize Westbrook is Gore's backup, but given Westbrook's talent in catching passes out of the backfield, wouldn't it make sense to have him out on the field in potential passing situations? Or is that crazy for me to think something like that?
It's fitting that the 49ers host the Saints this Monday Night. The Saints have a guy who is a younger, faster version of Westbrook in Reggie Bush. The Saints sometimes struggle with ways to utilize him, but we still see him mixed in. I realize Westbrook is still relatively new to the team, but you'd think there's a swing pass or some other plays he could run on a limited basis. Even if he were to simply act as a decoy, wouldn't the team get some value out of him?
As we head into Monday's game, how would you utilize Brian Westbrook? If he is still learning the protection schemes, couldn't you figure out ways to get him onto the field? The 49ers need to figure out ways to jump start the offense, and an excellent pass-catching running back would seem to be a great addition. Frank Gore can catch passes, but Westbrook was built for that role.
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WITH Frank
is how you use him, for now. Dive fake to Gore, pitch to WB or play action screen to WB. I personally think you should mix him in EARLY in the game to mix up the looks. This all goes back to the FB issue. Hey Frank, the passing game works better out of 12 personnel, without a FB. The run game would be WAY more diverse and unpredictable with WB in the game and NOT a FB (21 or 22 personnel).
Oh, and Hey Jimmy…if you have WB and Frank in the game in 22 personnel you can always motion WB out to the other WR position, flex the TE’s and now you’re basically back in 12 personnel, the preferred package. Throw the famed smoke screen out there to him, he can make guys miss. Then you still have Gore in to protect! Get creative man!
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Start in the 22 package
Crabtree, Walker, Vernon
Gore, Westbrook
check defense at the line. If they’re in a base set, motion WB out and you’re in 12 personnel. Motion him to the slot and flex the TE out to WR…now if they’re showing man to man, that’s a CB on a TE and a LB or Safety on Westbrook. Defense calls timeout or a big mismatch is on.
If they show you nickel, OK, bring the TE’s in and run counter all day
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by Tre9er on Sep 17, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm calling it the
GoreWest22 package for now…someone come up with a better, catchy name like “Blade” or something
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Those options would definitely keep them guessing
It’s been very limited with Norris in there and you pretty much know what the play will be with Norris. With WB, he opens up the playbook in so many different ways. I like the idea of motioning WB out with Gore in the backfield in 12.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Love that you're up early working on this
Seriously, let’s get you an internship to work with Ray and MJ. Not that they don’t know this stuff, but an extra voice in the ear pushing a few of these plays into the game plan as the season moves forward.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Agreed.
I dunno what the deal is with their love of Norris, but having Westy back there with Gore would give us SO MANY OPTIONS! How would they cover all our players?
But that would require Raye thinking creatively…good luck.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Excellent.
How about a 2RB shotgun formation? Plenty of possibilities and the ability to simplify protection based on what Smith sees at the line (assuming they get the playcall in on time).
On another topic, if Raye is implying his two minute offense couldn’t put up any points in 25 minutes against a lower-tier defense, shouldn’t he be fired immediately?
I call coach speak
I have a feeling he’ll get a few 3rd and long snaps this week.
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i'd use him in wing-back formations...
that way, the defense can’t key in on just Frank. Screens and pitches…that seemed to work for Brian back in Philly, so I don’t see why similar plays wouldn’t work here. In short, put them both out there at the same time and they won’t be able to stack 8 or 9 in the box.
agreed
Isn’t that also known ads the pro form? Whatever it is, I like the idea of split backs in the backfield. You just have so many damned options with that formation it isn’t funny, especially with those two. Add in the mix of our TE’s and WO’s and we could have an extremely diffifult offense to defend against.
That, however, take a little creativity – mind you, only a LITTLE
by ColoradoNiner on Sep 17, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
i think that's why Fooch started this thread...
Coach reads these posts, i think…and if he does, i’m sure word gets passed along….
Doubt Sing reads these posts
Anymore. We can hope…
its so goddamn annoying
that we can come up with plays for the guy, and our coordinator cant. “his position is frank’s backup” f that. we are going to need to use everything we’ve got to beat the saints.
If they can come up with a play ...
… for Norris they sure as heck can get a few for Westbrook …!!
