Mike Singletary Morning After Press Conference: Jimmy Raye Edition
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 11:15 AM PDT
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PrintWell, today's Mike Singletary press conference just got a lot more interesting. Coach Singletary will hold is normal day after press conference at 11:45am (embedded video after the jump, also on Comcast Sports Net channel 40 in SF), and given the news that Jimmy Raye has officially been released from the 49ers coaching staff and QB Coach Mike Johnson has been promoted to offensive coordinator, I'd imagine we'll get plenty of questions about the changes on the coaching staff.
After yesterday I expected this move to happen at some point this season, but I'm still a bit surprised it happened so quickly. Nonetheless I have no problem with the move in spite of what Coach Singletary said yesterday about keeping Raye as OC for the season. Coach Singletary has shown he has no problem changing his mind in the past and I can live with that in this case. And in fact I'm quite pleased by it. It remains to be seen whether this will fix the problems but we might get a decent idea how much of the issue Jimmy Raye's play-calling really was for the team.
For those who miss the press conference, we'll have the transcript to post sometime later this afternoon.
Update: Jason La Canfora and Adam Schefter are both reporting the 49ers will be benching Takeo Spikes and Michael Lewis this weekend against the Falcons. I'd imagine Coach Singletary will discuss that today and also what that means as far as how much time they see coming off the bench (if any).
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so mays and navaro are in?
this should be interesting
Mays...
Not necessarily Mays. Might be Reggie Smith in at SS with Mays moving up into Smith’s backup role.
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Rotating Mays in on some running downs, safety blitzes a bit more, do you think?
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by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
i dont think we'll see mays this year at all
they usually wait a year or two until they give safeties a look-in
He was supposed to do well
Mays coverage still isn’t great I’ve been saying all of the offseason that 2011 starters will be Mays and Smith. Give Mays another year to work on his coverage.
'Thank GOD''on michael lewis benching my uncle called me n said they finally benched
him becuzz he knows ive been screaming 4 this for a few years now.Why is it that ’’’Joe fan’’can point out stuff that needs 2 be done on our team but proffesionals who get paid 2 do that can’t see that same ’’problem’’????
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
If we go back n see what ''reggie smith''did in pre-season he should of been in the
starting line-up is it manusky or singletery that feel we need ’’veteran’’players who knows the plays but are not fast enough or athletic enough anymore get first dibbs over rookies or 2nd or 3rd yr players who are faster n more athletic enough but are still young.We have 2 take some of those ’’lumps’’or mistakes from our younger players,but in the end it pays off cuzz when these young players ‘’get it’‘they will make more plays then theses slow ’’veteran’’players who can’t make those impact plays anymore feel me????
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
spot on
I could not agree more…I would prefer to have the younger guys because they can make the fast plays…Lewis is slower than some of the lineman tere is no reason why he should be in the secondary
by texasniner06 on Sep 27, 2010 2:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If Brees throws an accurate pass Smith is taking it back for a game winning TD
Just the 49ers luck so far this season. DB jumps the route and it’s the one time Brees can’t hit the side of barn on a short pass.
Against Michael Turner and the Falcons ...
… I want Takeo in, not Bowman. I know we are reacting to the speed that we dealt with yesterday, but that’s not Atlanta. They have speed guys, but Spikes needs to be there on Turner all game.
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I hope this does not mean he will lose that much playing time
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
I love what Bowman has brought to the table.
But his glaring weakness has been his tackling. He over-commits to a direction, and doesn’t get a good grip on guys to bring them down. If we are to win this game, it will be close, and it only takes one missed tackle on Turner to lose the game for us.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
What you want ''bench''crabtree becuzz every time alex throws 2 him something
bad happens either he’s not running the route ( thats my guess ) correctly or alex is not throwing the ball where it needs 2 be.Either way dude has badd ’’karma’’around him fill me????
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Stop worrying ''ninj''when he comes of that edge n slap that ball out of ''matty ice''lol (BS)
you will be saying man im glad we put ’’bowman’’in we as ’’fans’’has 2 get over these ’’veterans’getting play-time will they ‘’bleep up’‘of course they will but their ’’impact’’plays will help up way more then these slower veterans who can’t keep ’’anymore’’
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I will watch again
I actually saw Willis over pursing this past game. It was a very un-Willis like performance.
he looked a little hobbled by the end of the game
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 28, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Patrick Willis is far too good at what he does to place him solely on Turner.
We need the best players out there in every situation. Spikes and Bowman both looked bad yesterday, but Spikes is the infinitely better matchup against Turner.
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by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Speed is a big factor...
because we have to drop our SS into coverage too often. We need faster linebackers and I’m willing to endure the likely mistakes Bowman will make on the line so we can have better mid-field coverage in the secondary.
We'll have better coverage from said SS.
It’s not a matter of speed in my mind, it’s a matter of matchups. You do want “general speed,” on your team, but you also matchup players on players. Spikes is the perfect guy for Turner.
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by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Well put people got 2 understand these veterans although they don't make mistakes
they also can’t catch up 2 these younger n faster players michael lewis just like roman should have beeeeen ’’replaced’’lewis had 1 pick against chicago last year n roman well we all know about his struggles.We need 2 get faster n make more ’’impact’’plays n if these youngsters make a few ‘’boo boos’‘so be it but i also believe they will make some ’’big pllays 2’’
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Is Takeo really being benched
Or is it more allowing him to get healthy.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
lets be honest
bowman is the future, let him play. in all honesty that game does not look good anyways.
