NFC West roster moves/NFL roster move open thread
by smileyman on Sep 4, 2010 12:00 PM PDT
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PrintSome big news coming out of our rivals. We've known that Seattle WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh has been on the trading block for some time. Today the team announced that they were cutting him. I find this move mind-boggling. Sure he might not be happy with a reduced role but the team gave him $15 million guaranteed in March of '09. Last year he had 79 receptions for 911 yards, and this with an iffy QB situation.
From Chris Mortensen's twitter feed:
Filed to ESPN on another expected move: TJ Houshmanzadeh has been cut
I have to wonder if this is a move to get Vincent Jackson. T.J. was due to make $7 million this year, which would go a long way to making VJ happy.
Over in Phoenix the Cardinals have reportedly informed Matt Leinart that he'll be cut today and that Max Hall will be the new backup QB (not bad for an undrafted free agent). The Leinart move isn't surprising either but I would've at least held on to him for the first few weeks of the season to see what happens in the NFL and hope to get something out of the deal.
From Schefter:
One way or another, QB Matt Leinart's time in Arizona is up. Cardinals plan to trade or release him.
Filed to ESPN: Cardinals have told Matt Leinart they will release him today. Max Hall will be No. 2 QB.
In St. Louis the Rams are expected to announce Sam Bradford as the starting QB. This isn't exactly a shocker--you don't pay a guy $50 million guaranteed to have him sit on his rear and his play during the pre-season has been excellent.
Again from Schefter's twitter feed:
Sam Bradford will be named Rams starting QB in press conference shortly.
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Consider this your roster move open thread
In other news Myron Rolle cut by the Titans. Jarvis Green cut in Denver (kind of a shocking move). Ladell Betts was cut yesterday. Willie Parker let go today in Redskin land.
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Myron Rolle was cut???
I wanted him in the draft. Like, a lot.
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You just wanted his ascott, didn’t you?
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
My guess he lands on a practice squad somewhere.
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Any guess as to why he was cut?
He seems like an absurdly high potential player. Are they deep at the position?
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I'd take him over Taylor any day of the week..
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How many times on Sundays?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
At least six.
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That is to say, until I begin to chafe.
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This is true.
Excellent analysis, Mr. Madden.
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LOL
so could go on a riff and maybe get Madden a contract selling Gold Bond but I won’t go there.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Rolle was cut?
Almost makes up for Alphonso being taken by the Lions.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be ideal.
I hope he doesn’t get picked up. I am actually really, really hoping for this.
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And
Rolle instantly increases the IQ of the practice squad….that’s not a bad thing either.
by seafood lover on Sep 4, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Rolle would be invaluable on the PS.
He is very smart, very agile. He could mimic many corners and safeties around the league.
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lmao @ Leinart in that picture
I think it’s hilarious to watch the NFC West fall apart. More wins for Niners plz k thx bye.
However, I’m impressed with Bradford. And yes, it was only preseason, but coming out of college I thought he had the look of an NFL QB all along. If he doesn’t get his ass handed to him every single down, he very well could become a pain in our necks within a few years.
Touchdown Forty Niners!
by Effage on Sep 4, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What surprised me about Bradfrod
were his understanding of the game—very mature. Also he actually has a cannon of an arm. I knwe he had a great touch, but I didn’t know he had a cannon too.
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by smileyman on Sep 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, his maturity is excellent (at least so far). I watched him several times in college and thought he delivered the ball the way NFL QBs do. You don’t see that in college too often, but he always stood out to me.
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I am not looking forward to the Rams when they get this man a supporting cast. If they can do it before their running back turns thirty, that will be a dangerous team.
Yeah. I try not to think about it. lol.
But hey, it was fun having the Rams and Niners hate each other while battling for division titles 8-9 years ago. Let’s just hope the Niners take a long-term hold of this division. This is their year to get that started.
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Totally agree...
…with you guys. On both counts. I was just saying to my friend the other day that the Rams will be better sooner than people think.
yes he has all of the above.
The only question about Bradford was if it was all a house of cards built upon him having all day to throw at Oklahoma and if it would crumble as such when that protection was gone.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
And in ST Looeey
He has 2 rooks as his tackles. Good rooks I’ll give ya but rooks.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s true. When things went wrong in protection, he didn’t seem to have very good footwork or poise. However, a lot of that can be taught.
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I thought he did a decent job of scrambling
and getting rid of the ball to avoid the sack.