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If jimmy was fired who would possibly take over 4 him or maybe just demoted that way
will still run his offense?
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 17, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Why don’t the niners use Westbrook? And why do they keep Moran Norris?
Maybe the coaches are worried that they might hurt Frank Gore’s feelings.
Frank Gore has been getting a free ride since he became the starter. He gets no criticism when he plays poorly. He has had some really bad games that are always blamed on the OL and/or the OC. He gets his personal friend as a FB even though that FB stinks. He whines at the suggestion that he share the load and get fewer touches. He is never criticized for failing to adjust, bounce to a different hole or outside, it’s always the OL’s fault. He is constantly complimented for being the team’s best offensive player even on the days when he isn’t. Is he the so-called Bell Cow? Not really, just one of the guys.
Contrary to what some have claimed, neither Alex nor Crabtree are the babied ones on the niners, that distinction belongs to Frank Gore. I have to believe that Frank Gore is a better man than this. He needs to step up, put the team first, and tell the coaches, "It’s ok for you to treat me like a man."
I kinda agree with you. He never gets much criticism and although he is a beast and a great running back, he does make mistakes.
I really hope the coaching staff isn’t trying to coddle him by not playing westbrook, but it sounds like that’s what they’re doing…
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Gotta agree with this somewhat.
Lost in the facts of the blowout loss on Sunday was the fact that Frank Gore didn’t do anything at all vs. a base defense that didn’t put any extra effort into stopping the run.
Can you spot the bust?
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by Fearless Frog on Sep 17, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It finally hit me...
We played bad in our first game to lull the Saints into underestimating us so we could win on Monday Night Football. We know after this we will run out the rest of the games in our division so losing that one was not a huge loss for us.
That must be it….
I keep thinking of the Chargers
what did they win like 10 straight last year to finish season?
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of course, half of those wins
were against the Broncos, Chiefs and Raiders
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Nitwitter
yeah, though not the 2009 versions
the Chiefs seem noticeably better, the Raiders might be better, and Broncos are decidedly worse, IMO
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What a joke...
Raye doesn’t know how to be creative enough to get the most out of our players. The scheme he runs would’ve been good for us when we had no, or underacheiving weapons. Now that we have players, his scheme isn’t maximizing the talent. Don’t you think Sean Peyton would be able to get ridiculous offenisve capability out of this team, even without an elite QB like Brees?
Use Dixon to spell Frank
Use Westbrook to enhance Frank and confuse the hell out of the Saints.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Exactly...
Dixon definately proved he can be a capable backup to Gore. Westbrook is a talent who should be utilized.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 17, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope Raye is being coy and we DO see some of WB on MNF
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Nitwitter
We have the most dynamic backfeild in the NFL
And these F’n coaches cant do anything with them. It freakin pathetic how inept Jimmy Raye is with creativity.
You're not crazy Fooch
But I do think the answer from last game is the lack of plays in the second half. The team did not move the ball well enough to have plays for BW to spell Gore. Had the score been different, or the team moved the ball in that half, no doubt we see BW.
One place I’d rather see BW is in goal line with Gore. Both players can block. Both can catch. Split them, or put one in motion as Tre has said, and the defense can’t pinch the middle. This would open up the middle runs that Gore ran near the goal line but also provides an option for a toss play or throwing to either guy. He can be useful as a decoy or make Gore the decoy. This might also open the middle for VD.
I still wonder if BW was less than 100%. If so, it makes since to not put him in a game we’re losing by three scores.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Alex play fakes the ball to BW and runs towards the pylon!
TOUCHDOWN!
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Really?
The Niners were basically out of the game in the 4th. They had plenty time to work Westbrook in and give him some game reps and at least get something positive out of the game. But they didn’t. In fact, it didn’t even occur to them and it still hasn’t occurred to them, that’s how overwhelmed they are by the game of football—they can only focus on what’s directly in front of them. Can’t think ahead, can’t game plan, can’t design any plan with more than one objective at a time.
This team is a farce. After watching Bill Walsh et al from the 80s and 90s, it’s amazing how far we’ve fallen, how stupid and inept the entire organization has become. Our coach is blowing up on local radio, disputing the factual basis of Yahoo reports on the one hand, and then talking about a rat on the other, not even understanding that a rat implies that the things in the Yahoo report were factual, all the while ignoring the real problems that affect his team.