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Sep 27, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Bench Takeo? This is one I don't agree with at all.
We need someone who can take down Turner and his tree trunk legs. Takeo knows how to take the power runners like SJax, MJD and Turner
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
At least moreso than Bowman. It’s just an experience thing and not a knock on Bowman.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Confidence in Bow
Maybe they think that highly of him. He does look pretty good.
by mr. instigator on Sep 27, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think that means they should start him though
He still hasn’t even seen that many different offenses yet. Nobody’s run the ball like Atlanta does in these past 3 games. I’m pretty sure that players like Tony G can easily figure out how to keep players like Bowman from being a factor.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
take his legs out from under him. That's how you tackle a guy that is bigger than you.
The lowest person will always win the matchup
They need to get Chilo out of there and put in Synder
Jimmy Raye es until!!! Mandanlo al demonio.
by 49erSalvatrucha on Sep 27, 2010 11:34 AM PDT reply actions
Wow... that's an empty room...
At lot of the reporters who would normally be there are on planes back from KC right now.
Interesting about Spikes and Lewis
Hey, if this team is gonna suck this year, we might as well put the young guys in and see how they do, right? Lol. I bet Spikes and Lewis haven’t been playing well, either. Both might finally have lost too many steps. I’m excited to see Bowman and Smith play more.
Hey everyone, I have a question regarding the offensive line: Am I the only one that thinks Rachal should be benched? This line played far better with the veteran presence of Snyder at RG, no doubt helping out rookie A. Davis. And hey, once Heitmann’s back, we could put him back in and shuffle Baas over to RG. Just food for thought. I think it may be better that way.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Forget ''benching''him we should ''trade''him but im cool benching him but i don't believe
he’s ‘’kwame harris part 2’’nobody that bad!!!!
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
made my day
We’ll be better off now….. I hope
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
Drew!
Dude, need your thoughts on Ryan Mallet.
I’m kind of on/off.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Ryan Mallett = stud.
he makes good things happen.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Sep 27, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I like a lot of things about him
But there are also negatives.
I’d like Drew’s take on it though.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: Mallett
I think he has potential… but his decision making is very questionable. I have said that since I’ve seen him. But you know what they say about potential… it doesn’t mean anything until you’re living up to it.
In anycase, he’ll probably still be a 1st-2nd round pick. I am really liking the way Andrew Luck is showing up to each game. If the Niners could land him next draft, that would be awesome!
"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.
ryan mallet
strong arm, great height. inaccurate, doesn’t have great poise in the pocket, very very immobile. Looks remarkably like derek anderson… im afraid to say
His accuracy is 68.8% I'm sorry but that seems really accurate.
Unless my accuracy ratings have been screwed. But yes he is very immobile
mallett=beast
mallett has a cannon, height, and poise will come with time…if he’s there in the middle of the 1st we should take him…hate to say it but I got no more confidence in smith
by texasniner06 on Sep 27, 2010 2:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Spikes is hurt
Makes sense to sit him, and N Bowman looks decent. Better to game plan all week with a decent player at 100% than a great one at 80%.
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
Who's bald spot is that?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
Guy in the green shirt is a player
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Press Conference
On channel 40 they’ve got their pre-press conference show with a host and Eric Davis. Naturally the host through out Trent Edwards’ name. Davis basically said they’ll look at anything and everything at this point (but he meant Edwards more in the idea of a backup role).
Yeah, just saw that. Edwards is a bad idea. He’s weaker, more frail, less intelligent and much more easily shaken Alex Smith.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Only thing going for him is Bill Walsh's (may he rest in peace) vote of confidence
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Edwards was a bad fit for Bills
They need someone with a strong arm who can get the ball down field in the awful weather, like Kelly. Edwards would have been a good fit for a WCO offense, perhaps still would be. He needs someone like Gruden as a coach. I used to watch him at Cardinal games where he basically played without a O line and was pummeled on every play.,,..
by Mood_Indigo on Sep 27, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
''Thank you''i would rather have ''nate davis''back but who thought the rams would have a win b4 us?
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If Nate Davis pulled a rabbit out of his ass
and threw a 90 yard touchdown once a game that only masks the problems we have right now. No consistent push from the O-Line. Not creating turnovers on defense. We’ve forced 2 turnovers in 3 games. Not acceptable. I think a more hidden issue may be that Bass while not making mistakes himself isn’t good enough to make Iupati or InsertRGhere better and almost certainly isn’t as good at setting everybody’s protections as Heitmann.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 28, 2010 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions
And when everything else is going wrong
Alex hasn’t been able to elevate himself. Being able to elevate your game while everybody else stinks is special. Alex just needs to be able to hold steady and show leadership for now in those situations.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 28, 2010 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Vernon Davis comes into the room prepared to make an announcement
I would first like to thank all of you for coming to this press conference. After some soul searching I’ve come to the decision… this is hard… I’ve decided that I’m taking my talents to South Beach
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
WHY ARE THEY SO PUMPED
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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High fives all around?
Did they just learn of Jimmy Raye’s firing?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
Mike Singletary is crying right now
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably
He looks all depressed.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Singletary is helping Jimmy Raye find his dentures
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Sep 27, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good one.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
More likely...
Helping him find his playbook…easy to misplace a single sheet of paper.
by ColoradoNiner on Sep 27, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Communication issues.
