What "Changes" Could 49ers Coach Mike Singletary Be Considering?
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 7:00 AM PDT
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PrintDuring yesterday's post game press conference, 49ers head coach Mike Singletary indicated that same changes could occur in light of yesterday's thorough embarrassment at the hands of the now 3-0 Kansas City Chiefs. However, he emphasized that he was not going to fire offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye. Now I do believe Singletary could change his mind at some point and dump Raye. I don't know if it will happen this week, but Singletary has shown he's willing to change his mind on certain things so I'm not holding Singletary to his statement that Raye was his OC the rest of the year.
However, he did indicate there could be some changes and naturally there is plenty of speculation about possible changes. One bit of speculation had Mike Johnson getting greater power in designing the gameplan. Another thought was Adam Snyder replacing Chilo Rachal OR Anthony Davis in the starting line up. Barrows threw out the possibility of benching Crabtree and plugging Zeigler into the starting lineup.
Coach Singletary will have his morning after press conference later today at approximately 11:45 and I'd imagine we could get some clues then. I'd suspect the best answer we'll get today is going to be fairly vague as to specific changes in mind. When the team switched to a wrist band system we didn't find out for a couple of days. I'd imagine we'll be waiting a little bit to hear about this one.
As we wait for the press conference, realistically are there any other major changes out there? I know some want to see Alex Smith sent to the bench, but I actually don't see that as a realistic option at this point. I think the further involvement of Mike Johnson wouldn't surprise me at this point, but might also be one we don't hear much about. It's entirely possible Raye remains OC but really has much of his duties stripped away fairly quietly.
Given all the problems on the offensive side of the ball, I really don't have one single solution. It could end up being a compilation of ideas.
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Good management by Singletary
would be to make an unambiguous statement and get rid of some staff. Clean break. A drip-drip of responsibility would undermine the long-term credibility of the head coach and his staff. The lines already seem blurry enough. Throwing ideas/names against a wall, but Raye, Sullivan and Solari come to mind.
And sit Crabtree for a few series. And get some dang-gum former 49ers in the building to talk with the players during the week. Good outreach to a former championship winning team seems absent and if Singletary wants winners in the building, some of the organization’s last 5 Super Bowl winners still live in the Bay.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 27, 2010 7:17 AM PDT reply actions
Every 49ers fan should read this article
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20100926/NEWS/100929572/1057/SPORTS0908?p=all&tc=pgall
I think the writer hits the nail on the head! I am going on 8 losing seasons in a row where I buy a new jersey every year, and I go to at least 2 games… Not counting the stuff I buy for my son, and nephews, and the amount of money I pitch in to this team as a fan, and they don’t even have the common courtesy to tell the truth???
I hanging really low right now, and I have to say even though I love coach Singletary, he has no idea what an offense is, and that’s evident in him hiring Raye in the first place… Fire Raye, demote Singletary, salvage the season hire coach Gruden!
I don't think Gruden is going to give up his gig.
Not for being a coach again.
I don’t think you can demote a head coach either. Head coaches just go.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 27, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
well I love his motivation.... wait did I just say that?
Why do we all love how he motivates if he has motivated his way into an 0-3 start? I guess I wanted to keep him on staff for some of the relationships he has built but, obviously he doesn’t have a clue on how to be a head coach, and he’s hoping his coordinators will bail him out… Greg M is awesome no complaints there, but Raye has two plays… Gore up the middle (regardless if 10 are in the box even) or Davis up the middle… FIRE RAYE OR LOSE FANS NOW!
Defense gave up 450 and manusky is awesome.
Most coaches depend on their coordinators.
bmcrae83@yahoo.com is definitely Scot mcBooFoo
for the most part
Yeah I believe his is an awesome coach. He does a great job with the defense he has been given… He plays his player to the best of their own ability, which is something that I wish I could say about Raye but he’s over it!