I’ll be having a St. Louis Rams preview post either Monday or Tuesday.
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I’ve got your back on this wager. Can’t see it happening. Peter Carrol is going all Steve Spurrier on the Seahawks, and he’ll learn fast he can’t do that.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell?
After passing on his boy Taylor Mays for a superior prospect, cutting LenDale White weeks after trading for him, and trading recent 1st round pick Lawrence Jackson for peanuts, you still think he’s turning Seattle into USC North?
Mike Williams has earned it. That’s the only reason why he’s getting extended playing time.
Can you spot the bust?
8/31/10 - We're going to trade every starter besides Aaron Curry and Julius Jones for 4th-6th round picks
by Fearless Frog on Sep 4, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
damn you Fearless Frog, for bringing reality in response to my comments!
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
takes offense
at the point of calling Earl Thomas a Superior prospect. Better prospect I could take! LOL
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say DIFFERENT prospect
They really don’t play the same position even. Earl Thomas is almost a corner/FS hybrid. When he has speed he can make solid tackles but will get run over if somebody comes free through the middle right at him. See Ingram, Mark Jr.
Mays will never be able to cover like Thomas who some scouts said could have been amongst the top corners in the draft if that was all he did. But Mays will also be an intimidator. The guys that do that at the NFL level are so few and far between its almost like a position that only a few guys will ever touch. Butkis, Lott, Willis. Those guys hits make people think twice. That will be Mays job. If he gets the coverage aspect down he’s money.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dashon, Mays, and Bamm Bamm will get the record for most decapitations in one season
by MichaelClutchtree on Sep 4, 2010 12:06 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rumor has been going around that Leinart might end up in Seattle
Peter King seems to think so anyhow
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Is there anyone who WON’’T end up in Seattle? You’d think those guys have a 503 player roster limit. lol
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this just in
Seattle picks up Kevan Barlow, Tim Rattay, and Edgerrin James err they actually did get James didn’t they?
Barry Sims needs to look for real estate in Washington cause we know where he’s going
by mcwagner on Sep 4, 2010 12:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol. Hey man, for like 10 seconds there it looked like Barlow and Rattay were gonna be good. It was only 10 seconds, but it happened.
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i must have blinked
Because I always doubted Rattay, Barlow teased us until we needed him
by mcwagner on Sep 4, 2010 1:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If I'm Leinart
I would rather be the backup in Houston. It’s possible that Schaub gets hurt and that #2 job is not secured by Orlovsky.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It's just silly
To cut Houshmanzadeh with his fully guaranteed 7 million when there’s guys like Deion Branch sitting around. When you have to pay the guy anyway why not put the best team on the field.
I don't think Houshmanzadeh's $7 million was guaranteed
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Looks like it was
his $15 million was split up betwee ’09 and ’10
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Wow... They'd have been better off sending him over the middle
and just hanging him out to dry. Then telling the younger players if they get paid big and don’t produce that’s what happens.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Cuts
Antonio Bryant and TJH made out quite well financially. Their front offices, not so much.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
If they could land Vincent that would be a great move for that team
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No doubt.
That becomes a more dangerous team too. I’m not saying playoff worthy, but a surprise team for sure.
definately a better team
But I don’t see jackson as a great player. He’s good, but not elite at all
by mcwagner on Sep 4, 2010 1:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He would be the perfect receiver for Bradfords style of game
Jackson would go to the pro bowl for sure. Bradford could float him a perfectly placed jump ball 10 times a game.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want this to happen
I don’t want the Rams to be competitive again. Vincent Jackson is a step in that direction. I like it better when the Rams suck.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate having a doormat of a division
I hate that other teams look at the NFC West and pencil in wins on their calendar
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Jackson on Rams eliminates them from being a pencil win on the calendar. Still not a playoff team but an offense of S. Jackson, V. Jackson and Bradford can win on any given Sunday.
I agree. That’s a good trio for the Rams to build around, and again, I don’t like the thought of it one bit. Add to the fact a tackling machine on D like Laurinitis and a ball hawk at FS like Atogwe and the Rams aren’t many pieces away from playoff contending.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
lines need help, depth, Bradford unproven and soph year always hard
They need a lot of help and slow draft build is the most reliable and sustaining. But I like what I see
by mcwagner on Sep 4, 2010 1:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If they land Jackson
it’s liking have two high-first round picks to spend on offense this year
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The Chargers are only asking for 2nd round pick. Maybe I am in the minority but a #1 WR > 2nd round pick.