The play call is garbled. Jimmy Raye’s last hurrah.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
lmao
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Be happy
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
KNBR brought back the boom mike from the Reagan administration...
Seriously, can Cumulus buy their station some new gear? That’s just pathetic.
seriously I can barely hear anything
"All during film, I'm calling him Bam-Bam, like from 'The Flintstones,' because he hits everything. He is the truth" - Chad Ochocinco on Patrick Willis
If you have the CSNBA channel, it's on TV right now and the volume is great.
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by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm watching on my computer
Sounds good here.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
for some reason I'm only getting audio from the left channel
But I verified with other videos that it’s not my computer
Pam liked my old sig better.
It's not that they knew our signals
It’s so not that
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
He hasn't looked at it yet?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So why does he need to look at it going foward?
Florida Danny already told us that these guys are too stupid to learn anything.
Sorry for the harsh words, but that’s what he said.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
when Raye watches film
he uses the actual TV broadcast and he watches the commercials of Fox’s upcoming programming.
lmao
probably
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
He's old school. Instead of watching film, he listens to the plays on a handheld radio.
Pam liked my old sig better.
well, apparently...
singletary just showed some intelligence. nolan went through a whole season of hostler, and was too dumb to can his ass.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
His intelligence is still TBD
Lets see if they can gameplan effectively for the Falcons.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
well, yeah...
but there’s no doubting that canning raye is the “smarter” of the two alternatives (keep vs. can).
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, absolutely
But now the defense needs to bounce back.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
This still feels like..
Nolan all over again.
Especially the “I have to look at the film” part.
FIRED! With an 'F'!
maybe...
but nolan stuck with hostler all the way to 5-11…and nolan stuck with JTO all the way to 2-5. nolan was pathological in his inability to recognize what was right in front of his face. in short, look it, nolan couldn’t look it.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Martz stuck with JTO...
Hill was actually Nolan’s guy. JTO was Martz’s hand picked QB.
Nolan did give Hostler help brining in (I forgot the name) late in that season. This still reeks of Nolan era decision making, which wasn’t good.
FIRED! With an 'F'!
semantics...
ok, nolan stuck with martz, who stuck with JTO…plus, if hill was nolan’s guy, then it was even worse that he didn’t go to hill even as the season was nosediving. point is that singletary’s shown he doesn’t have the pathological acceptance of failure that nolan had. if they suck, he makes a move. i at least have to give him that much, other critiques notwithstanding.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of Shaun
He came out with a better rating than FAVRE. What the hell is wrong with this picture?
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
I don't think Sing had a choice in a lot of those decisions...
Because clearly the problems Nolan had still remain with Singletary. They are both stubborn in their approach, and when their choice for OC’s blow up in their face, it’s usually during the season. Sing might make changes faster, but this one still is on him completely.
FIRED! With an 'F'!
I'm glad Shaun was traded
He was getting killed in our offense. But in Detroit, he’s getting respect for his backup role. Ended up being a good move for him. Lions are 0-3, but people know things will pickup when Stafford returns.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
i'm not doubting...
that singletary’s stubborn. just making the point that he appears to be less stubborn, less ideological, and more pragmatic than nolan was. in the solar system of stubbornness, if nolan was mercury, singletary is earth. i’m not sure there are many NFL coaches who could be considered analogous to the kuiper belt. i just think the evidence seems to indicate that singletary’s much more problem-oriented and open to change than nolan was ever capable of. i have a plethora of examples in mind, but i’m at work, so will refrain from listing them unless you really want me to.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Singletary on Raye's reaction
I think he took it well.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
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...formatting is all messed up right now
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I’m surprised he didn’t say “I don’t know. I’ll have to look at the tape and decide from there.”
"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi
by Haggardninja on Sep 27, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There was like four paragraphs added onto that comment that randomly disappeared when I posted.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Since the last round of "upgrades" to the SBN format crap
It’s now basically impossible to type anything in quotes.
However, you can link to twitter and facebook and print or email threads. sigh.
Pam liked my old sig better.
The most completely useless bit is that there are FB and Twitter buttons at the top AND the bottom
of the post, but the unread comment count only shows up at the bottom now, after being at the top before.
Someone made a conscious decision to actually REMOVE information from posts.
Pam liked my old sig better.
i was listening to...
bruce’s postgame show yesterday and he made the point that raye’s never lasted more than 3 yrs in any job. his median tenure as OC is 2 seasons. my point being that he probably took it well because he’s used to getting canned on or around year 2.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
haha he already had his bags packed and ready
by mr. instigator on Sep 27, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
he...
had probably been living out of a suitcase for the past 20 months.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That was brought up here...
When Raye was hired. I think I posted how his offenses usually regress in Year 2. Naturally, people dismissed it.
FIRED! With an 'F'!
drummer...
you don’t have to brag. we all know how clarevoyant you are. at least i do.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
more like...
i’m the malcontented expert and you’re the expert malcontent. two sides of the same coin we are.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry...
for the yoda-like grammar there.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
since...
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
i just had my first...
football outsiders-esque “hey, quit ripping off stuff we published years ago” moment reading this yahoo article.
so they guy basically does the same thing i did 2 years ago (albeit in a much more statistically amateurish way), but makes a shiny table with meaningless numbers and “FIRED” in big red letters where necessary, and he’s linked up everywhere. god bless “journalism.”
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I swear, Niners need you in the front office.