Really? We didn’t touch Cassell yesterday. We knew that they would run and we couldn’t stop them. Drop LaBoy in coverage when we have lawson or even Bowman who are better suited. Nah, he made some personnel mistakes himself. I cannot blame him for Goldson and his poor coverage, but I can blame him for ocntinuing to play him deep when he sucks at it.
bmcrae83@yahoo.com is definitely Scot mcBooFoo
The defense wasn't good yesterday
but if I were making a list of Niner problems that would be way down the list. Yeah, I could see a few personnel changes and Manusky DID get outcoached yesterday, but having an actual offense would have helped.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 27, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
They were pounding Cassel in the 1st quarter
They kept getting QB hits on him on 3rd downs.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't want harbaugh either.
We get a coach i want, parcells. I want someone that can build a team and eye talent. i cannot think of anyone else I’d take.
bmcrae83@yahoo.com is definitely Scot mcBooFoo
by rlott#42 on Sep 27, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
you don't want Parcells to be a coach
If you want him, you want him in an advisory role.
There’s a long track record for coaches being burned out by their mid 50s. You want a coach who is relatively young ( 35-45 ), you want coordinators who are either really young ( 30-40 ) or have absolutely no desire to be a head coach but be supremely talented as a coordinator and simply can no longer be a head coach ( you know, what the 49ers thought they had in Norv ).
Coordinators need to be willing to put in 80-100 hour weeks in the NFL, so much of success is scheming specifically to beat your opponent. That is why age matters so much, they slowly pull out of this lifestyle and rely more on their memory, which eventually bites them in the ass.
Gruden and Cowher are not great coaches. I think in the modern NFL you either need a head coach who is hands on with the offense or defense, or you need to get REALLY lucky in a coordinator.
I can’t believe people wouldn’t want Harbaugh, and that anyone would want someone who has quit their last two jobs is beyond me.
by whistlingmountain on Sep 27, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Everyone does. But they are so exceedingly rare.
As an owner/GM, I would not hire a coach who does not control one side of the ball with hands-on Xs and Os. It is too risky.
Not only does this provide consistency through coordinator changes, it provides direct accountability to the head coach.
by whistlingmountain on Sep 27, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Harbaugh has a long history of building teams...
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Cowher had Dick labeau, and their defense is the only reason Cowher has a ring, so ummm NO.
bmcrae83@yahoo.com is definitely Scot mcBooFoo
Snyder over Rachal is a gimme.
The most obvious thing is to move Raye from playcalling, but Singletary is too stubborn and too loyal to Raye to admit it. It’s over.
Crabtree is utterly predictable and doesn’t seem to adjust. Let him sit.
When the bloodletting begins after this season I would hope that Jerry Sullivan’s head is also on the chopping block.
Solari? I dunno. It’s kind of a stretch to expect two raw rookies to be uniformly excellent in their first few games, but whoever suggested Rachal over Snyder should go. And I suspect that was Singletary’s decision.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 27, 2010 7:20 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Most important change
The Coach shows he has a clue about what is going on with his team. The focus is really on him not on others; Smith in particular is a sidebar issue right now. I hope Sing can get a grip, as he’s done a lot of good things for the team. But right now the players are more talented than the coaches, which is the easier problem to fix for the owners. If he comes out and shows again that he doesn’t understand what is happening and is confused, I see the beginning of the end.
In terms of changes, he should reward those who are playing well and sit those you are not. Suggestions have been made about who should sit; I certainly don’t see Crabtree right now to be an asset to the team, nor Rachel.
by Vertigo on Sep 27, 2010 7:23 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Please Sit Chilo
The only game when the line played well this year, was the game he missed.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
by 49er16 on Sep 27, 2010 7:28 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Let's see
1. Play calling should be given to Johnson
2. Smith should start, but get yanked for the 2nd half if the offense is sterile
3. Snyder or Baas should start for Rachal ( if Baas, put Heitmann at center )
4. Haralson should be benched
5. Lewis should be benched
by whistlingmountain on Sep 27, 2010 7:40 AM PDT reply actions
nope
it’s the only thing scrolling on NFL Network right now
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
seriously
Fooch throw it up on the front page, I know you do nothing but read NN 24/7!!!
