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Well, how about that? Singletary pulled a fast one on us, and coincidentally, a fast one on ex-offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye. Comparitively, it probably wasn't all that hard to pull a fast one on Raye, defenses have been doing it to him for decades. Not a hard thing to do. Either way, the change has been made, and now the 49ers are looking forward to the Atlanta Falcons with a new coordinator. Not new to the team, though, it's Mike Johnson, promoted from the quarterbacks coach position. I'm not entirely sure what sort of differences we'll see on game day. Jimmy Raye was a proven commodity. He wasn't proven to be good, but he was at the very least, proven. We knew what to expect. With Johnson, I don't know what to expect. Most we can do at this point is hope. Go Niners.

As stated, the 49ers fired offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye, and elevated quarterbacks coach Mike Johnson. (SBNationBayArea.com)

Singletary explains why he made the decision to fire Raye. The term "explain," is used very loosely at this point. (Examiner.com)

Is Mike Singletary on the hot seat as of right now? I'm not subscribing to that line of thought. I've spoke to a lot of people who feel that such a thought is premature. I don't know how I feel about it personally, but objectively, I feel it's far too early to make such accusations, along with, again, people I've talked to around the league. (Yahoo.com)

Star-divide

I'm kind of surprised by the optimism surrounding the move. I suppose it's just relief more than anything. (PressDemocrat.com)

Was it the right move to make? I think it's a bit early to ask such a question, so I won't offer any of my rather valuable insight. Yeah, I said it. (SFGate.com)

QB Alex Smith says that Jimmy Raye shouldn't get all of the blame. I like that there's accountability, and I like that Smith apparently knows what all is going on. (SacBee.com)

The decision to fire Raye was Singletary's decision and his alone. I was hearing the same thing yesterday. Was he pushed? I doubt it. (MercuryNews.com)

It's no surprise that Jimmy Raye didn't improve the 49ers offense. Hindsight is 20/20. (Yahoo.com)

The biggest challenge that Mike Johnson will face is the challenge of getting the playmakers involved better than Raye did, which doesn't sound too hard. (SacBee.com)

I suppose the firing exudes desperation on the 49ers part, but it can't be avoided. I don't like the whole "they're just reacting," aspect of it. Three weeks of mostly awful playcalling from Raye. He should be gone. (ESPN.com)

Yesterday On Niners Nation

Golden Nuggets: Do I really have to write about this team right now? (Ninjames)
What "Changes"Could 49ers Coach Mike Singletary Be Considering? (Fooch)
Jimmy Raye out as 49ers offensive coordinator (Ninjames)
49ers QB Alex Smith Hostage Video? (Fooch)
Mike Singletary Morning After Press Conference: Jimmy Raye Edition (Fooch)
49ers Offensive Decisions: Chilo Rachal or Adam Snyder (Fooch)
49ers OC Mike Johnson And RB Brian Westbrook: A Match Made In Heaven? (Fooch)
49ers Coach Mike Singletary Press Conference Transcript (Fooch)
49ers WR Josh Morgan Knee Injury Not Believed To Be Serious (Fooch)
Bill Polian Says 18-Game Season Is Done Deal (Fooch)

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hmm..

Jimmy Raye was just too calm and boring and it showed on the field just calm and boring plays “in a sense”.

I think if Alex Smith was his own OC he would do better than how he did with Raye’s play calling.

I was never too confident in Raye from the beginning, but I’m always confident when it comes to the Niners so I had to accept it for what it was.

I didn’t think he would get fired by the end of week 3 but hey better now than never.

At least Raye will have time for himself and be able to go back to the nursing home we picked him up from ;).

by StevenC on Sep 28, 2010 3:18 AM PDT reply actions  

From the reports yesterday

about Johnson it seems that he’s a better fit for the players in our current offense than Raye was.

I think what many of us haven’t focused on enough is the fact that the plan was for Johnson to take over the offense eventually anyway. Perhaps the continuity of Raye this year would have segued into Johnson next year, but Raye’s incompetence just sped up the process.

Another fact I read about Johnson is that he likes to “run up the score” against opponents and did so as play-caller with the Falcons for two games when given the opportunity.

Killer. Instinct.

by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 28, 2010 5:31 AM PDT reply actions  

final word on Raye
He wasn’t proven to be good, but he was at the very least, proven.