Nobody called it like you did, and showed the stats behind it. Plenty were doubtful, but only you came out and used the “inconsistently average” statement which I found hilarious.
What do you mean?
I called it more spot on than anybody.
by mr. instigator on Sep 28, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That was fantastically well done
It was a bit too optimistic in hindsight, but I still think you did a fantastic job in those two articles.
I really miss Norv Turner. He and Alex Smith could have been a great pairing if they were together long term. In fact, had he stayed since 2006, I wouldn’t be surprised if Alex would have already proven to be a top-10 quarterback. Norv really knew how to use Alex. Raye just forced him to “run the offense.” Norv knew how to put him in situations where he would succeed. I hope Johnson can figure that out.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Norv did.
Alex was looking great at year 2 moving into 3… Please Mike Johnson. Bring some magic. Roll Alex out on some naked bootlegs.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 28, 2010 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
Good analysis, but way too optimistic for my tastes.
by mr. instigator on Sep 28, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Danny
Have you taken a look and compared our DVOA offensive numbers between Raye’s tenure and the tenures of the OCs from McCarthy to Martz? Curious as to where he stacks up against his predecessors.
I slammed his hire before he even called one play because his track record was just that bad, but I’m wondering if he was really the worst we’ve (ever?) had..
by mr. instigator on Sep 28, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Nevermind
I just noticed that part in your article. That’s mind boggling.
by mr. instigator on Sep 28, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay
I’m going in circles. My original question still stands.
by mr. instigator on Sep 28, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
You gotta put in on your shoulders as HC
He’s not going to celebrate having to fire a coach.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Scott Ostler provides great color after the game...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/27/SPNJ1FKBFO.DTL
Shortly after the end of Sunday’s 31-10 loss to the Chiefs, a group of glum 49ers coaches boarded their press-box elevator, going (appropriately) down.
A minute later, Jimmy Raye came out of the visiting team’s booth and trudged into another elevator. He looked whatever is glummer than glum. He rode down alone. A portent of things to come?
Monday the 49ers fired Raye, the offensive coordinator for one-plus seasons.
I like Jimmy Raye but that is the nature of the game.
It’s what have you done for me lately and lately they got embarrassed.
this might be it for Jimmy Raye in the NFL. Good Luck to him and all his future endeavors.
For online streams, they go with one mic trying to pick everything up.
As two direct source audio streams on top of the video are hard on some connections. Some people are still in the stone edge.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
stone age..
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Not my choice. It was probably from viewer input, honestly.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm giving her all I've got, Captain.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
look like he's Not sure where the Takeo, Lewis rumors came from...
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
Some rat.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So ninj do you think our new OC ''johnson'can use this same offense n be more
aggressive because there no more ’’exscuses’’its either the ’’’QB or the HC’’after this move but do you think he can use this offense n be more aggressive?
by 49er_diva_recieva's on Sep 27, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he could easily use the same offensive system and be more aggressive, and more DYNAMIC
It’s not the offense, that only runs the same 4 or 5 plays. I have to believe that there is a full playbook in that system, but that Raye had his tendencies, and stuck with a handful of plays that worked back with the 90s Cheifs or whenever they had the 8th best Offense.
Adam Schefter
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
LaConfora is the one who tweeted them first, I believe.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't follow LaCanfora
So I got it from Schefter.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That's fine. I prefer Schefter in any scenario.
Just noting that Schefter wasn’t the first one, in this case, and probably didn’t hear anything at all. He was reading LaConfora’s twitter much like I was.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully not.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
i did a shot...
when i heard him say that today. the “work your tails off” line is actually one of our 20 or so niner drinking games.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like Raye wasn't...
communicating well with the other offensive position coaches, alienating them in the process. This backs up a report today that said that Raye would often spring offensive changes on his coaches during meetings, without consulting them first…
Not only was Raye dumb, uncreative, a mumbler, and vanilla to the nth degree, he was bad at managing and leading his staff…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
did he just say
that he hasn’t told the team yet about jimmy raye?
i wasnt totally paying attention, but he said something about not having broken the news to the team yet.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
Yeah, he said that
I’m sure everyone knows though.
Alex and Crabtree are probably dancing through the streets of Santa Clara right now.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol @ Smith and Crabs dancing through the streets
I bet while they’re dancing, Crabtree slips and somehow Alex Smith gets intercepted on a tipped pass to an old woman.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
by Effage on Sep 27, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
all the more reason...
to bring jerry rice in as his mentor.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Isn't this their off day?
Unless he’s going to send a group text, he can’t address them all until tomorrow.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
True
But I’m sure they all know by now.
Excpet maybe Norris. He’s too old for twitter.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Singletary doesn't know the meaning of...
words like execution and philosophy. Otherwise, he wouldn’t be contradicting himself.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions
Sing's Fault
He hired Raye and let Raye set the tone. Please don’t bother blaming Raye at this point. Sing hired him to be him. And that was the mistake. Clear cut.
He didn't blame Raye. He took responsibility for Raye doing what he wanted.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
No, Raye gets blamed, and there's plenty of blame to go around
Dude couldn’t/wouldn’t communicate with his subordinate coaches, alienating them in the process. He couldn’t figure out a way to get the plays in on time. He was so predictable that KC was calling out his plays based on personnel groups. The list goes on and on…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
But Sing didn't blame Raye
Nor should he. When you’re the boss, even when you dismiss your subordinates, you take responsibility since you hired them, you fired them and you chose their replacement.