Seems like the hold up is Jackson doesn’t sign a multi year deal the Rams only want to give a 3rd round pick so they are insisting a condition on the trade.
I think a conditional 3rd round
is the best option for both sides
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- WR > > > > > Second Round Pick.
If the Rams are willing to throw the cash at Jackson, why doesn’t he want to sign? He doesn’t realize the potential there?
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Jackson would be a hold up. He’s a bit of knucklehead but as long as he’s putting up numbers he seems happy.
A.J. Smith cannot make decision …. maybe you saw that thread with me the Chargers fans apologists.
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is it
I mean a 2nd round pick is definitely better than having your player holding out.
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AJ smith is a jerk. Not sure how he still has his gig, oh I think it’s because the Chargers are consistently in the playoffs, but I mean seriously AJ Smith is a pure a-wipe.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Bradford would get help if Vincent can draw a double team in coverage. Opens up more hot reads and helps the rest of the receivers get open faster, alleviating some of the offensive line issues.
and Vincent Jackson also helps prevent the box from being stacked againts Steven Jackson.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
A doormat division only sucks
when the 49ers aren’t winning it. When San Francisco is wiping its feet on the doormat, I’m all for it.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Andrew, think of it this way: if the Rams or other NFCW teams are only capable of winning a game or two, it artificially inflates everyone in the division. When the Niners were competing with AZ last season you knew the Cards had automatic wins when playing STL and SEA. It’d be nice if that weren’t the case. Also, having everyone in the division capable of beating other NFC teams helps to bring those teams’ win totals down. Those are the teams we hope the Niners are battling with for playoff seeding.
I’d like to see a Rams team that is competitive every week even if they finish 6-10. The Niners can still sweep them but will have to play well to do so. That’s not a bad thing.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Competition makes it harder to win money when betting on NFL games, but I am with you guys on the overall point of a better division better prepares the 49ers for the playoffs.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, the last time I checked, the 49ers didn’t easily beat anyone in the NFC West, they’ve had to earn the victories. The Rams always play the 49ers tight in St. Louis, and the Seahawks put up a fight in Seattle (hell, they even punk the 49ers in San Francisco sometimes). Overall, I do agree with what you are saying, but my initial point is: I like the Rams better when they suck. I’ll dislike the Cardinals and Seahawks no matter what the teams records are, but when the Rams are junk, I find it easy to cheer for them in games not against the 49ers.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I hear you. But division games are often close (at least one of the annual two) regardless of records because the players/coaches know the opponent so well. The LIons play Minnesota & GB tight in Detroit even though they usually suck. Houston has never made the playoffs but Indy always struggles to win in Houston. Tampa won in NO last season. Division games aren’t supposed to be easy. And no matter how good the Niners are it is quite difficult to go 6-0 in the division. Better that the other three teams are at least capable of beating each other with some consistency while also playing non NFCW teams tough.
I hope to see STL upset AZ on opening day and be a competitive 5 to 7 win team this year just as much as hope AZ struggles while barely making it to 8 wins. I hope Seattle is competitive throughout the season but that Carroll finishes with a losing record.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
With you on that one ....
… i like it better when it’s a dawg fight until the end , i want the whole league to be affraid of this division , it makes for good football …!!
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Weren't they afraid of this team..
even when we were playing the Aints and the Falcons and the Rams?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t forget that the West had some competitive seasons when the Niners were on top, including the hyper-competitive ‘89 season where the Niners, Rams and Saints all had winning records and two of them made the NFC title game. It didn’t really become one-sided until ’94.
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The reports are conflicting. The national media doesn’t think anything is going on while the local St. Louis media is claiming sources saying there is an interest.
I'd trust the local media
national media doesn’t care about NFC West
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Housh
Since he has 7 million in his pocket anyway does that mean he could sign a one year contract for a little cheaper?
Crabtree
Morgan
Houshmanzadeh??
Or are we all very confident in our current reciver group?
by SacTown Niner Fan on Sep 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions
Not a fan of his attitude. I could see him signing with Oakland to stay out west. Maybe San Diego if they trade Jackson.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I always welcome talent to the Niners to better the team. So that means no houshmanzadeh
by mcwagner on Sep 4, 2010 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Irritating, and yet somewhat satisfying
This is just reinforcing the NFL stigma that the NFC West is a crud division stuck in the funk – aside from the 49ers and the chance the Rams may finally have a QB to build around, I would tend to agree with that sentiment. But it goes without saying once again – this is our team’s division to take (by storm, preferably) this year.