I don’t even care about Westbrook. One player isn’t going to change the fundamentally flawed approach this team has to the game of football.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
You confimred my point
Why would you put a possibly less than 100% BW in for a 4th Q that you trail by three scores? This is a fifteen game season. Why have him re-tweak his hamstring in a lost game? Or miss a blitz pickup when it’s obvious we’re passing so that Alex can get hurt. You’re acting as though him being in there for a few plays alters the outcome.
that’s how overwhelmed they are by the game of football
You need to slow down and take a breath. One game down. One coming up.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I confirm nothing...
If he’s injured, he shouldn’t be in uniform. If he’s in uniform, let’s help him get acquainted faster by getting him some game reps, and at least get something positive from the game. Coaches who have a firm grasp of their team and situation would have jumped all over a chance to make lemonade from lemons, while Singletary and Raye obviously were too overwhelmed to do that. They got hit in the face and their brains stopped working.
As for slowing down, taking a breath, it’s only one game, blah, blah, blah, that’s a very good point in the general sense that it’s too early to panic. But this isn’t even panic, this is seeing the same mistakes from Singletary’s first season, seeing them in the first game of the season, seeing him fly off the handle on the radio after getting legitimate questions about his coaching staff’s preparedness, and seeing him—once again—overwhelmed by the gravity of the situation. Singletary hasn’t learned, he just keeps crapping his pants and bugging out his eyes.
See, I think this team has plenty of talent to rebound and have a great year, win the West, win a playoff game or two. I think Alex Smith, for all his faults, can be a playoff caliber QB in the right situation. But I just think this current situation, from the Yorks on down, is about as far as a guy can be from the right situation. When you have dumb, uncreative, fundamentally frightened people leading your organization, you’re doomed to fail
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 17, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
We just disagree on the larger point.
Yet we agree about this:
I think this team has plenty of talent to rebound and have a great year, win the West, win a playoff game or two. I think Alex Smith, for all his faults, can be a playoff caliber QB in the right situation.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
hmmm
a good time to use brian was after the umpteenth time of frank not getting any yards. good job jimmy raye. they stuff frank all day and you keep westbrook on the bench because he’s only “frank’s backup”. we’re done for.
Alex Smith is garbage...
Perhaps Sing and Raye were planning to keep their playbook relatively closed last sunday vs the seahawks
This would allow the Saints to have less film to study (ie incorporating westbrook in the passing and run game). This would make sense if they planned on the seahawk game being an easy win prior to week 1, and would allow them to startle the Saints Defense week 2 with new looks in a bigger game on national television vs. the Champs.
C'mon Beane! Close off the bottom deck and reopen the top!
I've heard this sentiment many times over the last week...
and it’s really nothing more than wishful thinking. We’ll see the same stagnant offense on Monday that we always do, run up the middle twice and no 3rd down conversion. I can see this offense reverting to what we were forced to witness in 2007.
by 9thevolution on Sep 17, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
The offense should looked horrible.... it is wishful thinking. But perhaps, to some degree, a possibility
C'mon Beane! Close off the bottom deck and reopen the top!
no, you may be right in that the offense was boring last week
but maybe not for the same reasons…they didn’t know what to expect from Seattle, didn’t game-plan much I don’t think. It may have some added benefit in that the Saints only have that vanilla, poorly-executed showing to go on…but I don’t think that was the intent all along.
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Yup , i've said the same thing ...
… ( Sing ) this what we’re going to do , run our play’s no matter what personal they show , dictate the game the way we practised all summer , hence the reason there was no second half adjustment’s …!!
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I think you would agree
That this is not the 2007 offense. That team would not have dominated by moving the ball the entire first half as they did this past Sunday. The two big mistakes, Alex/Norris, Crabtree’s drops, had nothing to do with play calling.