Plus you don’t pile on a guy when he’s down. Everyone knows Raye sucked. It need not be repeated by the HC.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I mean
Singletary praised Mike Johnson’s ability to communicate and bring the coaching staff together, which is another way of saying that Raye didn’t communicate well and had alienated himself from the staff.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
But I was answering the post that Sing should not blame Raye. And he didn’t.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Yes, he did
But he was tactful about it…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
We heard it differently
He said Raye was implementing what he wanted. That’s how you put in on yourself.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I don't get it
Are we making potato salad?
If so, I don’t want any.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Like I said...
He was tactful. He did explicitly say Raye was implementing what he wanted…and then later he listed off a set of characteristics that Mike Johnson has, things like innovation, communication, and the charisma to bring a coaching staff together. The implication is that Raye didn’t have those characteristics.
Again, it was tactful and it takes reading between the lines to understand what Singletary was saying. And as Singletary is rarely tactful in anything he says, you can bet the implicit blaming of Raye was not intentional.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough. All around I thought he handled that part well. He certainly gave up nothing of consequence with the other questions.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I agree
MIke has some outstanding personal integrity. It’s his professional integrity which I continue to question.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
BS. Singletary has never taken responsibility for anything. He SOUNDS like he is. But, listen carefully to what he says. Stuff like: " I take responsibility for my team not listening to me as well as they should have."
by cybermaldonado on Sep 27, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol
The sign on that door is backwards.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
Alex Smith Dancing in the Streets?
No. Actually he is starting to build a new gallows to hang the next OC from. Until he’s gone the offense will be too inconsistent to succeed. The only dancing he’ll be doing is on the next OCs metaphorical grave.
Let me get you straight...
You liked Jimmy Raye and think that Alex is to blame for the offensive suckage?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Who knows?
Tom Brady would look like garbage playing in Raye’s offense.
by mr. instigator on Sep 27, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
No because every dog has its day.....
clearly most of us will look at the 3 games and say we blew it more then anything. I thought most of the good things in the Saints game did not out weigh the bad. It was a fun game but still missed punts and turnovers area a game breaker. I thought Jimmy raye sucked then and I still think he sucks. Need to get rid of the old way of thinking about Football.
No, I am saying it after the Singletary press conference I just missed.
So, once again, what did I miss?
Praised Mike Johnson's communication skills
Said he hasn’t told the players Jimmy Raye is out.
Also denied reports that M. Lewis and TKO are being benched.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
he didn't deny them
He just said he didn’t know where they came from. He said changes could happen but he never really said yes or no on that one.
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right
Maybe we find out tomorrow after the players are all in house?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
that's what I think
I think the report is probably somewhat (if not totally) true but Singletary wants to “control” the information when possible. So I wouldn’t be surprised to hear about the changes during his mid week media session.
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
How about a poll of which players should be benched/cut? Norris would lead but from what Plummer was saying on the radio, Evans was awful in terms of technique and effort. Hopefully these guys lose their roster spots in addtition to those who get benched (Lewis, Richal).
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Demetric Evans?
Is he playing more than RJF?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Appearently
At least he was subbing for Smith in the 2nd half and getting pushed around as though he wasn’t there. Film won’t lie about that. Might be time go call up one of the PS guys who could do no worse for less money.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
You're right
But I mean, it’s not like he said “oh yeah we’re benching them!”
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
the whole thing
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Sep 27, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
That was shorter than a normal morning after presser
Would’ve been nice to also discuss the loss and expectations for Sunday in Atlanta in addition to Raye’s dismissal.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I didn't hear him say that.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Do not ask for whom the bell tolls
Ding dong, Mike.
10-6
Although 9-7 is more likely.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
We all expect that.
At least now I think we could beat the Raiders to go 1-5
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Got Pain?
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
Get Max Freeze!
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
by BrandonMK50 on Sep 27, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
What can he say?
How different can things be? He still has Smith ready to F things up. And Raye’s playbook.
Did you see the Saints game?
They can play like that for the rest of the season.
A lot different than losing 31-3
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
you forgot LeGarrett Blount.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Sep 27, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Thomas Clayton too
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
oooooh
Will Seattle hire Jimmy Raye now?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
there's an easy way to break the news to Jimmy:
tell him “I want winners,” and he will know that he’s been fired.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
lmao
Seriously
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
They were our future
Along with Nate, who we still have. Maybe Johnson can try him at QB now that Singletary isn’t smoking Alex Smith fairy dust any more.
My theory is that he is Joe Thomas
Sine79 he’s been crazy.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
5 Superbowls?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
We still have Nate because on a daily basis ...
… the other 31 team’s still don’t want him …. i mean jeeeez all they have to do is sign him …!!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Not exactly
The reason no team took a chance on him is because of the learning disability which would basically preclude Nate from helping any other team in 2010.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
so what your say'n is he's no better than the 2nd and 3rd string's on other team's ...
… in other word’s there’s 60 or so better Qb’s …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
No...
I’m saying that he’s worse than any other 2 or 3 stringer because he wouldn’t be able to pick up the offense mid-season and thus would be no better than a mannequin on the sidelines…
With time to digest the offense (like a full offseason), I like Nate’s potential alot, especially since Raye is now gone.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
In all honesty... a year ago I was angry and irate at the way the niners were coming up short.
this year, It’s just numbing, like the season hasn’t even begun.