I just don’t want to see the Niners coast into the postseason because the roadkill of our division gave us 6 easy wins, and then not winning much beyond that (guarantees an early exit in the playoffs, imho). Instead, I hope for at least a few hard fought games by our mortal division enemies, which could (in turn) be something to build on with beating more strong, out-of-division teams…
One more week.
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by Ranger10 on Sep 4, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How about..
the 49ers dominate the world, go 16-0, win the Superbowl, become the first 19-0 team and then repeat in 2011?
Hey, I can dream, dammit.
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23-0 sounds good
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rest and relax
Kill them in the first half and rest starters. A poor division didn’t stop Arizona from getting to the SB
by mcwagner on Sep 4, 2010 1:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Perfect..
Then they can repeat later on down the line and go 21-0 when the schedule expands to 18 games
by SacTown Niner Fan on Sep 4, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
Broncos traded Alphonso Smith to Detroit
who desperately need the secondary help.
Detroit is looking more and more like a 7 or 8 win team this year. Very impressed with their front office this year.
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I’m saying six wins for the Lions, and Vegas has the Over/Under at 5.5. The team finally appears to be getting over the Millen Hump (which was a very high, steep hump to climb). Stafford has some weapons, and Jahvid Best looks awesome, I just hope the OL doesn’t get both players killed. The secondary definitely improves with the addition of Smith, and I really like Louis Delmas roaming center field.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Their O-line looked good in pass protection
not so much in run, but they’ve got Best to help make up for that.
I wonder if Bly will be starting in Detroit this year.
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College football is silly.
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Did you just “ZING!” yourself?
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It is silly
Is there even a match up worth watching this weekend?
National Powerhouse Hyped Championship Caliber Team vs Division III thanks for the check or we were canceling football this season.
What do you mean not a matchup to watch?
What about the…ummm ..or the….ummm….puts up a finger ..or..umm..ok..it’s silly
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
The good game is Monday night
Boise and Va Tech
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
OSU/TCU is pretty good right now.
But yeah, I really hope Boise goes out and throttles Va Tech.
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I watch very little college football...
They don’t normally televise minor league baseball games, so why college football?
That's irrelevant to my argument...
There are probably more people living in any community with a minor league baseball team than are attending any given college. The fan interest in the college game seems disproportionate, given the similar quality and function of the product.
More people living in a community yes
but what is the tie to the minor league team? If you take the guys that went to that school and the people that are related to the person that went to that school and the people that move to that area and want to watch some college football then you have a much larger amount. Not to mention the people that went to that school and moved to some other area and can’t watch the game. We have a minor league here I don’t pay much attention to it. I pay some attention to the colleges around here and some to the high school teams. ANd by teams I mean Football teams.
You may consider this irrelevant to your argument as well but what is of interest is the fact that baseball is no longer the kingpin it once was and in general does not gather the crowd it once did.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 5, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would people attending a college be any more interested...
in the football program than a minor league baseball franchise? The football team has about the same level of connection to the college experience as the minor league baseball team does. Most of the people participating in football aren’t really students as most people understand that concept. They’re minor-league football players that the university is ripping off by not paying accordingly. Anybody remember what Jerry Rice’s major was? I heard it was brick laying.
Nope
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I was surprised by Leinart being cut
Not because of his play, but because that is a sign that they (the Cards) are mailing in the season. Sure, Peyton Mannings backup is the most irrelevant person in the NFL, but Derek Anderson is no Peyton Manning. Heck, I’m not sure if he’s even Matt Leinart (lol).
by remembertheCATCH on Sep 4, 2010 1:19 PM PDT reply actions
I think they're grooming Hall for the starting job
He’ll be much better than people think
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maybe, but that is a lot of stock to put into an undrafted player.
by remembertheCATCH on Sep 4, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude looked sharp in the pre-season
very, very sharp
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the last time Derek Anderson had any type of OLine and WR help, he threw for 29 TDs. Larry Fitzgerald is twice the player Braylon Edwards is, and the Cardinals have much better complementary receivers than the Browns did the year Anderson went berserk. I’m not saying it’s likely to happen again, but if he gets time in the pocket, he’s got good targets to throw to.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t recall but didn’t the Browns have a last place schedule in addition to surprising people that season? It’s going to be tough now that coaches have plenty of film on Anderson and thus know his weaknesses, plus a team playing a first place schedule with expectations.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
The Cardinals have a first place schedule, but something like the 30th ranked in terms of strength of schedule (thanks to the lack of wins coming from the NFC West opponents).