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions
haha
I know, I just woke up and couldn’t really process it for a second
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
Now A. Smith has even more trouble. He’s got to learn an entire new offense again
Okay! Enough small talk let's get this division!
not really
im guessing Mike Johnson is going to be in charge
yea
no one switches offenses mid-season
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh ok
But Mallett is so awesome do you see his PA its amazing. You could do so much around him its ridiculous. Plus he doesn’t run I hate QBs that run.
he has amazing size for a qb
hes 6 foot 7. but no tall QBs make it in the NFL. hes got a laser arm, but lacks accuracy and mobility.. i dunno if he will be good. Looks like a young derek anderson to me im afraid to say…
flacco looked good yesterday, but was dreadful 2 weeks ago
juries still out on flacco imo. i like josh freeman tho at the bucs. but most QBs in the nfl don’t succeed at that height
yes, and you can also carry more weight
without losing mobility. Being the thing with more mass in a collision is a good thing:
Start the young ones early, I always say.
I know I think you can pack more on him
Hes not a mobile QB tho. But neither is Brady, or Peyton Manning
no tall qbs make it in the NFL
This is ridiculously uninformed:
Tom Brady 6’5"
Peyton Manning 6’5"
Joe Flacco 6’6"
Ben Roethlisberger 6’6"
Carson Palmer 6’5"
So one inch taller than Roethlisberger and Flacco make Mallet a guaranteed bust? Totally bizarre logic, imho.
Start the young ones early, I always say.
Well he is 6'6'' this year
he shrank an inch. See Tom and Peyton both made it and they are the top qbs in the league at the time. I think it helps seeing the whole defense.
There was some speculation that it's a conspiracy because no 6'7" QB has ever been good in the NFL
so they changed his height to 6’6"
Pam liked my old sig better.
His arms are long enough
He can reach Gore.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah but you know how ridiculous the meat market that the NFL combine has become
Players magically get better during the off-season before the draft happens.
Pam liked my old sig better.
big difference between 6'5 and 6'7
ben roethlisbeger is 6’5. name a successful QB in the NFL above 6’5. and ill give you 20 that are unsuccessful. at 6’7 they are usally too immobile to move unless you’re a physical specimen
tom brady is 6'4
you dont even have the players you listed, heights correct.
THIS JUST IN! RAYE HAS BEEN FIRED!!!!!!
Ohhhhhhhhhh happy daaaaaaaaaay come on guys you know the lyrics! hahahahaha
Man, I just heard that!
Well, at least he can get back to fishing.
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 27, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
2 weeks too late
but better than never i guess. shoulda fired him after week 1’s debacle
Wow! I thought this would never happen.
I’m surprised that Sing didn’t just strip him of his play-calling duties, since his whole deal has been continuity. I guess we’ll find out what Mike Johnson is made of in the next few weeks.
Start the young ones early, I always say.
you think its going to be mike johnson?
i’d rather have someone new. anything’s better than what we got now atm
lol only for one Smith
The other might get a starting gig
Okay! Enough small talk let's get this division!
we don't really have better options for now
as much as I like Troy Smith, he’s still learning the offense, and I don’t know that he’d be a serious contender for QBOTF so why bother?
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow
that was fast.
writing was on the wall for ol’ Jimmy Hat.
Picard is extremely pleased - the ol' Yahooer is gone!
Now, how about some results?
The line must be drawn HERE...
by Ranger10 on Sep 27, 2010 8:13 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Speculation.
Who really made the decision? Sing or Jed?
by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 27, 2010 8:16 AM PDT reply actions
Baalke could have def pushed this move idk if singz was ready to let go of his fishing hat wearing buddy just yet
by pwillisbeast52 on Sep 27, 2010 8:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He doesn't have that authority
He’s a scout No.1
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
one thing I would give singletary credit for
is listening to his players and if enough really said that they thought there needed to be a change, I could see him doing it
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
But Sing said it wasn't the play-calling ...