God, that was painful
Reporter: “Why is this team 0-3?”
Coach: “What?”
Reporter: “Why is this team 0-3?”
Coach: “Uh… it could be any number of reasons …Any number of reasons.”
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
I could be delusional
But for the sake of a great subplot, it would be great if that had been the same reporter who asked that ridiculous “49ers greats” question last week.
The truly epic response in that case, of course, would be “What kind of answer is that?”
49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)
He should have said
We lost 3 games.
The other team scored more points than us.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Easy answer
Turnovers, inability to move the ball with consistency, loss of composure when things go bad on the road, immaturity on offense.. and oh yeah, complete lack of creativity from or faith in the guy I just canned.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
It's time to get radical and try new ideas
Bench Norris and Smith. Try Nate Davis at QB (stop laughing, you guys, I said RADICAL). Heitman at RG. More Westbrook. More Zeigler. Mays and Smith at safety. Yes, that’s good. Sign Briggs off the Denver PSquad. Go with the young guys and let them rip it up or die trying. Then next year we’lll know hwat we have, what we need, and the youngsters will have ahd a year under their belts.
Heitmann at guard? lmao.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Heitmann
He started his career at guard with the 49ers.
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
And he is infinitely better at center.
Baas was getting bullied out there just like everyone else. Center is more important than RG. Heitmann needs to go back to C and have Baas/Snyder/Rachal at RG
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he can work his way up by starting at RG?
C is a lot harder to play than RG no?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Heitmann was our best lineman at C, though.
I don’t want him to play if he has to “work his way up.” It means he’s not healthy. As soon as he’s healthy, he needs to be at C.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I meant like one game to get the feel of the game back.
Let him get a good feel at RG and then put him at C the next game.
Can Baas play RG effectively?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Heitmann is a guy that needs to get the feel back.
He’s calm, cool, collected. Very intelligent. Above all: consistent. No reason for him to start learning the position again, regardless of how similar it is.
Baas didn’t seem to play anything effectively and now he looks decent at C. We’ll have to see, I guess. He has the body for it, the footwork.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Heitman isn't ready yet
But I agree 100% that he should be inserted at RG ASAP.
Disagree with the Alex Smith/Nate Davis nonsense.
The other stuff could work.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone call the Omaha Nighthawks
It’s time for a Jeff Garcia/49ers reunion.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Jeff Garcia plays for the Omaha Nighthawks?
so JaMarcus Russell can’t even start in the UFL?!
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Sep 27, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Jimmy Raye isn't the last to go...
I’m ready for more changes if the Falcons win next week, and Singletary goes if the Raiders beat us.
Hexk im gone if the Raider's be
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Relax
We’re going to go 0-5
Brace yourself.
The team might look better but 0-5 is almost certain.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
we should sign Trent edwards...
HA!
…
…
…
…
…
no.
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Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
DOES ANYBODY HEAR ME YET? LET ME REPLY AGAIN
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Fail
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get it?
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
like reply fail?
Failure to communicate?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It wasn't a reply fail.
I was making fun of the fact that he commented like six times rapid fire saying the same thing.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Well you smell funny.
So there’s that.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
as long as we're throwing out random insults,
i think smileyman is an enormous pile of Tre9er.
[/2-in-1 insult]
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
How would you know I smell funny?
What are you? Shaun Smith? grope grope sniff sniff
Touchdown Forty Niners!
The league where the Saints’ kicker missed the same kick he made last week? Oh yeah, we blocked his kick straight. Our bad.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Say what you want about our brain dead coach and former OC, but
We’ve caught a lot of bad breaks, from tipped balls, to muffed punt returns that inexplicably stay in bounds even though they happen 6 inches from the sideline, to shaky FG kickers hitting their kicks. Just a lot of bad luck on top of bad coaching and bad play…
I struggle to think of a single break we’ve caught so far…
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
We just got one ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Bad breaks or Crabtree?
He’s like Cousin Oliver on Brady Bunch. Bad stuff always happens around him.
Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.
Or shleprock from the Flintstone's ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Don't forget...
The interception Flowers made from his back =/
by ZivilynBane on Sep 27, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Alex has two interceptions...
That bounced around and inexplicably came to rest in a DB’s gut.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Was a Voodoo hangover from the Saint's game ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Shaun Hill cursed him.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
a single break we've caught so far?
we got to play the Seahawks and Chiefs. that’s a break, but we seem to have muffed it.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Sep 27, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
they beat the browns by two points.
and they needed a defensive touchdown to do it.
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
by these3words on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd take that win
On a defensive score. Or fluke score. Seattle’s not givng back their SD win which required two KO returns for TD. Saints don’t have to apologize for getting lucky as all hell last Monday night.
But I get your point. KC is improved over last season, especially thanks to their two coordinators and four rookies getting lots of PT.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
49ers-Falcons
Eric Davis made a good point after the press conference: the 49ers generally get up for accepted good teams (Colts, Vikings, Cards last year; Saints this year). Wouldn’t be surprised to see the 49ers hang with the Falcons. Doesn’t mean they’re getting better, but wouldn’t be shocked by it.
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the dynamic sets up well for us...
The change at OC will give a boost to the offense, the defense will rebound after a lackluster showing, and Atlanta will have a let down after their big win against NO.
Circumstance will conspire and I think we’ll win a close one.
by SalmonAndMashedPotatoes on Sep 27, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
We are toast. Let's not be blind here guys.