By Sunday night Raye will be blamed for the CA budget crisis, drafting of Balmer and decrepit nature of Candlestick. We need a game.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
My point was simply that MANY of the readers echoed those sentiments
I highly doubt it’s an isolated incident. The first half was good minus the D choking in the final minutes and the few offensive errors. We went with our plan to win and once it didn’t work, the offense regressed heavily. I don’t expect to see anything more than what we saw in the second half if we get stuck in a shootout, which will be us getting blown out weekly.
by 9thevolution on Sep 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Alex bares responsibility for the 2nd half
Raye can be criticized for not running the ball enough in the 2nd half, thus becoming predictable. But that runs counter to your argument that we run up the middle twice then don’t convert on third down. The reason we did not move the ball in the second half was that we stopped running, became predictable thus putting our QB under consistent pressure, then Alex reverted to bad mechanics. Raye has only a piece of the ownership of went wrong.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
yeah
Alex should have executed, he’s not off the hook for that…but Raye and co need to stop this “we’re way behind…311 is the only way to get us back in the game!”
It’s a stupid approach. There should never be one single formation you go to when you’re down and expect to use it an entire quarter or half and succeed with it, unless it’s something you’ve isolated as a mismatch issue for the defense…which our Posse formation (3 WR) is NOT.
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Yep.
Even down multiple scores, Walker needs to be a part of the offense. In a way, he’s employing a formation that hopes to get a quick score but that’s the team attitude that got us in trouble once we fell behind. DBs gambling. Offense trying to be something they’re not. If we could’ve gotten a TD, even on a seven minute drive that includes running Gore and short throws to the TEs, we could have made it 21-13 or 28-13 in the early 4th. You have to keep yourself in the game and be what you are.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
In short
He panicked, like always.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 17, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
he does do that a lot when we're behind
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Nitwitter
Part of the maturity problem of this team
Panic and a desperation to make up the deficit all at once. What’ s odd is they didn’t really do that last season so you’d think the experience would have taught them somthng useful. Hopefully this was a one game blip, where the expectation to beat a weaker opponent got the best of them. Let’s hope they learned from it.
Side note: Mike Sando has a blog entry that the 49ers have the youngest starting offense in the NFL. Wouldn’t have thought that.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
if you stop and think about it...
in 12 personnel…everyone’s well under 30…two rookie OL’s, a 26 year old QB and RB, 2nd year WR, young TE’s…
Yet our defense is one of the oldest in the league…Soap, Franklin, J.Smith, Clements, Takeo, Lewis
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I assume you meant #11 and not 311, the band
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Agreed...
The entire team played like dog crap last week, including the defense who we’ve been touting as a potential top 3-5 unit. Everyone has their share of the blame, but everyone here should stop diluting themselves into thinking that we purposely kept a “vanilla” gameplan because it was the Seahawks. The team was outplayed in every facet by a weaker team than the Saints so everyone should expect an even worse trouncing this week.
It’ll start the exact same way, with a stacked box to stop Gore from running up the middle, which I can almost guarantee will be the first play of the game. On the flip-side, the Saints first offensive play of the year was a pass for nearly 30 yards on an unsuspecting defense.
We shouldn’t expect some hugely creative gameplan all of a sudden because it’s not coming.
by 9thevolution on Sep 17, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
it's not why we got beat
but it was vanilla.
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Nitwitter
When hasn't a Jimmy Raye offense been vanilla?
Can you spot the bust?
8/31/10 - We're going to trade every starter besides Aaron Curry and Julius Jones for 4th-6th round picks
by Fearless Frog on Sep 17, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Crabtree's drops were huge
Targeted 8 times, only pulled in 2. It was frustrating, because you expect Crabtree to come down with those. If he’s not getting it done, then you gotta bench him and make him earn his way back.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Crabtree gonna make me knock him out
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Nitwitter
Please...
Sure, there were failures to execute on certain plays, but how exactly do you explain the inexplicable decision to bench Walker? All the offensive success we had last Sunday involved the two TE formation, and for whatever reason they went away from Walker and the offensive success went with him.
And who took Walker out? That would be Raye. Not only can’t he call a play on time, he doesn’t even know why he’s successful on those rare occasions when he is…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
because Raye has a cheat sheet
that stupidly says if you’re down by 2 TD’s you have to go to Posse
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Nitwitter
If Raye had to rank his receiver choices in a scoring deficit
It would probably be Vernon, Crabtree, Morgan, Ginn and then Delanie last. Delanie should actually be the #2 option and Crabtree should no longer be an option.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
I think Delanie should be higher
but I don’t understand why he comes off the field for a WR. It’s like Raye can’t come up with enough plays in 12 personnel…
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I highly doubt that...
