49ers-Chiefs: Can you hear me now?
by David Fucillo on Sep 22, 2010 7:00 AM PDT
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The 49ers currently sit as 2.5 point favorites on the road against a 2-0 Kansas City Chiefs squad. The Chiefs stunned the San Diego Chargers (although they're a notoriously slow starting team under Norv) and then gritted out a tough one at Cleveland. A mix of impressive and not so impressive, but they still at 2-0.
I actually think this game presents an important challenge for the 49ers continued development. After week one, the big uproar concerned the communication issues between OC Jimmy Raye, QB coach Mike Johnson, and QB Alex Smith. The 49ers switched to a number system in which Raye read off simple numbers to Johnson who sent it in to Smith who then got the corresponding play off his wristband. All in all, the system seemed to work fine. There was one bad play with Vernon Davis being late on the field, but for the most part everything seemed to go ok.
Of course, it helps that it was a home game. The 49ers home crowd was nice and loud when the defense was on the field, but as is the case when the offense is on the field at home, they quieted down and communication problems did not seem to arise.
Now, the 49ers head to Arrowhead Stadium. The Seahawks continue to claim Qwest Field is the loudest stadium. And while it might have loudest decibel measurement, the stadium was also specifically designed to keep in the noise and is state of the art. Arrowhead Stadium, even with renovations, is old school enough that it can still bring an intimidating noise factor.
Given the noise element, do folks expect to see a return of false starts and wasted timeouts? Will we see frustration once again on the face of Alex Smith?
I would argue that the challenge posed by the Chiefs and Arrowhead Stadium could arguably be more important than that of the Saints this past week. After all, any team should be able to get up for a home opener on MNF against the defending champs. The 49ers real problems from the Seahawks game could very well have been buried for a week amidst the home atmosphere. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's something that people have to keep in mind.
And thus, the 49ers will need to show they've truly addressed their road woes from week one.
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It will be a huge test...
Our offensive line just looked plain sluggish getting off the snap in Seattle, whereas we looked very crisp in SF. This game will show if we have made progress in this area.
I am concerned about this game, however. I think we can hold up okay against their offense (Charles is their only weapon who is a concern), but their defense is playing fast and their special teams return units are ridiculous. We have definitely missed Michael Robinson over the past few weeks – while Mays fills in physically, he doesn’t have the experience Robinson has, so he’s sometimes out of position or flies in too fast.
So it could be a defensive struggle decided by special teams – I am obviously not comfortable with that. Who thought we’d be missing Ginn so much at this point, even if just for the excitement factor?
Think you will be fine.
No doubt Chiefs are a much improved team but so are you. After your Niners play against my Saints, I say it will be another tough game, but you win. Stop with the turn overs and you get the win. Remains to be seen how your Niners play away. My money is on the Niners. Good luck
by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 22, 2010 7:39 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We maimed the crowd, by walking down the field, in Seattle but we couldn't deliver the final blow by scoring a TD.
If we can score early in KC and knock the crowd out of the game we should win.
Manraj , Seattle game may be the best thing to happen to ya.
Sometimes a good ass whip’n in life and a game is just the wake up some need. Keep da faith. Who dat!
by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 22, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok
Sounded like our players climbed up into the stands and started severing arms and legs off fans with machetes and swords.
by mr. instigator on Sep 22, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
You wont get Arrowhead out of the game...
I promise we will be loud from the first snap to the last
Chiefs Will
you ever been to arrowhead?
he’s not playin those fans don’t quit. We better go in there with the mentality to whatever it takes to win! The Chiefs are not gonna lay down
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
I expect a let down
I am hoping for a convincing Niners win but the past history is not promising. Every time they patch one leak in the boat (Raye’s inability to get plays to Smith on time), another one shows up (special teams, ball security). Singletary and his staff has not shown the ability to get their team ready to play on the road. A short week and an early start does not bode well. I’m particularly troubled by the smugness of some comments from Gore and others about how they whupped up the Saints, which is reminiscent of the Nolan era, as are the turnovers differentials. If this team does not figure out how to play consistently for four quarters at a decent level without making mistake, they will be 0-4 in a hurry. I hope I’m wrong. I’m fed up with losing.
Ball security should not be a chronic issue with the Niners. Last year we were pretty good with the TO differential. Special teams, however, is a huge concern. Special teams can make or break a game, because of the potential for yards lossed, gained and penalties. No one has really stepped up to fill MRob’s or McKillop’s shoes yet.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
your very right and i hate it
our recent history does not bode well but that will change at some point this is the perfect time
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
Mood see above comment.