Indeed. In his 12 years as OC, Raye has basically mismanaged every offensive system he has been in. The one and only exception is KC, where he has worked 3 years and did ok. In all other places (Rams, Bucs, Patriots, Redskins, Jets, 49ers) he has brought down the offensive performance to the bottom ranks of the league after one or two seasons. Speaking about total offensive yardage, under Rays control the Rams have dropped from 6th place to 21st, the Bucs from 10th to 27th, the Patriots from 8th to 26th, the Redskins from 11th to 28th, the Jets from 19th to 31st and the 49ers from 23rd to 27th. To sum it up, Raye-run offenses generally end up in the cellar.

numbers taken from here

9er fan from berlin – berlin is in germany – no native speaker – mistakes may occur

by ezoo on Sep 28, 2010 5:46 AM PDT reply actions  

I have noticed the same thing

When looking at his past performances, I wasn’t thinking guru. Statistically speaking, he has shown to have done a poor job. I just don’t see how bringing in the last generations coaches have done well for anybody. Coaches are like players. You need to develop them and having them grown in your own system is best as it reflects your philosophies, instead of getting guns-for-hire

by mcwagner on Sep 28, 2010 6:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know what's sad , is when they show the highlight's of the week ...

… Two were against our Defense …So the problem with the Offense may or may not have been resolved , but what about the Defense , what’s going to happen to improve that , and why hasn’t there been more talk on that front , Three game’s average 28 point’s a game doesn’t sit well with me …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Sep 28, 2010 7:07 AM PDT reply actions  

You schwacked that target

We are sucking on both sides. Our secondary is bunk. I think Nate Clements was the most overrated corner. I really liked Bly. He wasn’t fast, but he was always in the right place. It hurts to see Seattle make so many personnel changes and have success (some, so far).

Looking to put San Fran*six-o* here some time soon!

by dartdart on Sep 28, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am sorry but every time O see a negative post about Clements I must chime in.

Clements has easily been our best DB. He has been the best corner this year, easily. But I have to agree about Bly. He’s gone though….on to the next.

bmcrae83@yahoo.com is definitely Scot mcBooFoo

by rlott#42 on Sep 28, 2010 7:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yup , agreed on both , even though Clements has been hung out to dry at time's ...

… from our lack of pressure upfront …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Sep 28, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

He got abused vs. Seattle. Clements is not a #1 cover guy, though he does play the run very well from the corner position.

Tinman

by Tinman17 on Sep 28, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

No he didn't

he made one mistake there when he tried to jump another route to get another INT but he’s been solid every game so far

Fire Jimmy Raye

by smileyman on Sep 28, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

ive seen more creative high school playcalling........

raye was the worst oc i have ever seen

joe montana in the house bitch!!! oh wait that was peter griffin.......

by ninerfan1964 on Sep 28, 2010 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

The yahoo reference

Platinum

bmcrae83@yahoo.com is definitely Scot mcBooFoo

by rlott#42 on Sep 28, 2010 8:07 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

+1

Can u c coach sing's vision? I do!......We all know PATRICK WILLIS is our future!
May 12 2010 comment of the day award winner on the nuggets!

by DreZ on Sep 28, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Third and Three

Flea Flicker? Really?

Should have been fired right there….

by Charles W on Sep 28, 2010 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

I know

early in the game he’d do what everyone expected, what they knew was coming…then later, when it was plain to see what needed to be done…he’d get “creative”.

Again, I really think his game plan was “try this and see if it works, then if it doesn’t, start calling plays in panic-mode until something works”

I will be at the Atlanta game 10/3/10 so holla if you are going.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Sep 28, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Singletary on Murph & Mac

seemed almost contrite.

Among the interesting things he said were: Raye’s firing was his decision and he didn’t consult Jed York. He told Solari that he wasn’t getting the OC job (surprised he was even in the running). Wanted to “use all the players we have”, which played a large part in his promotion of Johnson.

Most importantly, said that the decision wasn’t based on impulse, but had been reflected upon for a while prior.

by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 28, 2010 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

At least with Johnson

teams won’t be able to, at least at first, call out every single play just as we’re about to run them. I realize it will be basically the same playbook at first, but the predictability should decrease significantly

by sanfranfanmdk on Sep 28, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

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