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 4, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Never a chance for Leinart in AZ
only now are reports coming out about Leinart’s attitude and it seems the bandwagon effect is in full-swing to bash Leinart’s current reputation (Sando, Lombardi, Schefter, etc). From the sounds of things, Whisenhunt is a fan of self-made men and underdog attitudes and Leinart in no way fits that bill.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Stupid Question
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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
3rd option
on photobucket?
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Just click the picture in the reply box, the icon furthest to the right. Put in the direct link to the image that ends in .jpg, .png, .gif etc. You can use photobucket, imageshack, imgcake, etc for uploading.
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Unless that's sarcasm
we’d be replacing “upside” with “upstart”.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 4, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate Davis doesn't have enough upside to warrant keeping somebody that is too dumb and lazy to learn his protections
over the course of 2 seasons.
At least Leinart could learn the playbook and play Shaun Hill checkdown ball coming off the bench.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Been toying with the idea
that Singletary’s criticisms of Davis serve as motivational techniques. He and everyone else see the potential that Davis isn’t yet living up to, but he’s been kept on for 2 years now as a 3rd stringer and is being mentally massaged into the playbook.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 4, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
plus
49ers don’t need Leinart to play check down ball; they could have just kept Shaun Hill.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 4, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Leinart CAN do more than check down ball
He just hasn’t learned yet. Shaun Hill didn’t have the arm to do anything more than checkdown ball.
Whether Leinart ever will is another question, but he can play the Shaun Hill game with better natural abilities.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem with Leinart is...
It can really slow down their learning curves and make them prematurely arrogant when they start their professional football careers right out of high school. No college coaching, no learning at the 2nd level. Yes, this is a USC slam; thank you once again, Coach Carroll.
by seafood lover on Sep 4, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What happens when 2 years from now we change Co-Ordinators again?
He’s useless for another 3-4 years.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
good point
but it also seems like Leinart was mediocre in AZ in a system he’s had for longer than Davis has. Just not enough upside to have Leinart join the 49ers, I think.
by MondayMorningMontana on Sep 4, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That is another fair point
I just have a feeling Leinart will catch on somewhere and be a serviceable backup much the way Carr is.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What about him having to game plan ....
… on a weekly basis , new team , new scheme , new play’s , O’ Boy " information overload , he would have the play’s on both arm’s and thigh’s and a chalk board on the back of the center …!!
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Remember when we went over to Revenge Of The Birds?
They insisted that they had just as much reason to be excited for Leinart as we could be for Smith. Hm.
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Well, I broke up with my girl recently.
Should I give them a ring?
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Thats the only way
they’re getting a ring.
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rec'd
Unofficial adoptive father of Grant. That sounds unbelievably awkward.
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what?
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by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Raiders cut Jay Richardson?
If there was a position to pull players cut from the Raiders from, it would be the d-line. I’m a little bit intrigued, honestly.
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Ok but what's the diff...
What actually does JR have over our guys? Not lauding our guys as much as questioning the value of JR. He’s probably better than Evans but that doesnt mean much
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He could push Sopoaga for the job at left end. Is probably better than Ray McDonald minus those nagging injuries.
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Hmm..ok then..y
you convinced me. Go get him. Why were you so slow on Alphonso Smith? LOL We lost him to Detroit.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I want a different backup DE than Demtric Evans
Jay Richardson is a big man who had 3 sacks with no starts last season. Let’s give him a try.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
With the talk about DEs
what about Jarvis Green? He could start over Sopoaga easily and has plenty of experience in a 3-4. However, I question why the Broncos cut him when they signed him this off-season to a four year contract.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd still rather have Richardson.
Really unsure why he was cut, though.
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Green seems like a long shot
since he might return to NE with this weakness at DE right now. However, I would like to grab a DE who can take Evans spot and possibly push to be the starter.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He might be worth picking up
I’d rather have him than Evans
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I think we all agree..
anyone but Evans..and to a degree any of those over Soap
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Maiocco saying that the team
lets Mitchell walk and signs Tukuafu to the practice squad instead.
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Really?
Why not both. I really like what Mitchell was showing in pre-season.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd have to agree on that.
Take both of them. What do we have filling up to 8?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd take them both
but Maiocco has some pretty good sources in the team.