You don’t throw a game (which is essentially what this would amount to) in order to confuse your next mood. You don’t play less than your best and expect to win in the NFL.
"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 17, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a joke
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Thanks a lot Debbie Downer
When Singletary responded with we might use Westbrook against the Saints, I think that really means we will and we will not tell you how.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Or maybe it means
“If the Saints are listening, that’s one more thing they’ll need to prepare for.”
by DeathValleyCarl on Sep 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
So he knows who Westbrook is
That represents progress right? Small steps men, small steps.
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by LondonNiner on Sep 17, 2010 10:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
he only knows
that his name is not “Eastbrook” at this point.
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Florio thinks the rat is Johnson. Anyone agree with that?
by Rod Blogojevich on Sep 17, 2010 10:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
As Singletary said
Don’t base a man’s entire career on a dag-gum Yahoo commercial. I don’t want to talk about the Yahoo deal. It really pisses me off now that I sit here and think about it. Whoever said it, … it’s over. I want to move forward.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/16/SP991FF273.DTL#ixzz0zoAioLxt
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
I think
John Madden voice
The 49ers need to come out and score as many points as possible. What the 49ers need to do, if they want to get a touchdown, they need to get the ball in the end zone. That’s how you win the game. When you kick a field goal, you aren’t going to get the three points unless the ball goes through the posts. The game plan isn’t as complex as it sounds. If the Saints score more points in the game than the 49ers, the 49ers are going to leave this game with a loss.
"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi
FAIL
you left out at least 3 “this guy” and more than 12 “Boom!’s”
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Nitwitter
That was a heck of a play.
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by LondonNiner on Sep 17, 2010 10:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow!
I really can’t believe I didn’t get one of those in there.
"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi
by Haggardninja on Sep 17, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Sigh
I guess I need to brush up on my Madden speak.
"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi
by Haggardninja on Sep 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
BOOM!
Tough actin Tinactin
9/8/10: 49ers go 11-5, Lose to Falcons first round. Smitty: 3500/25/15. Gore: 1300 yards, 10 TDs. Crabtree: 1000 yards, 7 TDs. Vernon: 900 yards, 8 TDs
by MichaelClutchtree on Sep 17, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
you get this big guy here and he runs over here and then that guy comes up and so he pushes him out of the way and then you got this guy over here who comes in out of nowhere and then BOOM! Heck of a play.
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just on Jimmy Raye ...
… I meant to post this first thing today but forgot, so apols if anyone else has posted, but someone has started spoofing Jimmy on Twitter. It’s hilarious.
On move so can’t post link but Takeo re-tweeted ‘Jimmy’ late last night your time, so I’m sure you saw it Tre?
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by LondonNiner on Sep 17, 2010 10:57 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
i don't follow a lot of players but I'll go find it
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found it
whoever this is (I think it’s the same guy) he’s funny on both @jimmyraye and @natedavis7
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Nitwitter
this is hilarious
NateDavis7: went over da film of seattle n alex’s ints..sing blamed me for not noing da playbook
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Nitwitter
Jimmy Raye
Not nearly as funny as @fakefatjamarcus. That’s been around for over a year now. Amazing it’s still around with Jamarcus off the radar.
by David Fucillo on Sep 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I love fakefatjamarcus
"All during film, I'm calling him Bam-Bam, like from 'The Flintstones,' because he hits everything. He is the truth" - Chad Ochocinco on Patrick Willis
From NateDavis7
@JimmyRaye how am i suposed 2 do good when u callin da plays like kenny from south park?
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
It's great isn't it ..
… last night ‘Jimmy’ was telling Takeo to “git some nutrients” – that was the tweet Takeo re-tweeted. Very funny.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
by LondonNiner on Sep 17, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally I would have installed a no huddle package.
Gore, Crabtree, Davis, Westbrook, Morgan, and pretty much stand up Vd and use him at normal position and work 10 to 15 plays, however our offense can’t execute the simple stuff so it wouldn’t work. Expect Westbrook 2-4 plays this week.