… it was the execution. So which was it, Mike? By doing this, and listening to the players, he’s admitted he did not know what the real issue was and had to be told. That does not bode well.
But anyway, good news.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
maybe he actually did go back and "watch the film"
and changed his mind? kinda doubt it but maybe
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
He was most likely buying some time
short-term bad PR in order to prep for major changes later.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 27, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Ninjame's source
Says that Singletary made the decision.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I am seriously surprised he was straight fired
I really thought they’d just turn over the playcalling duties. I’m worried this is only part of the problem. I genuinely think Manusky is a solid coordinator, but something else is missing
Singletary has been a full-time NFL coach for 21 months
And has fired two offensive co-ordinators. Next time it goes bad, here’s looking at you, Mike.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
You can get the whole head now ...
… like when Swearengen kept the head on Deadwood.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
no, it means that Jimmy Raye = the Pariah of Niners Nation!
Start the young ones early, I always say.
Foochhhh
Where is our mainpage thread this could be as epic as D Carr
by pwillisbeast52 on Sep 27, 2010 8:21 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
FFOOOOOOOOOOOCH?!?
Just keep it coming – he’ll come running eventually.
The line must be drawn HERE...
4.30pm here
Fooch might be here playing softball. You never know. He strikes me as a globe-trotting softball kind of a guy.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
sleep
Seeing as I’m unemployed, I was asleep during all of this!
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Come on man!
At least lie and say you were playing softball.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
MATT MAIOCCO SAYS RAYE IS OUT
League source confirms Jimmy Raye is out as 49ers offensive coordinator and Mike Johnson will take over those duties.
haha
welcome to the early morning party
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
So I think I know what reaction I'll get but I'm gonna throw this out there
Did he deserve to be straight fired?
Would he have given us anything by being kept on in a lesser role, he has been around a while and by all accounts seems to be a good coach (when not calling plays)…
I think maybe you have to fire him to make things clear/hold people accountable, etc, but just thinking about other possibilities
I bet this came from higher than Sing
So, yeah, whoever holds the purse strings…
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
My opinion
Sing needs to be pretty sure about MJ. If he starts firing three OC’s and moving on to a fourth, attention MUST turn to his own coaching ability. He would then be the common denominator. It’s Johnson or bust for Singletary.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
yeah
I think this is the final straw for him, it’s too bad, I really like sing but like Nolan (who I have more mixed emotions about) he simply might be better suited as a motivational leader like Nolan used him as, and not an HC
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
This move bought a lot of time for Singletary
whether it was his decision or not.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 27, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Fooch/Ninjames
You guys are probably on it, but a post about Mike Johnson would be spectacular.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 27, 2010 8:30 AM PDT reply actions
Sssh, Yahoo is always watching
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
Ha ha ...
… that’s nice. Inspector Yahoo.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
Here's the scary part...
…Raye and Sing didn’t see eye to eye on the cause of offensive problems. What if Raye wanted to open it up and run the Raye gun while Sing balked? After reading Sing’s comments about “balance” when we’re down several TDs late in the game, I’m not so sure…
At least the Ray-ese will be eliminated
I think Mike Johnson is ready for the challenge… Sing needs to learn how to delegate.
Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!
Two runs up the middle
and a pass on 3rs down doesn’t seem to be very balanced. Was probably Raye’s preference.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 27, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
This just in ...
… Mike Johnson is merely a short-term appointment. Dennis O’Donnell expected to take over when he can be released from his television contract.
LondonNiner - member of the legendary David Carr thread, 6 March 2010.
haha
so that’s why he was fired, to free him up!
by foosball4949 on Sep 27, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
so I've been watching NFL Network
which is where I first heard this and you know who looks a lot better than Crabtree?
Heyward-Bey…ouch
(caveat: I don’t think he’ll wind up being better or anything, just saying…)
Blasphemy
You will be executed later today.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Thought the tidbit about the Michael Vick, Mike Johnson was interesting
when mentioned on Murph and Mac this morning. At this moment of desperation, they should do all they can to get Vick. hahaha maybe fire some more people.
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