Didn’t see Gore comment but that sort of attitude does not bode well. A little fear is a good thing sometimes. Good luck with dem Chiefs.
by saints-fan-in-miss on Sep 22, 2010 8:41 AM PDT reply actions
Crowd Noise
The difference between the Seattle game and the New Orleans game was the offensive line play. Specifically, our offensive line could not get off the snap using the silent count and thus could not get a push on rushes and were late on pass protections, even though Seattle’s D-line was inferior to New Orleans D-line. KC’s fans took note. They saw us get rattled and fall apart in Seattle. Expect the loudest stadium the Niners have ever experienced this Sunday. If the Niners don’t get up for this one it will be a long, long day in KC.
by Andrew Hutchinson on Sep 22, 2010 9:50 AM PDT reply actions
First 3 drives will be "establishing the run" anyway
Hopefully there won’t be any 3rd and long on any of those.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
this is my fear.
Jimmy Raye is predictable in calling the first series. He wants to establish the run so he comes out in power I and runs it up the middle. I would come out in power I and play action to VD on a drag route or Crabs on a medium cross over the middle. Raye needs to loosen up the defense first before we can pound the rock the way he wants to.
Uh, not the first series, how about at least the first three series?
From my notes, here is a summary of the first ten offensive plays in the Saints game:
Six runs up the middle — 5 by Gore, 1 by Westbrook (wildcat) for no gain;
Two kicks — one after the safety;
One center over Smith’s head for safety;
One attempted pass.
Aghhhh! How incredibly creative!
An idea! How about crumpedup15 for OC?
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 22, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It's mostly about what Sing wants
Raye was not a 3 runs in a row play caller in previous stints. At KC, Tony G was used heavily and early on. I think even the 80’s Bears team passed more with their opening drives, although I am too young to remember that sort of thing. Somebody old needs to help me out with that. >_>
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
I think they want to jab at the belly of the defense
and see if there’s any running lanes, then evaluate the pics and see what if anything is there…just my guess
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
well your 3 series
are pretty common most teams script the first 15 plays…..just that we dont execute from the begining to have a solid opening drive instead of 3 three and outs
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
There were 71,297 at the Chiefs home opener and 67,044 at the Seahawks home opener
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Seahawks have a weird stadium design so the crowd noise is amplified
don’t know if it is the same with KC
Arrowhead is alive an well again
The field level noise is much louder than Seattle. on top of all that it keeps all the air pressure an sound swirling around. If it was designed to i dont know but it does. Arrowhead has been weak the last 3 years but this fan base is VERY excited about there team. I would guarantee that Arrowhead is back as the loudest stadium.
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Sep 22, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I would estimate about 69k for this Sunday’s matchup. It will be genuinely deafening unlike the Seahawks dome-assisted noise. This will be another test for Anthony Davis.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
He's exceeded
my expectations thus far. Looking like one heck of a pick.
by mr. instigator on Sep 22, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Keep in mind that it can go up however
The new Arrowhead can seat up to 81k, so if your worried about the noise from 71k, it can get much worse. And Arrowhead is also designed well to echo noise, at the K-State vs Iowa State game this last weekend it was only half full and it was still pretty loud in there. It is a very vertical stadium that reverberates noise well, it’s gonna be loud. But no matter what happens it will be a very close and a very good game. I’m excited.
at one point monday alex
hit 12 passes in a row a career best if could come out sunday and start like that for once I think we all would feel very good. We’ve been waiting….. Time to deliver this game means so much to such a young season cant wait
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
I'd love it! But, it won't happen! Raye will run Gore on at least 10 of the first 15 plays. Sigh!!!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Sep 22, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
i didnt mean the first plays
just for alex to come out sharp right from the begining no “warm up” first qt. That “laser accuracy” (maiocco) from the begining you know
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
I have a question.
Why are we not utilizing Westbrook. I know he had one play last week. But surely we must have a formation with both Gore and Westbrook out there at the same time.
Did I miss something? Is there a reason we aren’t utilizing him?
~In Heaven all the interesting people are missing~
by ~Yellow Fever~ on Sep 22, 2010 12:06 PM PDT reply actions
still new to the offense
he’ll be incorporated more and more each week
Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!
Alright Yellow
I gotta ask..always do.. who’s the chick in the avatar?
by mr. instigator on Sep 22, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Reon Kadena
The girl is Reon Kadena
~In Heaven all the interesting people are missing~
by ~Yellow Fever~ on Sep 22, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it goes like this:
Look at what Gore produced…why take him off the field?