BOO, scared you!!! Blew you to Smitherines, Forget the Marines I have machines that like to spit and read mad magazines -R Noble
If I was Westbrook I'd be a little pissed
I don’t think he signed here to ride the pine. He’s played all kinds of nicked up the past few years and still been effective when on the field. I should know, I had him in fantasy one year and never knew if he’d play on Sunday, deactivated him, then he’d score 20+ points.
Remember when Carr signed he said he asked Sing if what he did in practice was going to matter? I am betting Westbrook wanted a similar opportunity, to prove he could contribute and then be given the chance. Thus far neither has elevated themselves in the depth chart, or seen the field (though Carr’s position is obviously different than RB but at this point it’s looking like Troy Smith will overtake Carr at some point…but you can perhaps attribute that to Carr’s play thus far). I hope this doesn’t turn into a pissed off player who’s ready to roll and the coaches don’t get him in the game.
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
If I was Westbrook and was sitting on the bench for that game
I would be like, oh %#$!, what did I just sign up for? These past-their-prime runningbacks like Brian and LT still have some left in the tank. As long as they stay healthy, they can still be dangerous. I thought it was funny how Shonn Greene got shut down so easily Monday, but LT was playing like it was 2007.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
well WB was never a bell-cow workhorse
I mean, he got all the touches but they used him on the edge a lot and split out…he wasn’t a between the tackles 30 times a game guy…so why sign him to just be Frank Gore’s backup? You think WB would be a good fit running our power scheme? I think Baalke and company knew WB could bring some things to the table but Raye has fumbled the ball on it thus far.
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
I totally agree
I don’t think Raye’s game plan has taken into account the weapons the Niners have. Westbrook could have helped out a lot last Sunday. And when asked to explain why WB didn’t get into the game, Raye’s explanation was that they needed Gore in to block for the passing game. But WB is the best RB on the team at picking up blitzes and blocking for the passing game. He has excelled at it for years. So, I think it is a matter of Raye becoming familiar with the weapons he has and using those weapons at the right times. WB should get 3-4 plays a game at least. A screen pass or 2 would really help the Niners young Offensive line and get WB running in space where he has excelled in the past.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
I just meant that people have generally written Brian and Ladainian off as has-beens. Backs like Brian and Reggie Bush should almost never be used for power schemes.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Brian Westbrook can help this team!
Westbrook is the ultimate screen pass running back. There is no reason why the Niners can’t run a screen pass or 2 to help slow down the Saints pass rush and to get the ball to Westbrook in space where he has proven over the years to be very effective. I am sure the Niners have screen plays in their playbook. It is a relatively safe play as passes go. Westbrook is very good at running screens. So what gives? I would expect to see Westbrook run at least 2 screens a game. He is a threat that has to have the ball in his hands to be effective. He is a good pass blocker, and is very adept at picking up the blitzing linebacker or safety. That is what makes me wonder about Jimmy Raye’s quote in the paper and his reasoning behind not using Westbrook more last Sunday. Raye expressed concern about Westbrook’s ability to pick up the blitz, but Westbrook is probably the best back the Niners have at doing JUST THAT! Plus you have the added threat of Westbrook even as a decoy to keep the defense guessing. It really seemed like the SeaHags knew what plays the Niners were gonna run before the ball was snapped. The Seattle defense isn’t as good as they showed last Sunday. I think the EX-Niners on the SeaHags were able to give their team a tactical advantage last Sunday. HOPEFULLY that isn’t the case on Monday Night. I do not expect the Niners to win on Monday, but it is imperative that they look like a team that can compete and execute plays. I hope that Westbrook is part of the Offensive game plan this week. Surely there are times in a game when a screen play would make sense. Especially considering the difficulties our young offensive linemen are having, one would think that screen plays would be very effective. But the most important thing this week is that they iron out the communications problems they were having and execute the plays that are called. AND on defense, the DB’s need to tighten up their coverage and stop biting on pump fakes. That is High School fundamentals. It is very important that the Niners get pressure on Breeze, and hopefully with the addition of Ahmed Brooks, the Niners will bring the pressure. There were far too few blitzes last Sunday and almost no pressure.
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
just shoot me!
“There is a role on the offense for him, he is Frank Gore’s backup. That is his role.”
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