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Chiefs sound like they are in the running for Matt Leinart
Todd Haley was the OC for Leinart, so there is some connection. Leinart could backup Cassel and the way the Chiefs have Cassel’s contract set up, they do not take a big hit cutting him after this season. Don’t think Haley can actually make anything out of Leinart because not much difference between Leinart and Cassel.
I think Cassel is much, much better than Leinart.
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The Irony is
how “well” Pete is at picking NFL caliber QB’s
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know
Leinart could become better than Cassel. Cassel is better right now, but he really needs to step up his game if he wants to continue in KC.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Leinart can become anything anymore.
There was a slight bit of hope before. Not anymore. He has played progressively worse every time he’s had the chance to play.
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I think he could with the right coach
Whisenhunt seemed like he was set on not liking Leinart since he got there. If Haley thinks he’s worth picking up after seeing him in AZ, that must mean he saw something in Leinart, right?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
It's easy to see something if you really want to see it.
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Sure he can
He can become a waterboy!
… Though people will have to settle for too little water because he always dumps it off…
Touchdown Forty Niners!
That's the biggest "cut" of the day..
for Seattle.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe it was because of the Stacy Andrews trade
doesn’t Gibbs like smaller, athletic O-linemen?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You need that type of O-line for a zone blocking scheme
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The only thing Seahawk fans have liked about Pete Carroll.
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Uncalled for.
It’s reported Alex Gibbs is concerned about his health. There’s always a possibility he comes back, hopefully. You forget we had Solari for awhile, how was our OLine? Terrible. Good luck with him.
by PhoneHomeET29 on Sep 4, 2010 7:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No we didn't forget.
We think its funny you let him go and blamed your terrible o-line on your coach instead of your terrible players. Now you’re killing his replacement. You people are horrible.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
We went 4-0 in the preseason last year.
I’m just saying. Everything can look great, then a rash of injuries happens on your o-line. Then oh shit, your screwed. It can happen to any team, that’s why you shouldn’t get so hyped. Our oline looked good preseason then BAM! Hell broke loose.
by PhoneHomeET29 on Sep 4, 2010 9:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Didn’t we go 3-1 last year, losing to the chargers?
by See Jay on Sep 4, 2010 10:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's the difference.
The Seahawks have little talent, the Niners do.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
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The New and Improved Bay Area Connections:
Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey
by Hoopers Judge on Sep 5, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes,
but you also have Jimmy Raye calling plays. That’s as bad as having little talent.
by Mind of no mind on Sep 5, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Geez. Half the division is in total meltdown mode.
The Niners are the only stable team at the moment.
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by Hoopers Judge on Sep 4, 2010 3:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yaaaaaaaaay
REVEL IN THE CHAOS DRINK IT INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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by James Brady on Sep 4, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know
the Rams might make a move for Vincent Jackson and would give Bradford quite the weapon. I also find it funny that the two teams fighting for Jackson are St. Louis and Seattle. I’m not sure who I would rather have Jackson.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
If Seattle did that
could we make jokes about how they don’t like short people which is why they got rid of Josh Wilson.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather Seattle have him
I think Bradford has the potential to be a star. In Seattle he’ll have Hasselbeck or Whitehurst throwing to him.
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Good point
The Rams may be a weaker team right now, but they could become dangerous pretty quickly.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Seahawks pick up stacey andrews from the Eagles
this is a good pickup for them
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Do they say the details yet?
Also, didn’t Andrews have a rather hefty contract?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that's why he was on the block
He was told that he would need to renegotiate his contract or be traded-that was some months back
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Wonder if there's a relation...
between Andrews and Gibbs leaving.
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Sep 4, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha
I just said something about that above.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
How about available CBs?
49ers are probably looking for a dime CB while James is out. I haven’t seen a lot of transactions, but of the few I’ve seen, the names that caught my attention are Jacques Reeves, Macho Harris, and Chevis Jackson. Do you like any of those guys? Are there any others you guys have heard?
None of those guys are at all appealing to me.
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Reeves is good and experienced
however, he’s been a starter for the Texans, which means another team might be willing to give him more playing time than we would. Also, he may want more money than the others.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve heard of Macho Harris but don’t like him. The 49ers are holding onto Brock which is indication of the kind of CB talent available on the market.
We are going to restructure, sign and then trade Brock, Clements and Manny Lawson
For Revis.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow
Jags FS Reggie Nelson traded to the Bengals for CB David Jones.