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
but I agree
we need to diversify
I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter
If this game was at Candlestick I’d expect the 49ers to beat the Chiefs by 20 points, unfortunately it’s not. Lots of factors are working against a good 49ers performance this week:
a) Post MNF, traveling across country never bodes well for any team
b) 10AM game, 49ers tend to start out flat
c) Chiefs home field is awesome. As loud as Seattle but unlike Seattle the noise is a constant.
d) Special teams, even good coverage units would struggle against this Chiefs team
e) Jamaal Charles can be bottled up all game but one missed assignment he scores a 70 yard TD.
I am clinging to the notion that I don’t think Seattle’s home field cost the 49ers the game. Crowd noise didn’t become an issue til down 21-6. Blowing early opportunities, a few bad breaks than completely panicking cost the 49ers that game.
Arrowhead's noise factor is always an issue for opposing teams...
If the Chiefs give reason for the fans to come, which a 2-0 team WILL (this game is already pretty much sold out), then the fans will bring that same intensity to each and every game.
Given the noise element, do folks expect to see a return of false starts and wasted timeouts? Will we see frustration once again on the face of Alex Smith?
Yes. Obviously I’m biased… but that IS what Arrowhead does. It forces penalties and makes opponents use time outs. It’s not just on your team. They might have gotten better. They might have ironed out their communication problems. But Arrowhead does in fact bring an intimidation factor into the game. Your team can be well prepared for this game, but they’re still going to commit noise related penalties.
I was at the Monday Night game against SD. And I have to tell you… I’ve never heard anything like that. I’ve been a Chiefs fan all my life and grew up hearing stories about how loud Arrowhead can be, but never went to a game until 3 years ago… when the team was declining and the fan base was dissipating. Against SD there was this insane thunderous roar that you could literally feel. And that was WITH a quarter of the fans hiding in the concourses because of the rain. Do you remember how loud it was when the Chiefs stopped the Chargers at the goal line and secured the win? That was with a few thousand empty seats.
The Arrowhead Advantage is no joke. It’s back, and a 2-0 team WILL bring it with them this Sunday. I could honestly say that on a neutral field, the Niners would probably have the advantage. Not a big one, but enough. That said, KC is going to win this game because of the home field advantage.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 22, 2010 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I wasn’t paying attention but I’m glad they decided to remodel Arrowhead. It’s one of the great NFL stadiums. Is the team happy with remodel? I hope there are never plans to build a new one in KC cause the existing one is perfect.
Very happy. It looks great.
The plan was to add 375 million in renovations to the stadium (rather than build a new one). It keeps it the same legendary Arrowhead stadium that is a huge part of Kansas City and the NFL, yet gave it a much needed face lift to move it into “state of the art” status. They did a lot of cool stuff to enhance the game day experience. The concourse walls have been painted with pictures of great moments in Chiefs history, like Len Dawson’s Super Bowl Huddle, Derrick Thomas sacking John Elway, and HC Hank Stram after the Super Bowl IV victory… They look like this:
Also, they added a “Hall of Honor” that is like a little museum inside the stadium. It shows off real equipment the team/certain players used, has a bunch of video screens with historic Chiefs and their bios, and of course has the SB trophy on display:
On top of all the Chiefs memorabilia, they also added a display for the other 7 original AFL teams. Apparently Lamar Hunt was a bit of a collector. It’s cool that he pulled this stuff out of storage to share with the fans:
On top of all that they’ve added more bathrooms, widened the concourses and added a “kid zone”, that has a bunch of interactive stuff for kids. Also, there was a HD ribbon display added, that goes all the way around the stadium bowl, and there are now 2 HD display score boards, one on each end of the stadium.
All in all, yes, the Chiefs and the fans are very, very happy with what they’ve done. It’s made Arrowhead state of the art, yet it still has that same Arrowhead feel to it. Sorry if I rambled on here… you asked so I figured I’d fill you in as much as possible.
"Reach for new elevation; and see just how high we can go. Full blown determination; will take us further than we know. My own anticipation; keeps the fire from burning out, It's time for domination... no one can ever take us down" - Pillar - "For the Love of the Game"
by Red N Gold Beast on Sep 22, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That's an awesome stadium
You’re lucky to have it
by mr. instigator on Sep 22, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And at Candlestick
You can freeze your ass off and get stabbed in the parking lot. Go us!
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
question what is the radio station i need to listen to for the game?
I’m a Chiefs fan an im flying into San Francisco tomorrow for a wedding what stations are there to listen to wile im in town?
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Sep 22, 2010 5:03 PM PDT reply actions
radio
Posted on the other thread, but for those that look here:
The 49ers broadcast is on 107.7 FM and KNBR 680/1050AM. And if you’re so inclined, the Spanish broadcast is on 1010AM and 990 AM.
by David Fucillo on Sep 22, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
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