What has Atlanta shown to say they will lose and what have we shown to say we will win? Let’s play the odds here, I’m sick of hoping. I hope every Sunday that we will catch a break, and win a game, but it’s not likely. To beat ATL, we are going to probably need a Defensive TD, and a special teams TD. Good thing I have Niners Defense in Fantasy.
Good Move
1st, releasing Raye is an obvious scapegoat, but a much needed change. Singletary is ultimately at fault for being so stubborn to run this type of offense. Singletary. Hopefully singletary gives the new OC a greenlight to start throwing the ball around and stop tryin to overpower team when we are the ones getting knocked around.
2nd, Alex smith needs to step the F up. No matter how much blame we give to the coaches.. man alex smith is not lookin good and looks like a 3rd string QB.. if he doesn’t show improvement in the next few games.. then ride him out til the end of the season or bench him.
3rd, I like Takeo spikes and michael lewis, but each were getting burned on D. Spikes is lookin slow and old but replaceable with a good linebackin core, but i’m extremely skeptical about smith or mays at this point…
I hope Mays gets better fast.
"Imagine how many banners we would have if I was GM..." - Drew Remenda
Thanks for the Memories Nabby.
Why?
Reggie Smith is good.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
More Please
Can I get some more info like a link or something about the report from Jason La Caforna on benching Takeo and Lewis?
Link
Here’s a link to his twitter comment.
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If it's true about Spike's and Lewis , it's because the Cheif's ...
… showed our lack of speed on the Defense … Norris and Rachal are next …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Is it me or does it feel like we have( DRAMA ) every week ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
This has been some good drama
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The Balmer and Coffee stuff was odd but not dramatic
And in the case of Balmer quite useful.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Eh, it was drama.
Dude randomly retires, and guy who can’t play because he sucks complains about not being able to play.
And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.
by James Brady on Sep 27, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I never see stuff like that as dramatic. Balmer was gone before he could become a distraction. Coffee was uniquely odd, especially retiring to go into ministry, but he’d only been here one year so I didn’t have any fan connection to him. I’ll really only remember him going to the sideline in the ATL game assuming we had scored a TD.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Vernon Davis
He’s talking on CSN (channel 40) at his locker). He was surprised to hear Coach Raye was gone but he’s gonna support Mike Johnson. He’s interacted with him and really likes him (he’s “awesome”) and different from Jimmy Raye (creative).
I want to get Gore's take on this...
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
We already know Alex is happy with the move
I don’t know how Gore feels.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Only gonna get worse for Gore , when they demote Norris ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Sometimes it's hard for people to see the benefit of a breakup
Until it happens.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Yup , it's the lack of nooky that really kick's suck's ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
that really suck's ... i mean ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
spurred you are right on with that.
Norris is like the high school sweet heart of Gore. He hasn’t quite realized they are going in different directions. Gore is off to college and doing well, whereas Norris is getting into drugs and about to get fired from Walmart. Once it’s over, he will be happy, but he can’t see anything other than what he has nwo.
by hudd07 on Sep 27, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
“We already know Alex is happy with the move” – We do? I must have missed something when I was hiding in shame after the game.
Love that VD used the word creativity more than once
And said that MJ is more likely to take chances. Sad that throwing up the field and using your WRs is considered taking a chance.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
We should , he has unleashed talent ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
I hang off his every word
…and why don’t you?
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Rachal/Snyder post
Since there’s so many potential changes that could happen in the coming days I’ve decided to just take things one at a time. This first post is for discussion about Rachal and Snyder and who should start at right guard. I’d say use this link below primarily for that discussion although I realize some other areas will seep in, but try and keep the OC discussion in this current thread if at all possible.
Happy about the move to fire Raye,
but bracing for the next round of excuses for Alex’s upcoming struggles.
Haha. Well, I’ve been one to use the diff coordinator excuse for Smith, but that certainly won’t be in my terminology this year (or, to honor Jimmy Raye’s departure, I’ll use his terminology: That will not be a “mechanism” to excuse Alex).
If he fails, I’ll see it for what it is on the field. He likes MJ, and this is the same system, so unless Johnson turns out to be another failure at OC (like calling two dive plays in a row when down by 21 points), Smith should still be measured and judged in the same manner as with Raye at OC.
Don’t know if you see it how I do, but I think yesterday his failures were from a combination of bad play calling and terrible offensive line play. He missed on a lot of throws, but most of those cases he was feeling the pressure, and we all know he only plays as well as his line. Not excusing, just explaining how I saw it.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
Once Smith gets rattled...
It’s pretty much over as far as execution and accuracy.
FIRED! With an 'F'!
Yeah
It sucks to see that. He can be really good when things go well around him, but being able to rise above his teammate’s poor performance has never been something we have EVER seen from Smith. It makes me miss Steve Young. All things could go wrong, but the dude would just fight like a wild bull.
Nonetheless, I’m pulling for Smith. And hey, at least he can put together high pressure 2 minute drills for scores.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
God
those consecutive dive plays were when I turned the game off. That was seriously ridiculous to the point where words can’t explain it.
by mr. instigator on Sep 27, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Agree.
Alex’s playmaking ability relies heavily on the performance of his O-line and the rest of the offense for that matter. But when things go wrong, he seems to become too timid and shellshocked. I don’t think he will ever be able to pull out a victory when other things are going wrong around him.