I knew Nelson has not been spectacular, but I did not know they were willing to part ways with him.
Maiocco reporting that Brit Miller will not be signed to the PS should he clear waivers
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This is bizzare.
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When Maiocco is reporting "news"
i tend to believe him. This report and the earlier one came from his sources inside the organization
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I believe him, yes.
Bizarre in that he was… I don’t know. He feels like a 49er, which is an odd thing to say. So I guess they prefer Caulcrick. Does Sing hate special teams, or what?
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I don't know
it’s all very strange to me. I know Caulcrick played on special teams in the pre-season but he didn’t stand out to me
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He was not very good there.
From where I saw it, he looked slow on ST and was basically invisible. Miller looked like he could have been a star on ST. I was impressed with Caulcrick at FB though.
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Yeah Caulcrick did a better job at FB
even though I was rooting for MIller and against Norris
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I like Smith, I think he’s starting caliber.
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I like our chances with Smith than Davis
but that is not saying much. Also, I wouldn’t mind having a mobile QB on the roster. Seems like every team has one, and I wouldn’t consider Carr to be mobile no matter how many first down jumps he makes.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Smith than Carr.
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I see Carr stuck on the roster just because of his contract
that is why I mentioned Davis. But yes, I am not a big fan of Carr either.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I was implying that it would be...
Smith > Smith > Carr, not Smith > Carr > Smith.
I think you can sort out the Smiths.
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I'm with you
somehow. We both want Smith to backup Smith.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Um you do realize Smith is a very mobile QB right?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Smith is not the level of mobility that Smith is.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Pats release ILB Burgess
35 tackles, 5 sacks in 5 games as a starter. Maybe we pick him p as a backup?
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I wouldn't mind
I like Burgess going back to when he was with the Eagles. Solid pass rusher but we kind of have that in LaBoy. So LaBoy or Burgess?
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd dump Evans in favor of Burgess
LaBoy can bring the heat on the outside
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But doesn't Burgess play OLB in a 3-4 as well?
that is why I was comparing the two
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Justib Hartwig
Hartwig was dropped by the steelers good depth for us on the o-line?
He would be but
he’ll get a starting gig somewhere. There are plenty of teams that have worst centers than him.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I have no problem with "what if" scenarios
I mean the one that I can’t decide how I stand is about signing Houshmanzadeh as the #2 WR. Good possession WR who would put Morgan in the slot and really bolster the WR corps, but man, I don’t like Housh’s mouth.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
personally iwas hoping wed sign TO and let morgan and Crabs learn from him Hes an ass but a hell of a wr
TO may have been too much for the young 49ers
I wouldn’t want TO to undermine Alex Smith. However, I think Bengals game will be more enjoyable to watch with Chad and TO.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I honestly don't think Housh would be any good for us.
I just don’t see it anymore.
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Skill-wise, I think Housh can give any team one more solid year
I would want him as a one year stopgap but nothing more. I just don’t have much trust in Ginn and would like another reliable WR. But Housh will want the ball, and I don’t want to hear about those problems.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm comfortable with our receivers.
I think they are very well suited for our offense, especially with Davis, Walker and Westbrook being receiving options at other positions.
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You're only saying that because Zeigler made the roster
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah.
I’m excited he’s on, but I already said I’d take someone like MRob over Zeigler because I care about the team more than the individual.
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I understand the importance of special teams
but they got rid of a lot of special teams guys, which makes me wonder what they are doing for it. So I’m going to be patient and see what changes on special teams. If we do well, then all is forgiven.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
We're cutting everyone.
How can it be good?
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That's why I'm waiting for them to prove it
Let them prove that this team will not miss a beat without those guys before I say that they made a mistake.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Zeigler has a lot more potential than MRob
A LOT more. A Special Teams star is a guy that generally isn’t good enough anywhere else to be on a team. If we can get a team with 53 guys that are solid players on the field we’ll end up with a better STs unit anyways because we’ll have better players at more positions, though our best pure ST guys may be gone.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell, at this point Morgan is replaceable if he gets hurt
I bet you Morgan would be damn good on ST.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter if he isn't good enough in other areas.
Literally not one bit. Teams have a special teamer. Singletary is cutting all of ours.
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We have special teamers
They are PR/KR/LS/P/K
Thats 5 guys – only 2 of whom provide anything anywhere else. Are you saying if we took Bowman and put him out on STs he wouldn’t be better than Robinson? Don’t kid yourself, STers are guys that can’t make the roster except for the fact that STs are more dangerous than normal play and coaches don’t wanna risk real players. I have a feeling Sing bucks that trend this year.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
You know what I mean.
It’s pretty insulting that you’d insinuate that I don’t know that our punters, kickers and the like aren’t special teamers.
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Its not insulting to point out fact. Why does everybody have to follow some unseen system where there are 3 -5 extra spots
for guys that can’t make the roster doing anything on a regular basis?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions
M-Rob
He was the example made this season to the players who have high upside and poor work ethic. The example being even if you are a pro bowl caliber STer and a great locker room influence if you don’t bring all that you have and add multiple dimensions to your game your out.
This all has something to do with Sing saying Nate Davis may not had made the final 53!
I don't think that Housh
provides enough of an upgrade over Morgan to justify the cost.
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I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEE the idea of getting Revis!!!! Reminds me of ’94 when we got Deion to put us over the top
I'm not gonna lie, I just like him because of those commercials where he yells in the ladies face.
Pam liked my old sig better.
For Revis: 1st and one other player the Jets name
Not Willis, Crabtree, Iupati, Gore, and Davis, but I’d put in most others. Sorry. But a shutdown corner is worth a lot to this team with an unusual level of depth right now. They’ll draft CB first next year who won’t be as good.
Dre Bly released by Lions.
I really don’t like that guy.
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Ouch our secondary was really THAT bad
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Sep 4, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll go ahead and mention that we didn't take Syd'quan Thompson from Cal again.
Pam liked my old sig better.
Brandon Jones
Was also released by Seattle, which is kind of confusing because that’s why most sports writers were saying Housh was out, was because of the pickup of Jones, the resurgence of Mike Williams, and the draftee Golden Tate, but Jones was cut too….
Nah, it's more about their young talent in Golden Tate and Deon Butler
Jones was not going to be a factor there either.
by ZeroOneInfinity on Sep 4, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Dre Bly
Dre bly was cut by the lions. Do we sign him and move tramaine Brock to practice squad, especially since we cut Karl paymah. Just a question?
V Hink L
by VHinklejr on Sep 4, 2010 6:00 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
BTW, Seattle only has two QBs on their roster right now
Hasselbeck and Whitehurst.
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Seattle's roster
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/9/4/1670128/seattle-seahawks-53-man-roster#storyjump
2 Fullbacks, 4 TEs !?!?, only 2 QBs?
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Whitehurst is gonna have to get a new name
now that Tebow is in the league
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Are you really surprised?
Both Leinart and Houshmansadah have lived their NFL careers on borrowed time. For Leinart, he came from the good looking, California bred stock of Pete Carroll’s “Mafia machine.” Coming off 2 trips to the National title game, a heisman trophy bid, and 3 years of some of the best HB’s in college. Out of the draft, Arizona gave him everything he asked for and more. Including time to acclimate to the nuances of the NFL. Which can be summed up by saying that the offenses are more complicated, defenses are smarter and faster, and the time shift can only be measured in nano-secs. Yet,everytime we saw news of him, it was for things OFF the field. Like training for MMA, or what new chick he was partying with. Well, that’s lovely, only if you bring it on Sundays, and he never lived up to the hype. You knew the writing was on the wall when he lost his job to a journeyman, former shelsf stocker who couldn’t beat out a very young Eli Manning. And then the coup de’ grace, was being beaten out by Derrick Anderson. A former player with the BROWNS F.G.S.!
As for Howsyourmama….he benefited from a wide open, deep throwing offense that Cinci ran. Kinda like Al Davis east if you will. Where he only had to take on the opponents second teir db’s. And playing with a true 1 in a basket case like Johnson ( I refuse to call that boy OchoCinco), to take away all the double teams. But, his fate was sealed when after an injury, Seattle broke the bank to bring him to the Pacific Northwest. I think it was proven very well when Chad was injured and T.J. couldn’t move the chains on his own. But, Seattle was desperate, and we all know what deserate times do to a franchise. However the case may be, both men’s bank accounts and agents made out like fat cats. But, the gravytrain has passed, and the time at the station is over, I wouldn’t be surprised however, if Leinart landed a gig in SEattle where his former Don now calls home after getting out of Southern Cal with all the goods. T.J. might still get a gig going in Buffalo, or Jacksonville. 2 franchises that need ANY receiver they can get. But, beware, any team that hitches their horse to either of these wagons. The ride will be bumpier than a fall down Everestt.
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