Maybe a different playcaller will help (we don’t really have a better option at QB)… I hope so and want them both to succeed, but time will tell. And we are running out of that for this season.
Current link to the recent past
relevant experience
“In 2003, Interim Head Coach Wade Phillips asked Johnson to call the Falcons offensive plays for the final two games of the season. In those two contests, Vick compiled his second-highest quarterback rankings of the year (119.2 at Tampa Bay, 12/20/03, and 93.0 vs. Jacksonville, 12/28/03). "
-M. Johnson Bio page 49ers.com
Doesn't appear to be the case
Hostler never coached in Atlanta.
by David Fucillo on Sep 27, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Forget it..
Hostler wound up in BAL after with a 6 degree separation of Jimmy Raye.
FIRED! With an 'F'!
not going to believe this but...
i just looked at their bios. there’s 0 degrees of separation between hostler and raye.
from hostler’s bio on the ravens’ site:
2000: (with Kansas City) 2000: Launched NFL coaching career as an offensive assistant/quality control.
from raye’s wiki:
Raye has served as an NFL offensive coordinator for 11 seasons and on six separate occasions.
….
Kansas City Chiefs (1998-2000)
raye mentored hostler!!!!! that explains everything.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I recall they beat Tampa Bay who were the defending SB champs trying to make the playoffs as a WC. It was thought that the win earned Phillips a great shot at being the HC. Can’t recall the Jax winner.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Great, while I'm on board with this hire, as anything is better than Raye
Let’s not count our chickens yet. Our rookie HC who knows nothing about offense, just hired a rookie OC with 2 games of experience. I’m hoping for the best, but cautiously optimistic.
Minus Raye
How much better off will the Niners be? We have the same playbook, the same philosophy, and one fewer coach, so the guy who has been focusing on developing the quarterbacks will now have greatly expanded responsibilities. Should we assume that having a different guy call plays will turn a poor-performing team into a winner?
Mediocrity is the message--McCloughan
Think'n it can't get much worse ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
Desperation is obvious within the organization
I would think that with Mike Johnson comes the understanding that we will shake things up not only with regards to specific play calling but also our offensive preparation and overarching philosophy.
by mr. instigator on Sep 27, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully Sing lets him open it up and use our playmakers.
Jimmy Raye es until!!! Mandanlo al demonio.
by 49erSalvatrucha on Sep 27, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
top 5 things to look for...
if the switch is going to make a massive difference as opposed to just a minor one:
(1) you see alex smith in the shotgun more
(2) you see receivers catching the ball in space rather than having a defender right on top of them when they catch the ball
(3) you see VD and crabs actually getting open because of #2 above
(4) you see alot more runs off tackle and on the edge
(5) you see fewer play calls that don’t make sense from a strategic perspective. for example, you only see a screen pass when the other team is blitzing a lot. which is the opposite of raye’s play-calling. he called screens when the defense was only rushing 3 or 4 men. that made no sense.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Sep 27, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
And more Westbrook.
I think we will use VD more all over the field. Who says he can only catch in the middle of the field? If the defense took away the middle of the field, they took away VD. Why couldn’t he be split out, on a DB, and run ANY route but one to middle of field.
Hopefully...
Johnson starts spreading our offense out, we need to play to our strengths. So what if we oporate out of the shotgun? If Smith and hit WR’s down field, that will open up holes for Gore… shotgun or not.
"We've set out to win the division. We're going to win the division, I promise you. Remember me when we do." - Mike Singletary
(Support Alex Smith)
by return2greatness on Sep 27, 2010 2:32 PM PDT reply actions
Oh
And why not start using Kyle Williams in 4 WR sets? or run a few screens for him, crabs as well. Crabtree’s money play in college was the bubble screen… why not run that for him here?
"We've set out to win the division. We're going to win the division, I promise you. Remember me when we do." - Mike Singletary
(Support Alex Smith)
by return2greatness on Sep 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT reply actions
Well if we start running screen's and the other team's running screen's....
… Our Defense is going to have Screenmare’s in their sleep , if they don’t already … i know i do …!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
We don't run 4 WR sets
And Williams JUST got back after missing a lot of time. Let’s let him work his way into offense first. As for Crabs, I’m shocked we havn’t ran more of what made us pick him with 10th pick. Smith got drafted #1 for specific reasons, let’s play to those strengths and that offense more. Crabs same thing.
Can but I think it will be few and far between.
Listen, let’s just hope we see some 3 WR sets for once. Let’s take it one step at a time.
A couple of things...
from a Niner fan from AZ:
1. Every time a team struggles, the coaches are always to be blamed. Singletary will be fired if he doesn’t win at least nine games this year. That’s going to be tough, but not impossible.
2. When I asked, “Why not Reggie Smith” a couple of seasons ago, some of you laughed.
3. Where are all those people who were pretty much anointing Goldson as a superstar?
4. Why not start Mays at SS and Smith at FS?
Just some humble things I wanted to point out.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
And, oh, by the way...
next year, hopefully the 49ers could be lucky to draft Andrew of Stanford or lock up Jake from Washington.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Sep 27, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
People probably laughed because....
….a couple seasons ago Reggie Smith wasn’t ready. A lot happens in 3 years. Just because you wanted him 3 years ago, and he starts this year, doesn’t mean he was ready then.
Not wanted...
thought.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Sep 28, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Rather...
asked.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Sep 28, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
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